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Breville Dynamic Duo BEP920BSS $1279.99 Delivered (Was $1599.99) @ Costco (Membership Required)

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Breville Dynamic Duo BEP920BSS $1279.99 Delivered (Was $1599.99) @ Costco (Membership Required)
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Flyerone on 14/10/2024 - 14:25 costco.com.au (2064 clicks)
Last edited 14/10/2024 - 14:25 by 1 other user

Dual boiler and grinder dynamic duo. Obviously not all time low and probably not even that close, but on current pricing this is a decent price on the pair.

Saw a stack of at least 15 at Marsden Park this morning.

Breville Dynamic Duo BEP920BSS
Dual Boiler heating system with control PID system with Smart Grinder Pro Auto grind and dose precision burr grinder with 60 grind settings.

This product features:

LCD screen
Dual Boiler heating system
Manual milk texturing
58 mm stainless steel portafilter
Auto grind and dose precision burr grinder with 60 settings

Electrical & Electronics Breville Coffee Machine

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  • ozbs25 on 14/10/2024 - 14:53

    They had this at Coomera QLD last time we were there. No idea on current price though.

  • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 14:56
    +1

    Good price indeed!

    My 920 just shat itself. I think can easily be fixed but will probs cost $600 again….

    Should I buy and flip the grindr…. ;)

    or maybe keep the grindr for decaf.

    • Moses on 14/10/2024 - 15:38

      we had 2 for normal + decaf. Was a quality choice.

    • Kaidra on 14/10/2024 - 17:14
      +8

      Have a go at fixing it yourself. Lots of vids on youtube. Whatcha got to lose? Mine blew an O-ring and steamed out the inside. Watched a few vids, ordered a few parts; good as new!!

      • Name on 14/10/2024 - 20:53

        Facing the same issue. Stuff keeps breaking but so far everything has been repairable with seals / o-rings/ tubes and a bit of time and watching YouTube at 1.5x. ;)

        Wanted to upgrade but can't justify when it's cheap to diy repair it.

        I was looking at doing the slayer mod when pre-infusion stopped (I think it's a solenoid issue?) but I found if pull an empty "shot" the preinfusion will start working again until I turn the machine off.

        • Naigrabzo on 15/10/2024 - 10:37
          +1

          I had similar preinfusion issue. Got better after I backwashed it with bicarb soda.

      • TightAssDrake on 14/10/2024 - 21:02

        My steamer just stopped working 1 day. Every thing else is fine.

        Would you know what the fix might be?

      • Naigrabzo on 15/10/2024 - 10:37

        WILL do my good sir.

    • JamesSavage on 15/10/2024 - 10:37
      +1

      Should I buy and flip the grindr

      I feel like someone has to point out … it’s a “tell” if your keyboard autocorrects “grinder” to that app name 😉

      • Naigrabzo on 15/10/2024 - 10:38

        No, I deliberately said grindr. HAHA. Not that there is anything wrong with it. ;)

  • sludo on 14/10/2024 - 14:58
    -3

    Id pay a couple of hundred dollars more and get a proper italian machine and grinder over these any day, better quality and easier to maintain last 10 years+ these brevilles last 36 months if you're lucky from experience, the pump always goes on them. I'm not associated with either store below just examples to help others.

    $1615 Ranbcilio Silva & Rocky Grinder

    $1449 Gaggia Classic Evo Pro & Grinder

    • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 15:03
      +2

      These are single boilers yes?

      Also, what's the maintenance cost for these? $300 per year for descale and clean etc?

      • ozlurker on 14/10/2024 - 15:08
        +2

        Maintenance should be close to 0, you should be using filtered water to prevent the need to descale.
        Maybe every 2-3 years change the seals and o-ring and diy descale, should cost 20-30.

        • heineken016 on 14/10/2024 - 15:55

          should definitely backflush a GCP (and maybe a Silvia, I don't know) every now and then. I aim for every fortnight but it's prob more like monthly

          plenty of coffee build up comes out

        • Captain Hindsight on 14/10/2024 - 15:56
          +1

          Yes, definitely worth using a water filter although important to note that not all filters are the same as I discovered with my brita, I kept replacing it with the A1000 filter which did not remove line scale, turns out I needed the P1000. Just worth noting that you get a filter that includes lime scale.

