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MSI Claw Ultra 5 135H 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD $599 Delivered (RRP $1299.00) + Surcharge @ JW Computers

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For those who missed out on the recent centrecom promotion. $50 more but 1 terrabyte drive rather than 512 gigabytes so probably fair.

Surcharges: 0.8% card, 1% PayPal, 2.2% Latitude.

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  • -5

    amazing price

    lemme guess why… its the intel arc thing isnt it?

    • +11
      • +7

        $799-$899 usd is wild

        • I might get that to replace my desktop.

    • What is that? Some release about to make these obsolete?

      • +3

        https://www.msi.com/Handheld/Claw-8-AI-Plus-A2VMX

        well i mean these will be over $1k and being Arc will always be a hard sell

        $600 might be a good deal if you're into emulation and less than AAA gaming

      • No offence to anyone who gave one of these a go but these were obsolete as soon as they were released… A new version based on Lunar lake is going to be miles better. Driver support etc will still be an issue for Intel based GPUs.

        • -2

          So what? they still work and for 600 bucks its a bargain.

          • +2

            @Geeseman: I think not once you read reviews

          • +3

            @Geeseman: Sure it's an ok price but the product wasn't good, if you want it as a indie games type console I'd rather steam deck, maybe it's ok for emulation but again I'd take the steam deck over this… Vs Z1 based hand held this thing is all over the place some games close.. Some nowhere near… It's something that the buyer needs to research well make sure is ok for games they want to play.

    • +2

      New Lenovo Legion Go 2 due soon too

      • +1

        yep Jan CES all the Z2 chip based hand helds will be released along with i'd say more Lunar lake stuff … but they'll be way more expensive than this so this is a good toy to play with for some of us who like to tinker .. :) i just don't have $600 lying around hehe

        • I thought Lunar only made CDs/DVDs/accessories, don't tell me they make GPUs now. Lol

          • +1

            @sn809: Haha Intel isnt far off the way Lunar went with their products last few years.. But their mobile chips are pretty good… Lunar Lake is at least a better name than 258V with 140v graphics… Whatever TF that's meant to mean.

  • Can this play squad

    • Probably, on the lowest settings, but you'd struggle to play with handheld controls.

  • Really tempted by this price point… Anyone can make a guess how good this will be for competitive rocket league?

    • +7

      I got mine the other day and have been playing it. I haven’t played rocket league on it yet, but to give you an idea, GTAV runs gets about 70fps at 1080p with medium/high settings. F1 23 low/medium at 1080p getting around 90-100fps. I’m sure rocket league would run well. The controller buttons are a little mushy feeling and not the best, would take time getting used to.

      • What’s the battery life like in your use case?

        • Not great TBH - an hour to an hour and a half. Few hours on battery mode playing low power games such as PokeMMO. I rarely play without the charger plugged in, as I use the Claw whilst laying/sitting on my bed.

          My mate has the AllyX and it looks like battery on all handhelds are pretty crap.

      • Is this the only PC Handheld that has joystick and buttons rgb colour changing on the fly or can the others do that too?

        I watch a video on the claw and the buttons where changing from blue to red to green while playing rather then sticking to one colour only

        • The rog ally handhelds do. You can customise it in its Armoury Crate software

          • @San4k4: Yer I’ve been keen on one but I just can’t bring myself to it as it has the SD card issue and the X is $$$

    • +1

      Hard no. The input lag might be unprectable, screen size is puny and you may struggle to judge distances, and as you rank up you'd want bakkes mod etc on PC with log input lag controller and a 165hz and higher monitor.

      What rank r u?

      • Yea it wouldn't be my main machine, more just to play in bed or in transit to keep the muscle memory sharp. Any reason you wouldn't be able to install bakkes mod on this device though 🤔
        Don't judge, I'm Plat 3 (Diamond 1 on a good day)

        • +1

          That would even be worse IMHO. Playing on two different devices with vastly different input lag etc would demote you. I only commented as you said competitive. IF it's just casual, no probs.

          I suspect you will get worse mechanically if you kept switching constantly between two devices.

          Just my two cents.

          btw I am also D1-D2 in 2s. I think 35% of player base is D.

          • @Naigrabzo: Thank you very much for the feedback
            I already play on 3 diff devices (ultrawide PC, TV via XBOX, Nintendo Switch) but hate playing on the Switch because of the low refresh screen
            In my head, any extra time on RL is better than none (have a kid) even if its not in teh same ideal conditions every time
            I will continue thinking about this haha

            • @ericshurn: Dude I switched from the nintendo to PC and ranked up instantly. It just feels soooo much better.

