Car Brake Pads and Rotors Replacement for 2020 Renault Koleos

usbc activist on 20/12/2024 - 09:47
Last edited 20/12/2024 - 13:59 by 1 other user

I have a Renault Koleos that I have for big service yesterday. During the servicing they called and told me I need to get the front brake pads replaced now or within 2000km of city driving. If I want to do it now, it would cost $900. I told them I will get it later to see if I can get a good price for them.

Now, my request to OzBargain community is to suggest the economical way to do it. I already spent $1100 for the big service. Is there a way to replace the brake pads from some other mechanic without breaking the warranty? Do you know of any places in Western Sydney or around where I can get it done cheaper?

Thank you

UPDATE:

I just checked the report. It is not just brake pads but also rotors.

Automotive Brake Pads Car Renault Rotors

Comments

  • jv on 20/12/2024 - 09:55
    -3

    Suggestions for Car Brake Pads Replacement

    Yes, do it.

  • Aldonis on 20/12/2024 - 09:58

    $900 for just the front brake pads seems like a lot, is it rotors as well as the pads?

    • usbc activist on 20/12/2024 - 09:59

      I just checked the reports. They mentioned rotors as well. Thank you

      • Aldonis on 20/12/2024 - 10:02

        Still sounds pricey but that goes towards explaining some of the cost. As long as you're using a licensed mechanic it won't void the warranty so I'd be shopping around if I were you

  • Protractor on 20/12/2024 - 10:01
    -1

    I never give advise on an empty stomach. Once I have brakefast I'll chip in.
    OK, here goes.

    The correct answer is the best pads you can afford, ( DIY or mechanic fitted). Automotive Superstore has a good range and decent pricing.
    Or find the pads you want,shop for the price around the place.You may have trouble getting a mechanic to fit parts you supply,too.

    EDIT: Now the story has changed to rotors as well, I'd accept that quoted job and go for it.

    • JIMB0 on 20/12/2024 - 14:27

      What if op can afford solid gold brake pads?

      • Galvatron on 20/12/2024 - 16:56

        They would be neither the best brake pads for the job nor would they be affordable.

        • Protractor on 20/12/2024 - 21:25

          Thanks for helping out.

  • Euphemistic on 20/12/2024 - 10:04

    Was that dealer pricing? Try another mechanic. Getting someone other than the dealer to do brakes will not void warranty.

    It's normal to recommend rotors as well, especially from a dealer. A brake specialist might advise differently, but you don't want to skimp on brake servicing.

    • usbc activist on 20/12/2024 - 10:06

      Thats great to know. I was worried about voiding the warranty.

      • geekcohen on 20/12/2024 - 10:08
        +3

        Doing brakes/rotors elsewhere won't void the warranty. That's like saying you must use the dealer for new tyres because of the warranty.

  • geekcohen on 20/12/2024 - 10:11

    Set of Brakes + Rotors is roughly $300 to $400, plus labour (two hours maybe, an hour each side roughly). So $900 from a dealer probably isn't too bad, probably get it done for maybe $600-$700 elsewhere all up.

    • bargaino on 20/12/2024 - 12:09
      +2

      Two hours?! At home maybe.

      • eciuj on 20/12/2024 - 13:03
        +1

        Two hours at home? For a first timer maybe. I could knock it out in 1 hour.

    • bazingaa on 20/12/2024 - 14:49

      more like 15mins for a mechanic

  • geekcohen on 20/12/2024 - 10:11

    Also, how old is said Renault Koleos? Are we talking like 2022 Model or are we talking 2018?

    • usbc activist on 20/12/2024 - 10:14

      2020 Renault Koleos Intens

      • geekcohen on 20/12/2024 - 10:16

        hhhmmm…. so going on 4 years. Still got 3 years warranty.

        Ring around for other local mechanics for it. Should be fairly basic. I did them on my old VE Commodore multiple times.

  • Boioioioi on 20/12/2024 - 10:13
    +2

    Such is the life of owning a Renault mate. I've been there too.

    • geekcohen on 20/12/2024 - 10:18

      Some people just like Renault. Had a guy I work with blow a gear box, cost $20k to fix. Went and bought a 2nd hand Renault van (another about 12 months old, and 20,000kms) instead. Eventually fix the original van and sold it. Why he got another Renault, god only knows.

