Hi, found these highly regarded new HDD's (at least from what i seen here), makes out to be more value compared to when its Refurbished but $3 more than previous New deal
There is also the ST16000NM002G 12Gbs for $257 but this has SAS interface and not SATA interface
Both are 7200RPM according to this sheet
You can buy only 1 using ShopPay as described by Smigit and you can use Paypal to order 1 by clicking more payment options as described by bazingaa
I have no experience with these drives but they are 7200 RPM from what i know.
Noisy.
I have one in my desktop next to me, generally don't really hear it unless I'm actively using it (just a data drive so not used much, mostly just "idle"), then you hear clicks etc, louder than my WD red.
I think a lot of the "it's super noisy" comments are about running multiple in RAID in a NAS where the activity is different. My case also has some sound deadening on the panels and the HDD are mounted on rubber grommet things, which may help.
I hesitated to buy these for my desktop due to all the complaints but I pulled the trigger on two anyway due to the price. They're not nearly as bad as people say. They sometimes sound a bit clunky when in heavy use but otherwise they're quiet and I never have them go into sleep mode.
Mine are in a Nas and they are noisy. I can hear them through the wall
Got 2 from last order in my personal PC under my desk and they're the loudest HDDs I've ever owned (mostly owned WDs). e.g. Playing a mp4 is fine (maybe I'm used to it now) but when you scan through it, it clicks like crazy.
Beyond noisy, to the point you will think it's defective (but it's not). If you are worried about noise at all then don't buy this. If you need a lot of storage for cheap then this is your best option
Clunk clunk tick tick brrrrrrrrrrrrr brrrrr tick tick brrrr. Thats all i hear when im writing to the drive. Idle is okay but still tick tick tick brr tick . hope this giberish helps
This exactly how it sounds like. I can confirm.
+1 for your username
can you post an audio recording?
Perhaps I'm just used to the noise of 7200rpm drives, or my server case is quieter than most, but I have one of these among six 7200rpm drives spinning 24/7 (TrueNAS which doesn't use sleep states), and wouldn't even know they're there if I didn't own them.
Literally not a peep.
YMMV
They are noisy because these are enterprise workhorse with aggressive programming that has the readwrite head swiping at higher speed to achieve lower access time.
They don't seem to mind.
says I have to order 2 to book out.
Sorry! i forgot to inculde that. I will add it
Use the Shop Pay button to order 1. The minimum quantity isn’t enforced for that payment option.
Is the seller legit? Can I use it in Synology DS920? Thanks
Yes and Yes
Yes that's my worry. They may be old or faulty drives that just have their firmware flashed to show they are new.
There have been several of deals from this seller. People would have gotten pitchforks out by now if there were serious issues.
They also list and sell refurbished and pulled units, so they’re upfront about those ones.
maybe no pitchforks out because there hasnt been any stunning deals for them on ozbargain yet. anger comments on clickity claky mechanical keyboards however…
I’m not sure these with SAS interface will run in DS920 ?
I purchased from this same vendor a couple months ago for my DS920 and went with SATA interface Exos X18 16TB “new” drives.
These are SATA
OK… cause the original post at the op of this thread says “these are SAS interface”. Anyway… sounds like you’re onto it.
can confirm they are legit. i've bought multiple bulk orders from these folks and they are doing good stuff.
their website definitely looks like you're about to be scammed, but their service and products have been excellent and accurate for me every time.
Bought 2, 1 was good other was non working, had to pay for shipping back but they sent a replacement which was working fine.
Did they refund you for the shipping since the issue is from them? Also, do you remember how much it cost to send back?
It was a PO Box so I couldn't save money with a cheaper sender, they just gave me an address and I sent myself via AusPost for $15.
It was for a friend and he waited for months before I had to contact them with only his PayPal email, not sure if they would have paid within the first month, but it didn't seem like it.
Yes I have bought from them and I have 3 of them in a ds 918
Eastbay used to supply the OzB HDD group buys back then.
Can this be used in the PVR machines?
From the Data Sheet:
Best-Fit Applications
Hyperscale applications/cloud data centres
Massive scale-out data centres
Big data applications
High-capacity density RAID storage
Mainstream enterprise external storage arrays
Distributed file systems, including Hadoop and Ceph
Enterprise backup and restore — D2D, virtual tape
Centralised surveillance
ymmv out of 18 x ST16000NM001G i purchased short of just a year, 6 had failed :( . dom 2021 all made in china. prob bad batch or something fishy.
