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[Refurbished] Seagate Exos 16TB ST16000NM001G $248, 18TB ST18000NM001G $302 Delivered @ East Digital
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rinzlertaken on 02/08/2024 - 09:22 east-digital.myshopify.com (2730 clicks)
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I reckon it should be okay if you're gonna set up RAID on NAS as there's already a redundancy measure.
very true. ty. had forgotten about raid.
I've had WD reds o. 24x7 in a nas for 10 years
RAID isn't a backup though - please keep this in mind.
I used to regularly backup my NAS but I had to stop as it kept hitting the wall.
I am running a few of them in my home NAS, at end of the day as long as you have a spare drive when you get a failure, and set up redundancy and backups it doesn't really matter.
They are pretty good at warranty returns as i have had one failed and no issues in getting it sent back for replacement
They are pretty good at warranty returns as i have had one failed and no issues in getting it sent back for replacement
after how many months/years? and who pay for shipping back cost
thankswhen you say sent back. do you mean locally? or back to HK?
From memory (and someone feel free to correct me), they have an Australian-based address you send the drive to for warranty purposes.
@Geekomatic: When I thought I needed to return a drive (turned out it was okay so I didn't) they gave me the address to send it to. I didn't ask, but they didn't offer to pay for postage.
I've done it with two of these in the past - maybe 18 months ago. Worked flawlessly so far, although I only write to it occasionally.
Threesome?
Bit awkward with the occasional writings still ongoing.
Depends on your use case. I use these in my home NAS media server. If it all goes belly up, I've only lost multimedia which I can reasonably easily reacquire.
Now if I had sensitive data that is absolutely cannot be replaced - I'd be making damnwell sure I had offsite backups anyway.
Exactly this - these are great for a home server but any data you need to keep long term (E.G not your Linux ISO's, 4K Blu Ray Rips that you've ripped from your
LG BP50NB40 and purchased music.For any data you want to retain (E.G Photos, documents, etc) you definitely want it on a NAS/server for accessibility reasons but you'd want to be doing regular backups (daily or weekly) to the cloud for these + an offsite.
They're factory refurbished so should be ok.
Yep.
I run 6 of these in UnRaid and have for 2+ years (all refurbs) 247, no issues still, no parity drive either because I don’t care about drive failures (besides the cost, extra drive for parity = extra unnecessary cost)
Actually I would rather use these in a RAID than fly solo.
personally - No.
I gave up trusting Seagate years ago
Ive had these x2 in a nas 24/7 for the last 12 months.
Yes
I bought 4 x 14tb ultrastars back in jan for $170 each, and they have been 100%, mine also came with 2 yrs warranty, they forgot 1 of the drives and quickly sent out another no fuss
great business
Not really a sale, imo. I've been tracking prices. ED just fluctuates/adjusts prices $ by $ every day. They never remove the "sale" sticker, for whatever that is worth. This price is still relatively high, historically.
What is the lowest you have seen for the 16TB ? I have been monitoring this one and it was sold out at $248 last time.
~$239 is the ~2 years low, I think generally ~$239-$243 are pretty good. Sometimes I see the price dropping $1 every day but it often reverses before it hits the low. But of course there's a lot of talk about HDD prices being on the rise again, so account for that how you will. Personally I don't expect it to affect refurb prices.
Ah cool.
Cab you link others that have been a good deal?
Trying to grab a few for an offsite backup
If you are looking at the price in $A it will change daily based on exchange rate, I believe their prices are set in $US. Sale prices tend to be about A$20 lower than their standard prices.
Been monitoring prices and yes they are slowly climbing but East Digital is still probably the best I know of with a good reputation.
You're right! I just checked and the $ changes are pretty much spot on to AUDUSD… did not expect the currencies to be this volatile recently…
Thanks for the post rinzlertaken. $43 more for the 16TB ST16000NM000J, gets you the non referb one: https://east-digital.myshopify.com/products/seagate-st16000n…
Do these drives have standard SATA interfaces? As in could I put one in a PC or external enclosure?
That's right just like a regular consumer drive. But as enterprise drives they are going to be much louder, so maybe avoid putting them in the PC sitting on the desk next to you.
Yep these things ping and pop like crazy when they're active. Definitely not a good fit for anywhere you might want peace and quiet.
what part makes it louder than other 3.5inch drives? curious for what to look out for when buying one
7200RPM rotational speed mostly, but generally speaking, enterprise drives focus on performance and reliability rather than noise.
@skittlebrau: ah ok. I've got a 16tb ironwolf pro 7200rpm. Its pretty loud but looks like i dont have a choice. Hopefully SSDs get cheaper over the years
Not sure if I'm just unluck enough, order ST18000NM003D from east digital and DOA. long beep, disk no spin.
Get email to say send back and they will replace it. Later need pay the postage $14 myselfMany people here on Ozbargain have RMA drives from here and ED covered postage. Sounds odd.
I definitely asked questions in the email with ED and they answer the most but just not postage one…
DOA return should be covered under australian consumer law
@Save Medicare: Australian consumer law does not apply to companies who are operating solely outside of Australia.
@samfisher5986: Foreign companies who conduct any business (such as the sale of goods) within Australia are still subject to ACL
@TheFreaK: Of course they are "subject" to it.
But it is unenforceable and no company will bother complying with ACL because they have nothing to gain by doing so.
@BuzzBuzzBuzz: It isn't that easy to do a chargeback, there are a whole heap of proof required now. Took me over 2 months including contacting the financial ombudsman to force St George bank to refund the money that was illegally charged by a third party company that I cancelled the services for.