      • Protractor on 20/12/2024 - 10:26
        +3

        Maybe he's into Renault-vating?

      • Boioioioi on 20/12/2024 - 10:34

        The one I had was a car with many features. Clio RS. It was really fast too. Especially considering the price I paid for it. But yeah you pay way more in the long term. Numerous problems and once I fixed one, another one popped up. Constant money pit.

        • MS Paint on 20/12/2024 - 10:39

          Clio/Megane RS is definitely one of the few Euros that I would own - if it was manual. Stupid French.

          • Boioioioi on 20/12/2024 - 11:09

            @MS Paint: Haha I know right. The worst issues I had were with the automatic transmission too. Would shift into neutral and not come out of it at random times. Good fun when you're on the highway. Would have been sweet if it were a manual

          • Gunnar on 20/12/2024 - 11:38

            @MS Paint: Drove an R26.R on the ‘Ring in 2010. Super fun car, more playful than an Evo and when needed was very easy to adjust your mid-corner lines

        • eciuj on 20/12/2024 - 13:05

          I had a 10 year old Renault Megane RS. The only repair it needed was a new turbo solenoid (easy and cheap to DIY). It was only maintenance items otherwise (fluids, filters, brake pads etc). Had it for 7 years.

          • Boioioioi on 20/12/2024 - 21:23

            @eciuj: I'm jealous! They are fun cars, I'm sad I had a bad experience. Unfortunately 3 of my friends have had similar experiences to me, I feel you got fortunate!

  • sumyungguy on 20/12/2024 - 10:13
    +1

    Any interest in DIY? It's one of the easier jobs and you'll make a massive saving. I recently got back into doing my own maintenance and have since done pads and rotors on four cars.

    • usbc activist on 20/12/2024 - 10:15

      Wow. Thats awesome. I don't have any experience frankly. Are there any youtube videos to see to assess my non existent skills against?

    • MS Paint on 20/12/2024 - 10:18
      +5

      I agree but given the op even struggles to spell breaks brakes properly it's best left to someone else on this occasion.

    • EFC94 on 20/12/2024 - 10:20
      +4

      I'd suggest DIY on something like brakes isn't a very smart idea for someone who is asking for advice on how they can get mechanical work done on their car. If they do something wrong it has the potential to kill both themselves and others. It would also void their warranty if something brake related were to happen further down the line.

  • joka on 20/12/2024 - 10:18

    I once decided to go down the path of penny saving so when my VW Golf had to have the rotors and pads replaced, i went to a large third party retailer using non-genuine parts. Turned out i saved around $160. I had to wait a few days. I also ended up taking the day off work since there was no proper waiting area. I also suspect they didn't last as long as the genuine products.

    Would i do it again? No, i didn't think it was worth the inconvenience. At VW, i setup my laptop on a proper desk and work away for the whole day and treat myself to unlimited coffees. At VW they also do it as part of the service, i didn't need to shop around and book another date in with another mechanic.

  • Bignudge on 20/12/2024 - 10:40
    +3

    I'm genuinely curious as to how one can blow through brakes pads and rotors within 5 years. Maybe I don't drive much or carry much load but my 2015 Honda HRV with ~115,000KMs is still on the original brake pads and rotors.

    I visually inspected the front pads and saw probably 5mm of pads remaining, panicked and bought some Bendix pads ready to go… nek minute it's been ~1 year later with daily driving and it's probably down an extra 1mm. The rears… pfft the car will be scrapped before they wear out tbh.

    • MS Paint on 20/12/2024 - 10:49
      +2

      If you do a lot of city driving and brake late then it's feasible. One of my cars is at 300k kms and original pads and rotors. But that's 95% regional driving and I use the manual gearbox to slow down approaching towns (original clutch also).

      • Gunnar on 20/12/2024 - 16:01

        This! Plus it depends on the compounds of pads and rotors (euros use softer pads and rotors meaning they go through them quicker). Performance cars also use pads and rotors quicker because they are more aggressive.

    • Euphemistic on 20/12/2024 - 10:54
      +5

      Its entirely possible the dealer has exaggerated the wear to get an upsell. It wouldnt be the first time theyve offered a 'value add' at a relatively high price.