              I have a cheap hall effect wired controller from Amazon. Works well. Best of course is the PS4 controller that the pros use.

  • +2

    It would make a nice hand held emulator up to ps3.

    • +2

      I’ve been doing some Wii and DS emulation, so far, VERY solid!

      • +7

        I mean, so would a decent phone and a Bluetooth controller though…

      • +1

        Can it do Switch? this is why i am after a handheld,tbh.

      • +1

        This isn’t impressive tbh

  • Can I just treat this like a mini pc, with a dock then using a monitor use it as a PC? As least I can bring it with me as a 'portable' pc

    Oh no, just checked reviews, pretty crappy and I bet all other retail shops will drop price soon too … HODL as usual!

    • +3

      It should perform like a newish i5 laptop. I've seen 12400h mini pcs recently for under 500 though, might be more worth it

    • +1

      Not pretty crappy but ugly or very crappy

  • When the ones with the new core Ultra 2 chips drop to this it will be a lot more interesting

  • +2

    This would be a good PS Portal anlternative that lets you do some light PC gaming and emulation. Not bad for the price.

  • +1

    Interested if it was the Ultra 7 for under $600. Just wanna play pc games that are not available on consoles along with emulation N64 PS2 etc so don’t really wanna pay over $1k for the new models plus wife said no!

    And also playing Fortnite on it that looks way better then playing on Switch

  • Can anone recommend razo edge gaming tablet buying from amazon?

    • +1

      No, android-based for the same price as this? Claw might be underpowered compared to AMD Z1 competitors, but it's still a lot better than the SD G3x and can actually play PC titles.

      The Razer edge is ok if all you play is COD:M, genshin, etc.

  • -1

    the reviews of this didn't suggested avoid.

    • +4

      What?

    • Because most reviews are 8 months old……

  • +1

    OG Steamdeck better

  • +2

    USB-C Thunderbolt 4 apparently, could easily use this as a laptop replacement if you utilise USB-C docks everywhere

    • So this should be compatible with an egpu?

      • It is compatible yes.

      • Didn't even think of that…. Now that would be insane

  • +2

    If you've got the $15 welcome voucher, free shipping or click and collect, and pay by direct deposit, the cost could be as low as $584. I'm pretty tempted to return my Centre Com $549 order (still on the way), but may not worthwhile considering the return cost (time, fuel, etc.).

    If the new version is a ripper upgrade, it probably won't be as affordable as this one, even in the next Black Friday sales.

    • I only got offered a $10 welcome voucher!

      • $10 for a new email address and additional $5 for a new phone number

        • How do you get that to come up? Ah, just opened incognito.

    • It seems that the $15 voucher now disables the free shipping option, so the $9.95 standard shipping option has to be selected

      • Lots of other retails already dropped to $8XX, looks like thats the new RRP, Mobileciti even down to $699 on ebay (if happens t have another 20% discount will be cheaper), so bet this boxing day sale, we will see this goes lower, if buyers keep HODL, with excessive stocks around, MSI got no choice but to drop this further.

  • +1

    Waiting for $500 :-)

    • +1

      Yep, bet xmas this will go below $500

  • +2

    Cries in paid $1599

  • All the reviews I've seen are for the i7 version. It seems like it pretty much on par with steam deck in performance but with added power draw and less battery. Just wondering how the i5 version fares?

    • i5 is sometimes faster than the same i7

      • +1

        Yeah but seems most reviewers still prefer AMD version perform better and for future maintenance

  • +4

    Frankly the price is still high…imho a $499 will or lower for 512gb version will move stock. It just cant stand a chance against amd based ones. Moreover linux support blows on msi hardware and to date no distro can properly use this. And msi, like gigabyte, has a track record on completely giving up on their superseded products.

    But on saying that it is still a better choice for emulation only device…easy choice over retroid/ayn/aya neo imho.

    • +1

      But the weight compare to Retroid pocket 5. The reason I got Retroid pocket 5 is because my Steam Deck is too big and heavy!

      • Fair call. But like I just get slap those razer kishi things on my old reg magic phone with an amoled display…and is my insta on the go handheld. But must say RP5 seems decent for it's offering…just the analog stick mapping doesn't work for me.

  • Great price. But not sure I am going to use it as I got Steam Deck and Retroid pocket 5 coming!

  • how is this compare with the Lenovo one?

