ASUS RT-AX86U Pro AX5700 Wi-Fi 6 Gaming Router (German Stock) $316.07 Delivered @ Amazon DE via AU

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ASUS RT-AX86U Pro AX5700 Wi-Fi 6 Gaming Router (German Stock) $316.07 Delivered @ Amazon DE via AUAffiliate
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German stock.

Improvement on the $377 from this recent deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/863473
However this time around it's longer shipping, sent from Germany.

I bought the Flint 2 last week myself, and found it dropping WiFi connections a couple of times. Subsequently reflashed it to OpenWrt and now it's perfect, a very good unit.

I noticed in my research that this Asus router was using 8 watts vs 6 watts for the Flint 2 on tests, so therefore I'd guess the WiFi on the Asus is stronger if you have a large area to service. In any case the deal for the Fiint 2 has now finished.

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  • RichardL on 06/09/2024 - 11:02
    +13

    Improvement on the $377 from this recent deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/863473

    Note: UK/Germany Routers are not the same as Australian Routers.

    From previous deal post:

    https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-…

    Country 802.11 Bands Channels Max txpower
    Australia b 1-11 200
    Germany b 1-13 100
      • RichardL on 06/09/2024 - 11:09
        +4

        There's only 1 Australian Review on Amazon for the specific model (RT-AX86U Pro) and it's 1 Star

          • netsurfer on 06/09/2024 - 11:29
            +8

            @trevor99: Didn't neg you, but it is well known different region routers have different setup. The region code for Asus routers are baked into the routers, not firmware anymore. However, you can have the router switch region via some linux commands, though it is something that has to be done every time the router restarts. Furthermore, in some regions, Asus do not provide plug adapters and only come with a power adapter for that region.

            Based on the region, the router's interface enables or disables some items. For most people, it is better to get the Australian model. The reason is your other devices (i.e. phones) are likely to adhere to only WiFi channels permitted in Australia. However, there are people getting Asus routers because of its ability to be manually customised.

          • XCOM v2 on 06/09/2024 - 12:22

            @trevor99: they are not exactly the same. see above comment

          • PlaunsJanus on 06/09/2024 - 14:04
            +1

            @trevor99: No evidence.
            C'mon mate there ozbargain posts that discuss this thoroughly and plenty of information online.

            I have an Asus UK router and am happy with the performance.
            I updated the firmware with an Australian one but I doubt it makes any difference.
            However I haven't looked into it at all anywhere, ever so there's obviously no evidence

      • SwarleyAUS on 06/09/2024 - 11:19

        Mine is ok. I would've said great a few weeks ago but recently it's not been updating the connected devices view correctly. Asus told me to do an engineering reset which seems like it's fixed the issue but too early to tell. Has a lot of good features that are well-simplified, the UI needs a refresh though - ubiquiti is tempting me

    • netsurfer on 06/09/2024 - 11:24
      +2

      Asus did baked the config into the device. However, you can workaround it. From memory, the AU model doesn't set it to 200. Also, that table is old and likely outdated. According to that table, for WiFi 802.11a (5Ghz), AU max is 1000 whereas DE max is 4000.

      If you really want to maximise the transmit power, you need to customise it through a startup script. Also TX Power of 200 doesn't give you 2x the coverage of 100. It is not linear.

    • Skullytor on 06/09/2024 - 11:31
      +2

      Yeh! I'd rather pay a bit extra and get the AU version
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/863473

      Deal is expired but they come up at that price often enough

      • RedHab on 06/09/2024 - 12:43
        +1

        You can get this for $288 on AliExpress. They have 10% discount codes every few weeks if you're willing to wait.

      • japes on 06/09/2024 - 12:53
        +2

        Chat with Amazon and get them to match the other Amazon price. I got one a couple of months ago for $309, Australian stock, matching an international price (might have been UK).

        • TommyGun on 06/09/2024 - 16:08

          Tried that with zero luck. Flatly refused and said they don't even price match. Anyway no rush.

    • spaceflight on 06/09/2024 - 12:22

      Higher transmit power might help devices receive a signal further away but unless those devices also have a high power radio to transmit with there isn't really an advantage.

      • RedHab on 06/09/2024 - 12:40

        True, but it depends. Many internet connections (think ADSL or NBN) as asymmetrical, so downloads are a lot faster than uploads. Which is how most people use (consume) the Internet.

