Perfect for taking screenshots of your computer to share to ozbargain :)
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Historic low for a popular camera
To what? Take out loan XD?
conveniently convinced
perfectly cromulent
It doesn't even have pedals
just slightly out of my budget. Anything around the $150 mark ??
Yes the above camera is actually in Japanese yen. Don't worry just buy it.
in case you're serious, hunt for used DSLRs.
no one serious on this thread except OP
OP or OF
@shabaka: OP needs an OF to pay for it, but OP can’t make money on OF without this OP camera to take photos for their OF. Real chicken and egg scenario.
Free bag 😁. So without the deal you get no bag?
Where can I buy money like that to buy this deal?
just download some
You wouldn't steal a money
Perhaps just buy some Indian rupees or Chinese yen
i wonder how many days i can break even using this for my OF business
4 days ? Lieca clarity FTW!
It'll be even quicker if you break steven
Over $1000 off msrp :)
Do you even know the meaning of a bargain? Just because the camera is over 10k does not mean its not a bargain… if there is a good discount on THIS specific item then it is a bargain.
@Tehcookiemonsta: It’s all subjective and relative, but I’m with @thebountyy - A “bargain” might be $4,000 off. Less than 10% off isn’t a “bargain” in my definition either. It’s a normal “sale” price.
A bargain camera deal was when Dick Smith closed and you could get a Canon 7D for more than 50% off.
But if they had 10% off, nobody would care.
Leica do the Apple marketing where they don’t do heavy discounts so they can maintain the premium feel for consumers.
A bargain camera deal was when Dick Smith closed and you could get a Canon 7D for more than 50% off.
Even then, you would’ve saved, what, $900 on the 7D? That’s less than you’d be saving with this bargain…
@Tehcookiemonsta: Yeah, in my books a bargain is a decent price off the "typical selling price".
Just because something is not a firesale, doesn't mean its not a bargain. That's the difference between a "great bargain" vs a "meh" one; and the community consensus using the upvote arrow gives an indication of this.
Lastly, at the risk of sounding mean, just because a high end/top shelf product is expensive and the resultant price is still out of one's wherewithal doesn't mean it warrants shit-talking "sour-grapes" style. I'm sure this is not always the case as some products are purely bad value, but I reckon it's better to call out better alternatives, or post comments that add to the discussion. I'm not saying this may necessarily be the case here, but I see this all across OzB for items that are a bit top shelf.
@ThadtheChad: Anyone can walk into a store and ask for 10% off on a large purchase like this, I did it recently with my $7000 sony camera - no questions asked.
Anyone can walk into a store and ask for 10% off on a large purchase like this, I did it recently with my $7000 sony camera - no questions asked.
That really depends on the profit margin on a particular brand or model. Try walk into a store and ask for a 10% discount on a $10,000 Mac vs another brand for example.
Anyone can walk into a store and ask for 10% off on a large purchase like this, I did it recently with my $7000 sony camera - no questions asked
this is Leica tho, not some pedestrian brand. And Leica Q and M generally do not get discounted as they sell well. SLs do however.
Look i'm not saying it's like a Rolex or Porsche-exclusive but they still operate like a boutique store. They're accustomed to buyers that could drop 20-30k+ in one receipt (which isn't too hard, buys you like 1 body + 1 summilux or noct).
They are not really going to give the time of day to let you haggle with them.
@thebountyy: Very dependent on the brand IMHO, and the "markup" that has been applied by the retailer.
If your $7000 camera was selling for $6000ish online, and you managed to haggle it down to $6300, then yeah that's normal. If the price is the LOWEST online and among brick and mortar stores and is part of a sales/discount campaign, then it's more likely you'd be told to go pound sand.
This applies doubly to very popular models.
@thebountyy: Leica have better colours, much richer than your overpriced crap that panders to a consumer that looks only at resolution.
@Broden: Let’s be real—Sony cameras wipe the floor with Leica. Sony brings cutting-edge tech like insane autofocus, killer low-light performance, and way more versatility with lenses. Leica is basically a fashion statement—a ridiculously overpriced one at that. If you care more about actually taking amazing photos than flexing your gear, Sony wins every time ;)
@thebountyy: There are different types of photographers.
Some treat photography as a science. They want perfect colours, perfect focus, perfect sharpness, perfect bokeh, perfect low light, etc.
Some treat photography as an art. Images don't have to be perfect - it's the subject that matters. It's the look that matters. Colors don't have to be perfect, they just have to evoke an emotion. Lenses can have some vignetting that conveys a mood, bokeh can be nervous. Focus doesn't have to be pin-sharp as it's not about the technical perfection of the image, rather it is the message behind the image.
There's no right or wrong. Someone who takes portraits, events, sports, studio photos for example, would strive more for technical perfection as their photos are meant to accurately represent what they're taking.
But someone who treats photography as an art form might not care about technical perfection as that's not what their photos are about.
Some treat photography as a science.
Some treat photography as an art
Some use camera equipment to analyze pictures,
others use pictures to analyze the camera equipment.
Bit of a difference between Sony and LEICA mate, no offence to your purchase.
