Lots of posts about phones that no longer work because of carrier bans. But which do and on which carrier? Update the list please.
Mobiles That Still Work
Lcornucopia on 31/10/2024 - 11:10
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Much easier to point to this artical that lists them all by carrier
https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/News/4G-phones-st…
But in short on the most popular brands:
Any iPhone pre-iphone 6
Any Samsung Galaxy pre-S7
Any Google Pixel pre-Pix 3
yep my 3GS may have to be retired now……
Xiaomi POCO X3 NFC not working :(
Same here. It works except for emergency calls according to Optus. So it had to go.
I did buy a Samsung A15 a couple of months back just in case. I hate changing phones
Redmi Note 10 Pro still works on Amaysim (Optus) but not Woolworths (Telstra). All might change this monday.
Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus. OK on Telstra and Optus.
Oppo Reno 11 F 5G on Amaysim
You should probably limit it to grey market 4G phones that still work, otherwise it's going to be a very long list.
2 tin cans and a piece of tought string still working with no carrier
Homing pigeon still working with no carrier
Two way radio still working with no carrier
Smoke signals still working with no carrier but limited by strong winds
morse code still working with no carrier
My Mobira Senator still works but no carrier support DAYM
Thanks. Was wondering whether my tin cans needed to go into recycling.
Or take them in to get your 20 cents.
Ahh, my ones are tin. I have used aluminium ones in the past but found the edges to be too sharp.
I am trying a novel new method involving pen, paper, envelop and a stamp. Will advise when it arrives as to how good this is.
One of those is still subject to heavy-handed government control! Total fire bans mean that I can't chat with my neighbour over the hill!!!! It's important stuff too, my neighbour over the other side lost his house because I couldn't warn him of the approaching bush fire (that I started when signalling Auntie Joan, but that's irrelevant).
Wait what, carrier bans? I thought having a newish phone that supported 4G/5G was fine?
Edit: Mum's got a Redmi 5 (grey market import I think). Is it safe from the carrier bans?
Almost definitely not safe.
She must have been getting warning notifications for months though.Any phone that can't make calls over 4G, or cannot make 000 calls over 4G will be carrier banned
Working: Realme C3 on Telstra and Optus network. Not modded, stock firmware and 4G profiles.
Blocked: Huawei Mate 10 Global ROM and suitable mbn profiles for 4G LTE Telstra and Optus / Voda loaded. Dead duck on Telstra & Optus.
(Mate10) 3G carrier profiles / network mode select were disabled or deleted, exclusively in 4G LTE mode and confirmed operating correctly, network analysis logs for 2 weeks confirmed (and phone was working no trouble on 4G LTE). Bricked anyway across Telstra and Optus due to the bans (presumably) occurring on IMEI-TAC.
2x separate MVNO tech support have said there is no blocking happening, the device should be ok 4G LTE because only 3G turned off, contact manufacturer to fix. Not surprised they are unaware and just kept referring to the original 3G shutdown given how late and uncompromising was the late change (and then how bluntly and broadly it was implemented by the MNOs).
I don't think operators will be "cleaning" or updating their whitelist soon. If your IMEI is not there already then it will stay like this for months until a big wave of complains surfaces and reaches the mainstream media.
Are you aware of any body succeeded to edit their IMEI on a Xiaomi snapdragon recently? All the videos I've seen are old and many reported it didn't work for them.
Bricked anyway across Telstra and Optus due to the bans (presumably) occurring on IMEI-TAC.
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(and then how bluntly and broadly it was implemented by the MNOs).
If you see this, you'll see that a cellular 'dongle' was expected to be blacklisted, under the AMTA checker.
However, from a later comment, that 'dongle' is expected to be whitelisted under the Telstra checker.So, this has become a mess,…and I'm quite a forgiving techie.
Own 5G phone got blocking warnings all year, which I ignored, knowing the capabilities of my phone,
until a few days ago, the warning became a "we checked again, your phone is OK".However, parents' phones are completely 'useless' in AU now, even though they are perfectly capable phones (Xiaomi),
but I simply did not know the reasons of the 000 3G fallback criteria until this week.
We had to spend $$$ to get some phones yesterday :-\Yah, my 4G USB dongle is a likely unusual case. It's a Qualcomm chipset that was designed and typically used in cheap smart phones. Bought because it is a great device for repurpose as a ComputeStick, instead of just a plain old modem WiFi. That aside, in context here it latches to network and identifies as a type of Mobile-handset (because typically that's what this chip does).
So, from a carrier perspective this usb is a mobile handset based on the TAC and they would need to deal with it accordingly. Except, it it is such an old, cheap never seen in Aus config that the TAC is likely not well known to warrant a decision as block / permit, it will land in the wtf is this unknown category. Poor tech support guy from 1 MVNO was like, uggh, what is this thing?