    • Legion Go has removable controllers if that's your thing. Screen is an extra inch (8") for the Legion. AMD Z1 Extreme in Legion performs better.

      Note, new Legion Go S leaked, it's adopting a design more akin to the Claw/Ally, with controllers one piece with the screen body.

      • +1

        thanks I just bought the last legion go from Lenovo

        • Lol I posted the deal you bought from 😅
          I should have recognised your username.

  • +7

    The Claw is less powerful/less power efficient than the AMD powered machines but the real advantage is that it is basically just an Intel powered Windows laptop in a gaming controller. Meaning any updates that come from Intel/Microsoft are directly installable without a need for a custom build like there is for the AMD machines, people have installed Windows 10 on it with no problems. Plus with TB4 you could possibly upgrade the GPU when you are docked.

    If you are playing things on it that aren't the latest and greatest the experience can be great. I only use mine for Rocket League and it is a far better experience than the Switch when out and about.

    Remember there are no bad products, just bad prices, and at $549 (I got from Centrecom) I think the value proposition is good.

    • I hate playing RL on the switch, what kind of FPS are you getting with it?

      • +1

        Yer Fortnite on the switch with its toned down visuals etc is not great

        $500ish for the Ultra 7 and ill get one for Fortnite, Emu and PC games not available on consoles and also to play the free games I get weekly on Epic & GOG as I don’t have a PC

        • I saw a video online that for some reason Ultra 5 sometimes performs similar/better than Ultra 7? or is that before all driver updates etc

          • +3

            @ericshurn: Yeah, the Ultra 5 is actually outperforming the Ultra 7 in some games. Since this is a battery powered device with power and thermal constraints, the CPU and GPU are likely competing for power, so efficiency is the key.

            • @fastnet: I’d want it cheaper tho anyhow so I’m happy to wait

      • +2

        MSI Claw settings: performance mode profile, not plugged in
        RL settings: fullscreen (it seems windowed mode loses performance), no AA, everything high except motion blur off, free play

        1080p: ~105-110fps
        900p: ~125-130 fps
        720p: ~145-150fps

        I find the UI a bit small in 1080p mode so have been using 720p which always sits above the 120hz that the display can do.

        • Hi, I just received mine today! But having trouble getting rocket league running (other games work fine)
          Any advice?

          • @ericshurn: Do all Windows updates even the optional ones, do all updates in M Center, go to Intel website and get the latest Arc driver.
            It took me a day or so to get everything updated, I had a weird missing library error on startup that got resolved once I installed the full Intel driver package and then updated everything via Intel Driver & Support Assistant (which gets installed with the full Arc driver).

            I was running from Epic, not sure if you are trying from Steam?

            • @raiamino: So odd, I've definitely updated every windows updates (inc optional)
              The M center (red app) has no more to update
              And I used the Intel driver and support assistant to make sure I have the latest arc driver (Dec 13 2024 version)
              Also running from Epic
              But still Rocket League isn't running

            • @raiamino: Update: I got it working. Reddit post saying to go into my documents and rename rocket league file to 'rocket league old ' which prompts it to open properly

              • +1

                @ericshurn: Well that is an issue I haven't run into previously. Good to hear you made it back to the field!

    • XeSS support is also significantly better

  • OOS now

    • of coz, even their ebay site only got 2 left !!! Dont think they got that many stock at all
      https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/226268684490?_skw=msi+claw&itmme…

      Will wait for other retailers to drop their once the 8 series is out

      • Nah still showing available for me and free shipping. Possibly oos before.

        • Yeah bet MSI must have sh\t load of these they want to get rid of before the next 8 ai+ arriving, but when I checkout reddit, the word 'stuttering' popping up a lot on this thing, I would say don't waste your cash now, not till this go below $500 (or include that free bonus accessory kit), otherwise we might see 'Cries in paid $599' just like someone above lol …

  • Delivery isn't included in the price. Free for pickup.

  • -7

    I got the Odin Pro for $225 delivered with a screen protector and case. That would have been a better deal than that, or even the Odin 2.

    • +1

      Comparing an Android ARM gaming handheld to a windows x86 one? Right…

      • -6

        No, it's the complete experience, not architecture, to which I'm comparing. I know, difficult to comprehend.

        • +1

          These serve different consumers. The android ones are for android games, plus emulation.

          The windows/Linux handhelds play PC games, plus emulation, plus whatever desktop applications you need.

          The complete experience(s) are different and serve different purposes.

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