      Revent service they recommended replacing the wiper blades. $170 for $30 worth of parts and 5min work. Or the AC air channel freshen up for $59 which is 3 second squirts of some cleaner fliud into the air vents.

    • 7ekn00 on 20/12/2024 - 11:36

      Driving habits ;)

      I see plenty of drivers accelerating towards red lights, then braking hard, etc etc

      If your driving a Euro, I am guessing you are pretty ignorant of any efficient driving techniques :P

    • Embaloo on 20/12/2024 - 23:14

      My family go through them super fast, also trying to figure out if its actually the driving habits, the mechanic, or the old age of the corolla somehow contributing???

      Seems like the they are either machined or replaced every 1 year, really adds costs to the 6/8-or-so-monthly service.

      Is there actually much of a difference between all the pad and rotor build quality? Maybe its the quality of the components the mechanic is using??

  • EFC94 on 20/12/2024 - 10:45

    Depends on the type of driving you do and also the quality of the brakes. But I'm with you, I bought a second hand ute 6.5 years ago, put about 120k on it and still haven't had to change them. I even asked the mechanic last time because I was getting suspicious of how long it had been and he told me there's nothing wrong with them.

  • battler on 20/12/2024 - 11:05
    +3

    the old "your brakes need doing" scam upsell from dealers.
    get a second opinion.

  • Darayus on 20/12/2024 - 11:22

    Check if you can polish rotors then it will just cost half the price. Breakpad with quality made are as good as OEM.

    Give call to local mechanics and they have standard price for this 2. For my Subaru I was quoted around $1k but my local mechanic just did it for $ 450 front rotors and breakpad and rear break pad only.

    • MS Paint on 20/12/2024 - 11:34
      +2

      I don't think shops machine rotors anymore. Easier, quicker, safer and likely cheaper just to replace them. Modern discs don't have a lot of extra meat to take off before approaching minimum thickness.

      • CurlCurl on 20/12/2024 - 13:21

        don't think shops machine rotors anymore. Easier, quicker, safer and likely cheaper just to replace them. Modern discs don't have a lot of extra meat to take off before approaching minimum thickness.

        All ways had mine skimmed on my 2007 Pajero at $30 a wheel. Still braked as good as new,

        • MS Paint on 20/12/2024 - 13:36

          Not saying the process didn't work. I'm saying in today's market it's not financially efficient to machine rotors.

          • bazingaa on 20/12/2024 - 14:47

            @MS Paint: My mechanic told me it is like $20 difference now, $80 machining $100 new or something like that

  • 7ekn00 on 20/12/2024 - 11:32

    It's a Euro, am surprised it's not going to cost more :P

  • brendanm on 20/12/2024 - 11:35
    +4

    I have a Renault Koleos

    My condolences.

  • CheapandUsed on 20/12/2024 - 11:35
    +2

    Suggestions for Car Brake Pads Rotors Replacement

    Finally someone used the right spelling for car brakes

    I need to get the front break pads replaced no

    Oh, nevermind.

  • eciuj on 20/12/2024 - 13:11

    Could be an upsell. Check your pads to see how many mm of pad is remaining (inner pad will be harder to check but should be close to the outer pad). Most pads will have a wear indicator that screeches when it makes contact with the rotor, or will have an electronic wear indicator that will come up on the dash. Even when they notify you, you probably still have a few thousand kms of pads left.

  • loropy9 on 20/12/2024 - 13:50
    +1

    My experience based on a Camry: DBA front rotors pair for about $200. Brake pads $70 for Bendix, $110 for genuine Toyota from the dealership. Labour took about 30 minutes last time I did it at the mechanic. Give it an hour. In my case I have covered 70K so far with another ~20K left on the rotors, so not bad for city driving.
    You will not void the warranty as long as it's done by a licensed mechanic using reputable parts - which for example DBA and Bendix are. Keep all receipts as evidence.

    The mechanic will most likely not give you a "squeal free" guarantee if you bring your own parts.

    Definitely worth shopping around, but as others have said above the entire experience may be hit and miss.

