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[Refurb] ThinkStation P330 Tiny i5-9400 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Wi-Fi Win 11 $228.65 Delivered ($223.27 eBayPlus) @ BNEACTTRADER eBay
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thats from the quadro card which is usually optional so its likely from stock photo, not sure if they include it here as theres no mention, also not sure if this comes with the pcie riser thats required for gpu
Is the win11 come with the box legit?
Probably a windows 10 license originally with a free upgrade to 11. Wouldn’t be able to use it on any other system as it would be tied to the hardware… just assuming.
Would be legit. They're usually ex government PCs and monitors. We've bought a few from bneacttrader (about 12 desktops), all work fine. Some may be on old builds of windows 11 pro though, we just did in place upgrades to get certain windows updates to apply.
Yep, UEFI baked one from the OEM. Win10\11 key.
I mean with massgrav does it really matter
FYI the key that came on mine appeared to be a KMS version and as it couldn't find the server it would not activate.
Thanks OP, I'm sure I can find some use for this!
Good retro game set up
Would this work with a new Dell 4k monitor with USB C or would you have to use HDMI?
You'll have to use HDMI, display over USB-C is pretty uncommon on desktops.
Great thanks!
Learnt something.
You want DisplayPort, not HDMI, probably.
Can anyone provide a previous purchase review? Thanks
Not this specific model, but I've purchased a couple desktop PCs from this seller. No dramas at all. Last time they shipped with the wrong power brick (a tiny i5 like this one), but when I let them know they promptly sent me the correct one, free of charge.
They're local; They're good people. Never had a drama, and browse often.
They're quite good. Packages ship reasonably quickly, never had an issue. My recommendation is make sure your monitor supports dp and HDMI. Since these are ex government PCs, it can be hit or miss if you get one with dp or HDMI. I think 10 out of the 12 we bought were dp only, the other two had both.
Make sure your read the description, as they are quite honest with expecting scuffs and scratches on some of their models. The Philips 32inch 4k monitor I bought has a slight scuff on the stand which looks like the previous owner didn't raise the display before rotating orientations.
Ahhh really good price for a P330, I paid ~$100 more a couple of months back.
I really wanted a P330 as theyre one of the higher spec ones with twin m2 slots instead of single m2 slot thats in M720q and M920q which are on sale a lot more frequently. Others with the twin m2 slots are the p340 tiny, p350 tiny, p360 tiny, m920x and m90q tiny. Handy to have multiple ssds and have the pcie slot still. I've got mine running with mirrored ssds and a 4port nic as a router and container host, works great. Tempted to get another at this price, not sure what id do with it yet.
Have you upgraded the RAM?
Not yet, what ive got running goes fine with 16gb, might upgrade if I find come cheap sodimms though
Is this available up to 64gb?
One neat thing about this is there are PCIe risers that let you put in a gpu and yet another ssd, because it's technically a 4x and 8x pcie slot in one. Not sure where to get them these days though - https://www.tindie.com/products/crimier/tinyriser-a-better-l…
I'm so tempted to grab one of these and a low profile 3050, although I suspect the power consumption will cause problems. Lenovo say they support 35W GPUs, but then list a 50W GPU as supported. I suspect a 70W GPU would be going too far. Plus the price is moving into second hand gaming laptop territory.
I’ve used a 230W power supply with a 75W GTX 1650, and it worked perfectly without any issues. However, it’s a good idea to make a few holes in the side panel to help with cooling.
This thing has 130W of power supplied, total. A 230W power supply and a standard board will always supply 75W to the pcie socket, but this isn’t a standard board.
@freefall101: What is a standard board? The power interface of the P330 Tiny is compatible with the Legion laptop, so using a 330W power supply is not an issue.
@NVidia Sucks: There’s a very big issue with using a 330w psu with this. You can’t just supply 330w to it and expect it to work, that’s not how any electronics work.
And a standard board is one that supplies 75W to the pcie slot. Can you confirm this board does that?
@freefall101: You can plug in a 330W power supply without any issues, just like my PC only has a 4070 GPU but is equipped with a 2000W power supply. You don’t even understand the most basic computer knowledge.