Yeah, Leica are a prestige brand where well paid execs and medical specialists pay a huge premium for the red dot because it channels the spirit of Cartier-Bresson. Sony, Nikon and Canon will be used by professionals who make their living shooting (and I'm not talking about the small handful of sponsored Leica pros that they keep for promo purposes).
I've known and worked alongside a fair number of pro photographers over the decades… architectural, interior, heavy industrial, press, sports. They were all Nikon/Canon and then there was a migration towards Sony when their tech got really good. The camera is purely a tool, and the most appropriate tool is chosen for the job- the tool that is capable, has a wide range of rugged lenses, and a program where they will instantly swap out any damaged hardware so you can keep shooting. What they don't choose is a high tech fashion accessory with a famous red dot because none of their clients will see the red dot.
Leica have better colours, much richer than your overpriced crap that panders to a consumer that looks only at resolution.
Who TF is serious about photography and depends on out of the camera colours? Anyone half serious about it has a post processing workflow that reworks RAW. Just saying that 'colours are better' from a camera pretty much puts you into the same pool of photography 'experts' who shoot exclusively with smartphones and argue about Samsung vs Apple camera quality.
architectural, interior, heavy industrial, press, sports
So no one that treats it as an art. Got it. You're just a small brained guy that sees photography as a tool to take photos for a specific purpose, not people who see it as an artform.
@Broden: You think that professional photographers didn't become that way via a love for the art? And and years or decades of training and practice?
How to say you know nothing about photography, without saying you know nothing about photography.
Next thing you're going to say the pinnacle of teh artforms are Lomos and cross processed C41.
Stick to your out of camera jpegs, buddy. Put a red dot on your iPhone.
You think that professional photographers didn't become that way via a love for the art? And and years or decades of training and practice?
Initially it's probably about the art but when you have your own clients but i'm pretty sure it morphs into an act of service/servitude the longer and more established you are in the industry. Anecdotal, but out of curiosity, I asked a photog if he shoots for fun he said no. it's strictly his 9-5 thing and he's looking for a break during his spare time.
Who TF is serious about photography and depends on out of the camera colours? Anyone half serious about it has a post processing workflow that reworks RAW. Just saying that 'colours are better' from a camera pretty much puts you into the same pool of photography 'experts' who shoot exclusively with smartphones and argue about Samsung vs Apple camera quality.
I do agree with what you said about cameras being a tool, but I do not agree with this gatekeeping mentality. it's really DISGUSTING and obnoxious.
it's like asking (rheotrically) why buy a 911 when you can just buy a G80 and (profanity) mod the shit out of it and just be as quick, if not quicker. Not everyone's born to be a race driver, like wise not every person's a professional photographer. Some people just do not want to mess with the internals, and in the context of photography - get bogged down by the workflow.
For some of us it's purely an art and/or a hobby and it's also about the experience. We do not get paid for our photos. I would say the REAL value of cameras with GOOD colour science (Not just Leica mind you, I put Fuji and Ricoh in that category too) lies in the ability to churn out usable, pleasant photos SOOC. You do realise, film photography is basically "SOOC" yeah? If there's a product out there that simplifies the process and removes barrier to taking good photos, so i'm not too sure why you're so judgmental about it.
@dukeGR4: I was calling out the doofus who was trying to put down other brands for the most ignorant reasons imaginable, trying to pretend to be an expert but clearly knowing nothing. Saying that Leica has 'better colours' so it's automatically better than other brands. All this is easily adjustable, and only one of many factors.
One of my cameras is a Fujifilm x100 it does great ooc colour- it's one of the things these cameras are known for. (I don't think I've ever post processed from it.)
I have no problems with what someone chooses as a brand or model- photography is all skill, creativity, practice. A little bit of equipment (unless you're in situations that require specific gear). What I have problems with are ignoramuses who claim brand x is always > brand y.
My dream point and shoot! Just need to win the lottery now.
No need to. Just create a meme coin. Instant lottery win.
Will it come with a car or motorcycle?
Where's the my iphone can take better picture crowd?
All modern flagship phones match, if not excees, iphones in most situations.
That wasn’t what they said.
OP's referring to mobile photographers that seriously think their phones could match proper cameras with sensors that are like 20x larger.
but i agree about iPhones being absolute crap camera these days. Too much saturation and they cook the highlights too much.
but their AI is trained on most liked photos so it's what ppl like apparently
@shabaka: You should check out MKBHD's blind smartphone camera test. They took 20 smartphones and took photos of the same subjects, stripped all the EXIF data and posted it online for people to vote on, purely based on which photos they liked the look of. They got over 20 million total votes so the results should be quite meaningful.
@dukeGR4: I imagine the Xperia would probably do better in manual mode like a traditional camera with manual post-processing compared to the other phones which process the photos for you.
@shabaka: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-16-pro-cameras-vs-pi…
i'm using iPhone 13 Pro max atm, and i'm just so surprised that 3 gens later they're still doing that boosting highlight/reflection thing.
images are still oversharpened, still have this strange green cast which i dislike.