        However, if you have Wifi cameras then sending lots of data, then you will want higher uploads.

        Also, in RF engineering, just doubling Tx power isn't the first option. Decreasing noise, and better modulation schemes are generally preferred.

    • BargainKen on 06/09/2024 - 14:51

      Its likely to be firmware controlled based on region, tell it you're in AU and you'll get AU power levels.

      Anyone who thinks Asus makes a router specifically for a small market like Australia with higher power levels probably thinks the NBN is good value for money.

  • Skullytor on 06/09/2024 - 11:32
    +2

    Does anyone know the Asus End of Life for this model? Asus Singapore says its 2026
    https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1051375/

  • ponchus on 06/09/2024 - 11:34

    This or the ASUS Tuff Gaming AX6000?

    • Skullytor on 06/09/2024 - 11:57

      looks like there is a new kid on the block
      https://www.asus.com/au/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/…

      • ponchus on 06/09/2024 - 12:10

        To be honest, for the price I would probably go for the RT-BE88U. Doesn't have 6E but it does have the same 2.5Gbps ports and 4 more 10Gbps ports as well.

        • Skullytor on 06/09/2024 - 12:11

          No Marlin fireware for RT-BE88U it seems

          • ponchus on 06/09/2024 - 12:21

            @Skullytor: Ahhh darn. Not ideal, but not a deal breaker. The price though being double that of the RT-AX86U Pro isn't great but would be on par with the BE86U (probably)

      • TommyGun on 06/09/2024 - 13:48

        If anything, the new model should see some better pricing and deals on the AC86U Pro.

  • gingerscale on 06/09/2024 - 12:05
    +3

    why would you not buy a Wifi 6e modem in 2024, especially if your spending this amount of $, all devices for the last few years have wifi 6e

    • get-innocuous on 06/09/2024 - 12:18
      +2

      If you're in a house rather than apartment wifi 6E doesn't have huge benefits for a single router setup.

      This router delivers 900Mbit via wifi to my PC which I am very happy with.

    • rumblytangara on 06/09/2024 - 14:32

      I care about reliable and stable APs which provide good coverage more than max theoretical speeds. Especially when combined with NBN which is probably the real bottleneck.

      I'm still on Wifi 5 hardware, because it's rock solid, incredibly flexible, and faster than my internet.

  • mecusherb on 06/09/2024 - 12:11

    I am not very tech savvy - Do you think my WIFI speeds are effected by my Netgear Ac1200 R62000 Model/Router?

    As in, is it worth upgrading to a better Modem. I am on a Aussie 100/20 plan and a LAN test through my PS4 had it flying at 96mbps however my work surface pro only gets up to about 24mbs at it's peak. This is after resetting the modem.

    Basically, is it worth upgrading the modem or is this kind of normal?

    • get-innocuous on 06/09/2024 - 12:15
      +1

      If you're only getting 24Mbps on your surface pro something else is going wrong. If you're sitting right next to the router a Wifi 5/ac router should be able to maintain 500Mbps.

      • mecusherb on 06/09/2024 - 12:17

        I might do a test on the mac mini which I haven't. Perhaps the work VPN is messing about with it too?

        • Skullytor on 06/09/2024 - 12:46

          Possibly yes…. test speeds with VPN disconnected.

    • wangasm on 06/09/2024 - 12:34

      Are you connected on the 5ghz band and not 2.4?
      And yes a VPN can slow it down. You should test with a phone too

      • mecusherb on 06/09/2024 - 12:36

        Phone is 52.4/16.1

        So decent speeds.

        How do I check which band I am on?

        **Edit - Worth noting that my partner works on the third floor of the townhouse and I am downstairs next to the modem so pros and cons to both bands.

        • wangasm on 06/09/2024 - 12:39

          You should be able to see 2 available Wifi networks and one should have 5G at the end of the name, make sure you are connected to this one.
          5G is faster but has less range. Really old devices won't support 5G

  • kungfuman on 06/09/2024 - 12:14
    +1

    yeah anything over a 100 bucks I tend not to risk it with overseas suppliers.

