Saw this in CE: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/hyundai-i30-sedan-driv…
Hyundai i30 sedan on sale until the end of the month for $29,990 driveway.
Hyundai i30 CN7 Sedan Smartstream G2.0 Petrol IVT FWD $29,990 Driveaway @ Hyundai
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silenthillrocks on 11/11/2024 - 12:03 hyundai.com (11885 clicks)
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Used car prices are still higher than pre-COVID.
I remember that around Jan 2016, this car had a $19,990 driveaway pricing offer. Just for context. That was 8 years ago!
Great car overall!Interesting, so you saw one 4 years before even Hyundai saw it.
Amazing, you should have bought 10.
Sorry but there was no i30 sedan in 2016. Nice try.
Sorry I meant the hatch. :(
Sorry clarifying that this was the i30 hatch. At that point the Elantra(now i30 sedan) was about $21000 driveway.
Dw, they're just being asses.
:)
Lol 8 yrs ago
praise the (Chinese) lord!
Nice, cannot wait to see Camry back to $30,000 as 2019
Won't happen when Toyota is rebadging a 2019 camry as a 2024 with new lights and all the latest immigrants are stocking up for ubers
No longer looks like an i30, but more like an Elantra. And that was the biggest piece of horseshit ever.
No longer looks like an i30, but more like an Elantra.
It is an Elantra
Only Hyundai Australia decided to re-badge it as the i30 Sedan so they could pump up their VFACTS numbers and tell Seoul they were competing with the Corolla
I've had my 2011 Elantra since it was new and it's been an utterly fantastic vehicle. Has seriously never given me any problems and I'd recommend them to anyone.
The 2011 Elantra was the best looking one, with the (then new) fluidic sculpture styling.
wasn't this like "American Car of the Year" winner at some point?
Glad you like it. Had one a few years earlier than that, the ride & handling was attrocious. Perhaps it was improved.
This car is a 2012 North American Car is the Year award winner.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/hyundai-elantra-range-rover-ev…
Whats the rrp?
$29,990
The hatch was $20k driveway 5 years ago I'm pretty sure. Crazy what covid has done to the price of these.
minimum wage was 19.49 in 2019 and now it's 24.10
If you're buying a brand new car on minimum wage you've probably got much bigger issues to deal with, and thats an entirely new argument.
The new Hyundai i30 sedan should be $19990 drive away ..no more to pay.
What you're missing is that the dollar's purchasing power has reduced.
$19900 5 years ago was 9.18 oz of gold, or 1021 hours of min wage labour (at the time),
$19900 today is only 4.89 oz of gold, or 825 hours of min wage labour.@ $30k today is still only 7.34 oz of gold, so it has come down in price still. Wages haven't kept up with rampant inflation so this is 1238 hours of min labour.
Many people are programmed to think in dollars, but if the dollar's purchasing power is constantly changing (it's no secret, old men get up almost every month and say we are aiming to reduce it by 2-3% pa) you can't use it across time to measure things.
10k increase in 5 years and another 10k+ in another 5 years? I don't think it's 33% overall inflation in 5 years. Supply chain and transportation made cars expensive these days.
You missed the point I was making about how the dollar isn't great at measuring, especially recently.
But 33% in 5 years is only 5.87% pa average. With the target 2-3%, this really isn't much (3% for 5 years is 15%, but using the consumer CPI makes no sense). Most things have gone up in price by at least this much since 2019. Think health care, childcare, food, energy. etc.
Supply chain and manufacturing costs are the largest cost drivers, you are basically saying all costs have increased. That isn't an explanation anymore when everything is more expensive at the same time.
The currency has absolutely devalued 33% over this time period, its more obvious in hard assets like land prices and commodities.
The near 0% interest rates during COVID encouraged trillions of dollars in new loans which haven't been paid back yet, that money is still circulating and inflating prices. The total value of Australian real estate increased from 7 trillion to 10 trillion in just 2 years - that has created a lot wealth that didn't exist before.
$10k is nothing for a boomer that had a house paid off already, so prices keep increasing without any resistance, plenty of people can afford it. The manufacturers just tell you it's because of complex reasons, what actually occurred is manufacturers had a reason to start increasing prices due to parts and transport shortages - and they didn't find a reason to stop increasing prices. Their explanation that ends up in the media isn't going to put it so bluntly, you need to think it through yourself
Are these still using their famous Theta engines? The ones getting Hyundai/Kia sued to oblivion in the US. Mechanics in the US rates as the worst brand to buy.
I wouldn't touch a Hyundai until they grasp fundamental engineering for their cars as I very much doubt they're providing better quality vehicles for the Aussie market over the US is getting and experiencing.
I've signed up for this class action. I have one of these engines. 1.6 Turbo mated to 7 speed DCT. 7 Years later still going strong though. No issues.
I had a 2010 i45 with the Theta II engine, owned it for 11 years since new. No issues.
good for you, my mates i45 engine just ceased earlier this year, at around 200K. so its real
Are these still using their famous Theta engines?