        • sAmiZZle on 14/10/2024 - 16:22
          +4

          Wow, if only it was that simple! Water is extremely complex. It'd be pretty impressive if you could simply "filter" water and get it to the perfect balancing point between corrosion and scale. This is highly dependent on your water supply T.D.S, GH/KH and chlorides.

          If you know your water details, you can use this calculator to check where you sit on the scale (no pun intended): https://techcenter.lamarzocco.com/jsp/Template4/watercalcula…

          To achieve the perfect water where no descaling is required, you have to filter the water and then reinfuse with minerals at the correct amounts for your water hardness. It's quite a fiasco and can get very expensive.

          Chances are you will have to descale.

          • bleeder on 14/10/2024 - 16:43

            @sAmiZZle: You seem to know your shit. Coffee machine repair guy told me last time that I should boil water and let it cool and use that in my machine. Is that legit?

            I've been putting filtered water in my kettle every morning, boiling it, then the next day using that in my machine. No idea whether it's a waste of time and effort.

            • Eldeng20 on 14/10/2024 - 20:05

              @bleeder: That seems like a lot and pretty energy intensive. Filtered water would be fine.

            • TheBean on 15/10/2024 - 01:26

              @bleeder: my understanding is that boiling helps with chlorine, but chlorine will dissapate a bit anyway. I use my cooled kettle water when it's there since my wife drinks tea, but it's not somehting I would exclusively use.

            • swhitmore on 15/10/2024 - 11:55

              @bleeder: I'm no chemist, but if highschool tought me anything it's that boiling the water first would have the opposite effect. Boiling would make the water harder, not softer.

            • Naigrabzo on 16/10/2024 - 11:35

              @bleeder: In theory this could remove some of the scale (it will deposit on your kettle) and definitely remove/degas chorine.

              Many dissolved gases will degas but will redissolve once cooled ie CO2.

              Not sure what else will happen with boiling.

              To remove all minerals you will need to use a RO filter or dimeralised water and reconstitute using a variety of receipes online.

              • bleeder on 16/10/2024 - 12:40

                @Naigrabzo: @Naigrabzo thank you. RO might be worth it for me as the water is very hard where I live. Is the remineralisation process expensive, are you buying salts all the time or something? I've seen these things marketed on YouTube and they don't look cheap, but I guess it might be cheaper if you DIY.

        • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 17:06

          Dude, I use demineralised water and remineralise it. Changing O-ring sounds like a $160 call out and $300 job for the coffee expert fellow.

      • DeToxin on 14/10/2024 - 15:09
        +6

        Single boiler yes.

        I don't really know why people keep bringing up the GCP when dual boiler sales come up, they're entirely different machines with different target audiences.

        The GCP however can be maintained fairly easily for next to nothing if you have the time to descale.

        There are other things that will come up which are much more difficult to fix:
        1. Blocked 3-way solenoid, if the old on/off repetition doesn't clear it, you're looking at pulling the boiler out to get to it, which is a PITA.
        2. There's a 90% chance your steam wand valve will get damaged in the first year or two, even if you're careful when closing it. That can't be repaired (unless you modify it), and a replacement at cost will set you back ~$70

        • sAmiZZle on 14/10/2024 - 16:26
          +3

          More people need to see this comment. I'm a former GCP owner and couldn't agree more. For me I had the blocked solenoid due to corrosion and pitted boiler which needed replacement. Cheap alloy boilers arent great long term and tbh the newer version with Gaggia's version of Teflon coating is really not a good idea if you care about your health. It's a highly capable machine if you're willing to put in the effort, but I wouldn't advise on it for the above reasons. Also, it's a single boiler so can't be compared to the BDB.

          • Robot16 on 14/10/2024 - 16:56

            @sAmiZZle: Interesting to read. I am almost a year into having my Gaggia from the Costco sale.

            • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 17:07

              @Robot16: How much?

            • sAmiZZle on 14/10/2024 - 17:27
              +1

              @Robot16: It's a good little machine that performs very well in what it can produce in the cup and it has a strong community, but I don't think they are open enough about these kinds of downsides/issues. After all, theres a reason why it can be sold at that price point.

              More expensive machines will use better quality build materials, stainless steel or copper boilers. They never feel like they are "worth" it but that's the price you have to pay for better quality parts.