@NVidia Sucks: You realise there's a difference between an external power brick and an internal power supply, right?
I've read somewhere regarding the P340 that if the computer has a GPU card then they need to have the 35w T series versions of the CPUs, not the full power i5/i7. Haven't tested to confirm.
Which 4 port nic did you get?
Do you run pfsense/opnsense inside proxmox?i350-t4, running opnsense vm in proxmox.
OP, does this have the pcie riser?
9th gen Intel i5? Should I be looking for more as a replacement PC for parents or young children with minimal usage needs?
My personal general work/office PC is lower spec'd than one of these - these will serve you well enough, and pretty good value all things considered.
Plenty of power and ram for a basic web browsing, emails & office stuff. Only thing you might check is what wifi theyve got in it. I ordered one prior to the sale it it just came with a cheap usb dongle for wifi. Didnt bother me as I've got it running over ethernet, but may be worth getting an m2 card and antenna kit for it it'll be used over wifi, assuming its still USB dongle wifi
Nice deal OP
OP, does this have Bluetooth? For WiFi, is it an external USB dongle?
Yeah not clear
No bluetooth, only external basic USB Wifi Dongle.
You'll be able to play Fortnite at 720p, with low settings around 50fps. If that is of interest to anyone.
Do these have 2x m.2 and PCIe riser?
Power Supply wattage?Yup! May need a pcie riser kit for it. I bought one off these guys a few months back and it came with a x4 riser pre-installed with pcie usb card & a 135w power supply. Unsure what will be supplied with this batch, but can at least be installed or swapped out with an 8x riser if needed.
How would this thing go as an always on Plex box?
Fine. I'm running Plex on a M700 with a 6th gen cpu from this deal. I don't have hardware transcoding setup as all my clients support directly playing formats.
It'd be perfect. Processor has Intel QuickSync for hardware transcoding and will be plenty fast enough for the rest. Only issue is storage expandability, can't fit a lot in it.
I have a dell version of this with an 8500 and 32gb ram which runs all the Arrs, Plex, monitoring and still spends most of its life at ~20% CPU
What's the best way to pop this on my network and use it remotely (as an actual productivity desktop, not as a server)?
I'm familiar with teamviewer etc but is there something more elegantly tailored to this purpose?
What's your use case exactly?
I use my desktop for some tasks with Remote Desktop without any issues.
if you want to use Windows on it and connect from another Windows machine, you can use remote desktop. Works well
But don't expose RDP directly to the world; setup a dial up VPN on your router or something similar.
Thanks guys. Will give remote desktop a whirl.
I was just thinking that when I access Synology in a browser the UI is rendered natively as a web page and is more usable as opposed to just dumb streaming a pre-rendered imaginary screen like team viewer etc.
edit: some just suggested Apache Guacamole - looks good at first glance
Try RVNC Viewer if you want access outside of your local network.
Thank you - I already use cloudflare tunnels so should be able to use even local solutions remotely okay
If it's got a Windows Pro licence, you can activate and use the in-built Remote Desktop application. I'm doing that exact thing right now, the computer that's browsing OzBargain is sitting over there in the corner while I type into my laptop. It's all pretty easy but you'll need a monitor, keyboard and mouse to set it all up in the first instance and to do any incidental troubleshooting that you might not be able to take care of remotely.
You can't beat windows built in RDP but under no circumstance expose it over the web. If you need access outside your network set up a VPN server
I think this deal is great, considering a previous deal p340($399). I'll upgrading the ram to 32 or 64gb and run VMs, servers, nas etc. Thanks OP!
Also note i5-9400 has TDP 65W base frequency 2.9GHz;
Compared to i5-9400T of TDP 35W base frequency 1.8GHzSo likely this will have a better single thread performance for short burst workload. Not sure if the base frequency will translate to differences in idle power consumption. Just something worth keeping in mind depending on whether you are after 24x7 running to minimize energy cost.
+1 for the extra NVMe slot.
I already have eight computers. I hate OzBargain.
