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[Pre Order] AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 Core 16 Thread up to 5.20GHz AM5 CPU - No HSF, Retail Box $799 Delivered @ PLE
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Kazusa on 08/11/2024 - 12:53 ple.com.au (1829 clicks)
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Honestly hard to say, I would say similar situation to the 4090 due to the immense success of the 7800X3D
not really, GPU's are much much harder to supply in bulk early on, this is generally not the case with CPU's. I expect supply will be quite abundant quickly.
The 9800X3D uses the same CPU chiplet as the 9700X (which recently had a price drop) and also the 9950X (which uses 2 CPU chiplets).
I imagine that AMD has a huge stock of the CPU chiplets and will periodically adjust how many they package with the additional cache as X3D chips based on the sales figures in order to maximise profits.
The main thing different to gpu's, is that high end gpu's usually have a very limited supply when released. Where as cpu's generally always have decent to good levels of supply.
Odds on prices will stay around 800-820 for a few weeks (with it going in and out of stock frequently), then we may see a few touch better black friday deals (maybe 750, with a low 700 possible from at least one store doing a 'crazy black friday' deal).
It will then take a few months to get down to probably stablise around 650-700, then at best, it will hit $550-$600 in about a years time during next years black friday.
No way any store does a black Friday deal for this cpu
They will do stock of 1 sales to bait people into their sites
9800X3D won't go down in price until they get sold second hand unless something is wrong with it.
I don't know, the 7800X3D was a well reviewed chip and it saw decent pricing decreases pretty early.
Except this time 9800X3D doesn't have competition unfortunately. Intel stuffing up is a bad thing.
If you're referring to "market gets flooded with units…", are you referring to the 5700X3D incident? I think that's a one-off case due to various factors. The end-of-life of AM4, buying an older platform brand new becomes increasingly more difficult as time goes on. Paired with an excess, oversupply of 7nm TSMC Zen3 3D Vcache chips produced during 2020, 2021, 2022.
I don't think the high end is at risk of being flooded with chips but possibly the low end? 7600X3D also got silent launched recently7800x3d went down quite a bit, not to mention 5….
Intel 14th gen was competitive enough with 7800x3d though, there is no competition this time except with amd themselves
I know generally over time prices will decrease (I say generally because we have seen hard drives increase after flooding, ram after factory fires etc, GPU's with crypto), and for items where there is no direct competitor (ie 4090, this cpu) there is no incentive for manufacturers to reduce the price unless sales are lower than expected (probably won't happen with this cpu as intel have nothing to offer as a direct competitor yet).
While I don't see flooding or earthquakes affecting TSMC's production, certain countries nearby and political idiologies could cause TSMC to go offline, in which case prices for electronics could skyrocket, and depending on the resolve of world governments certain stores that have 95% of their products originating from a particular country find their shelves empty.. That or a financial collapse given the US debt level… What I guess I'm trying to say is, given the instability in the world, prices are hard to predict, probably won't really drop initially, and just buy it and enjoy it in the moment. Even if it drops $200 in 12 months, that's 12 months of insane gaming performance you'll miss out on, and what price can you put on that? ($799 apparently)
Price did go down $100ish but eventually the 7800x3d went back up in price. Recently they were selling for $689. Mainly due to immense popularity.
For anyone interested, everywhere is sold out (as far as I'm aware) except Shopping Express,
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-5…Have you used this site before?
Yes, it's a fairly well known retailer, though not as big as the major pc retailers (mwave, pccg, computer alliance, umart, etc)
I believe they only still have stock because they didn't post that they had stock til they sent out their promo email at 10.30am this morning.
I didn't actually check shopping express last night, so I can't be sure if they had stock at midnight last night.
Everywhere else sold out within the first 15mins after midnight, with only a few stores (umart/msy and computer alliance having stock til early morning). Umart/msy probably had stock til early morning because they didn't post their stock availability til at least 1.30am (I checked at midnight, 1am, and 2.30am). Computer Alliance was pretty prompt with their stock availability, and actually wasn't sold out for at least the first few hours after midnight.
I used them for a CPU purchase 2 years ago. Had to RMA after a few months and I received my replacement fairly quickly. So from my n = 1 I can recommend them.
OOS there as well
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when im in a cherry picking competition but my opponent is Bludger
These dont have intergrated graphics do they?
i.e want to build something now but hold out for 5000-series nvidiaCan you do the thing where you delegate small video tasks to igpu and use external you for gaming?
How do you do that?
There is an option in Windows to choose what GPU is utilized for certain apps.
Obviously Nvidia GeForce has broader customisation. I'm sure adrenaline would have something similar
yeah they have an IGPU
F series are the ones without igpu
It literally say's it has the retail box in the name of the item.
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 Core 16 Thread Up to 5.20GHz AM5 - No HSF Retail Box
TBF it kinda reads like “Works on contingency? No, money down!”
lol.
Need to be old to get all The Simpsons references these days
I thought it meant: No HSF, Retail box. Basically, there is no CPU heatsink fan cooler included. It's still the retail box version (AMD doesn't include a CPU cooler for this CPU).
