One of the best mid-size SUVs out there, the Hyundai Tucson Hybrid is now $46,990 drive away saving approx $3,000.
There are savings across all of the Tucson Hybrid range including the Elite & Premium variants.
This is the brand-new facelifted version which has only just been released. Uses 5.3L/100km combined with 172kW / 367Nm.
Savings for each state plus price history can be viewed at The Beep.
@jimwh: i find it funny how every car post here turns into EV battle - let me tell you something
EV freaks spends all your time on the net TALKING about EV - here - probably on Facebook, twitter - they join all those sad EV groups.
its called MID LIFE CRISIS - I bet none of them is under 35
its a fk car, there are no EV SUV;s yet in a decent price range and for anything less I will rather own a $25 KIA because to me a drive is a drive and I prefer to spend my $$ on something that does not depreciate as much as an EV, even a normal ICE car is a depreciating asset and has always been a question of how much do you want to lose, well with EVS you lose A LOT, more then I can justify.
and i will close with YES, EVs are probably the future and they will evolve but right now they are overpriced and only convenient if you use it for a city car, the rest is a hassle
@botchie: The reverse it true!
i find it funny how every EV car post here turns into ICE battle - let me tell you something
EV hater spends all your time on the net TALKING about EV - here - probably on Facebook, twitter - they join all those sad EV groups.
its called MID LIFE CRISIS - I bet none of them is under 35
its a fk car, there is an EV SUV;s yet in a decent price range and for anything less I will rather own a $29 MG4 because to me a drive is a drive and I prefer to spend my $$ on something that does not cost as much as an ICE, even a normal ICE car is a depreciating asset and has always been a question of how much do you want to lose, well with ICE you lose A LOT, more then I can justify.
and i will close with YES, EVs are probably the future and they will evolve but right now they are overpriced and only convenient if you use it for a city car, the rest is a hassle
@jimwh: there is no reason for both ICE and EV cars can't co exist the only reason now to go to an ev is the massive savings on fuel and service cost. Not saying you shouldn't have a ICE car and I don't think there should be a battle about it either, it just makes more financial sense right now to drive an EV. But I love my ICE cars its just expensive to keep them going, at least for now. Look if I had a my own race track and 1000s of dollars to waste on fuel I would keep ICE cars for sure, they just have a thrill that you can't get complete from evs don't know if its the roar of the engine or the feel of changing gears, but ICE cars will always have a special place in my heart, and its the same for many others. Going to an EV sucks for the thrills. Look the funny thing is I have kept ice cars for 10 years by the time trade them in you get overs of 500 or a 1000 bucks for it. it wouldn't be any different if you have a 10 year old ev. all cars are usually worthless after 10 years of ownership.
@jimwh: 7-8 years pay off? an average Aussie drivers 15k km year, at the average 91 petrol, at 7L/100km, that's ~1700 year in petrol
that's 12k in 7 years
ignoring higher insurance costs (I quoted multiple cars / companies and EVs are around 30% more expensive, and getting worse with time)
two comparable cars - EV vs petrol - have a decent EV being much more expensive, usually more than that 12k difference
7 years later, you will loose much more money on resale than the ICE
again, EVs make no financial sense for the vast majority of people, downvotes dont change that
@CrazyTachikoma: but but environment? health?
one ev freak told me i will die quicker from the petrol fumes and noise pollution of ICE engine?
its a cult I swear
if you don't own an EV don't speak for EV owner
no human being has a nuclear power plant in their backward
therefore
no human being can have an opinion about nuclear power
we are reaching new levels of reasoning here
@CrazyTachikoma: The cult is happy to pay extra to become early adopters. Someone has to pay for the early adoption of a technology before it becomes better and more affordable. Your reasoning about nuclear power in the context of consumer products is astonishing.
@botchie: EVs create more particulate pollution - since they are much heavier, the wear from tires and break pads is increased
particulate pollution is much much worse for humans than freaking plant food aka CO2
@CrazyTachikoma: $1700 a year in petrol? maybe for a modern hybrid. People are generally paying a lot more then that, especially those with bigger cars like 4WD's.
Your assumption on EV's losing resale is assuming that demand for EV doesn't go up, which is will based on how many people are buying EV's.