Sell off some on eBay / Facebook - even though the low end boxes aren't worth much still better to get onto it just to manage the clutter.
Yes I also have similar hoarding issue.
eBay charges around 20% in fees, which basically amounts to a loss.
garage sale
someone should start a new low fees auction/listing site in Australia!
Do any of them have Nvidia graphics cards?
All of them have Nvidia graphics cards
XD
Will this work with Dell USB C dock, i have this dock with monitor and keyboard / mouse setup, i want to just swap USB C port from work laptop to this one in WFH environment ?
Unlikley to do display over USB C on this model but I may be wrong.
Can I fit 2 m.2 disks AND a 2.5” disk in this ?
yes you can
The 2.5" occupies the same space as the PCIe slot. So if you want to use the PCIe slot then you can't use the 2.5".
So can you fit 2 m.2 disks AND a 2.5” disk, i.e 3 disks?
Sorry, your answer does not make it clearer.
yes u can but you gotta give up any pcie devices
OP how do add on memory upgrades when ordering ?
Not possible through eBay with this deal
Does it come with psu and cables? Have to ask because the ebay listing makes no mention of it.
how does this compare with the n100 mini pc?
Definitely better quality and probably will last longer.
Could you elaborate this? Since this is at least 4 years old used product.
well I expect the quality of this is a bit higher new but surely hard to assess over time
I would think power consumption on the mini is a lot smaller?
yeah I think the N100 is rated at 15W and this is much higher, I don't know whether anyone has real life values though.
I'm reading that the N100 is approx. 8W at idle, though seemingly this could be similar?
can I slap this in with a pci-e sata expansion card to replace my raid 5 array?
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Miss out
Missed out but Im gonna upvote it so it hits 100 :D
Aww i miss out
Hesitate, miss out. Such is my life
You have not missed much. There is always somethings better for the same price at later date when come to IT.
Handful back in stock
all gone
PC arrived today and yes it came with the PCIe riser: FRU 01AJ929 and it was populated with a 2x USB 3.0 card, FRU 01AJ931.
No on board wifi, but it came with a brand new Simplecom NW601 USB wifi 5 adapter.
Union Memory PCIe Gen3 512GB NVME, and 2x 8GB Micron DDR4 1600MHz SODIMMs.
Came with genuine 135W power supply.
Drive came with a fresh install of Windows 11, but I'll be wiping the drive and putting my own OS on.
Same config here - just a note to anyone who wants to put in a SATA drive, you'll need to buy a ribbon cable for it (couple bucks on Aliexpress) and optionally a drive sled since it doesn't come with one. Had to get a sled + cable for 20 bucks on eBay
Do you think you can keep the usb3 card in with the drive sled in?
I was hoping it took a normal sata cable and I could hang the sata drive outside the case but it looks like ill have to go for an usb drive or get the drive kit.
Usb card + drive sled - no chance.
You could probably just run the sata ribbon cable out of the computer somehow. Look up "p330 tiny sata cable" to see what it looks like.
Note that there is still USB ports on the back without the card in (the card just gives 2 more ports).
Alternatively make use of the dual m.2 ports instead of sata if you can tbh@rain-e: Thanks. I want just to make use of that sata socket since its there. Shame it's a non standard connection cause that cable looks hard to find on its own. Thinking maybe i'll have to get the drive kit and then put a sata extension to it so it can extend out the back of the case.
Edit: nvm it's just on aliexpress. nice
Mine arrived just now. I was hoping to find a PCI riser, and it came with a riser card and 2x additional USB3 slots just like @sickburn's post above. Rest is all same as described, except I got a 170 Watt power brick.
I was a bit annoyed to see 2x 8GB memory sticks. This unit is certified upto 64GB, so you may look at getting 16GB or 32GB non-ECC memory sticks to upgrade memory.
I have yet to power it on, so hoping it works. But otherwise, it is pretty good deal for the money.
OP will these restock by any chance? Tnx
Possibly. There is a large order that may be cancelled
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What are the 4 identical ports in the expansion slot? Looks like mDP but I can't see anything listed in the specs for it.