Bought it last week and of course the price goes down. Good deal for a low power 24/7 thin client. It's lower power usage than a SFF and launched in 2019.
Planning to try mine for home assistant. Pass mark score rates it higher than Dell Wyse 5070 and way above Home Assistant Green. Enjoy!
Listed under Optional, so I doubt it
I picked up a couple of these recently and can confirm that they can run via either their custom power adapter or via USB-C PD.
I've got them plugged into USB-C monitors and it handles power and video with the one cable with no issues. They run ChromeOS Flex very smoothly too, been happy with that.
I stand corrected, thanks for clarifying.
stupid question - how did you get Chrome on there?
@Oldmate88: Just follow the instructions at https://support.google.com/chromeosflex/answer/11552529 and it's pretty straightforward (well so long as you have an existing computer to start the process from)
@gibspmuh: Appreciate it.
Get ready for a reply in 2 weeks when I've lost storage on everything and I'm stuck in the dark web or something stupid
Mine from same seller came with it & WiFi built-in.
No, it says usb-PD is on the front port, for output. So you can charge your phone from it.
Luck of the draw. I bought one from this seller a few weeks ago, and I got the optional USB-C port with PD at the back. However, I did not get the built-in wifi that other buyers got.
I can confirm it does power on via a 65W USB-C power adapter I had. I don't think the front-USB-C can be used to power this up, I doubt it, but I didn't test.
My order just arrived today from the last time this was posted. I got the usb c port and the built in wifi. I haven't booted it up yet.
How did you go? I got mine, with power adapter, wifi and it can be powered by USB-C.
It's got windows enterprise on it though I am struggling to do anything with it
Better them n100?
In what metric?
No, but a crap-ton cheaper.
No.
2 less cores (4 on N100)
~5% worse single core perf vs N100
15W power (6W on N100, but anecdotally is around 10W)
Makes sense considering its ~2.5 years older than the N100
For $66, not bad but don't expect it to be fantastic
n100 is double the price.
What the best way to move windows from another device to this one?
Acronis
They also have HP or Dell thin clients with GX-415GA, 8GB and 32GB SSD for $34 APAY25.
Good enough for Home Assistant.
Pity you need an Afterpay account.
I payed via PayPal using "APAY25" without issue.
$10 more for 128gb ssd
These are T630s. They are pretty good for a lot of things, but they have the annoying feature that they only take an M.2 SATA SSD, and those are more expensive and are getting harder to find.
I personally love bespoke power adapters.
Will this be ok as a HTPC - hoping to play local content including 4k video via HDMI
Where do you see HDMI on this? You can get a DP->hdmi, or usb-> hdmi, but will need active conversion for 4K.
Better to get a cheap (used?) Android-TV box.
but will need active conversion for 4K
I got a couple of passive DP++->HDMI cables from a reputable supplier who claims they can do 4K.That's why I got them. But because I then didn't get the HDMI device I was going to use them with I haven't actually been able to test them.
Passive adapters do 4k at only 30hz
Passive adapters do 4k at only 30hz
You may well be right. I bought a couple of 4K DP cables at the same time as I bought a couple of passive DP to HDMI cables, and when I look at the invoice I think I must have decided that 30Hz was good enough for what I wanted to use the latter for.
HDMI out isn't an issue for the reasons you've highlighted.
I'd be using it for music via Spotify controlled through phone (etc) and also YT.
Just want to know whether it would play 4k ok from local files (one the few intended uses) as my laptop (i5-1135G7) seems to have started struggling with buffering.
According to the AMD specs it will do 10bit VP9 and H265 decode up to 4K. Should work fine with a DP -> HDMI adapter. Not a lot of info online for this, but looks like a surprisingly capable little box, especially for this price.
Did find this review of a very similar specced device (1606g downclocked to 2.6GHz w/ 4GB RAM), and seemed to do surprisingly well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCgkzLayauA
Just picked one up myself, but should be a great replacement for an ancient 11 year old Intel NUC I've been using for an HTPC on an old TV the kids use.
These units can be attached to the back of a monitor with a suitable bracket. Or they can be operated horizontally. Or they can be operated vertically. The seller's description says these units don't come with either the bracket to attach it to the back of a monitor, or a stand to operate it either horizontally or vertically.