No
These use the G4NS Smartstream G2.0 MPi Atkinson Cycle, the 3rd generation of the Nu Engine and officially called the "G4NIII" in Australia
The 2nd gen Nu Engine is however included in the recently settled US Engine II Class Action Settlement
Still over priced, plenty room for further price drop.
I prefer any Chinese brand over Hyundai. I've owned two Hyundais, and even in the worst-case scenario, I doubt a Chinese brand could be any less reliable than a Hyundai.
Might as well include the Indian brands with the Chinese then lmao
Why?
Because troll.
I've got the new i30 hybrid, paid $32k for demo (1.5k km on the clock) does 4.1l per 100km no aircon, with aircon prolly closer to 4.3l. 42l tank, get on average 850km out of it so cheap to run.
Panels feel like they are made out of plastic, kept bending in when washing it. Boot only opens through key or handle which can be annoying. Having no DAB sucks but use radio apps to bypass, speed limit warning is super annoying and you have to turn it off every time you turn on the car.
The entertainment system works fine, wireless android is great. Drives fairly easy, lots of interior room, boot can also fit 2 medium suitcases, overall happy with the car for the price.does 4.1l per 100km no aircon, with aircon prolly closer to 4.3l. 42l tank, get on average 850km
What type of driving are you doing? (highway/city/mixed?)
Mainly city driving, it does better in city than highway, as the battery is used during take offs, probably so 70%city 30%freeway
Panels feel like they are made out of plastic, kept bending in when washing it.
People keep complaining about Toyota price jacking but it's been worse with Hyundai
They've gone for quality shrinkflation combined with price inflation
There was a short window before the pandemic where Hyundai were going very well - about the same time they hired the BMW M boss to head up the N division - but sales are down this year with more now choosing the cheaper KIA's
Is there a difference with KIA's? I thought most were essentially the same car with different styling and badges.
Like a Alfa Romeo was just a rebadged Fiat.
mehh id take the MG4 EV anyday over this base line petrol only for $1k more, the hatch same trim is $40k lol
the new chinese EVs are coming soon, there will be even more EV options in the 30k to 40k range soonHow much does it cost to insure compared to the i30 petrol?
The gap is probably less than a months savings in petrol costs
Any chance it'll drop to 25k? Been looking used market for this car at around that price but the MSRP looks to be getting pretty close now
MSRP is a US term - it's RRP in Australia.
i29
I just checked the inventory at my three nearest dealers and all the base model stock is only in white :( practical yes, but I'd rather red or blue
$19999? Maybe.
Only 1/3 off their current discounted price! Yep sounds realistic. Maybe you're spending USD
if you can, wait until next year. all cars are getting cheaper. you will be able to find geat dealz due to.the china cars that are coming.
most of the legacy automakers will probably go bankrupt.btw have you seen the xiaomi SU7
btw have you seen the xiaomi SU7
You mean the Mclaren / Porsche ripoff?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCbryWfXQAAItrm.jpg
https://x.com/garageklub/status/1761433534324248964Xiaomi were made so you had something to aspire to since the Porsche would obviously be out of reach for you
Cope
@smartProverble: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ferrari/comments/11nzz5s/purosangue…
Alot of cars have the same silhouette
Cope more
You really had to dig hard to find this? 40min video
Wake me up when its buy 1 get 1 free cars.
I thought Mr Bond has many fancy cars with all kinda gadgets at disposal
Shame there's no manual transmission option. Pass.
Yeah heaps of those going around
Whilst the demand is falling due to slower economy, the asking prices of second hand cars are still asurdly high. Much much higher than pre-Covid times which doesn't make sense in today's time.
No it makes perfect sense. just like houses, nobody likes to lose so nobody sells below what they bought them for if they can. But unlike houses they won't go far, offer sellers a lower price and most will budge.
The base i30 hatch was going for 20k new and sedan for 23-25k (albeit Elantra instead of this design) 4 years ago. Same engine and insignificant upgrades since, in fact I am pretty sure they took stuff out. Inflation plus greed is a crazy thing. Bring on the Chinese cars and whoever else wants to join the fray.
My Ranger XLT is now $11,500 more than I Paid 4 years ago. The increases are across the board.
Just purchased this car for my son but in the Elite version for $33,000. Yet to take delivery. (couple of weeks away) Tried to get him into a Mazda but he wouldn't have it. Oh well lets see how the pricing goes over the next few months.
What is the point of driving an auto transmission or EV car?
to get from one place to another?
Damn, I just got a new car a few months ago, and now this pops up at a comparable price
Personal subjective opinion, I think it's ugly both inside & out. If you don't mind the look it defiantly a serviceable car & should last the test of time. However, I just don't find this an attractive vehicle (and I love sedans as well)
I don’t like fossil fuel vehicles
I just bought a pre owned toyota chr 2017 cheapest on the market. I wouldnt bother about these chinese cars but they will definitely lower price, toyotas are always a good buy to retain resell value.
really? was looking for a used car, not that many options for <10yo, <150km, ~$10k. Doesn't look like collapsed.