  • JoeyJoeJoe on 06/09/2024 - 12:21
    +1

    Nein

    • 0806449 on 06/09/2024 - 12:33

      Got Nein

  • spinferno on 06/09/2024 - 12:31
    +1

    I got excited from the positive reviews from the last deal that was posted for the RT-AX86U… then I saw the specs for the RT-AX88U and realised that it's less than a hundy more, so I pulled the trigger on the RT-AX88U. It's a beast and the wifi signal is so strong i can use it in every room now and even 1m away from my 1200 watt microwave during use!

    • goatonboat on 06/09/2024 - 14:34

      RT-AX88U is a great router…!

      I'm looking to offload mine now as i've stepped up to a U7 Pro. I swear the asus has slightly better range!

    • Pashka on 06/09/2024 - 16:25

      then I saw the specs for the RT-AX88U and realised that it's less than a hundy more, so I pulled the trigger on the RT-AX88U. It's a beast and the wifi signal is so strong i can use it in every room now and even 1m away from my 1200 watt microwave during use!

      I was looking at the Asus RT-AX88U Pro, then I looked at the specs of the fint 2 which were the same at nearly half the price.

      Got the flint 2, phenomenal WiFi performance, would definitely purchase again.

  • trevor99 on 06/09/2024 - 12:34

    Range of WiFi 6 is the best. Latency can also be better than 5. 6E or 7 does not improve range. Can only really help if there is heavy congestion like in tight apartment buildings etc because it opens more frequencies. This is why is hasn't changed for years.

    WiFi 7 has shorter range.

    How much throughput do you actually want?

    If you have range issues choose the 2.4Mhz option for WiFi 6.

    • rumblytangara on 06/09/2024 - 15:00

      Can only really help if there is heavy congestion like in tight apartment buildings etc because it opens more frequencies. This is why is hasn't changed for years.

      From my casual testing, the extra spectrum from 6e/7 isn't a big deal either. I've tested my 5GHz stuff in environments where I could see 30+ competing 5GHz APs and was still getting 400-500Mbps.

      The gig speeds from 6 and above only really seem to kick in when literally in the same room as the AP- the max speeds drop like crazy as soon as there's a single wall in the way.

      • trevor99 on 06/09/2024 - 15:19

        Yeah I think it comes down to testing it in your own place - stick something like this in then check around your house to see if it's enough. Play with antenna direction. Otherwise use something like a meshed system or powerline to a new WiFi id. This Asus will do mesh. In my case I have a 3 story house with a Flint 2 and it's good enough in all areas.

  • thispasito on 06/09/2024 - 12:45

    I think this will have the EU plug. I got the EU plug when I bought an ASUS product from Amazon Germany.

    Not a big deal if you have universal sockets but it is a bit annoying if you have to go out and buy an adapter.

  • justtoreply on 06/09/2024 - 13:18

    This is a bad purchase imho. Not 6E/7. Reduced transmit power because it's German.

    I can think of worse ways to spend $377, but not easily when it comes to router purchases

    In the least it's not better than the AU model for $377

  • kobe8tang on 06/09/2024 - 13:34

    My AC-68 died after 3 years of use due to a capacitor failed for a common issue. Now only shows fade power light. Not happy for these three years as sometimes data disconnected. Then I bought a Xiaomi AX6000 for 3 months, half of the price and much more powerful and stable.

    • wangasm on 06/09/2024 - 16:28

      That's pretty unlucky. My AC68U is 7 years old and still going with never an issue.

  • Freestyle on 06/09/2024 - 13:46

    Why does this German stock keep getting posted every month or so lol this is standard price its been at this price forever

  • sivadfam on 06/09/2024 - 15:17

    I got one from Amazon US came to $365 and has stronger power levels than the Au version , it does have bands here that are not to be used.

    I hope EOL is not in 2025 as the router is not that old. I have a 4 bedroom brick house and had to reduce the 2.4 ghz power level

  • Namidairo on 06/09/2024 - 16:09

    A single 2.5gbit port isn't great, unless you were using this as an AP downstream of something else instead of using to handle your WAN connection.

    It'll be more of an issue next September, but something to keep in mind for those intending to go onto those plans.

    They're also freaking me out with the use of ufl cables to route to the furthest two front end modules. I know they're trying to reduce signal loss by shortening all the paths from wireless radio to FEM to antenna, but it's weird to look at.

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