Only petrol/diesel 4WD's and commercial vehicles are immune from price drops for the foreseeable future.
$1700 a year in petrol? maybe for a modern hybrid
7.0l / 100km was the fuel usage I used to calculate, a very reasonable / common number for NEW petrol cars, not hybrids, since we are talking about buying new, not your old 20yo junk
I'm not assuming anything, EVs massive depreciation is a global phenomenon, go read some stats / news, or even better, just go to CarSales. And it's getting worse.
"oh all cars lose value" yeah I'd rather lose 20-40% after 3 years, than 50-60%, all your petrol savings (provided you dont use public chargers) go up in smokes
@CrazyTachikoma: You are forgetting the cost of fuel and the fact that there are plenty of larger cars that use more then 7L/100km
EV's current depreciation is competition, which is completely expected and good for the consumer.
@samfisher5986: I obviously included the cost of fuel, otherwise how would you get 1700 a year?
"oh there are cars that use more than 7l/100km", have you ever heard of a concept called average? there are plenty of smaller cars that use less than 7
@CrazyTachikoma: Manufactures claimed fuel consumption aren’t achievable in real world use.They are a best case scenario, driving at optimal speeds in optimal conditions.
Not taking sides just pointing out this inaccuracy.
@Ronnnie: My car claimed fuel consumption is 8.1, I use 7.5. My previous car was 6.1, I used 5.5.
It all depends how you drive.
@CrazyTachikoma: It depends on a multitude of factors. Not just how you drive. I don't believe you consistently get better than the claimed figures…
@CrazyTachikoma: My VW is averaging 13l/km and uses premium. Damn you ICE vehicles and your reduced efficiency over time
@samfisher5986: i used to pay less when I had a diesel car, one tank of petrol lasted a month - well over 600 ks
@CrazyTachikoma: i had the Tiguan Diesel, and the golf in the past - they were the best - golf in particular - If i didnt like the guy behind me I would just floor it and he would cop all the black smoke…wish I could do that to Evs now
@CrazyTachikoma: this is the latest ABS report the last one they did was 2020 where are you seeing this average? https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/tourism-and-trans…
@CrazyTachikoma: But you are missing that on a novated least everything comes out pre-tax on an EV, including the principal.
@mudguts: yeah but those novated leases have a ton of fees as well… no free lunch
with the state incentives it was a bit more attractive, but all states have stopped doing that now
nothing fixes the resale problem, so I'd only buy an LFP battery EV to keep it till it dies…
@samfisher5986: the savings don't trump buying an EV with cash and haggling the price in this market
I got 7k off my ICE last December (from 54k), I can only image what you could get with EVs and dealer's desperation to sell them
@CrazyTachikoma: Whatever the dealer is doing cash, you can do on a novated lease.
If anything my dealer said they can do a better price if its on novated lease.
IMO Electric is only good for local use/ short travel. And BYD is still new + electric vehicle has much lower value retention rate.
These are really nice cars. Specially the Hybrids have a new design dash and the exterior grew on me shortly after they first came out.
Rav 4, the safety tech is much less annoying.
Go sealion 6 for a proper hybrid.
BYD Sealion
Kia Sportage GT
I test drove both, Rav4 much better
car with such perfomance and spec is priced at ~$30k or less in China lol
Go live in China then lol
$16,990 is a small price to pay to avoid that.
I cAn gEt iT CheApEr iN mY hOmE CouNtry.
The amount of times I've heard that doozy…
really? whats the performance like? does it do 0 to 100 in 5 or 6 seconds? or faster?
Learn about basic economics and business
Maybe you have no idea what is tax and transport cost to ship the car to AUS. Plus salary and other cost to sell the car in AUS.
This and the excellent Hybrid Sante-Fe are pretty much a no-brainer for anyone looking for Hybrid cars outside of Toyota.
I'll be extremely careful for hyundai/kia petrol engines — google up kia/hyundai class action, there's even a facebook group for it -> https://www.facebook.com/groups/461757822246884/
The one's built in the states sure.. but a current owner of Kia Cerato(2019) base model and hasn't missed a beat yet..