These devices are not designed to be operated vertically without the stand. The bottom side of the unit is not flat. Operate it without the stand and it may fall over.
They are passively cooled by convection. They absolutely must not be operated horizontally sitting on a surface without the stand and will overheat quickly because no air will be able to get into it from the bottom side. They rely on the stand to space them up off whatever they are on to allow air to flow up through the unit and cool it. You could construct something to space it up. There are four screw holes under a removable panel - a screwdriver will pry it off easily - that you could fit short bolts into to act as legs.
Or just fold a piece of cardboard multiple times until it’s thick, do that 3 more times, tape them all to each corner, and boom you got cheap “legs”.
This post should probably be taken down.
username checks out.
Why? Does something about it annoy you?
Can see internals on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcF-P1F7Zr8
Look like there's a hack available to make it ignore the IC in the bespoke power supply
Will this run well as a desktop for youtube?
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Good move, was wondering what was going on, are the other users bots or something?
Yeah would be keen to learn if this is something we should expect more of in the future
Nothing like that. What happened was the first user (jbird84), wrote their comment twice by accident. Then another member saw the duplicate comment and then also wrote the same comment as a joke, then others followed.
Got it 👍
Hi @junet as the OP who purchased this last week can you confirm if this has power delivery over USB-C? Seems to be a question many of us here are asking.
Hey, i haven't received mine yet so I have no idea.
Will it have Wifi and/or Bluetooth
No.
There's an M.2 A+E key slot a wifi/bt card can be fitted into, but its a bit messy fitting antennas.
There is a different model T640 which comes with wifi that has internal antennas installed. People are willing to pay more for those when they find them.
I must have gotten lucky, both of the boxes I got have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth in them, along with the USB-C expansion port.
Yes, I actually complained to this seller the last time he was selling T640s that people were reporting theirs came with wifi, when he hadn't put that in the description, and ones that had that model number don't have wifi. I would have bought a couple if I'd known. He said he sent some from his wifi stock to fill the number of orders he'd gotten. So, yeah, you were one of the ones who got lucky in that regard.
Sorry to ask a dumb question, so can you load Windows 11 on it to run it like a mini computer? I just want to check emails, surf the web…maybe Youtube at most or play some music.
Yes it would do just fine, but if you are only doing those things it would be much smoother running a linux distro or something like ChromeOS flex if you want something simple.
I'd really consider getting a 4-core at least for Windows 11. Look out for the 8500t CPU in a mini PC instead. Usually ~180 so yes a fair bit more than this but fully supported, better performance, upgradeable RAM and an extra storage slot typically.
As heef said, run Linux/ChromeOS if you just want other basic uses. Perhaps Mint for Linux is a good place to start.
ahh cheers, though not a fan of Android or ChromeOS…
ChromeOS is mainly just the chrome browser, with not much else. If you do everything currently on your windows machine in the browser (or can, e.g. using your email online instead of a client), then it's a really minor transition.
can you load Windows 11
Absolutely.
Install Windows 10 or 11 as normal for any PC. Go to the AMD drivers web site and get the drivers for the R1505G SoC. Install all the drivers except the video. Reboot. Install the video driver. Absolutely do NOT use the Windows 10 drivers on the HP web site. They are configured to only install with the thin client Windows 10 HP supplies, and they won't give you an error message saying they haven't installed.
I actually run Tiny 11, by NTDEV, which is a version of W11 with a lot of the crap removed. You don't have to activate it, but it still updates.
If you don't want W10 to upgrade to W11, or you don't want secure boot and disk encryption, go into the BIOS the first time and turn off secure boot and hide the TPM
For any sensitive data it is highly discouraged to use custom ISOs for your PC. You are much better off using open source scripts like AtlasOS or ReviOS as everything they add or remove is well published and scrutinised by the community. They are also customisable with what you want to remove or keep.
More script projects are listed in this article
Out of stock now. I can't report it because of the dumb rule about not being able to report deals multiple times (originally for the title).
FYI you can report the deal again by reporting one of the revisions, click the ! to make a further report. If no revisions were made, you can click report on one of the comments, as a work around.
