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Mongrel Black Premium Riding Non-Safety Boots (805025) $151.95 Delivered @ Allingtons

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Mongrel Black Premium Riding Non-Safety Boots (805025) $151.95 Delivered @ Allingtons
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tavk on 13/07/2024 - 10:43 allingtons.com.au (4825 clicks)
Last edited 13/07/2024 - 11:29 by 1 other user
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I was originally searching for RM Williams boots and tried them at a store on Collins Street in Melbourne. However, I hesitated spending over $450 on boots when I only need them for work twice a week.

I found Mongrel boots, also Australian-made, and tried them for comparison. The width (H) of RM Williams matched perfectly with the .5 size of Mongrel boots. Interestingly, I couldn't find a difference in comfort between the two brands, though I may not be overly particular.

My main reason for choosing this path was that the cost of Mongrel boots is comparable to resoling RM Williams. Both brands use Australian-made leather; RM Williams is known for its high-quality single-piece leather.

Additionally, I found an old coupon which still worked after entering my email at checkout, reducing the total cost by 5%. This could be helpful for anyone looking to try the boots before making a larger investment

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  • TextGoesHere on 13/07/2024 - 10:57
    +3

    I have both. I alternate them for work. Both are great and are comfortable. After two years the inner heel is falling apart on the Mongrels but as yet is only cosmetic.

    • poppingtags on 13/07/2024 - 14:08

      Could I please know how sizing compares between the RMs and the Mongrels?

    • Wacky3 on 13/07/2024 - 18:05

      Really curious for the A/B from someone with both - how does the weight, feel, and appearance compare between the two?

    • TextGoesHere on 13/07/2024 - 19:09
      +2

      In my small sample size the RMs run a half size smaller. The Dynamic Flex sole RMs I have are noticeably heavier also. I will definitely buy another set of Mongrels again. My only complaint is the sqeaking sounds they make, different socks just vary the volume. :)

      • Wacky3 on 13/07/2024 - 20:06

        That's helpful, thanks!

      • mudkipz on 14/07/2024 - 00:30
        +1

        So for example, an RM 7 would be equivalent to a 7.5 Mongrel? Or the other way around, RM 7 would be 6.5 Mongrel?

        • TextGoesHere on 14/07/2024 - 10:57

          Given the same size the Mongrels would be a half size larger.

  • donman92 on 13/07/2024 - 11:04
    -2

    No size 15 :(

  • Martyroz on 13/07/2024 - 11:05

    https://www.allingtons.com.au/mongrel-riding-non-safety-boot…

    What are oil kip boots and why are they cheaper?

    • ZuluOz on 13/07/2024 - 11:26
      +1

      It's a different leather.

      Oil kip leather has lots of oils impregnated into the leather, depending on colour and use case that can be a good thing. Main thing is that oil kip leathers generally will not polish up.

  • quadcaster on 13/07/2024 - 11:06
    +12

    Do they come in half mongrel sizes?

  • AftaBargain on 13/07/2024 - 11:16
    +2

    Is this poor mans rm williams

    • tightm8 on 13/07/2024 - 11:18
      +6

      I’d say it’s the middle class man’s RM Williams.

      • Hydrool on 13/07/2024 - 14:52

        RM williams is pretty middle class

    • CptnObvious on 13/07/2024 - 11:18
      +15

      mr williams

    • Daabido on 13/07/2024 - 11:35
      +14

      Men don't look at shoes beyond whether you are wearing them.

      • skidexa on 13/07/2024 - 12:56
        +9

        Though it seems like everyone is wearing them to fit in, especially in the office/corporate environment.

        • serpserpserp on 13/07/2024 - 13:08
          +1

          Not sure why IT corp drones wear them but each to their own I suppose.

        • chrisadelaide on 13/07/2024 - 14:06
          +1

          They last years with proper maintenance, can get decent deals if you keep your eye out, they're comfortable, and they look good.

  • ozvibe on 13/07/2024 - 11:19

    So is Mongrel size 0.5 bigger or 0.5 smaller ?

    • Martyroz on 13/07/2024 - 11:21
      +1

      OP is saying if you are an RM H then go the extra 0.5 sizing.

      I assume if you are a RM G then go without the extra 0.5.

