We are selling old washing machine on FB for $130. A buyer offered $100 cash and transfer for the rest. We don't worry if he is legit but doesn't transfer. Can this be a scam and anything go wrong?
FB Buyer Offered Partial Transfer. What Can Go Wrong?
picant on 17/01/2025 - 15:02
Last edited 17/01/2025 - 15:03
Last edited 17/01/2025 - 15:03
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Would you take $100
Because that's what you'll get
either that or a last minute subtle implication for swaps for a half hearted no eye contact handy j.
Old washing machine not even worth $50
What can go wrong????
Buyer changed mind
Didnt do transfer
Realised $130 was a Rip-off!
"Sure, do the transfer now, I'll let you know when it goes in and you can bring the cash over and pick up once the payment has cleared…"
Now that makes cents. Cheers
my brother has some frankly wild stories of his interactions with buyers on marketplace/scumtree …I used to think they were all made up / slightly embellished - but actually after reading more on ozbargain I fully believe them all now. why cant people just be normal ffs.
You're dealing with the dredges of society.
IMO $130 list prices is basically a bat signal for these people to offer $100. Just price that in.
^^^ This
Once had a buyer tell me off and curse me as I refused their offer on an item. They told me that I had to accept a lesser price as no one will ever pay the asking unless I specifically write 'no offers' or similar.
They're just playing mind games, they have no shame so they'll say anything to manipulate you.
Hold strong if you've priced it right. I once listed a couch for $150 after about 10 or so time wasters eventually someone came around.
I tell them I would prefer to donate to charity or e-waste it. In a few cases, it's resulted in angry messages and a block.
I don't mind the low offers - I don't like what follows when they're not accepted.
One of the worst cases was a message from someone who asked for an item for free with some cheap excuse.
@ihfree: Selling a monitor and was offered a low price as he said he was a student, I said I was a pensioner could he give me more than I asked.
Once had a buyer tell me off and curse me as I refused their offer on an item. They told me that I had to accept a lesser price as no one will ever pay the asking unless I specifically write 'no offers' or similar.
I've had that. I take great delight in telling them I'd rather throw the item away than sell it to a low-baller. Then I block them.
"why cant people just be normal ffs."
They are the new normal…..
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You couldn't make this stuff up.
This still makes sense the way I initially it. It made me think WTF does your brother do:
How I read it:
my brother has some frankly wild stories of his interactions with buyers on marketplace/cumtree
What's the reason for a partial transfer? Is this to hold the item?
If there's a PayID transfer involved, i'm very clear in saying I won't release the item until the money has landed in my account. I wouldn't rely on screenshots, emailed/SMSed receipts, etc.
He said he got $100 cash but forgot his card. And he wants to pick the item today.
That's potentially a legit thing.
The number of people who carry cash nowadays are dwindling, and they may have part of it with cash.
The way to tell if it's a scam is to tell him he'll have to payid while you're there and have it clear.
The number of people who carry cash nowadays are dwindling, and they may have part of it with cash.
They've developed these new things they call ATMs to overcome this issue…
@jv: I actually forgot cash/card on one occasion for a item and asked if PayID was possible. The need to access cash or physical cards is rare now.
I generally leave home without my wallet unless there is a specific need.
That's potentially a legit thing.
It's also potentially "not a thing".
You'll often get them saying something similar to test the water. If you're going to accept $30 by transfer, they think you'll accept it all on transfer. Then they turn up and don't have any cash, or their "brother" has turned up instead and they don't have the money. They show you the receipt and hope you're dumb enough to accept a screenshot.
Having cash but not card? Potentially maybe, but it would be the opposite for me. I wouldn't be taking that chance.
Yeah nah. Did he forget his phone as well (because he should be able to do a near-instant Osko transfer for $30)?
I don't know about the phone. He offered a transfer but we did not discuss which one.
@picant: If he gives you the $100, give him the washer. Holding on to top-dollar for something that it's going to benefit you to get rid of is crazy. Unless your time is absolutely worthless, it'll cost you more in lost time to chase that extra $30 than it's worth.
Maybe he was offering to do that: instant transfer of $30 and hand over $100.
If it was more money I'd expect a fake banking app and excuses why it didn't go straight through, and refuse to leave without the washing machine since he claims tfr has happened. But surely at least it would be $30 cash and $100 scam??
Loved that show. So much better than Breaking Bad.
I'd say it's likely legit if paying on the spot/in advance. Half the transactions I do now involve PayID. I'd make a judgement call based of their profile/communications.
Hell, I've even got lazy with low value items(<$10) and occasionally just let people pick them up and leave cash in the letter box - so far no issues.
Are you seriously that gullible? Tell him to pick up once he has the other $30 cash.
Is this still available?
What Can Go Wrong?
Lots of things.
It's old washing machine. You're lucky to even get $100 and have someone take it away.
$100 for an old washing machine seems fine anyway.
Sure need the $30 cleared in my account (+$100 cash) before they take the item. Otherwise they can turn right around and f off home. Make this clear to them before they come.
Ask them to leave some DNA
I get people to PayID all the time. I won't take a transfer as it can take a few days sometimes.
If they have $100 cash surely they can find another $30?
PayID is just a way to safely get the BSB and account. Separate from Osko.
It does not mean the transfer is any faster. Some banks will delay the first transfer to a new account.
PayID has always been instant for the 50-60 transactions I've done whether it being them paying me or me paying them as a first time payment.
OTOH the $2000 bank transfer on the Skoda took 3 days as have several other transfers.If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but that's been my experience.
Different banks have different policies. $2000 will be over the limit for instant PayID at some banks, but not others.
It is complicated, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Payments_Platform
Not everyone has a spare $30.
Disable it by taking a part off to be provided when the rest of the cash in your hands
Or man up & sell it for $130 cash non negotiable.
I sold a macbook for $550, buyer turns up with $500, and was like… 'oh..i could go to the atm….' but she payid me in the end and once that $50 landed, good enough
Just reply with:
No, money down!
Ask for $30 via PayID when he shows up and you will transfer him back the other $30 (if) when it shows up.
How did it go, OP?
Hopefully better than the scam at the link up higher ^
With all the comments, now I'm afraid to sell a car for 15k on marketplace.
IK I'm hijacking the post, whats the best way for a transaction like this considering people have been scammed by online transfers and charge backs.
Chargebacks of bank deposits aren't really a thing, the scam is usually when they show you a fake banking app or receipt where they swear they paid and it will just come through tomorrow trust me bro let me take the car or I'll get really angry and threatening..
Either ask for a bank cheque and cash it at the bank, or ask for a cleared bank transfer (for a large amount, it will usually take exactly 24 hours, but possibly longer if the bank decides it's sus).
A mate of mine bought a car for $35k, did a transfer but it got held for a day, he came back.
You should be obviously getting each other's license details etc as you need to do the government transfer form anyway.
Could be legit. Have done it myself. Some people don't have all $130 in one payment method. I've had people offer this sort of thing to me too. It has to be payID though cus it's instant and no chargebacks. No PayPal or bank transfers.
My only suspicion would be if they rock up with a $100 bill.
If the $30 is important to you, tell him you'll happily wait until it has cleared.
If you have lots of other interested buyers, tell him first in best dressed and he might suddenly decide he can go to the local ATM.
well i was one of those buyer who only had $25 cash and did $175 payID on the spot. I legit didn't have enough cash and did payment right in front of seller. So may be it is not a scam. All depend on the situation. You can tell by the genuinity of the buyer.
I'm guessing they'll turn up, take it for $100 cash and "trust me bro" and never do the transfer.
If you asked them to do it via payid then and there they'll say they will do it tomorrow etc.