We chose to limit multiple reports, to stop it being abused to flood moderators with duplicate reports someone re-reporting the same thing because the report was not resolved the way they would like.
Thanks
Thanks for the tip. Maybe it should be you can’t report a deal multiple times for the same reason.
Thanks. I'll pass on the suggestion and see if that can be done without over complicating the query. Although it could still be abused (report the same thing in the text box, but chose a different default reason each time), it would be limited.
Well that sucks… Now I really want one. What sort of power consumption (real world) do people find with these?
2.4 GHz base frequency, up to 3.3 GHz burst frequency
2 cores and 4 threads
8GB RAM
Wow this thing is as powerful as the 14 year old Dell laptop I use as a spare PC I'm typing on. A i5 2520m from 2011 has the same 2 cores/4threads and a similar speed of 2.5 GHz -> 3.2Ghz. Over the years I had upgraded it with an SSD and 8GB ram too. This has half the power draw too 35W vs 15W.
How technology flies…
Actually Ryzen R1505G is substantially faster than your old i5-2520m, according to CPU Mark while using a lot less electricity. Number of cores and clock frequency are not true indication of the performance.
It's a thin client, they're designed around other systems doing all the processing power.
Plus as Scotty said not all core counts and clock speeds are made equal, modern CPUs can do a lot more in a cycle
I was expressing my amazement and praising it and would have instantly bought one for fun if I saw it in time. I know from my ancient computer that it is still quite usable for light browsing and for this to be faster it while being fanless, using less power and can prob hardware accelerate youtube videos while mine can't, all for $66.
Technology is amazing.
What are people using these for? I want a cheap thingo like this for study and return my old PC for dedicated sim. 😅 I hate using phone/tablet for coursework. I always need 2 screens.. 😅
I plan to use it for home assistant as it uses less power than my current dell optiplex.
I'll repurpose the optiplex to running Klipper and Octoprint for my 3D printer.
Good idea for your printer. What did you mean by home assistant though?
https://www.home-assistant.io/
I track a few things through it, such as my solar via my inverter and a few other things such as pihole for ad blocking (though that doesn't play nicely with my vpn and I can't be bothered figuring out why). The main thing I use it for is to track my xiaomi temperature probes that I've got installed in the freezers and my native bee hives. There's a few more options compared to the xiaomi app.
Damn I missed out - I was after another one. I have one which I've upgraded to 32GB RAM and a few TB of SSD and use it as a Proxmox host, running Home Assistant, Frigate, Windows DC and a few others. They're a very capable, low power home server.
Look for a T740. Its noisier because its got a fan, but with a faster quad core Ryzen its got a lot more grunt. Probably have to buy it from a US refurbisher, with the freight costs that involves.
The T740 looks pretty good and noise from a fan doesn't both me as the rack already has other noisy equipment. Looks like a T740 would be a good addition to the cluster.
I'm also currently running mine as a Proxmox host, added 1TB & 16GB.
How well does Frigate run on it? I'm running HA and Frigate on a Raspberry Pi 4 using Docker and looking for something more capable for Frigate detection processing.
Great deal!
I still think a Wyse 5070 with Pentium J5005 is a better choice for an eco home server.
10W TDP vs 25W is significant for this section.
My Wyse running smoothly at about 7W with about 10 light dockers.
The CPU can be configured up to 25W, this unit is 12W.
woulda been perfect as a stremio hardware for tv as the android app on a andoird tv unit is laggy
Exactly what I got mine for.
Now I just need to work out how to wipe it and reinstall windows
what about like ubuntu which is free and boots super fast, does stremio work on that
Don't even know what that is
yes this is proving to be a challenge. one of the issues is the driver for the internal emmc isnt in the prebuild iso so it bombs out. if i use a retail (well not OEM or ENT) version of windows it allows me to load the driver to install.
yeah, nah you've lost me haha
I got mine, but it has an enterprise version of windows on it. Can't download anything due to 'admin' security restrictions.
Any suggestions how to get past it?
I tried the sophisticated password of "admin" and "ADMIN" but no luck
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Wow, usb-c with power delivery? Does that mean I can power this thing with a usb-c pd adapter? That's massive. I really dislike bespoke power adapters.