Awsome price for 5800x. grab it before its gone.
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 8-Core/16 Threads, Max Freq 4.7GHz, 36MB Cache Socket AM4 105W, without cooler
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You also need DDR5 Ram… :) but at this stage with cheap 7500F and 7600 CPUs.. the upgrade to AM5 isnt too bad but worth it over AM4 for future upgrades
Not much of a deal when the 5700X is $239 and AU stock on Amazon, and the 5700x3d is regularly $220-230 from aliexpress.
Bought ton of stuff from Aliexpress but never thought the CPU's would be legit seeing how cheap they were. How can they sell it for that price?
I imagine it's volume OEM stock instead of retails stock. Mine came in just the plastic clamshell, no AMD retail packaging or heatsink.
It could also be that AMD has a lot of these chips. They're simply downclocked 5800X3Ds because the silicon wasn't good enough, and it's at end of life.
Pretty sure they buy them by the tray and repackage, one of those "Not for individual resale" situations.
Even this one?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007340410749.html
5700x3d AND Gigabyte Auros mobo bundle for only $150? Seems to good to be true.
How do I tell which sellers are legit or not on AliExpress?
Thats the mobo only. Add both and price jumps up
that would make sense if gaming was the priority. workstation loads, 5800x performs better
Get a 5800x3d at a minimum at this point. 7800x3d if you can. Or better yet wait for new Intel arrow lake and/or 9000x3d chips
Arrow late you said?
At how overpriced the 9600x and 9700x are for 5% pump.. the 9800X3D will be crazy overpriced for mayve a 5 to 15% jump in FPS over a 7800X3D
They said they will improve the 3d cache but we don't know how exactly
9600x and 9700x are for 5% faster vs a 7600x and 7700x
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9800X3D will be around 5% faster vs a 7800X3D … OR 15% faster vs a 7800X3D if the extra improvements do help.
Otherwise the 9800X3D will get the 5% just like the 9600x and 9700x did
Awsome price for 5800x
In 2021, possibly
7700’s on aliexpress were $280-290 delivered in the recent sale
For gaming you'd be better off getting for a 5700X3D at around $225 from one of the Aliexpress deals.
Maybe for productivity this would make sense.
Still waiting for a sub $400 5950X
I bought one of those 5700x3d not long ago. Would I have been better buying this ?
100% NO the 5700x3d & 5800x3d (5% better) are the best thing on AM4.. end of life best CPU. (For gaming)
No, only small increase of workload performance. But when it comes to gaming 5700x3d mile ahead 5800x.
I'd prefer to spend the extra $70 (roughly) on the 5700X3D.
Even if you're not a gamer, that 3D Vcache really helps with video encoding, RAW image processing, large Excel calculations, LLM scraping, etc.
Basically near all of the 'other' tasks someone whos shopping for a high end CPU might be doing.
The lower clockspeed of the X3D CPUs reduces performance in most non-gaming tasks (including video encoding, at least for most formats). I don't know about spreadsheet calculations, but AI stuff is one of the outliers where extra cache may help more than higher clockspeed.
Generally the opposite of your conclusion is true: unless you know your specific non-gaming workload benefits more from extra cache than extra clockspeed, you should avoid the X3D CPUs. The things you've suggested seem to more often than not fall toward the X3D, but that's not the case for a lot of user's workloads.
Interesting, thanks for the links. I didnt see those same results myself, but im also not clock limited. My x3d chip custom PBO'd very agressively, thats likely where the difference was.
Fair enough :)
Bro… the only Zen 3 CPUs people should be buying now are the Ryzen 5 5600, the Ryzen 7 5700x, or the Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Don't buy a Ryzen 7 5800x. If you absolutely must get an 8 core Zen 3 CPU without 3D V-cache, get the 5700x for $239 instead - https://www.amazon.com.au/AMD-Ryzen-5700X-16-Thread-Processo…
How about gen 4?
You should only get either a Ryzen 5 7500F or a Ryzen 7 7800X3D imo
Aren't 7600x / 7700x also good?
@djmm: Sure they're good, but the 7500F is MUCH cheaper (for that not much less performance), while the 7800X3D is MUCH better (for not that much extra cost)
So they're not bad to buy, but optimally you would buy one of the CPUs I mentioned instead.
As for myself, I am waiting for 9800X3D to come out to upgrade to from my current i7-13700K
5700X3D, 7500F or 7800X3D.
These are the only AMD Zen options that should be considered depending on budget.
Honourable mention: 5600X.
Though I highly recommend to get 5700X3D. Really worth it especially for 0.1% lows for smooth gaming experience. AliExpress 😉 .
Whats the failure rate on those alieexpress chips? Are they just chips that didn't pass AMD stability requirements or are they essentially grey market minus retail packaging?
OEM/Tray units are not unstable or faulty chips. These are mainly sold to manufacturers in bulk to be used in pre-built systems.
Only downside would be no official warranty from AMD/Intel directly as a customer but then again, processors are usually very robust. I wouldn't be worried at all.
5700x is only 65W btw
Does anyone know where to get a 5800X3D for a good price right now? Besides getting a 5700X3D lol
best bet is aliexpress from what I've seen but you won't get warranty unless DOA? I'm also looking for a new AMD CPU
$300 for a 4 year old cpu? Even if you still had an AM4 mobo just sell it and get a 7500f.