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[QLD] $500 Rebate on E-Bike, $200 Rebate on E-Scooter @ Queensland Zero Emission Vehicle Strategy

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Eligibility criteria
To be eligible for a rebate under the scheme, you must:

  • purchase your eligible e-bicycle or e-scooter in full (including through buy now, pay later services) on or after 23 September 2024
  • purchase your eligible e-bicycle or e-scooter either in person at a retail store or online from an eligible business (a retail business located in Queensland or an Australian online * business—sole-trader, partnership, private or public company, trust or incorporated not for profit organisation—operating under an active Australian Business Number (ABN)
  • be a person aged 18 years or over
  • be a Queensland resident. This may be evidenced by a valid Queensland driver’s licence, or another form of evidence to prove residency in Queensland.

Eligible devices
To be eligible, an e-scooter must:

To be eligible, an e-scooter must:

  • be designed for use by 1 person
  • have 1 wheel at the front, and 1 or 2 wheels at the back or; 1 or 2 wheels at the front and 1wheel at the back
  • be propelled by an electric motor that is not capable of operating when the device is going faster than 25km/h
  • be steered by handlebars
  • have a footboard supported by the wheels
  • be no more than:
    • 1,250mm in length
    • 700mm in width
    • 1,350mm in height
    • 60kg in mass, when not carrying a person or other load.

To be eligible, power-assisted bicycle must:

  • be a power-assisted bicycle, that is:
    • be fitted with one or more electric auxiliary motor/s with a maximum power output, or combined maximum power output of not more than 200 watts; and
    • not be capable of travelling faster than:
      • 6km/h when propelled only by the electric motor/s (no pedalling), or
      • 25km/h while the motor/s are providing assistance (speeds in excess of 25km/h are only permitted under pedal power only) and
      • not be fitted with an internal combustion engine; or
    • be an electrically power-assisted cycle (EPAC) with a maximum continuous rated power of 250 watt, of which the output is:
      • progressively reduced as the cycle's travel speed increases above 6km/h; and
      • cut off, when:
        • the cycle reaches a speed of 25km/h; or
        • the cyclist not pedalling and the travel speed exceeds 6km/h.

Please visit this page and scroll down to the subheading "Source of power" for a further explanation on what the different types of electric bicycles are, to avoid purchasing a bicycle that may not qualify for the rebate.

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  • +7

    200w limit though, most stuff seems to be 250w doesnt it?

    • +1

      Yeah, that stood out too. If that is correct, and the bureaucracy apply it, unlikely to be many of those rebates paid out.

    • Yeah very strange, it's 200W limit with a throttle or 250W limit without for ebikes to be road legal. You would have thought they'd just say compliant with EN 15194 instead

    • Thats a screwup which they will probably fix when pointed out to them. The website is attempting to simplify and reword the legislation.
      EN15194 is 250W.

      • Its only 250W if its a pedelec. 200W if its got a throttle.

        • That's what tassies grant states. Does the Qld grant state that also?

          As far as I'm aware throttle only bikes aren't permitted on public roads in Queensland, unless it's a toddlers e-balance bike that tops out at a massive 6km/h

          • @frugalferret:

            be an electrically power-assisted cycle (EPAC) with a maximum continuous rated power of 250 watt, of which the output is:
            progressively reduced as the cycle's travel speed increases above 6km/h; and
            cut off, when:
            the cycle reaches a speed of 25km/h; or
            the cyclist not pedalling and the travel speed exceeds 6km/h.

            Yes if you click on the literal link that OP posted. Though to be fair OP did not put all of the eligibility criteria in the body of their post.

            • @Nuggets: Whoops not sure how I did that - added

    • +13

      You subsidize things you want and tax what you don't. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they are wrong.

    • +2

      If enough people spend less on petrol because they are using their subsidised ebike for commuting, wouldn't that decrease inflation?

      • +4

        That's not a realistic outcome.

        You'd need to get way more people converting than would ever happen, due to other uses and needs, to get to a stage where demand fell. Further, petrol is priced on the international market, so even if demand dropped locally (which won't happen), the cost wouldn't change. They'd just reduce the number of retailers for example.