              And even then, you may still have the odd issue. I'm on a Lelit Bianca V3 now and that's had a leaking vaccum breaker within the first year (easy fix under warranty).

              My only concern with the Gaggia would be how much of the aluminium from the boiler I was digesting in my coffee over the 3 years I had it. I live in Melbourne and the water is very corrosive (extremely soft water with hardly any minerals in it). So as I found out, an alloy boiler is not the greatest for where I live. Unfortunately the only way to know is to take out the boiler and look inside which requires a replacement gasket.

              • DeToxin on 14/10/2024 - 19:16
                +4

                @sAmiZZle: For anyone wondering, this is the inside of my 2019 GCP after just under 2yrs use (about 4 rounds of descaling).

                https://imgur.com/a/SU6k3NA

                Fwiw I have put it back together and kept using it. If the upcoming brass boiler is certified lead free I'll be buying that to install and will probably have the machine for another decade.

                Having said that I've done a few mods and if I was in the market for plug and play I would definitely go for the BDB

                • sAmiZZle on 14/10/2024 - 20:52

                  @DeToxin: Thank you for sharing

                • Naigrabzo on 15/10/2024 - 12:15

                  @DeToxin: What's happened? is that just the usual gunky buildup or scale???

                  • DeToxin on 17/10/2024 - 20:12

                    @Naigrabzo: Just scale buildup.

                    Having said that I did use Cafetto descaling solution when Gaggia recommends their own descale solution - the Cafetto is advertised as safe for aluminium boilers, but any descaling agent will be corrosive for alloys so I'm not sure what difference it would make using the Gaggia stuff.

                    • Naigrabzo on 18/10/2024 - 11:21

                      @DeToxin: yeah true. Most descalers are using citric acid or equivalent I think. Any water with low pH will probably dissolve the aluminium. Not sure what happens when you ingest it though.

              • Robot16 on 16/10/2024 - 20:43

                @sAmiZZle: Thanks for the info mate! It is good to know. I need to have a geez of the boiler.

                How are you finding the Lelit?

                • sAmiZZle on 16/10/2024 - 21:51

                  @Robot16: You're more than welcome. I was tossing up between the ECM Synchronika and the Lelit. I think the price difference at the time equated to about 1K to add the flow control to the ECM. BUt even then the Bianca packed a lot of tech into it that its competitors didn't have and it was at a better price point as well (perhaps at the sacrifice of some very minor finishing details and build quality that it's German competitors do have). I think it is great for someone who wants to be more hands on, i.e. pre-infusion, flow rate, etc, without going all the way into automated flow profiling where the machine does all the work (ala Decent). It let's you do some basic automation of low flow and pre-infusion, but I don't use it because I like using the paddle. It's nice to have the ability to adjust the flow to suit how the shot is developing as well. It's also a much smaller footprint on the bench than the ECM (even smaller again if you plumb it because the water tank can come off). Don't get me wrong, the Gaggia produced great coffee as well but I found I had to fight for it and jump through more hurdles with temp surfing, etc. Having the ability to know what your temps are and flow control without having to divert water out the steam wand just make the process a lot more enjoyable for me.

                  • SickDmith on 17/10/2024 - 20:24

                    @sAmiZZle:

                    I was tossing up between the ECM Synchronika and the Lelit.

                    In case you missed it Breville acquired Lelit in 2022. But haven't touched supply chains until last year.
                    I don't think there is any other change so far. Good machines.
                    People are expecting better parts availability for Lelit now.

                    • sAmiZZle on 17/10/2024 - 22:48

                      @SickDmith: Yup I purchased my machine just prior to the acquisition. Lelit seem to be operating independently to some degree. Warranty tussles between Breville and Lelit arms of the company have ensued. But I'm sure they'll sort things out… eventually.

      • sludo on 14/10/2024 - 15:19

        maintenance is like $50 a year if that

        • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 16:51
          +2

          yeah? I took it to the shop and it was $160 for them to look at it and in the end $600. If an electrician farts they will charge $100. $150 for call out.

      • bananafish05 on 14/10/2024 - 15:48
        +5

        Had the GCP for 3ish years and the solenoid blocked twice. The first time I was fairly slack with descaling so that's on me. The second, I descaled every 6 weeks or so and it still blocked. I swapped to the dual boiler (not too long ago mind you) and having the ability to reliably control temp, really fast heat up times, and obviously a dual boiler is such a massive win. Given I got the GCP for $600 new vs $800 for the BDB second hand (with 4 months warranty left) and so far have nothing but positive to say.