I imagine you wouldn't get the fan in the boxed one either though, box size is too small. Would think everyone would fit their own air/water cooler on this enthusiast chip?
None at this level come with a factory heatsink, Nobody would want to nerf a premium chip with a $2 basic extrusion heatsink.
6.9 GHz
nice
Bought last night. Hope they'll ship the order in order :)
jfc it's nearly double the price of what a 7800x3D was selling for on AliExpress
On AliExpress
woosh
You have to compare like for like. If you are measuring against AliExpress wait for an AliExpress deal.. don't compare against an Aussie retail store.
I'm sure you will get it cheaper on AliExpress when they start listing them
PCCase Gear was selling it last night for $799 too and I bought one and it is already showing shipped status. Kind of amusing to see that PCCase gear hiked the price up to 829 this morning saying - Please note a small price increase has been applied due to increased suppliers costs for faster supplier shipments (we want to get the stock here as soon as we can for you). I guess extra 30 is not that much instead of having to wait for few weeks.
EDIT: Unless I am not making a mistake in my mind, I believe PLE last night was $829 at 12:01 AM.
So what mobo+RAM combos are you guys using with this 9800X3D CPU ?
I've ordered a m-atx msi PRO B650M-A WiFi for $189 from amazon
Scorptec was running with $829 as well, but had free shipping on it I believe.
I think CentreCom was the best deal at 799 with free shipping, but I'm pretty sure you would have needed to be on their paid club option to get it last night.
I checked at 12.01 and it wasn't listed for normal members. Checked back at 12.45am, sold out. Not sure if they sold out prior to launch, because paid club get earlier access to deals apparently.
It's $49, with $30 sign up voucher, and $10 bday vouchers each year. Ok for first year, not great after 1st year, imho.
centrecom free shipping doesnt apply to regional WA unfortunately, so PCCG at $799 with express courier shipping @ $17 was a good deal last night. Glad i didnt decide to wait till the morning to get it.
I am their premier member, didn't see any chance to place the order
So you were on last night, before midnight, and they didn't have it up for presale as a premier member?
Interesting.
Did you get it from them after midnight? Any idea when their listing went up?
@metalslaw: It was about 12:30 and sold out just after the page was accessible. I've never seen it in-stock or pre-order. They didn't set any stock for it, I guess
@Meteor Anarcom: I did see it in stock for a few minutes but sold out really quick. I called them and they said they have plenty stock coming but it is very popular and will prob sell out quick. I heard China also 3000 units sold out under 1hr
X870E taichi
I got an Asus ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING WIFI & Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM
I just happened to be looking when they all came online last night. All but 2 places were $799. PLE was pre-order from the get-go and I put it in my cart but figured I'd wait till morning to see if anyone was in stock and doing free shipping, or even if Amazon put them up.
@7:30am AWST most places had raised prices or OOS so went with the PLE pre-order.
PCCG had it for $799 yesterday and now selling it for $829 on backorder
Impressive, but nah, 5800X3D still performs well enough
yeh saving my $$ for 50 series card, AFAIK my 7600 doesnt bottleneck the games I play (though I realise I could probs get a few extra frames here and there with an X3D card)
yep, I really dont understand people who buy a new cpu each generation. Same for GPU really. All the people saying the 9000 series were a failure cuz it wasnt a big upgrade from the 7000 series are idiots IMO. They are worth it for people upgrading from older platforms and for people building new PCs
Slightly better performance at lower power/thermals still makes it worth it to me.The 9800X3D is a beast, and if u are ok with the added cost of buying it on Day1, it should make for a nice gaming PC.
I agree with you tho, your 5800x3D is more than enough. I feel the same way about my 5900. kinda sucks that my wifes new PC will beat mine tho :P
They are worth it for people upgrading from older platforms and for people building new PCs
Slightly better performance at lower power/thermals still makes it worth it to meHardly better performance or efficiency, at significantly greater cost than the market price of almost identical product already on the market. Doesn't matter what you were upgrading from, might as well have pocketed the change and gone 7000 series. The criticism was justified, the release did nothing for consumers.
Not a terrible product at all, just a bad price.
When it was brand new, the price was more than the previous gen, but its price has already dropped. It was more efficient than its predecessor, just not a big performance difference. price will also continue to drop even further now that its been out for a while. You can pretty much always save money buying previous generation once something new comes out, thats just how it is. In the end 9000 series is better than 7000, just not by a huge amount. to some the price increase is worth paying, to others, they should buy the 7000 series which are also extremely good. Once price drops more on the 9000 series and they cost the same, there would be no reason to buy the older gen
@DanielP2: Waiting for a product to drop in price so that it is as good value as it's predecessor is a let down if it offers almost no improvement. If it brought meaningful uplifts in performance or efficiency fair enough. The midrange rtx4xxx cards were the same and were treated as such by reviewers, though they at least had an argument of new dlss features and real efficiency gains.