      • +4

        Inflation is mostly (if not always) explained by overspending by governments and monetary policies, like printing too much money. Some products might increase or decrease its price due to demand changes, but it won't explain inflation on many areas as we are having in Australia since covid

    • +13

      $12 billion/year tax payer money spent on roads to fill our cities with traffic congestion and pollution, and you complain about this?

      • -4

        Road infrastructure among other things is funded by fuel excise which is currently @50.6 cents/L in addition to GST. Govt collected $15.7 billion in Fuel excise in 2023-2024.

        Stop blaming road infrastructure that help you access amenities & essential services.

        • +2

          It is about time that the excise was renamed back to its old name, the road user charge. And used for its original purpose, maintaining roads.
          As it is currently identified, politicians use the revenue for other things, and then the ponds institute and the like runs around pretending non road use of fuel (eg mining and agriculture) somehow get a subsidy as the excise doesn’t apply for that purpose

          Oh, and the excise now exceeds 50¢, plus has GST applied on top!. It’s hard to believe that only 16-17 years ago Qld did not have fuel excise applied at all.

          • @entropysbane: Even when they do spend the money on roads, they waste it. Just down the road from me is 500m of road that has had 26million spent on it and is taking 2.5years to do. All they're doing is a rebuilding a 200m section, replacing a roundabout with a set of lights and resurfacing the rest. I swear 10-15 years ago they used to do small sections of road like that in a few months, not 2.5 years… Every time I drive past it, most the workers are standing around chatting and not doing any productive work. If you can't beat em though, guess I'll try and join em? I am looking for something new. Seems like a cruisy/easy job lol.

            • @Tythefly86: Imagine how rural people feel driving down the SE freeway observing the parallel bike path complete with massive concrete overpasses costing tens of millions of dollars when they can’t even get a concrete bridge over the river on the major regional highway to their communities.

              • @entropysbane: I recommend you avoid these kinds of fallacies (in this case "false equivalence") in your thinking and arguments.

                You're talking about one bike path in the most densely populated area in the entire state.

                And you're comparing it to unspecified multiple regional areas, with unknown populations (definitely much lower population density), which you are vague alluding to without providing any specific names or evidence.

                There are advantages and disadvantages to living anywhere, and I bet the people in those unspecified rural areas you're alluding to are quite happy to live in a quiet area with little congestion and much better value-for-money housing/land. Not everyone has that opportunity.

                • @ForkSnorter: OK: that’s a lot of assumptions there in defence of the indefensible. the reason I was not specific is that it is an incredibly common problem of under resourced regions vs over resourced missallocation of taxpayer loot in particular a bikeway.

                  But I can easily get specific. The Kennedy development road is the route from cairns and Townsville to the Gulf Country communities. The Gilbert River crossing is a concrete causeway that goes under for most of the wet season. as in deeply under and cannot be crossed. For months. The Mayors of Croydon, Carpentaria, Burke and Doomadgee have been lobbying for a bridge for many years, but don’t get much love, no doubt because they vote for the Katters.
                  That’s one bridge on a vital route carrying billions of dollars for export industries such as beef, nickel and gold, or even potentially uranium, a major tourism route, and of course, the road you go on to hospital, to put your kids in boarding school (the state doesn’t provide a high school other than correspondence) or even a night at the pub in Georgetown.
                  That’s one bridge compared with the multiple bridges on a barely used bikeway (it has nothing to do with the size of adjacent population, it is for the very few beneficiaries who happen to ride bikes along that specific route).

                  • @entropysbane: I feel you are missing the target in your argument. The amount of money spent on that bikeway pales in comparison to the billions spend continuously upgrading and expanding roads in South-East QLD. It is a drop in the ocean. Why would you focus on this particular drop in the ocean? Why not focus on where the bulk of the money is spent, over-allocated to big city roads, and under-allocated to rural areas? I think there is a bias at play here, whether conscious or unconscious.