@dukeGR4: In case you or anyone else is serious about using their iPhone for photography, the Lightroom app is the only app I’ve found so far that takes full advantage of raw DNG and manual mode shooting. It’s amazing how much more resolution is contained in those files when you turn off the noise reduction. The grain also isn’t too displeasing and you won’t see it once the photos are posted on social media anyway. I’d say the Lightroom photo mode is also better than the Hallide app. But of course you will need the Adobe subscription to take advantage.
To my eyes iPhones take more natural photos, Samsungs look better because they jack up the vibrancy smand such which people like, but colours on iPhone are more accurate.
@AustriaBargain: errrr no. have a look at this comparison: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-16-pro-cameras-vs-pi…
@dukeGR4: The “Which phone takes better photos?” section of that page seems to support what I said.
…Some images — especially inside the museum with the wide lens and panorama mode — the iPhone was the clear winner. Other times, the Pixel's warmer, more vibrant colors made its shots look better. Overall I'd have to say I prefer the iPhone's images, which tend to look more natural and therefore give me a better base for my own editing…
The new iPhone can't even take pictures. AI crap software means a black screen, force close or a reboot to take any photo on an iPhone now. I often just sketch things because it's quicker and more convenient.
It's not my kind, though the price is very attractive.
Wow, I thought the price was a typo… Shows I have no idea the price of cameras!
it shows you have no idea of the price of a Leica.
it is like a camera
All things considered, it is no big lost that you know nothing about it
Thinking of getting few for the whole family.
Thanks, dad
Bargain :D
I Leica good deal.
Have an upvote from me because I Leica your comment.
$8.95 delivery kills it.
if you do click and collect, someone kills you
This or spend the little bit extra and splurge on these nice cans?
Nvm, no ANC on those. Dealbreaker.
Upvote for the pricey cans, but that pop-up on the site - you nearly earned a downvote for that, alone.
No ANC on the Leica either…
Oh, headphones. Never mind.
Had $10730.72 spare change from my recent superyacht purchace so bought one to take pics with Jeff Bezos when we bump yacht's
I’ve got the Q3 “original” - great camera.
I’d probably hold off for the new Fuji GFX rangefinder rumoured to come next year.
also rumoured to have a fixed slower 28mm F2.5 equivalent lens, which sucks.
F2.5 equivalent @ 35 or 40mm would be good.
Depends what you’re after.
28mm is the ultimate focal length in my opinion.
35 could do everything 28mm could do but with less distortion + slight compression.
40 bridges the gap between 35 and 50, which i also enjoy.
28mm @ F2.5 you will struggle to isolate the subject unless you get pretty close.
Thanks bought 2.
Historic high surcharge of $101.94
The postage put me off. I don't want to drive the Bentley to the city.
$8.95 shipping?! Pfffft, no thanks
Does this camera make people look naked when taking pictures?
You can just take your clothes off regardless of what camera you're using.
and it includes a bag?! sold!
Thanks, price beat at OW for extra 5% off
I can't help but wonder if this package includes the added bonus of a 'data breach leakage' feature at no extra cost?. Still waiting on them to officially tell me they leaked.
it's rumoured that Panasonic helped design the 43mm as they filed a patent with identical specs.
not too sure how it is optically, but the original 28mm Summilux falls short of Leica's usual standards and relies heavily on in-camera correction. It's actually wider than 28mm but they crop the corners a bit to hide vignette or sth.
I had a Leica SL2-S before but I sold it since I think Leica colour is over hyped (could be just my skill please dun kill me any Leica fan boy). I have Fujifilm X-s10, Xpro2 and recently acquired Lumix S5IIX which I'm very happy with colour tone.
I have the Leica SL2-S too! And X-Pro 2 as well. I'm liking the colour on my SL2-S more, that said.
I like to shoot in NAT + Cloudy WB, has this Kodachrome + Portra look to it as blues and reds have a pastel look to them.
On the X-Pro 2, the Portra 400 recipe that I got from FujiX turns the sky into turquoise very often.
What lens do you use on the S5II X?
Yeah, i guess horses for courses. I like to try different film sims in Fuji. I use Leica (and Panasonic in my case) for natural colour and FF capabilities. Panasonic has lots of collab with Leica, S5iix even has Leica monochrome colour profile in latest firmware. I use L mount 35mm f2 Sigma conetemporer lens. All metal build including hood. I like this combo.
I use L mount 35mm f2 Sigma conetemporer lens. All metal build including hood. I like this combo.
jesus, that's my dream lens atm…
I have the 24mm F3.5 and 45mm F2.8, how good is i-series's build quality?!!!!
how are you finding the 35mm F2? there's a cheap Lumix 35mm F1.8 that came up on the used market but looking at Dpreview and Flickr photos i'm not too impressed with the bokeh quality (way too rough for my liking).
@dukeGR4: I'm super happy with the 35mm f2. I can't really comment on the bokeh quality since I'm not too fuss abt it. I just like the analog and click/tactile feedback (aperture ring) on an all metal build. It has that premium n satisfaction feeling to it. It's faster than the 45mm f2.8 so I won't complain for lowlight quality (I used to own 45mm f2.8).
You just convienced me