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Just bought 2. I buy this all the time and to me this is a bargain.
Listerine Original Mouthwash 1L $6.99 (S&S $6.29) + Delivery ($0 with Prime/ $59 Spend) @ Amazon AU
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It's gold dust you imbecile
Oh of course how silly of me. I'm so used to coming across colloidal suspensions of gold that I no longer notice it.
They could call it pure liquid happiness, it still has the same colour as pub toilet water on grand final night.
If you brush and use mouth wash in the shower then you get a free golden shower…😅
This has ethanol in it. I go for their Zero version.
What's wrong with ethanol
You don't want to be driving straight after brushing our teeth
You are not supposed to drink it.
@SolidlyIrresponsible: The quantities used in the experiment are based on regular dosage.. it doesn't cover for edge case scenarios
@Sydgun: Regular dosage is 20ml which is half of the bottle's cap. Even if you chug the entire cap of this thing (which is really uncomfortable), this is still exponential decay so will go down fast enough. Realistically, this is ozB, so people here probably do more like 1/4th of cap…. ;)
So unless you drink it…
@SolidlyIrresponsible: https://bevvy.co/cocktail/listerine-shot/vim
Not saying I do but there are crazy ppl out there 😜
Edit: it's just Listerine by name… Lol
@SolidlyIrresponsible: Can't you request blood test or retest? There was this ice cream in Korea that causes false positives on breathalysers (it uses actual fruit, which apparently can ferment and turn into minute quantities of alcohol in your mouth). They actually tested it on tv and proved that it causes false positives (and basically also mentioned that you can request blood test as an alternative in those niche cases as that would be far accurate)
Yeah you'd be pretty tired to drive after brushing everyone's teeth.
Dries my mouth out.
Price matching Priceline
My dentist says this is a waste of money if I go to her once a year checkup and is only good for using at work after meals at best
And do you
a) Brush > b) floss > c) mouthwash?Or some other order! I haven't included breakfast either
Stops my mouth smelling like a cat's arsehole?
I'm not a dentist, but the optimal order is floss, mouthwash, then brush.
You dislodge the debris in the difficult places that your brush can't get into, flush it out with mouthwash, then you do your brushing.
Ideally, afterwards you shouldn't try to spit too much of the toothbrush paste waste out of your mouth, so it can keep teeth coated for longer overnight to combat bacteria build-up which in turn contributes to acidity which erodes your teeth enamel.If you floss and brush regularly then the mouthwash probably has less utility, but it's a way to flush the larger debris out of your mouth after flossing, and imo helps a bit with reducing bad morning breath if you forget to use a tongue brusher.
Due to caries and cavities, my dentist suggested me to use Colgate NeutraFluor 220 Daily Fluoride Mouthwash and also ask the chemist behind the counter for 5000 ppm fluoride toothpaste to brush with.
They're not cheap :(, but dental surgery is expensive and tooth pain is so not fun…my dentist suggested me to use Colgate NeutraFluor 220 Daily Fluoride Mouthwash and also ask the chemist behind the counter for 5000 ppm fluoride toothpaste to brush with.
Do those require a script or are they over the counter?
No script. The toothpaste is over the counter as they have to warn you to not swallow it and keep it away from kids etc. It's particularly for those who have a high risk of dental decay (caries).
I'm not a dentist, but the optimal order is floss, mouthwash, then brush.
The best way of doing things is to floss, brush, wait 30 mins, then use a mouthwash that sticks around for a long time like a chlorhexidine mouthwash (like Savacol; the more mg/mL the better).
Yeah that makes sense but I do wonder how realistic that routine is.
Anyways emulating the order the dentist does a dental clean sort of makes sense.
I've heard that chlorhexidine mouthwash can cause staining, so I prefer fluoridated mouthwash that my dentist suggests.
Of course a dentist would say that. They'll probably also tell you apples are a waste of money too.