                    Bikeways pose a partial solution to congestion, while also making people healthier/fitter and consequently less reliant on the healthcare system as they get older. They also provide a way to get around without contributing to air pollution and noise pollution in the city. A lot of people also really like cycling.

                    While the bikeway that heads south from Brisbane CBD along the freeway towards the Gold Coast is not packed, it is nevertheless used by a lot of people who work down that way. I think part of the reason it's not as popular as it could be is because it is so incomplete. There are all kinds of gaps in it where you have to get off the bike and wait at traffic lights, weave through all kinds of busy roads and pedestrians and hospital footpaths, and whatnot. I hope they make it more complete one day. That bikeway is also heading towards the technology park and some other industrial areas which are likely to grow in future and require a lot of people to commute from north/central Brisbane.

                    Bikeways are something that a big city needs. And there are other bikeways in Brisbane that get an enormous amount of use. Brisbane's population is growing very fast, and without this kind of infrastructure, people will be more limited to cars and the roads and stuck in congestion breathing toxic air. There needs to be alternatives to congestion. Building a bikeway does not stop the government building bridges where they are needed in rural areas, if the demand is there. So, I think this is a pretty weird argument.

                    • @ForkSnorter: As distance increases the use of the bikeway to the city declines. People living in Annerley are more likely to use it, while it would be an unusual person indeed who would ride from Springwood to teh city. Regardless, it is very poor value for money. And as noted other bikeways are more utilised and don’t have bridges costing millions of dollars.

                      a busway does vastly more for the purpose you describe than a bikeway ever could. It is an appalling waste of money.

                      And for a Gulf Country region resident, driving past an empty, over engineered bikeway gets right up their nose when they can’t even get a bridge on their main highway to deliver the goods that generates the Royalties on which the state heavily relies.
                      The government’s choice is highly visible, and regionally is a well known metaphor of how their needs are ignored while minority groups in SEQ are pandered to.

                      • +2

                        @entropysbane: I don't have the knowledge to discuss your north QLD points in detail.

                        But I think it is absolutely amazing that Brisbane/QLD has been forward thinking in building that bikeway. Wait and see what happens in 10 or 20 years, when congestion is so bad there is a mass exodus from the freeway to bikes and public transport. And when those technological/industrial employment hubs around Eight Mile Plains and Mt Gravatt continue to grow.

                        For the most part, governments don’t tend to be forward thinking like this, which is why we end up with problems like the current Brisbane congestion problem (recently demonstrated to be the worst in Australia, and one of the worst in the world).

                        I think you are focused too much on the money that was spent on that bikeway. Do you really think QLD might have built the rural bridges you mention if the bikeway had not been built?

                        By the way, I did a bit of reading, and came up with some data:

                        • 800,000 QLDers ride a bike.

                        • QLD government has just announced $41.5 million for the Cairns Southern Access Cycleway. So bikeway funding is not just spent in SE QLD.

                        • For every dollar invested in a bikeway, nearly five dollars are returned in economic benefits to Queensland – however the cost to benefit ratio for many built motorways is as low as 0.24, compared to close to 5.0 for bikeways.

                        • The United Nations suggest 20% of transport infrastructure funding should go towards active transport, but QLD investment in bikeways is not even 1% of the total QLD budget for transport and roads.

                        • The Gulf Country has a very low population and very low population density. I'm not saying that this means the government shouldn't build bridges that they need. But the fact is, in low-populated rural areas, the per-person $ spent by the government is usually higher than in high-density areas. Economic efficiency tends to be concentrated in highly populated areas, and tails off as you go further and further into low populated areas. On top of that, the government collects more tax per person in high-density population zones, whether it’s through taxing higher salaries or taxing more expensive housing. So I think infrastructure in areas with higher population density has a better payback for the government.

                        It’s also worth noting that the local council pays for a lot of the biking infrastructure. Brisbane City Council is the biggest in Australia in terms of population, and therefore budget.