My warnings for my entirely compatible normal phone went from months of "may not work" (and I took steps to ensure it did, and prepared verified backup plans) until Friday when the messages became "oh sht, we're going to block your device."
My warnings went from may not work (and I took steps to ensure it did and prepare backup plans) until Friday when it became of by the way, we're going to block your device.
My Poco F5 5G received warnings of we will block you,…to this week:
Further testing has shown, to keep calm & carry on.If I had followed the warnings, from most of this year, I would have spent more money and already bought a new phone,
considering I paid about $600 for this F5 only 9 months ago.
Can confirm Ham Radio and husbands in garages still working 💪
husbands in garages
Wait a minute
ssshhh, they are still working ;p
All men need a shed, somewhere to sit quietly and ham our radios.
I think it may take months to actually get confirmation of what still works if you're just looking at whether it's able to make calls rather than using their service to check it.
Optus has begun shutting down its network on Monday, but they say it'll take a couple of months for them to complete it — so some may appear to work now but will stop in the coming months.
Maybe a better poll would be which ones aren't already working.
How is this a clown reply? He's pointing out valid information.
When you’re a clown nobody takes you seriously
🤡
Is this to help people buying from the inevitable flood of second hand phones?
If that's the intent of the thread, it would probably be worth limiting the scope to more recent phones.
agree.
I have a Samsung A8 2018 which does not have VoLTE, on Telstra network, and as of 30/10 8pm it was still reverting to 3G for incoming and outgoing calls (albeit with a nag telling me I was incapacitated as of 28/10!)Given the 3G networks are still closing down, that is perhaps not a surprise.
Check again in a few more days.
My 5G Oppo from Officeworks is still good.
Pixel 7 on belong working a treat
iPhone 16 Pro Max 1Tb works
Damn, knew I shouldn't have got the 512Gb model
Flex post
What color?
Xiaomi RedMi 12 works on Sloptus (no Telstra, unknown Vomitfone)
Redmi Note 9 and 10 (Work on Sloptus. Dead on Telstra)
Pixel 7 Pro (works all)
Pixel 6 Pro (works all)
Motorola G54 (works Telstra. Others untested)
Hisense A5C (Works on Telstra, but for how long?)
iPhones 12 to 14 (works on all)
Nokia 1040 (not working, sadly)Omg! Why do I have so many phones laying around at home… I still have about another 5 or 6 untested (a few older Pixel phones, One Plus phones… yikes!
Haven't got an ms paint for you, nor good news: my temporary lifeboat on Optus got sunk overnight. Phone (Mate10 config with exclusively 4G LTE carrier profiles) was fully functioning calls, message, data yesterday. Wake up to dead duck this morning. So I suspect similar future may be ahead of you (hopefully you have luck otherwise).
PS wrt testing: you may find it working and looks good… but then find a few hours or days later the service is blocked to that device.
This is what I am banking on happening to the A5C and the RedMi 12. I have a gut feeling that while it is working and making calls now, in the weekly round up and incoming ban hammer, they’re going to be banned eventually.
The only one I’m pissed about is the daughters RedMi 12 that was bought in Aus from a Tesltra reseller (JB HiFi) and that they are still selling these phones.
And I’m afraid to put a sim into too many of my phones as it will log a call attempt and give them an IMEI to block and even if some of this gets rolled back (indiscriminately banning of working 4G phones) don’t think they are ever going to unban these handsets.
yah, so many dimensions of shirt-sho in this transition. It was going to have some bumps and impacts around the place but this very very late-stage service denial block (meant to be per device capability) with literally days notice for Telcos to comply has resulted in them banning broadly by device TAC and unnecessarily and abruptly banning otherwise fully compliant devices (and those that are no longer fully compliant with the recent E000 condition but had been ok for the transition until early Sept 2024).
I don't believe they are blocking / denying service per individual device IMEI (as in say for stolen / cloned phones) or just using the TAC portion of the IMEI to block entire device cohorts (it is more likely this approach). Which means trying each of your phones won't necessarily see that specific unique device logged and added to a ban-list as a unique individual entry, but rather it is just identified as being a member of a blocked group of devices based on the TAC.
this very very late-stage service denial block
Although, I have been quite inconvenienced by all this, I'm still kind of "thankful" this happened this month, because if the 3G blockage was at the end of November or even December,
then, it would have been a bigger mess to deal with due to timing in life and other circumstances, … as we were heading into the festive end of the year.@whyisave: Yah I acknowledge that. Problem for people travelling in regional or remote areas though, that had already made all the necessary checks, plans etc. Then it's like "oh hai, you've got 2 days over the weekend to deal with this new surprise 😵💫 and we will entirely block all services to your phone".