My dentist said mouthwash is a waste of money as well. the best daily mouthwash that is also good for gums is salt water.
It was more so because I'm regular and the extra cost doesnt stop me getting the clean, but in the office is difficult to brush e.g. yes u can in the toilet, but mouthwash is much easier, while at home I just brush after a meal.
What type of mouthwash? Antiseptic mouthwash isn't supposed to be used after brushing. It's used to assist with bad breath. Use fluoride based one following brushing to assist with protection from tooth decay.
Have you tried the Aldi brand, dentix mouthwash? I dont notice any difference and 1L is only $3.39
Is this the one where the bottle is exactly the same as Listerine bottle shape?
yes it is
I think it's Listerine whitelabel tbh, same same but cheaper!
Mouthwashs are cancerous and no one nothing…
Is this coming from a professional cancer researcher, or a dentist, or just someone who didn't finish their sentence?
There is some merit to the cancer link.
This is from consensus, a research tool that gathers data from thousands of research papers.
The potential link between ethanol in mouthwash and cancer, particularly oral cancer, has been a subject of study for several years. Here is a summary of the current evidence regarding the relationship between ethanol-containing mouthwashes and cancer risk:
Evidence
Acetaldehyde Production: Ethanol in mouthwash can be metabolized to acetaldehyde, a known carcinogen, by the oral microflora. Studies have shown that acetaldehyde levels increase in saliva following the use of alcohol-containing mouthwashes, potentially contributing to oral carcinogenesis (Jokelainen et al., 1996), (Lachenmeier et al., 2009).
Epidemiological Studies: Several studies and reviews have found conflicting evidence regarding the association between alcohol-containing mouthwash and oral cancer. Some studies suggest a potential increased risk, especially with high-frequency use or prolonged exposure, while others find no significant association (Boffetta et al., 2016), (La Vecchia, 2009).
Cytotoxic Effects: Ethanol concentrations above 20% in mouthwashes have been shown to have cytotoxic effects on oral epithelial cells, potentially increasing cancer risk by promoting cell turnover and mutation accumulation (Calderón-Montaño et al., 2018).
Genotoxic and Transcriptomic Effects: In vitro studies demonstrate that alcohol-containing mouthwashes can cause DNA damage and significant changes in gene expression related to cancer pathways in oral keratinocytes (Fox et al., 2018).
Systematic Reviews and Meta-analyses: A systematic review concluded that while some studies indicate a potential risk of oral cancer from alcohol-based mouthwashes, the evidence is not consistent enough to establish a causal relationship. The risk appears to increase when combined with other risk factors like smoking and alcohol consumption (Argemà et al., 2020), (Ustrell-Borràs et al., 2019).
Conclusion
The evidence regarding the carcinogenic risk of ethanol in mouthwash is mixed, with some studies suggesting a potential risk, especially with high-frequency or long-term use, while others do not find a significant association. Given the uncertainty, it may be advisable for individuals to limit the use of alcohol-containing mouthwashes, especially if other risk factors for oral cancer are present.
Have an upvote for referencing articles. Wish more discussions were like this….
The data is inconclusive, but it helps justifies my preference for alcohol-free mouthwash instead even more (I personally can't tolerate alcohol-containing mouthwashes anyways).
I'm pretty sure yellow isn't the original Listerine colour.
As a dentist, this is a waste of money. Just brush, floss, brush your tongue, and drink water. That's it!
You're better off buying the Colgate fluoridated mouthwash if you really need that fresh breath
Is that the optimal order? Brush first, floss after?
I floss first, then brush. You sweep the floor before you mop
This is my 2nd best mouthwash listerine full strength before bed after brushing
Toilet bleach is best though i used it for a few months and it worked, now I will use it with a water flosser.
"appears to be the most effective anti-caries antimicrobial agent. It does not come without some potential complaints, but it is effective at reducing bacterial load, which is my objective in treating the high risk dental caries patient."
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Of all the colours they could have used, why dehydrated piss yellow?