Someone sent us an email about this laptop from JB Hi-Fi, appearing to be the same model as this deal from last week but at lower price. Delivery only from $9.99. Here's the spec:
I thought Zen 5 laptops have just been released and they are already on discount cycle.
Can you share the link of white color available elsewhere? Couldn't find any. I loved the White Carbon Fiber Editions previously but white color never came again after that in Au.
Sorry my bad, I mixed up with ASUS Zenbook S 16 (UM5606)… I am looking for this model in white.
Is this a normal x86 processor or an arm one. I ve heard too many arm issue with window legacy apps.
x86
x86
x86
snapdragon is only Arm based i reckon
Darude - Sandstorm
How do you price beat at OW? Is it via phone call and you get the discounted url/link?
Pretty sure it's call as it's case by case and needs to be a publicly accessible price. Then they send you and offer i believe.
As far as I know, price beat is in store only. You can call them to reserve stock for you and confirm that you can indeed price beat it before doing the purchase in-store. This is what I did when I bought my phone.
call them, they will PB and manually process the purchase. If not in store stock they will deliver to store for collection.
I did this with a coffee machine. was very easy and they were very helpful.
Called OW this morning, could do over the phone, but the deal is not live on JB website anymore, they are not honouring it.
Ordered from JB tonight but will call them tomorrow morning if offer is still live.
Works out $40 in Flybuys too with OnePass membership.
I think this has the 880m. Anyone know if there is much difference to the 890m?
Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmc-1FiARR8
its 3fps difference
wtf thats insane 3fps and its not even the flagship
whats the hx 890m missing that makes it diminishing returns. theres enough ram, maybe cooling?
Memory bandwidth, it’s not fast enough to feed the gpu
Comparing laptop GPUs is tricky. The cooling design and power configuration will make a huge difference for the same card from laptop to laptop.
I have the 8845hs version with gtx 3050 version of this, it's really good.
I would trade the gtx 3050 with new CPU and longer battery life.
This one has significantly worse battery life than the 8845hs model.
Why
Every AMD generation since zen3+, we've lost about 20% battery. No idea how they keep screwing it up.
Check runtime testing on the Yoga 14 Pro. Identical battery and screen.
780 mins ("7735hs" / 6900hs) -> 620 mins (7840hs) -> 520 mins (AI 9 365).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113860872771747890/1…
@HPdeskjet: https://youtu.be/AVwS3A5D4oc?t=600
I timestamped the battery section of this video with 7840HS, 8845HS, AI 9 365, all Yoga 7s with the same battery size and the results show otherwise?
All of them were also tested together recently which means all of them would be running the same version of windows and the same version of software + the screens were brightness calibrated and running in the same performance mode.
I'd like to hear why you think the results in the video are invalid
Edit: you can't even hide your bias; you correctly rounded 7735hs (from 783 to 780) and 7840hs (from 618 to 620), but incorrectly rounded down the AI 9 365 (from 527 to 520)
@Bacons: The 7840HS and 8845HS are zen4, both significantly worse than zen3+ for idle draw.
The 7735hs is zen3.
You can see this on Blade14, G14 etc all around, significant battery downgrade on that generation.
I also think that notebookcheck's testing metholodgy is much more controlled than HWcanucks, considering they published detailed instructions on how to replicate their results.
Ah yes, I rounded wrong by 7 minutes so I'm biased. Couldn't happen to be that I just rounded wrong.
@HPdeskjet: i think that while NBC is standardised and consistent and controlled, its perhaps not as strong an indicator of performance you would get today as the tests are done at time of review instead of back to back like HWC.
Basically you gotta ask yourself if I pulled out all 3 laptops with those chips next to each other right now, identical and current software environment, which one will have the best battery life? and that's the scenario we see portrayed in the HWC video.
@Bacons: That's fair, it could be a launch software issue or microcode issue with the specific Yoga SKU (that is patched later on in the lifecycle) that nukes the battery.
Most of the other Zen5 Laptops seems to be OK for battery on notebookcheck, it's mainly the yoga that has issues on the AI 9 365 model.
@HPdeskjet: thanks for hearing me out and showing understanding, i didnt downvote any of your comments btw
@Bacons: No all good man.
I think everything we both said was based on empirical evidence and testing.
It was actually nice to have a reasonable discussion about why the data was so different across the two sources instead of the usual flame war.
Is this a price error? Model is brand new
Nope
I do have a bit of suspicion, as these are just out in the market.
Not an error, just a fake new model from AMD:
AMD Ryzen AI 9 365 vs AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS
AMD have gotten real comfortable - and real quickly - in holding back their gains whilst Intel struggle with their entire x86 lineup
AMD's known to do this, but in the past they still hike prices for a few months with these refreshes.
Amd definitely is holding back. Why push out new tech when they're already mostly ahead?
However, this chip isn't that much newer than the 8xxx, and it has more power devoted to AI/tpus, much better graphics performance, all while using significantly less power.
Not a fake new model, this is zen 5 not a rebadged 8845hs
Which in turn is pretty much a rebadged 7840hs.
It's still RDNA 3(3.5), 6800h was RDNA 3, 7840H was RDNA 3, 8845H was RDNA 3, will wait for RDNA 4.
do you not understand that these new chips are performing about the same at half the power.
When you give it more power it performs a lot better.
you should not be upvoted
A newer 28W TDP CPU has similar performance to last gen with 45W TDP?