  • thesilverstarman on 20/12/2024 - 13:59
    +3

    Mechanic here
    If you want to keep your warranty, there are 2 things you must do:
    1. have all work done by a registered mechanic with invoice provided
    2. use parts that are genuine or oem equivalent.
    The second one is crucial. If you intend on buying the parts yourself, you need to make sure that the manufacturer certifies that the parts are OEM equivalent. Not the seller. Then you would need to get them fitted by a registered mechanic. Most will not fit supplied parts, because their insurance will not allow it, because they are in effect certifiying the parts and become responsible for them. Every industry body advises mechanics to never fit supplied parts under any circumstance. This cannot be avoided by signing anything either, because that would violate consumer law.
    When a mechanic supplies and fits parts to a vehicle that you have told them is under warranty, they are certifying that all parts supplied are OEM equivalent and are fitted as per manufacturers guidelines. This can mean that for example the wheel bearings are removed and regreased, as are silders etc. Failure to fit as per manufactuers specs will void your warranty. You will be covered by the mechanics insurance as well.
    Don't try to save a few dollars and end up voiding your entire warranty. By all means get other quotes, but don't listen to non-mechanics about something this important. And manufactuers will use any means possible to avoid warranty, so don't think its minor. Myself, I only use genuine filters and parts while a vehicle is under warranty to make sure. For example, very few oil filters are certified as OEM and have insurance cover. Ryco does, but other brands made by them do not. In the event of a warranty claim, it is up to you to provide PROOF that all parts fitted are OEM quality. If you can't, you have no warranty.

    • Gunnar on 20/12/2024 - 16:03

      but don't listen to non-mechanics about something this important

      This is probably the best advice you can ever receive on car advice on the internet. When I was younger I obtained and used ‘bro internet advice’. Would have been much cheaper and faster if I took it to a professional in the first place

    • hasher22 on 20/12/2024 - 19:38

      Hello, thanks for the comment.

      I believe I need to replace my brakes and rotors for my mazda 2015 cx3. I'm out of warranty. But my car subtle shakes when I brake from doing 60+ KMPH

      Last December 2023, my local mechanic machine my rotors and replaced front and back brake pads but my question is

      Can I purchase my own parts such as brake pads and rotors and give it to the mechanic to install?

      I don't trust my local mechanic anymore after few services, been ripping me off. For example he charged me $80 for a cabin air filter + $30 labour when this year I literally purchased a cabin filter for $25 and installed it myself under 2 minutes.

      • MS Paint on 20/12/2024 - 21:03
        +1

        For example he charged me $80 for a cabin air filter + $30 labour when this year I literally purchased a cabin filter for $25 and installed it myself under 2 minutes.

        That's not unusual. It's also the reason why so many people DIY. Majority of maintenance tasks are piss easy.

  • JIMB0 on 20/12/2024 - 14:34

    DIY. It's not hard. They can only void the warranty on related components. If your engine blows up they'd have a hard time pinning it on your brake job.

  • bazingaa on 20/12/2024 - 14:43

    my mechanic's usual price is $300 per wheel as I remember (could be less, both ? I remember something about ~$100 per rotor from Repco, can't find the invoice now), supply and install of rotor + break pad, I haven't had a Renault Koleos though.

    normal service is $150

  • tonyjzx on 20/12/2024 - 16:12

    this is a prime example of this place seriously not knowing anything

    the Koleos is a T32 Xtrail underneath.

    Go to an independent preferably someone who has worked on an exotic suv like an Xtrail (!!!)

    get it done there

    they are not too expensive but they arent super cheap either

    the Koleos and Xtrail eats rear pads and rotors because it relies on them to maintain electronic stability control.

    • Browsers on 20/12/2024 - 16:57

      And just for comparison if it helps OP, my old T32 Nissan Xtrail had the rotors changed at about 80,000km/7 years old, and it had started to show some mild brake judder through the steering wheel when braking steadily from 100kmh.
      More recently VW said I would need full pads and rotor replacement on a TCross at 40,000km/4 yrs old. I then took it to an independent mechanic that was part of the Bosch approved service network, they replaced the pads and said rotors were fine.

  • pharkurnell on 20/12/2024 - 16:56

    I already spent $1100 for the big service

    Pickle me grandmother!!!!

    • Protractor on 20/12/2024 - 21:28

      Pickle me grandmother!!!!

      Same price if you supply the drum.

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