Citroën says it will end the sale of new cars in the Australian market as of November 1st
https://www.drive.com.au/news/citroen-to-leave-australian-ne…
There may still be some deals as listed here
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/855189
Guess that wasnt enough…
Before or after it falls off the car?
What am I going to do with my beret and cravat? They don't look right in a Renault.
What am I going to do with my beret and cravat? They don't look right in a Renault.
They look good in a Range Rover.
could make an argument that cravat is technically croatian. it's what it was named after
C'est vrai, monsieur. Mais c'est désormais aussi français que la tour Eiffel.
Never been a fan of Citroen myself.
I think only the French buy and drive Citroen.
Obviously Citroen are not in the EV race or cant compete with the rapid onslaught of the technologically advanced Chinese EVs like BYD.
There’s a race?
have you see it BYD for EV and hybrid fly off the shelf Toyota doing hybrid only in lower units
Citroën Calls It Quits in Oz
That is because customers did not know how to pronounce 'ë' properly…
It was easier just to buy another car…
i also don't know how to type it.
it
Looks like you know how to type it
Apart from it above, just cut and paste or use your spellchecker…..
rarely considered by typical Aussies
Only the "French" bought Citreon
We know how to pronounce (albeit incorrectly) cars like Peogeot and Hyundai… And Skodas models.
"Can" pronounce Citroen.
I never considered them as I assumed it was not a reliable car
but i think I'm an ass, and you're an ass.
That's odd.
Better than arse.
The first of many euro's to call it quits methinks.
Sacré bleu.
Gott in Himmel!
zut alors
Bravo et merci
I can see fiat & peugeot calling it quits; maybe even a few VW sub brands like skoda & cupra.
The big 3 german makes will stick around though; as will the exotics
……meanwhile 10 new Chinese car companies are announced they’re coming to Aus 😳
And how many of those will survive here longer term.
Great Styling and Features might look great but if the car you buy ends up as an orphan manufacturer, (Like Citroën buyers are going to be) you do your dough.
Better to wait to see if it gains market acceptance longer term. And dont trust any motoring writers assessments. They dont use their money to drive a car.
And while manuafcturers must support cars they sold, it doesnt mean they will carry adequate stock. Like Jeep or GM owners who have had to wait 6 months for a part.
And while manuafcturers must support cars they sold
According to who ? If a Chinese car company decides to just exit Australia then what is the Australian government going to do, realistically?
And how many of those will survive here longer term.
Not all of them. There will be a lot of these Chinese EV cars going to the scrap heap in 10 years.
Of course if a company goes bankrupt here etc….
Plus given our Gov'ts track record with the Chinese govt, we may send them a letter or two……
@RockyRaccoon: So that's what will happen. These dozens of Chinese companies coming over here will just "nope" out if things don't work and the consumer will end up with a car that has zero re-sale value.
Seems like a risk not worth taking IMO.
@coffeeinmyveins: Or they can wait you out while the part never arrives. I think Citroën could eventually do the same.
@RockyRaccoon: "Yeah but 10 year warranty" is what I can hear people screaming in the background (in relation to MG's recent offering).
And how many of those will survive here longer term.
you mean how many poor suckers will buy one, have no spare parts backup and no resale?
"and no resale"
Only way I'd buy one
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At least with Chinese cars you can order cheap part from alixepress :)
And wait 1 month or two 2 for delivery.
My VW Tiguan needed a small non-mechanical part: 2 months wait from Germany.
Just saying …
Stop going to dealerships
Didnt even know they were here…
Hey, come on… to be fair, they sold at least 228 cars last year… that’s less than one a day admittedly… and they were outsold by Lamborghini and Bentley, not to mention Jaguar and Fiat sold over double what Citroẽn sold.
87 cars sold so far this year up to July. Only Dodge, McLaren and Rolls Royce have sold less.
But their sale, got 98 positive votes here at Ozbargain, on July7
same - i had always assumed they were just some random import by huge diehard citroen fans…
No such thing.
Imagine if you will, in a market of 1-1.2 million new vehicles sold per year, you can't even sell 1000 over a 5 year period.
Add to that having only 10 dealerships and 36 service centres.
Then there's the whole reliability and value for money argument.
I hope the sales staff weren't on commission….
better than being on centrelink
Likely were, but they'd be in multi-franchise dealerships
228 sales in Australia last year. Just over four cars per week, nation wide. It's worse than Proton when they died and left.
Again?
When did they arrive? Could have sworn they disappeared after the 80s then came back. Maybe they just forgot to market themselves for a decade or two.
You’re thinking about Renault probably.
Au revoir after 101 years.
Citroen - French for lemon.
They've been squeezed out of the market. Another ally gone.
Peugeot next.
Peugeot will go. Polestar is now circling the drain. Honda is looking on longingly and waiting to jump in.
Very strange for developed country like Australia not have car manufacturing Industry. We depend on imports all the time. Even 3rd world country have them !
Manufacturing is a 3rd world job because of labour exploitation
There are "first world" countries also produce cars, including South Korea, Japan, Germany, America, France, Italy etc.
Italy, aren't all their manufacturers owned by Stellantis now?