Good question.
Why do you have so many phones?
I tend to buy higher end phones. When they become obsolete, I buy a new one and give the old one away. No real point having more than 1 back up phone- more phones to go obsolete.
Why do you have so many phones?
I also have a similar number of phones as @pegaxs :-)
Poco F5 5G, Redmi Note 10 & Note 11, Poco X3, Samsung S10 and S21 5G, Motorola G5 Plus, Nokia Lumia, etc.
They all have various purposes, eg. for travel, parents', testing, hand me down, ex-phone-not-thrown-away, etc.
Xiaomi mi 9t on Coles mobile not working
Telstra Touchfone TF400 still works
Bit late to be thinkin about it now isnt it?
The number to call to test it has been posted more then MSPaint requests…
To be fair the older I get the less requests I get.
In theory, all phones that are now being sold in big retailers like JB Hi-Fi, Officeworks, The Good Guys, Harvey Norman etc. …
All phones that are being sold by telco companies …
To be sure, just test it straight away in store. Otherwise refund and buy a different supported phone.
I have OnePlus Nord CE3 Lite 5G and no problem with all 3 telco network. Also Moto G54 from Amaysim (Optus network), no problem with Boost Mobile (Telstra) too.
OP, which phone do you have and any brand preferences? If you have Samsung smartwatch (need ECG?) or smart tag, just stick with Samsung phone then as they can only be used with Samsung phone in theory. Same with Apple.
Lots of posts about phones that no longer work because of carrier bans.
Storm in a teacup….. Lots of post, not many people impacted.
Still working
iPhone 6 - Amaysim
iPhone SE 1st gen - Optus
iPhone SE 3rd gen - Boost
iPhone 12 mini - TelstraHell yeah, I have a 2016 se and would love to get it back up and running.
My ancient HTC One no longer connects on Telstra. At least it's still useful for covertly messing with TVs.
TCL 503-working A-OK with Boost, amaysim and Vodafone after TCL pushed through a 20MB OTA update to address the 3G shutdown on Sunday.
jeez, that is a genuinely great outcome to see for a cheap phone. Really happy for you and all others with that phone! Hopefully the TAC for that device cohort is placed on a whitelist or kept of the blocklist depending how each Telco is implementing compliance with the E000 device-blocking requirements!.
Xiaomi redmi note 5 pro - ok on catch connect.
Oops spoke too soon. Not working from today.
Don't junk it away just yet, check your IMEI for a chance to win the TAC lottery…
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15868438/redirThanks, just checked not on list
iPhone 6S going strong! Though 3G was very useful
Moto g31 working
Moto g84 working
Pixel 6a working
Pixel 7p workingAll on Optus network. Al purchased outright.
I've seen some sellers on Ali inform people of the potential that services may not work but dam this is cut throat.
Poor bastards that purchased Xiaomi handset through JB and have it not work.
Any one knows if Oppo Reno12 work?
Troll post as OP has not said what phone they have and just wants people to reply.
wtf isn't it just phones that were only using 3g, not like any phone with just 3g will still be physically working anyway
Nope. Definitely nope. If it was 3G only devices, and not a deliberate direction from 24 Oct 2024 to block, then a lot of 4G and 5G LTE devices would continue to be functioning just fine. The Comms Minister and ACMA rushed a *somewhat unrelated matter into the long planned 3G shutdown and required Telcos to deliberately block certain devices. Telcos, having only a few days or maybe weeks, have just layed waste to entire groups of devices in order to comply.
It was such late notice, so ridiculous, and so poorly planned and communicated, that I've had literal debates with mobile tech support from some (like amaysim, more mobile) where they are specifically and categorically saying there is no blocking occurring and it is only turn off 3G bands. Then being "err, maybe we need to check" when I convince them to check the tech specs for my device, the wide number of supported bands, the network logs to confirm 4G LTE only sessions for my device to tower (acknowledging they can't usually do that, because it occurs at carrier level) and then to lookup the Telco and ACMA pages from less than 1 week ago.
Telcos have been required to ensure E000 compliance from day dot. (But that has been poorly enforced to date and arguably still is, plenty of handsets in the market that are hardware incapable of transmitting/reviving on other carriers networks -and therefore incapable of 000 calls in those areas)
Comms minister stepped in because they haven't been doing enough.Having said that, my personal opinion is that the Comms minister should have;
1) required carriers to open their VoLTE netwirks to at least one standard setting, thereby ensuring maximum compatibility.
2) extended the 3G shitdown for at least another 12 months following this decision.Both telcos and government are to blame here.