                        By the way, I don't live in Brisbane. I don't think I ever could, it is just too busy nowadays with too much congestion. I'm a rural/semi-rural resident. If anything was a waste of money, it was that ridiculous Queens Wharf development in the CBD, which cost $4 billion.

    • +11

      Less cars on the road seems always a good thing?

    • +19

      I have people in my team who have already shifted from driving to work to public transport thanks to the cheaper fares. I've also stopped driving and have been riding my escooter in. It's a holistic approach to changing the overall way we interact with getting around. Not everything will work for everyone, but slowly but surely if we can incentivise alternative transport methods the entire network operates more efficiently.

      • The trouble is that 50¢ isn’t going to cover the cost of the transaction.
        I would be more confident if they just made it free and removed the fare infrastructure. That would reduce the overall operating loss as fare collection costs are removed.

        And make it really hard to reneg on the permanent 50¢ fare promise. Because that is what politicians do. It’s in their nature.

    • -3

      I know - I miss when the government was only interested in helping out the mining companies pillage our land for their own pockets. And thanks to the apparent short-sightedness of many Queenslanders, it looks like we're going to be heading back to the LNP crooks who want to destroy the state even more.

      • +2

        You forgot to mention how Labour Govt, which is in power in both Federal and state level, has done to save our lands from pillaging?

        Do you have any idea how much Australian economy is dependent on mining and resources industry? Without mining and resources industry, we will be worse than a 3rd world country.

        All these Labour crooks have done is create generation of bums by handing out welfare payments and freebies for votes.

        • Without mining and resources industry, we will be worse than a 3rd world country.

          That's so true.
          But the so called environmentalist greenies net 0 bullshit cult cannot see it.
          They all have air conditioning at home and take holidays overseas though…

          create generation of bums by handing out welfare payments and freebies for votes

          Those bums on welfare are enslaved to the government and must do as they are told. The goverment bought them with taxpayers' money.

  • +10

    The number of times I see parents riding on the same scooter as their kids, and the number of times scooter riders have zoomed past me (as a pedestrian) and scared me as they dont ring a bell like cyclists do when they are approaching you.. these things need more regulation before more people are injured or killed riding them/have people riding them crash into them

    • +4

      Less vehicles on the roads is bad and a waste of tax payers money?

    • +5

      This is a waste of money but $12 billion/year spent on roads is not?

        • -1

          There are already enough roads for the trucks. A large portion of this $12 billion is invested in building more roads, widening roads, building bridges, overpasses, bypasses, etc. that encourage more people who don't need to be on the road to keep driving. You know that big queue of BMWs out the front of private schools twice a day. They really don't need to be on the road. In fact, come to think of it, the congestion really gets better during school holidays.

            • +1

              @PainToad:

              Guess trucks delivering things to people’s homes will be replaced with scooters and footpaths in your version of utopia?

              People going grocery shopping will beed to carry all their groceries home in a back
              pack?

              Like I said, these roads already exist. A large portion of the road budget is spent building new roads or expanding roads to ease congestion for people who really don't need to be on the road, simply because QLD public transport isn't good enough to encourage drivers to use it.

                • +9

                  @PainToad:

                  The solution is sustainable population growth.

                  You're right that the population has grown too fast.

                  But there is no such thing as sustainable population growth with just roads.

                  At a certain level of population density, roads alone cannot cope with the needs of the population. This is a very simple concept which many people don't seem to understand or even to think about.

                  At a certain level of population density, cities pretty much shut down with congestion if there is not a viable alternative to roads for the bulk of the population.

                  We have pretty much reached that point in Brisbane, or very near it.

                  There needs to be much more investment in off-grid public transport. By off-grid, I mean off the road, e.g. more trains, ferries, subways, bus tunnels, or whatever. Otherwise, see what happens to Brisbane's traffic in a few years…

                • +1

                  @PainToad:

                  This same population boom is creating even more urban sprawl. Requiring more roads.

                  The solution isn't scooters. The solution is sustainable population growth.

                  You're against urban sprawl but also don't think scooters and bikes are a viable mode of transport in a city without sprawl?