      • jaypow on 16/10/2024 - 08:03

        I have only ever used tapwater in my dual boiler on QLD Sunshine Coast. I’m sure I read in the instruction booklet not to use filtered water. No idea why that was.

    • DeToxin on 14/10/2024 - 15:03
      +7

      Absolutely do not pay that kind of money for the GCP, especially the "Evo" model which has confirmed problems with the coating used in the boiler (flaking off), I think the coating might also be PFAS materials too.

      This is coming from someone who owns a GCP. Unless you're willing to modify it, there are much better deals.

      Even if you do want a GCP, get the non-evo model when it's on sale for <~$700 and buy a grinder separately.

      • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 17:07
        -7

        Dude PFAS is everywhere though. Can't escape em.

        • OzzyBrak on 14/10/2024 - 18:47
          +1

          That’s like saying sugar is in everything, can’t escape it while dumping teaspoons worth into your coffee. You can certainly take steps to reduce your PFAS intake.

        • DeToxin on 14/10/2024 - 20:11
          +2

          You might not escape them but that doesn't mean you should knowingly ingest more of them from a known source.

          That kind of attitude is reductive and doesn't help anyone.

    • Vent89 on 14/10/2024 - 15:06
      +7

      The Breville had a recent update to compression fittings on its boilers significantly improving its reliability (most common failure point). https://coffeesnobs.com.au/forum/equipment/brewing-equipment…

      Also dual boiler italian machines will cost upawards of $2.5k

    • ToonarmY on 14/10/2024 - 15:08
      +1

      Use water that won't bugger the machine and it will last ages.

      They replaced the O rings with compression fittings a few years ago so that fixed a number of issues

    • iMagoo on 14/10/2024 - 15:33
      +8

      I think this advice used to be more valid than it is today. The upgrades to Breville's compression fittings were massive. This is a lot more machine for the money. My Silvia is still going strong after 8 years, but I'm moving to a BDB because the Silvia is just too basic. It still doesn't have a PID on the base model, which is ridiculous these days when electronics are so cheap.

      • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 17:02
        -2

        PID will cost about $1 especially when bought bulk. Including implementation it will cost about $5 per machine.

    • bAps on 14/10/2024 - 15:40
      +5

      Those are both single boiler machines though, so a completely different class.
      The Breville Dual Boiler is insane value for money.

    • willyroo on 14/10/2024 - 16:14
      +8

      I'll see your n=1 with my n=1…

      I'm at 4,200 shots on my BES920 - probably half those are through the portafilter. Recently did the full seals replacement, inner shower screen and steam wand service. If you're handy this kit has all the parts you need to keep a dual boiler going for a long time.

      And I've had a lot of very good coffee over many years :)

      • Naigrabzo on 14/10/2024 - 17:03

        DAMN SON! Thanks for that.

        • Ayanami on 14/10/2024 - 21:39

          11,200 shots here, never replaced anything. Have the replacement o-rings but am reticent to change when they’re still going strong after ~7.5 years.

          • DeToxin on 14/10/2024 - 23:59
            +1

            @Ayanami: I'm not sure what the orings in the BDB are like but I'm willing to bet that after 7.5yrs they're not too far off the Tobey Maguire spiderman/underpants meme level and you should probably replace them

            Edit: https://imgflip.com/i/96mua2

          • Naigrabzo on 15/10/2024 - 09:14

            @Ayanami: Lucky duck!

        • willyroo on 15/10/2024 - 08:43

          Aaahhh just checked again this morning. With my glasses on.

          Press 1 shot 2 shot buttons for 5 seconds, power, menu.

          720 not 420

          7200 shots

    • Genepi on 14/10/2024 - 17:44
      +2

      Had my Breville Barista Express since 2012 - TWELVE years - and was rock solid until this year when <gasp> I had to replace the solenoid with a new one for $99 and a screwdriver. Breville machines punch waaay above their weight especially compared with Gaggia in my experience.

      • Naigrabzo on 16/10/2024 - 11:37

        how did you diagnose the solenoid??

        • Genepi on 17/10/2024 - 09:53

          It was clearly broken and venting steam out the casing so i just opened it up and saw it was clearly busted.