28W is only the default TDP for the AI 9 365
When you actually use the performance, max TDP is 54W - exactly the same as the 8845HS
At max TDP, the AI 9 365 loops Cinebench 2024 for just 6 minutes longer than the 8845HS
During those extra 6 minutes at max TDP, the AI 9 365 scores 872 on Cinebench 2024 Multi-Core vs 866 on the 8845HS
These are not generational improvements, just naming inflation from AMD slapped with an AI marketing badge
It's all about AI TOPS number these days!
Beware on this model, battery life is not the best:
The specific Slim 7 (258V) in this post has 1020 mins runtime on nbc's Web testing, quite literally double the battery of the posted Yoga 14 Pro (AI 9 365) @ 520 mins.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-Ultra-7-256V-perfor…
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Yoga-Pro-7-14-G9-review…
Copied from @HPdeskjet
Multi core performance has little bearing on battery life when browsing, AMD just has poor uncore power starting from Zen 4
Honestly the performance from Intel is unacceptable. The battery life from amd is unacceptable.
Personally I think they both missed the mark for a lot of users.
Intel really should have added HT even if it cost some battery life.
Multicore performance has no bearing on 95% of laptop users, single core and battery life is much more important, Apple had the right idea with the M series chips
I think these are just different products fitting different needs.
next youll be telling me a nissan leaf has better fuel efficiency than a range rover
Which is why for 80% of people the leaf is a much better purchase as they don't care about the advantages of a range rover?
I don't think that comparison proved the point you wanted expected!
who was specifying the 80% or 20%?
objectively they are different and not comparible
next youll be telling me 80% of people prefer orange juice over apple juice, therefore the comparisons are irrelevant too?
Not too many sales at the moment leading into Christmas with the economy tanking.
Also it’s 14” , so not the most popular size either.
Don’t believe it’s a price error but might be limited stock at this price.
Edit: hang on the link is to the 15.3”
Why does it say 15.3 inches screen size in the description but 14.5 in the specs? Seems like a pricing error , still 2800 at office works
i got it price beat at office works. took them 30min to verify if it is the same model. the 15.3 inch title is really misleading.
Didn’t see that before ,
you might be right and you can always return it if you change your mind.
What do you people reckon this or Surface Laptop 7 (with student discount and price match from OW comes down to be around $1615 or so)?
Is OW price match with student discount?
I searched through prev posts here and someone said they price matched. Maybe you're right and it wasn't student discount. Without price match surface laptop 7 would be $1704 (with student discount). Still similar price to this deal I reckon
I too was looking to grab a Surface Laptop 7, it seemed to tick every box, until I had one in my hands for a test run.
And a simple thing knocked it completely out of contention.
The screen is super reflective, so much so making it harder to see what's on the screen (you see yourself). I tested it in store, and checked out numerous other laptops in exactly the same lighting conditions. The Surface laptop 7 was the worst in that regard. A pity as it was great in every other way.
Thanks for your feedback, appreciate your input. Just to confirm, battery life, trackpad, performance wise you were happy with it - it’s just the screen that made you stay away from it?
Also did you get anything else since then? Thanks!
Just wait until the Black Friday deals
Exactly we should all do that, jumping in now bet you will regret later when these laptops gonna plummet more, and if the economy getting worst, sure xmas will be even crazy cheaper prices ahead.
Would this be a good laptop for photoshop? Aunt looking for a new computer and one req is for using photoshop.
Is a PC an option?
Static elements in photoshop + oled is a bit spooky, if she uses photoshop only occasionally it’s fine tho
It'll work, the integrated GPUs are not too bad nowadays, but idealy you would want a gpu
Is anyone worried about the security on Lenovo computers with the whole Huawei thing? Or is this just overblown.
There has always been reasons to avoid Lenovo
https://time.com/3994951/furious-lenovo-laptops-software/
I clean install windows and hope for the best
Any reviews on this, it's a good deal based on specs but what's the experience that people had with it? OLED burn-in a concern? Can RAM/SSD be upgraded?
RAM shows as soldered.
Someone sent us an email
Who? 🤔
Pricing error. Chatted with Jb for a deal. They said 27xx. So the price on website is wrong. Best to get it matched with officework if u managed to do that
It's a trap, price error trap.
No it's not. I just spoke to customer support and it is $1699. Chat screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/L2OHM1H
Yeah but what if the representative doesn’t know themselves?
Just ask jb deal to give u their best price which will come to 2xxx. The guy u talked to was support who does not know shit.
I got the price error line too
my email says order confirmed
Is it touchscreen? Can't go back to a non touch laptop
No touch screen according to the Lenovo website
Is this approved by @shellshocked ?
I ordered one for delivery from JB, I'll let you know how I go.
Confirming order cancelled, no offer of anything like a discount etc.
On the plus side refund already issued.
I have a slightly older Yoga 7 with 6800u. I've been thoroughly impressed by the 680M ability to play AAA games like Diablo 4 quite well.
Is the 880m a worthy upgrade over my 680M?
You should check the temperature, it can cook egg on it own.
Good point but is 80 degrees that bad?
No fingerprint reader 😕
Hasn’t hello become a thing by now?
With passkeys I'd rather have fingerprint than face scan.
The size is perfect.. the price is perfect. But I really want the zephyrus g14 4070 due to the extra GPU power.
It's just 2k more expensive.. insane
why don't you use eGPU with cheaper laptop, unless you really want to hardcore-game-on-the-go
Nooooooooooooo, no Geforce graphic card
order placed.
Estimated delivery by 6 Nov 2024 with Australia Post.
No touch screen is a plus
Why no white color available in Australia?