FB group is AU based.
check this one out as well - https://www.kiaengineclassaction.com.au/#affected-vehicles and https://www.hyundaiengineclassaction.com.au/
So nothing new is affected according to those links?
@onlinepred: it doesnt affect their turbo motors
be that as it may i wouldnt bother
the koreans are big on selling your private data and $46k for a fwd small suv? i mean come on
@tonyjzx: Selling your private data? What do you mean? And yes, welcome to 2024, where all cars are far more expensive than they used to be
Same. Over 100k now and never had an issue.
I agree. This year we had the transmission break and need replacement at 67,000 km on a 6.5 year old Tucson, was a long fight to eventualy get them to replace it six months out of warranty. Car is ok now but not considering Hyundai/Kia for next car.
If an issue with a car stops you considering from the same maker, you will eventually have no cars available to buy.
Thats not true, I had plenty of issues with my 20 year old Magna having done 240,000 km before I traded it in for my Tesla. Loved that car and wouldn’t hesitate to get another Mitsubishi.
Where Hyundai went wrong with me was the fight, there is no way a transmission should die at 67,000 & the car had been serviced at Hyundai as per book from new. But instead of taking ownership of the issue and just getting it fixed, it took 2 months of back and forth and in the end it was a strongly worded letter using wording Vic Consumer Affairs gave us that did the trick.
It felt to me like they are having so many failures its effecting them financially so every cent they can force out of a customer is worth the hassle.
@bluey47: So it's more the dealer rather than the manufacturer?
Yes, we had to do similar with Toyota. I do find that instead of dealing with dealers, talk to the head office of Hyundai/Toyota etc.
I do agree that many dealers are scum, and you should always bypass them if you can.
Hopefully your Tesla dealer will be as good as your Mitsubishi dealer
@onlinepred: During the process the Hyundai dealer was good, it was Hyundai Australia head office which I never want anything to do with again.
Does it have the dct?
No, it has the 6spd Automatic. It failed while my wife was in the Eastlink tunnel, not a fun experience for her.
@bluey47: Wow, that's shocking. I had a 2016 Kia Sportage and it was generally a good car, aside from little niggles like 2 x failing window actuators, head unit with terribl3 radio reception and questionable paint on the spoiler and mirrors but i always thought at least the engine and transmission are solid. The more stories i hear like these, the more releived i am that i sold it!
@bluey47: Wow I thought Hyundai/Kia 6spd torque converter automatics were bulletproof.
Media & the likes praise the traditional torque converter 6spd/8spd over the dct used in some Hyundai/kia models.
Seems like a roll a dice situation with ALL Hyundai/kia trannys.
I’ll stick to my Japanese slush box thankyou.
I have a 2016 Kia Sportage which is basically the same car. Ive had it for 6 years now and agree its garbage. Thankfully the Engine and Transmission are ok so far but the amount of other things gone wrong is pretty huge. Most were fixed under warranty thankfully but its out of warranty now. Since warranty ended the power windows have gone for the second time, the driver door handle doesnt open properly, the indicator/sensor speaker thing died, the tailgate button completely cracked, the pump for the windscreen washer leaks everywhere etc. Wouldn't get another one. Would like to get rid of it before the engine or transmission fails, which seems inevitable with the luck I've had.
I won't avoid Hyundai/Kia due to engine issues like some are talking about, I'd avoid them because they are cheaply made brittle pieces of garbage. Reviewers love them when they are new. Wait til they reach 5 years old and all the cheap plastic parts falls apart. My 10 year old Mazda has had no issues.
I would have thought only FIAT car will have so many problems.
@yht: Same here….apparently they are well built and reliable. Above is not even including what went wrong in the warranty period. Maybe I got a lemon. I recently looked into fixing the door handle issue and saw that Kia in the USA extended the warranty on door latches to 10 years because so many have the same issue. I haven't tried Kia here yet but doubt they will fix it.