Actually it's because of non-level rules by the Australian (most western) government.
that doesn't explain the unreliability of cars made in '1st' world countries
Developed Anglo countries like US, UK Aus are not known for their manufacturing base though. They have financialized their economies to chase the biggest profits. US gdp is mostly finance, insurance, real estate and only fans lol
In fact the country with biggest manufacturing base in the world isn't a developed country.
Not that strange, the vast majority of cars are produced not that far away, in Japan/China/Korea/Thailand
Why bother paying Australian expenses, and higher labour rates, when you can just put them on a ship and bring them over?
It was proven that when the Aussie Camry stopped production, that it was actually cheaper to get it made in Japan and pay for shipping than to build in Aus.
Australia is expensive, and far from the rest of the world. Most developed countries don't have auto industries. It's only the USA, Japan, Germany, and Korea that make cars domestically at any real scale. Every British brand is owned by the German/Indian/Chinese. France has a few car makers, but their biggest one (Renault) is partly state-owned.
and with the USA their car industry only survives through subsidies and tariffs. having a Car industry in a developed country is a huge expense to the tax payer.
It was proven that when the Aussie Camry stopped production, that it was actually cheaper to get it made in Japan and pay for shipping than to build in Aus.
And the quality from Japan is way better than OZ built cars.
feel for the people losing their jobs but lets be frank these where rubbish cars in what is probably the most competitive car market in the world
I dare say the rise of Cheap Chinese cars will probaby kill a few more brands
it is never good to have less competition but facts are we are a population of 26 million people we can't sustain +30 car brands in our small country even if you couple us with NZ it is a market of around 30m people
(I mean we cant even sustain more then 2 domestic airlines)
At least they out sold Chrysler Jeeps…oh yes Jeeps left Oz many years ago.
At least they out sold Chrysler Jeeps…oh yes Jeeps left Oz many years ago.
Pardon?
https://www.heartlandjeepbankstown.com.au/
https://www.jeepartarmon.com.au/
Along with 6 or 8 more in Sydney.
The most expensive paper weight… not really going to be missed or noticed that it’s left the Australian market
Never owned a French brand. But we had DS version Pallas as a company car.
Nothing ever compared to the legendary DS. A fauteuils of a seat with a suspension even softer. Height adjustment and turning headlights.
Some of their older cars were the most beautiful and technologically advanced cars getting around. The DS and SM are amazing cars.
Yep even some middle aged cars of theirs were very good. I think it all turned to shit when they got rid of the hydraulic suspension. It was unique and you really had to ride in one to believe what you were feeling, it was almost defying the laws of Physics. Coupled with nice styling from proper designers like Bertone and Pinifarina, they were actually decent cars by any measure.
EDIT: And don't just take my word for it, a '99 Xantia (a 5 door mid-large normal boring everyday family car) still holds the record now and for over a quarter of a century on the Moose test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose_test.
The Citroën Xantia Activa V6 has held the record since 1999, beating cars such as the track-orientated 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS and the 2017 McLaren 675LT. The Citroën performed the test at 85 km/h (53 mph).
My '94 Diesel Citroen Xantia will go down in history as my most reliable vehicle (this was in the UK I don't think you got the Diesel models here). I put 50k miles on that thing in just over a year. I was doing 820 miles (1320km) a week, on one 70l tank. All done as if floating above the road on a cloud of angels farts. I used to speed up for speed bumps, and be amazed every damn time at how it smoothed them out it was like a magic trick every time. Try doing that in a 911 or McLaren etc. The car never skipped a beat.
Seeya Sh*t Groan.
I’m surprised French car industry still running and making cars.
They are way over complex than German cars. Quality is very ordinary. You’ll hardly find any mechanic in Australia who would like to touch them.
It's got that "french" / "chic" value so they have a market. Others may think they're unreliable trash.
We still see Peugeot getting sold. And even newer (non French) but European brands like Cupra - they have the "Europe" value… which is something MG is betting on, even though it's not actually British anymore.
They seemed to be marketed at younger women who place more value on style, design and uniqueness than mechanical soundness and longevity.
Nothing wrong with that its the same as any fashion accessory that defies a value analysis but I'd hope anyone buying one realises it will devalue only slightly slower than fresh fish.
People will scream reliability reliability but they're ranked more reliable than any modern mazda or nissan yet the mazda 3 is one of our best selling cars
What people mean by reliability is the risk of an expensive repair. Reliability surveys of issues that come up during warranty don't mean much in this context.
In my household we owned an Australian built Ford. It required 3 new radiators, but a replacement was $400. Ford = reliable for Australians.
I owned a BMW of the same age, it was objectively more reliable and built to a higher standard than the Ford in every respect. It did eventually need a new radiator. $1400.
These kind of high cost repairs stay in peoples memory and they go on to tell everyone how 'unreliable' their euro car is.
French cars have low part availability and very few independent repairers. You will need to pay a similar maintenance cost as a German car (or more) for something with a poorer reputation.
Always wanted to drive a xsara because Sebastian Loeb made the WRC edition legendary back in the early 2000's
Loeb is the king 🫡
citron? didnt even know they were here
didnt even know they were here
Didn't even know who they are / were…
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going back to hide under the rock now.
I bet if we got you to list all the makes you know are here you'd miss Iike half.
i bet if they were worth knowing about id know them
No one wanted them here in the first place…..
Good… and I hope the door hits them on the arse on the way out.