From this seller or someone else?
yes from this seller. they did replace tho. but left me feeling edgy..
Did the seller fix you up with warranty?
Yes because 2021 was also the date of their installation.
Remember supply and labour shortages during… i really doubt Seagate was just manufacturing warehouses of drives they wern't going to sell for years and then 3 years later (cough the approximate service life of an enterprise hdd) they appear for sale…
for normal channels.. enterprise..5yrs wty
Not talking about warranty, but when drives get pulled and changed out to ensure 24/7 365 uptime. After 5 years failure will be a lot higher and drive and any still operational is end of life.
Thats why you see a lot of refurbs and ex datacentre drives sold with around 20,000hours on them (when they havent had SMART data tampered with).
@buffalo bill: yep. spent good 15yrs between LA, Phoenix, Dallas, NY, everywhere else working with DC's. :(.typically 3-5yrs whole machines are replaced, not just hdd.
I purchased 5 drives of the same drives at the start of this year. One had issues and was returned straight away. One failed 3 weeks ago and is going through the warranty process and then on Friday I had 2 more fail. So 4 out of 5 drives have failed so far.
Warranty claims have been relatively smooth though.
Purchased 6 Drives so far from them, 4 of them being 16TB WD HC550 from nearly 3 years ago and all are still smooth sailing.
yeah i'm out
cbf'ed doing rma on these
I have some 12s and they are quiet and fine but it seems the Exos arent as good.
East Digitals definition of ‘new’ is the same as the ‘fresh’ sushi you find at petrol stations that definitely doesn’t give you food poisoning
interesting, do you have a source for this information?
I can personally confirm that they ship from australia, as well as overseas and it can be a bit of a lucky dip… but I've not experienced anything I've ordered from them as new not being such, even when occasionally digging in with low-level tools
Most of them were manufactured in 2021 (when you go to scan the barcode/serial number on the hard drive for Seagate warranty, it won't say 3 years left, some may have even expired if they were a 2020 batch).
Although anecdotal, there are a few comments every time this gets posted of drives failing (apparently their warranty claims are alright though, but losing data isn't exactly a fun process, RAID setup will probably mitigate this if 1 fails at least).
Personally, when I'm buying a product, I interpret a description of "new" as meaning unused, rather than the opposite of old.
Since the Exos X16 line was announced/released in 2019, I would assume that people aren't interpreting these "new" listings as "this drive was manufactured recently".
In short, I see your point… But based on this reasoning, I don't think there is anything misleading about unused drives being described and sold as new, and previously used drives being sold as used.
Remember to use credit cards that don't charge "foreign conversion fees". Even though it's listed in Australian dollars and that you will be charged that exact Australian dollars during checkout, your bank (in my case Westpac) will detect that it's from a foreign source and charge a "conversion fee" to the mix.
Earlier this year, I brought 3 of these drives from East Digital. One of them died within 24 hours of use but it wasn't too difficult to get a replacement, I had to ship the defective drive to Victoria.
I have my doubts whether these drives are really "new" but so far they are working fine, even the replacement drive that was shipped to me later.
yes, this is great advice. I also got slugged around $40 extra by Amex when purchasing a few drives recently…. I would have used another card that has no Forex fees if I’d known. Which I do now. Lesson learnt.
everything else about the purchase was great. Ordered Saturday, delivered Tues morning. excellent foam packaging. And the drives themselves doing great in my NAS.
dont think they are new. I've purchased NEW ones from local retailers with dom 2024 and late 2023
my previous order was shipped from Box Hill
That sucks to get hit with a "conversion fee"
I purchased this with PayPal (using commbank) I didn't get stung. How did you checkout?
Same. I have used PayPal in the past with ED and never had any currency conversion fees levied.
you will be charged that exact Australian dollars during checkout, your bank (in my case Westpac) will detect that it's from a foreign source and charge a "conversion fee" to the mix.
Why would you use a bank that's actively ripping you off like this ?!
Close your Westpac credit card, and move to one of the many cards that don't charge you international transaction fees 🤷🏼♂️
You're being rorted !!!
Use Shop Pay to bypass the minimum 2 device limit. Can order one device that way.
Not sure why I’m being down voted. Made an order for a single drive an hour ago which is confirmed. People have posted on previous deals about this being an option also and having received the order.
Click the Shop Pay button on the product page with a single item selected and it takes you to a payment screen. Don’t use the ‘add to cart button’.
oh good to know the trick thanks im considering building my own nas so need 4 at least
No problem.