                    • +2

                      @PainToad: How does incentivising bike transport for the population where it is feasible to do so make the problem worse?

                      • +1

                        @pant: When everyone else has to pay for it. It isn’t as though bikes and scooters cost a lot. And this little rebate isn’t means tested.

                        This is just inner city vote buying. Or more precisely, defending inner city ALP seats against a Green Party insurgency.

                        On the bright side, more people with their own scooters will threaten the viability of those scooter rentals that end up sprawled all over busy footpaths for peak hour pedestrians to trip over

                        • +4

                          @entropysbane: Everyone pays magnitudes of order more if we don't encourage people to get out of cars through time in traffic and costs from increased maintenance and wider roads.

              • @ForkSnorter: How do you know they don’t really need to be on the road? Over my life I have always been amazed at the endless variety of different needs and desires of other people. And I have found it hard to not let my inner dictator decide for them A Better Way. *

                You should try it.

                Oh, and anything increasing the efficiency of goods delivery such as better roads reduces the cost of, well, everything.
                * People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome

                • @entropysbane:

                  Oh, and anything increasing the efficiency of goods delivery such as better roads reduces the cost of, well, everything.

                  Yep, and 90% of people being stuck in congestion every day increases the cost of everything, not to mention people's stress and wasted time.

                  If you haven't been following my argument: there is a limit to what can be achieved with roads alone in terms of reducing congestion when the population density it as a certain level. At a certain level of population density, trying to reduce congestion by adding one more road is like throwing a glass of water at a bush fire.

                  Brisbane needs an off-grid (off-road) solution, which mean a lot more investment into trains, subways, ferries, trams, monorails, or anything else that can move people efficiently without them being stuck in individual 2 tonne automobiles going at 10-40kph.

          • @ForkSnorter: There are broken roads to be fixed to save lives.
            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/bruce-highway-federal…

            • -1

              @bcYield: Yeah but the ALP doesn’t have much electorate furniture in the regions to protect.

        • +2

          Bit dense to interpret that as saying we should do away with roads. Kind of numpty stuff I expect to see on x.com. Less cars on road equals less wear and need to increase capacity on roads equals less $ spent on roads.

      • -4

        This has to be the dumbest argument ever.

        How do you get your deliveries, ambulance, fire
        service etc to you home? Humans have been building roads for thousands of years, even when there were no cars.

        BTW, road infrastructure among other things is funded by fuel excise which is currently @50.6 cents/L in addition to GST. Govt collected $15.7 billion in Fuel excise in 2023-2024.

        • +1

          Humans have been building roads for thousands of years, even when there were no cars.

          I forgot about the 3 lane Roman highways with 3-tonne chariots.

          • @pant: Not only chariots buts carts, horses and other means of conveyance too. Goods were still traded and needed to be transported from long distances.

            • @TangoCharlieAlpha: Not to mention dozens of them on the road at one time!

            • @TangoCharlieAlpha: And those Roman roads were a major reason for the success of the Roman Empire and built so well many are still around today.

    • +7

      I would rather the gov put the money towards upgrading bike/scooter paths/lanes so they are safer and more user-friendly or creating new paths.

    • -5

      Righto right winger.

  • Hello can a qld buy this for me and ship it over I will pay the extra $100 ship fee :)

    • Sure, my price is $399.

      • True Ozbargainer.

    • +1

      This needs a classified megathread!

  • +1

    There is a cap of between 2000 and 5000 claims (depends on scooter/bike ratio) for this, processed in order of claim reciept with no guarantee of payout.
    So it planning to use it then do it on day 1 with immediate claim and ability to return the bike if you miss out.

    • How do you know there is a cap? I couldn't find any information about that

  • +7

    I'm curious as to why this rebate only targets e-bikes and e-scooters but not push bikes? Push bikes are also zero emission vehicles.

    • an ebike costs more so is in more need of a rebate to encourage use.
      A decent quality bicycle is less than the rebate.

      • +2

        So provide a smaller rebate

          • +5

            @PainToad: You make a good point; all roads should be tolled because tax payers don't cover anywhere near the true cost of building and maintaining them.