I sold a 2016 Tucson when it was 3 years old and had done 30,000km. The buyer did an RACQ inspection which I thought was overkill for a new car that was still under manufacturer’s warranty. Turned out the car needed $5k of warranty repairs, including a full exhaust system due to corrosion, oil leaks from the rear main seal and a multitude of other issues. It will be a long time before I even consider a Korean car again
I wouldn't necessarily avoid the entirety of their petrol engines; their other drivetrains are pretty solid. The engine failures by most reports are largely associated with 2.4L Theta II engines which were used in the early 2010s across numerous Hyundai and Kia engine.
If we were to avoid an entire manufacturer based on engine failures associated to design or manufacturing fault, we'd all be riding a bike - not even Toyota is spared here.
Play it safe and buy a Toyota instead.
Not dismissing what you say, but I have learned that you can google any car manufacturer with the words "class action", and you will find something.
We've had issues with our Subaru's CVT (Subaru knows there's issues, because they covered 90% of the cost well out of warranty), and I was trying to find out whether the issue was unique to them. I found that any manufacturer is having issues with CVT's. From my personal experience, any car you buy will have something unique to that model which affects every owner. I'm hoping electric cars will have fewer issues in general than ICE ones….
From what I've read the eCVT in the hybrid toyota is very different to a standard CVT and is very reliable. Subaru's CVT is apparently one of the worst on the market
Could be, but that's hybrid. I don't have that. Yes, apparently Subaru will start using Toyota's hybrid technology.
I guess my point is that there aren't really cars out there that don't have issues.
My 2016 Tucson was good… until the warranty is over. There are just too many plastic things failing one after other. Steering bush, all four window actuators, indicator switch. Engine seized at 80k 6yr mark. Spent 6 months fight with Hyundai and even getting fair trade involved. Replaced the engine block at half the quoted price. Sold it a year after.
I understand things can break over time, but this is beyond reasonable.
Electric > Hybrid (less moving pieces over longer run)
Petrol > Electric
Yea for towing your boat for sure. People that live in a city obviously have different needs
Hi Op, pretty good fuel efficiency.
91 or 98 petrol?
91.
for the same price you can buy a BYD Atto 3 SUV which requires 0 fuel.
91 RON! Unusual for a hybrid like this.
The Rav4 hybrid also takes U91
To the idiot negger, I own a Rav4 Hybrid.
Also see the spec sheet from Toyota.
It still specifies U91
Recommended fuel octane rating 91
https://www.toyota.com.au/-/media/toyota/main-site/vehicle-h…
Kia and Hyundai have kind of been knocking it out of the park lately in terms of their newer releases. Not sure what type of rock you're living under.
I'd agree with @cipher Kia and Hyundai have lost their niche.
The chinese are the new budget and the mercedes/bmw/audi will fill the prestige niche.
Kia and Hyundai are sitting in the middle with mid tier cars that are going up against the high end budget cars of china. Frankly they can't really compete on value.
i dont think the koreans have 'lost their niche'
they're asking more because they now think they are a 'premium' product
if people think their stuff is better than the chinese then they can pay the difference
as to hybrid fwd suvs - like can the chinese compete on this in reality?
the chinese have some joke hybrids and i think only BYD has some really great ones
Remember Mazda when they were the budget brands…
And now they are trying to compete with Volvo / semi-premium brands.
@Drakesy: Maybe it's not going well for Mazda, but the point is that they are trying (as are the South Korean duo)
Kia = Hyundai
Kia and Hyundai have kind of been knocking it out of the park lately
This comment has aged incredibly well
https://www.drive.com.au/news/kia-australia-recall-hecu-1041…
not to mention the class action lawsuits lol
Remember ford and their class action lawsuits… There are plenty of other examples from basically all carmakers. But it feels like Hyundai's woes are most published and regurgitated (old biases die hard?)
In a way, it kinda signals that they are a big successful car maker nowadays.
(And Hyundai is very big - worlds 3rd largest automaker)
Then I hope you never sell it, have a lot of patience and ideally can work on the car yourself.
I think there is no place for Japanese car. it is too expensive. Honda is dying and also on the street I can see new Toyota as much as before. instead many new korean and Chinese cars
by the time you EV is reaching 7-8 years the saving is pretty much pay off the EV. No need to worry about the 2nd hand price.
If you have access to NL you don't pay any GST (car and maintenance) and everything is pre-tax. That is way better than a hybrid.