Yah, acknowledged and 100% agreed. The E000 also applied to device importers for it to be legally operated here; problem being individuals didn't know those and comply and then Telcos generally kept stuff working with 3G CSF (thankyou, International and industry standards). In principle I don't disagree with the need to take action on E000 LTE roam compliance but, also that the non standard and in some cases closed VoLTE matter (looking at you Telstra) should have been dealt with first. Then it should have been long communicated to end users after allowing the network techs at the Telcos enough time to develop and implement some more nuanced deeper checks on device capability to achieve E000 LTE roam (and probably some active field tests to confirm call proceed because of some issues with activate but hanging calls.
shitdown
Not sure if that was a typo. Works either way.
@McFly: Originally it was, but since I made that typo months ago, I've stuck with it because it is entirely descriptive.
jesus what a shitshow.
Thankfully it is not misery and mayhem for everyone. It is foolishly more mayhem than it actually needed to be. They did need to deal with the number of devices that can't E000 LTE roam, I do recognise and accept that, but they didn't need and shouldn't have done it this way. I mean, literally could have started with some form of standardising or establishing a successor to 3G Carrier switch fallback (kinda hard, should be industry led at a global set of mobile network operator + manufacturer forum level, wasn't; or sent 4 sms per day and robot calls every 2 days for several weeks to highlight the issues caused by lack of LTE voice standards and all the exotic phones brought into Aus, along with the underlying issues with the chain of devices and tech involved in a robust E000 framework.
My Mi9 SE still working - Kogan & Amaysim, despite daily warning via sms and email (that my phone will not work from 28 Oct 24).
Xiaomi MI11 was working with Amaysim
Xiaomi MI14 was working with Amaysim except internet
When I called customer care, told them same SIM was working on one mobile not on the other, they said they'll get back to me
A day later they blocked both phones and said the phones were never working
I'm like I literally called Amaysim from the mobile using 567 yesterday and now you're telling me it didn'tBoth phones continue to work with Telstra (I'm even getting 5G).
Is there something I could do in this regard?
Xiaomi Mix 2 Optus no, Telstra yes
IQOO z9 turbo both Optus and Telstra yesOppo Find X5 from Hong Kong - good on Amaysim
POCO X5 Pro - catch
POCO X6 Pro - koganPoco x5 woolies (telstra) no, dodo(optus) yes.
This whole thing is such a mess
It's ridiculous. The 3G shutdown message was loud and clear. They just forgot about the bit saying 'oh, and we're going to block random (to the average non-technical user) phones - we're not really sure which ones, maybe some will be blocked that shouldn't and maybe some won't be blocked that should, oh and maybe we'll make a few mistakes in that regard. Sorry.'
But look, we have some great deals on new phones…
Pixel 3 works
Merged from It's Nov 1 and my phone is still working
I got multiple texts and calls from Optus saying that my phone would not be supported after Oct 31 and that I need to get a new phone. Is it just the emergency 000 number that stops working?
If you got this text message there's a chance that your phone might get blacklisted on Optus and your service might get cut off. When that happens, you won't even be able to make normal calls or use internet — you'll see 0 bars on your signal meter.
Optus is also legally required to prevent mobile phones that cannot call Triple Zero (000) from accessing the Optus mobile network from 28 October 2024.
https://www.optus.com.au/support/mobiles-tablets-wearables/i….
Yeah, I texted "3" to the 3498 number and it said my phone is impacted and I will need a new phone to stay connected. But it's still working fine.
It seems they're banning devices by region… It even seems that 3G is still operational in areas.
If you've been getting messages, it's almost guaranteed that your phone will be blocked in the near future.@ESEMCE: I can't imagine some of the possible and newly unexpected mayhem occurring within industrial applications, where a comms device is installed and presenting to the network carrier with a phone / mobile-handset TAC but is actually just a data comms device. Where I previously worked sometimes these things gave voice status info after you punched a pad-number to get specific data. Based on what I've seen with one of my own devices, they aren't yet all banning every single unknown device that reports in as a 'mobile-handset' by its TAC. I suspect it probably gets shovelled off for a review based on how many of them are landing on the network. The lists must be thousands, possibly 10s thousands long.
My Sharp Aquos S3 got blocked (Amaysim) this morning after taking out the sim to try in another phone then putting it back in.
So I would suggest don't even turn it off.
When 2G was shutdown it still worked until late afternoon.
Which device do you have?
Oppo 12 5G fine
Honor Magic Pro 5 working as single SIM with Telstra as per this morning. However when Optus sim card inserted as 2nd sim card, phone can't access BOTH Optus and Telstra. Somehow Optus sim card impacting other channel too. Strange!
Phone is fine.
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 5G Global Version. OK on Telstra and Optus.