In case anyone is curious about ordering 1x, I just got my shipping notice.
Highly unlikely these drives are new.
What they probably are is factory refurbished from Seagate that have had the Smart details reset as part of the refurbishment process. Or "refurbished" by some Chinese vendor with reprinted labels and reset Smart info.
The 3 year "warranty" is only as good as the company behind it. They go and so does your warranty.
But, it's your data and your money.
That's why I use RAID for redundancy and backups of my data. This crowd have been really good for warranty the last couple of years anyway.
gibbo_au- They have been around for 5 years on OZB and much longer than that on eBay and from the posts here (from the numerous GBs) they have always stood behind their warranty and have in the past paid for return shipping as well for those that have need a replacement from them.
The drives I have purchased from them (6 in total over nearly 3 years) have been New.
The product description says "100% Generic Firmware" wft?
Probs should say "Genuine"
despite my prior reservations, i did end up getting 2x of these new (?) drives from them and did a full drive scan, took forever, but came out clean. Now using it, with no issues. Id probably be happy to buy another 2.
but yeah use a card with no intl transaction fees, got stung there but at least i was getting $100 off from CBA https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/839919
What did you use to do a full drive scan if you don’t mind me asking?
I bought a big quantity, so spent $50 on getting Hard Disk Sentinel.
Maybe not best option but worked for me.
I use Minitool Parition Wizard - surface test. This can be done in CMD as well chkdsk /r
Crystaldisk is good for monitoring SMART - but this can be software reseted.
i just looked up what ppl were using on reddit r/datahoarder and this seem to be recommended: https://hddscan.com/
you can do 3 diff tests, verify, read, or write, fastest to slowest in that order. warning; it takes a whole lot of time… days..
just adding onto this; it was 'sealed' into its own anti static bag which added to the 'new' packaging, and was insanely well packaged. Delivery was from NSW.
does this last in a Synology NAS
Been using a mix of WD HC550 16TB and Seagate Exos 18TB in my Synology DS1821+ without issue from ED.
New or refurbished?
It's labeled as New from their website.
CONDITION
New 0 Hour Use Time, BULK
Any deals on 18TB?
Not from these guys.
They have them for $361 which is the cheapest I can find-
https://east-digital.myshopify.com/products/seagate-18tb-st1…
Yeah but unfortunately not on a sale, and for an extra 2tb you are paying an extra $100 haha
you can use Paypal to order 1 by clicking more payment options. I have one of these from previous deal ($310) and still works well.
Where are these highly regarded? In previous threads I keep seeing people discussing high failure rates and questioning whether they actually are “new”.
Had no issues with the 6 I have purchased
Neither have I. 6 drives also purchased over nearly 3 years. Though people are more likely to post if they have issues.
If you look through the tag Hard Drive, you can see the posts for these exact HDD's and they have a very large number of upvotes. 81, 62, 111 just to name a few, so i consider it to be highly regarded.
No issues with mine so far.
The previous threads have literally thousands of clicks - and the number of people posting about failure rates are just a tiny fraction of the total.
What makes you think this isn't highly regarded ?
Altogether I have purchased about 42x 18TB Exos drives from East Digital.
Since the "Send money to a friend" Paypal system years ago with Li Yankee :-)
Delivery is quick. (last two orders, next day delivery)
I have yet to receive a faulty drive. (New and Factory refurbished) - Touch Wood!
Based on past service I trust they will rectify the situation quickly.
At AUD292 for 18TB it is a steal for me!
They charge me in AUD on their site on shopify.
I am not affiliated except being a happy customer.
Good Luck
YMMV
Damn, what you doing with this much storage?
linux isos
That is quick, did you pay for express shipping and did it come from Melbourne?
Standard Shipping.
Unfortunately did not check origin.
damn thats cheap
Bought one of these last year even though i felt something is not right about these hard drives, but it has been working fine so far. Currently running crystaldiskinfo to keep an eye on it. Yes they are quite loud when they are writing data so keep that in mind if you're planning on putting this in a device where you are sleeping.
I got a 14tb unit that is fill with 13tb space taken.
hasnt failed yet
damn son your linux iso collection is off the chain everyone knows that
Same with a 14TB unit. but felt bad accumulating so many isos, so deleted them all. and the cycle repeats. back to acquiring isos.
idk why its more rewarded combined with the 250mbps speed boost with exetel lol
How are these when it comes to noise?