The 9000x processors are hardly more efficient than the non-x 7000 series as I understand it from multiple reviews. I could be wrong, haven't revisited data since launch. In gaming at least… Not sure about other use cases.
You can pretty much always save money buying previous generation once something new comes out
Yeah you sometimes expect better value from the older gen, but for the new gen to be a viable alternative it really needs to add something. This thing was just worse value for no perceivable gain.
Basically no one would be missing out on anything if they simply didn't launch at all, even if prices drop all the way to 7xxx levels.
I have a 13700k, i'd happily swap it out for a 9700x. Not terrible product at all, in fact they are good. But many justifiably feel it was a pointless launch given the market it came into.
Anyway just providing a perspective, I have no skin in this. If I'm wrong for anyone's use case then good, I want more good products out there.
Very few are upgrading every gen, even if they were they can just sell their old cpu for probably 2/3rd of its value so the per year cost isn't that outrageous.
serious question…what does intel do now to even get close to this?
this thing is cool, uses 75W gaming and is significantly faster than anything else Intel has to offer in gaming regardless of price.
They cover their eyes and concentrate on the datacentre and government market where they still dominate.
They aren't dominating in datacentre. Sales, maybe. Performance, no lol.
AMD overtook Intel in the datacentre this year too.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/for-the-firs…
There was rumors of Intel copying the 3d cache idea at some point.
Really, that is their only option if they want to compete after this current generation, which is a flop for gaming.
i had to buy a new CPU because my inter 13 gen crap keeps crashing and there is no return now, even though all the faults are known, wont buy intel again
yearn for govt handouts and hope smth comes of it
Waiting for 9900x or 9950x discount… :(
What are the chances this will push the 7xxx series down in price?
high, if stock doesn't run out
Zero. 7800x3d went up in price lol
Besides Black Friday probably nothing signifigant.
There is already a supply shortage due to everyone abandoning Intel and that will continue since it will still be popular at the price point.
The shortage will improve now that there is a new king.
Still waiting on 9950x3d.
If it DOES indeed come with dual X3D CCDs, I’m buying it then and there, lest the data centers end up buying it.Last gen, the engineering samples that had 2 ccds performed worse than 1 ccd, which is why they went with only one 3d cached chip instead of 2 on the 7950x3d.
But, with 2 ccds you have a more future proof cpu, and they may have fixed the performance loss issue. Maybe putting the cache underneath has helped with that as well, as there has been quite an uplift in some productivity apps, with the minor cpu frequency bump definitely not substantiating that its just that.
They did, looks like. New V-Cache chip is UNDER the CCD, meaning less heat, which means higher clocks and even an UNLOCKED multiplier.
Now we will ACTUALLY get the best of both worlds soon.
I'm puzzled. Wouldn't the 9900X @ $647 be a better deal?
Not for gaming wise.
How big a difference really? I have no idea
Reviewers are gushing over it right now. It's not hard to look up a review or two
Check out gamers nexus' 9800x3d review on youtube, lots of benchmarks there
I think toms's hardware review title sums it up well. Devastating Gaming Performance.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-…
Is this a gaming cpu
It's the GOAT of gaming…
damn computer parts - I ve had rotten luck with 13th gen intel since I bought it last year, PC keeps crashing - managed to patch it up with all the BIOS updates but last night it mega crashed while I was on match point and wining in r6 - by the time I restarted and returned, the game was over and I got banned for leaving early :)
anyway, long story short - took this as a sign when I saw Nebula 4070TI and this chip sale and bit the bullet even though i sOOOO desperately wanted to wait till new GPUs are out in JAN….ah well, it finally found me at a weak point
I had a 13700k which was crashing and degrading over time, Intel fought hard - but I eventually got a refund for CPU/mobo under ACL via the retailer and bought a 7800x3d + am5 board. Intel really needs to sort out their shit, happy to be back on team red with thermals being so much easier to manage.
Who did you buy through ? I got it from computer alliance and they haven't been helping at all
PCCG
What, they didn't replace your CPU? I bought my 14700K from Scorptec, and my CPU got replace with no problem, even I've recorded some crash videos , they didn't even check it.
@yeb123: they said i need to send the cpu back so they can test it, I dont have a spare CPU so havent been able to, I will do so now that I get my new one
always wondered what they will test but as crashes are random and can happen weeks apart
Better value for money using a 7800X3D and putting the saving to a better GPU.
Only if you can still find a good source for a 7800x3d with a reasonable price, which is pretty hard as the stock has dried up and the price has increased so much.
True.
25% more performance for 25% more dollars. It comes down to what you want to do with it and how long you want to wait for it to do it….
Genuinely curious, which task/game are you referring to with 25% more performance?
By some image somewhere saying it had 25% more. I didn't read anything more. I got a 7800X3D about two months ago so the image piqued my interest. That said, your question is making me doubt my memory about that number!
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So how does this work? Is stock limited at the start, price goes up steadily, then the market gets flooded with units and the price goes down? Or is this the cheapest it'll ever be kinda like a 4090 on release?