          • @PainToad: Do you even know what a society is or do you want some kind of libertarian hellscape?

    • That's exactly what I was wondering.

  • is it easy[and cheap] to upgrade these ebike 200w motors?

  • -1

    Kinda off topic… I swear the second e scooters become legal on NSW roads/footpaths, there will be more of them than cars and motorcycles combined.

    • +2

      Footpath and cycleway infrastructure isnt great in the suburbs, so probably not.
      But in Sydney CBD yeah there would be a million of them on a weekday.

      • +6

        The more I've explored, the more I find Brisbane's bikeway network to be amazing. I haven't compared it to any other cities, but I'm often surprised how easily I can get around without touching a road.

    • HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!! Thanks for the laugh.

  • Valid on ninebot g2…?

  • -2

    Poor tax payers

    • +1

      We sell coal to gina who pays us back for it. Win win

  • ready for an exodus from Victoria!

    Not me. Just a lot of other people I assume hehehehe

    • ready for an exodus from Victoria

      Oh we already had one of those, thanks to Covid.

  • Meanwhile NSW still can't use these.

  • +2

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-18/e-scooter-laws-differ…

    Data collected at participating hospitals of the Queensland Injury Surveillance Unit shows there were 1,273 e-scooter-related emergency department presentations reported last year.
    This is a 25 per cent increase from 2022, and an 84 per cent jump from 2021.

    That will fix the disastrous ambulance ramping at QLD hospitals emergency departments.

    • -4

      sadly it'll take horrific injuries/crashes before it'll click with the qld gov why e-scooters remain illegal in NSW

    • +4

      Mate, this is not the reason hospitals in QLD have ramping issues. If you only count the major SEQ hospitals - PA, RBWH, Ipswich, Logan, QE2, Prince Charles and Caboolture - this is 180 presentations a year, or 0.5 presentations a day.

      Try issues like mental health, drugs, alcohol, and inappropriate presentations due to lack of primary care availability.

      • -3

        Mate, this is not the reason hospitals in QLD have ramping issues

        I know this is not the reason. The reason is the completely incompetent government and the hopeless succession of health ministers we have had.
        This is just going to make it even worse.
        By the way, at the RBH DEM alone they average about 8 escooter related presentations every week.

        https://www.rbwhfoundation.com.au/blog/rbwh-foundation-resea…

  • +1

    Recommend trying out Zoomo for those of you who are looking to buy one

  • Would an emtb count?

  • Net 0 dream!
    Then in a few years when the battery is gone you have to dump the whole bike because a battery replacement costs the same of a whole new bike.
    Save the planet!
    At least is a stimulus for the chinese economy.

  • The scooter with 200w power is good for visiting the politician's mum next door

  • +5

    Would love to know about some e-scooters (under $1000)/bikes ($1500) which are on offer at the moment.

    • +1

      You can get a Segway Ninebot F2 from Amazon for $799. I got one from them a few months back for $749 on sale and it is great. It’s speed limited to 25km/h as well so it is approved and $599 after rebate would be a decent deal.
      Edit: 350w motor may not qualify

      • +4

        Reading terms at high level, the wattage restriction only applies to e-bikes, not e-scooters.

        I have no doubt the creative OzB army will share tips to maximise value on this, as may sellers

        • Sounds good, let’s go 😎

        • Yes that’s true actually, sorry, the Ninebot F2 should qualify. Thanks for pointing that out :)

  • +1

    meanwhile, NSW is illegal :(

  • +9

    Only ozbargainers would whinge about this lol

  • anything for nsw?

    • +3

      Fines

  • What are the offical retailers of escooters? I found out my Xiaomi scooter is counterfeit and am now parranoid.

    Googling segway has 4 different links show up
    Xiaomi, is it the MI-STORE?
    What other brands do people recommend

    Also, 200watt seems low as?

    • I bought mine from 'Electric Kicks' online.

  • Does the Segway Ninebot KickScooter E2 qualify?

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