    • Aguynamedlance on 14/10/2024 - 18:24
      +1

      While those machines are good, they are not in the same league as the BDB.

      Feature set for price, nothing beats the BDB in Australia.

    • Khartoum on 14/10/2024 - 18:59
      +1

      That makes no sense as those machines do not compete with the BDB which is dual boiler with shot timer PID and the works

      As i said your contribution makes no sense

    • 811b11e8 on 14/10/2024 - 23:01
      +1

      Omg the pump in the breville is an ulka made in Italy.

      Most coffee machines made in Italy use the same brand pump and some even use the same pump.

    • Bil on 15/10/2024 - 09:25

      I have a Barista Express, that will soon be 6years old. It is used daily and has never skipped a beat. All I've done is descale on time. They are pretty robust machines in my experience. I also know a handful of people who own the same machine and have had similar experiences. I will get a dual boiler when this one breaks though. With a single boiler, the coffee round takes forever when you are entertaining.

    • vr0ssi46 on 15/10/2024 - 10:27

      Getting downvoted but the man speaks truth!

    • thrillhouse on 15/10/2024 - 20:39

      For a first timer I would never recommend a Rancilio Silvia. The Breville is a much better choice for nearly all applications.

      Source: my first machine was a Rancilio Silvia, and whilst it served me a great 6 years, you really had to think about it. As others have said, it's also only a single boiler.

      The pros to that machine are definitely build quality, and that it will really force you to think about your workflow and learn about pulling shots. Totally manual.

  • Psygnosis on 14/10/2024 - 14:58
    +6

    Have had mine for around 10 years and still going strong

    • sludo on 14/10/2024 - 14:59

      Have you ever had to replace the pump ?

      • Psygnosis on 14/10/2024 - 18:47

        No never, everything is original. Have done many shots, couldn’t even count by now. Making two to three cups each day.

        • OzzyBrak on 14/10/2024 - 18:51

          Same. BES920 10y all original. Beautiful machines.

    • Flyerone on 14/10/2024 - 15:04

      Nice. How many shots have you poured through it?

      I replaced my early one a few years ago, replaced the pump, solenoid valve and steam valve and O rings and my daughter has been using that since, I think it has done over 10,000 shots.

  • evilbamboo on 14/10/2024 - 14:58

    problem is, can the grinder be sold for $300?

    • devisticshash on 14/10/2024 - 16:52

      I've been trying to sell the same grinder and despite being in the CBD I can't sell it for $200, still on the MP with 0 views. Listed since July.

      • On1 on 14/10/2024 - 20:24

        I ll give u $150 for it if it’s bnib 👍🏼

  • ozlurker on 14/10/2024 - 15:04
    +4

    Or grab a bambino and spend the rest on a good grinder

    • Fancydancer on 14/10/2024 - 15:21

      Gone from Dual Boiler to Bambino recently, very happy. DB died sadly.

      • RtN on 14/10/2024 - 15:24
        +1

        What are some things that makes the Bambino better?

        • Fancydancer on 14/10/2024 - 15:29
          +1

          Price. It’s a basic machine that pours a great shot with PID and Pre Infusion.

    • Crowmanz on 14/10/2024 - 16:55
      +2

      My bambino plus backed up recently after being a 4 years and 1 month stepping stone. While diagnosing and then solving the problem* I was researching upgrades and there wasn't a machine out there that did what I wanted better.

      *Problem ended up being a dead leg of tubing to a steam pressure sensor, during descale the scale can get stuck in the dead leg and eventually stuff the steam wand. Pop the back, unclip at the sensor end, and back flush through the line with a syringe and bobs your father's brother.

      • Paudius on 16/10/2024 - 12:58

        Those nasty dragon scales really get stuck in places they shouldn't :)

      • OzFrugie on 20/10/2024 - 21:52

        Was your bambino plus leaking after using the steam wand?

  • punkel on 14/10/2024 - 15:18
    -6

    no deal. sub $1000 would be

    • Powershopz on 14/10/2024 - 15:33
      +3

      Living in the past. Last time this combo went sub $1,000 was back in like 2016-2018.

  • PN168 on 14/10/2024 - 15:20
    -2

    Wouldnt hurt to check out Meraki Espresso Machine which have lots of promising features and modern look.

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