@BuzzBuzzBuzz: I mean using that logic you can buy $5000 worth of stuff and just chargeback and while I understand it comes down to banks and mastercard, at the end of the day they can say you broke it and its going to be a pain either way.
@samfisher5986: It definitely applies to international retailers selling to Australians via letter of the Australian law, but there's no legal basis for solely international companies to comply as they're not subject to Australian law.
It's goodwill for them to comply.
@BradH13: Yep, us claiming extraterritorial jurisdiction for our consumer law is very different from that being considered legally binding by a court in the jurisdiction where the company is actually based, and therefore being able to enforce it. Here's a useful article https://www.monash.edu/law/news/articles/archive/expert-lega…
@samfisher5986: Someone negged you for this, but you are correct since they are not based in Australia. https://east-digital.myshopify.com/blogs/news/about-us
Must resist. My collection of Linux ISOs needs more storage. It's a battle
NixOS. Don't need anything else.
The Home Lab must grow.
One of us.
What i meant to say was my collection of "Linux ISOs"…
I've been going through my old drives filled with media and deleting anything that I won't rewatch or can be easily downloaded again. One drive died while I was doing the hard drive shuffle (moving media to other drives). That saved me a bit of time and luckily I was able to get a screenshot shot of it's contents.
I'm in need of HDDs but so many comments have said they've received DOA drives. This is way higher than normal.
I don't normally comment (as most happy people wouldn't) but my drive from them has been perfect. Looking to buy another. Mine was a re-certified Iron Wolf.
Yeah, I've ordered 2 recertified 18TB Exos from them in the past. Run perfectly.
Probably more a reflection on Seagate than East Digital to be fair.
Why? aren't these second hand drives?
Seagate does the re-certification of the drives, not EastDigital. re certified drives come back sealed from Seagate, so its not like ED re-opens the drives to check them.
@Aarent: There's a lot of speculation that ED just replace the control boards on 2nd hand drives. No actual 'refurb' occurs
I've been running 2x18TB EXOS from them for 6 months with no issues. They looked brand new when I got them. 250mb/s read from my NAS with mirror pool.
Negative BIAS - people who received DOA will comment or report - these outcomes are normally resolved with ED resupplying. People who had no issues like myself don't normally report/comment.
Considering the low cost, and ED happy to honour warranty/DOA etc - it's a bargain nonetheless unless you absolutely need it next day/week.
Saying - 'no news is good news'.
Recently bought 2 12tb drives from ED. Arrived in about 2-3 days. Both work fine, 0 hours on crystal disk.
Factory recertified means they have reset this to 0. The real number could be anything.
Why pop the bubble ;)
Sorry should have clarified I got the ones they call new. Yeah I know there's a chance my drives are used; but hey I'm willing to chance it at the price.
Its not a chance… its used.
Factory Recertified Product
Probably better to put it in the post.
where are these guys located?
HK but post from NSW as can see tracking
Chullora, NSW? The drop-shipping capital of Australia?
Waiting on a 20tb hdd sale! :)
Factory recertified - should be in the title.
Does "Factory recertified" mean anything but we cleaned/replaced the shell and reset the SMART data?
Recertified products have a different label on them and says they are recertified.
The image of the post also shows that.
Stop using a predictive text program to do research for you and learn how to google yourself.
IRL recertified drives may or may not have a new enclosure. But usually clean of dust, though, at least the ones I met personally.
I am not a fan of their website. It is a standard template with no customisation. The text for free shipping, exchanges and mission statement for example. Just how much credit do you give them for a 3 year warranty.
looking back through OzyB deals, seems that East Digital is a fav on ozzby. so take that as you will
They've had the eBay store for ages, then added the Shopify store presumably to reduce eBay's fee cut. The website is functional and the goods are exactly as described, it doesn't have to be flashy.
Plenty of people have done orders as well as RMAs with no issues; word of mouth gives more confidence than a well-written textbox.
lol
these people are selling drives
i dont give a shit what their store LOOKS LIKE
wtf
does the store work? yes
do you get your drives? yes
do they last the 3yrs? that remains to be seen, i dont know a de lorean
Finally bit the bullet! Now to rebuild my Plex server…
About to do the same for my jellyfin NAS. Going from 17tb to 43tb is going to be great.
Now I just need some SSDs for caching.
I got one lastime. It works ok but it seems very loud?
I have a wd one and it's almost silent. This one alot of clicks and spin buzzing noises when accessing the disk. Wondering if that's normal for this model?
it might very well be on its way out. Do not put sensitive data on it. and run a SMART test
They are enterprise drives, which are usually loud. Most of the time they go in a datacenter where it doesnt matter much.
Exos is the enterprise model meant to be used in servers/datacenter so they don't try to make it quiet, the fans in those places are so loud it really doesn't matter how noisy the HDD. It's normal for enterprise drive to be loud.
I have some WD whitelabel enterprise drives I got out of MyBook enclosures and in the enclosures they put all this rubber trim to make it quieter but once you have taken it out and put it into your PC it's quite noisy too.
Ok thanks. Seems normal then
did not knwo this. ty for update all :)
never Seagate, had too many failures with them during the 750GB and 1TB drives era. Since then have been on WD drives and no failures
this was years ago, and i remember the 750GB model specifically had issues hahahaha, u sure they still having issues?
After losing data, it becomes difficult to trust a brand again. Since then have to stuck to WD. I bought 3 x xbox 12TB game drives back in 2021 for $300 each. Shucked them and it had WD Ultrastar DC HC520. They are serving me well.
yeeeeh. data loss is… well in terms of business. Death. i totally understand your hesitancy.
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but would you trust them in a nas?
(home nas solution) - always on, not a great deal read writes. but who am i to judge that comparatively./