      • tavk on 13/07/2024 - 11:30

        Thanks. Yes, this is what I meant and worked for me. Not sure if the same is applicable for everyone. My fitting for RM Williams is 10.5 H and for Mongrel it’s 10.5.

        • Martyroz on 13/07/2024 - 11:31

          Hey bro we are the same sizing in RM.
          I've ordered the 10.5 brown at the same price as black 10.5 was sold out.
          Peace.

    • OZBargainer in SA on 14/07/2024 - 09:15

      From https://www.mongrelboots.com.au/faq/
      """""
      DO YOU PRODUCE WIDE FITTING BOOTS?

      The standard fitting for all of our boots is EEE. For an even wider fitting, try one of our half sizes, which we produce from sizes 6.5-10.5. Our half sizes are the same length as full sizes, but provide extra width.
      """""

  • Archeinight on 13/07/2024 - 11:21
    +3

    Not Goodyear welted likely, unlike rms which can be resoled indefinitely. Leather lining definition loose, meaning some part of the boot could just be cheap plastic lined with leather vs. the leather completely making up body

    • BargainKen on 13/07/2024 - 11:24
      +16

      At 1/3 the price some compromises have to be made.

    • poppingtags on 13/07/2024 - 14:03
      +2

      Can confirm that the soles are glued, even though there's a faux stitch engraved into the rubber sole haha.

    • Serapis on 13/07/2024 - 22:34
      +1

      How much does it cost to resole RMs?

      My Googling suggests it's around 150 - 250, does that seem right?

      • Archeinight on 14/07/2024 - 13:38

        You would be right. They clean and restretch your leather and then you have a choice of leather vs. rubber soles. It’s like getting a new shoe back

  • seamonkey on 13/07/2024 - 11:33
    -2

    R. M. Temus

    • DingoBlue on 13/07/2024 - 12:03
      +1

      R. M. Bills

    • Phlume on 13/07/2024 - 14:28
      +1

      But they're made in Australia…

  • fleetfeather on 13/07/2024 - 12:01
    +5

    I’ve never looked at my pairs of RMs and thought to myself “I haven’t gotten value out of these”

    On the other hand, I frequently look around at plenty of items I’ve bought as cheaper versions than the benchmark version and think to myself “damn, I should have just got the higher quality thing in the first place”

    (Not to suggest RMs are the benchmark in boot making, but there’s a reason why they command a higher price point, and it’s not because RM Williams as a company are bringing home a high profit margin for selling their boots at 450+)

    • seamonkey on 13/07/2024 - 12:08
      +1

      Sounds like it it can be summarised by something my late mother would often say. "Look Love, we are too poor to buy cheap".

      • Shrynx on 13/07/2024 - 12:13
        +2

        It's the Sam Vimes Boots Theory.

    • serpserpserp on 13/07/2024 - 13:10
      +1

      and it’s not because RM Williams as a company are bringing home a high profit margin for selling their boots at 450+)

      I think you'll find in their boot category they make great margin. In everything else not so much.

    • nikoris on 13/07/2024 - 13:23

      There are cheaper version on many stuff that can last for years.
      I have my thursday boots for 4 years and they're still going strong, and cost way way less than RM Williams. Plus, i wear something unique, something you dont see 50 times a day in the office or in the streets.
      I have some kmart tshirts that have lasted me for years, same can be said for many clothes etc. There are many many exceptions to your 'rule'

    • Gavman on 13/07/2024 - 14:14
      +1

      The funniest Is where ppl try to resell worn RMs for $500+

    • poppingtags on 13/07/2024 - 14:50
      +2

      I think what makes it a hard pill to swallow is the fact that they used to cost $250-300 just a few years ago, prior to being picked up by the private equity firm. Since then they've raised prices every single year, and the new boots don't even feel as solidly build as my older pairs.

    • GoldenDragon888 on 14/07/2024 - 09:10

      Poor man pays twice.

  • 87percent on 13/07/2024 - 12:08
    +3

    I have a pair these, and find them comfortable. I bought them for $90 though about a year ago

  • Signet on 13/07/2024 - 12:12
    +1

    The OrthoTec footbed is underrated.
    Made a big difference in my step.
    It can feel uncomfortable at first but then it wears in and supports your foot well.

  • jessed on 13/07/2024 - 12:15

    Snagged a pair of 9.5, thanks OP! Hopefully they're the right size :s

  • 0xm4v3r1ck on 13/07/2024 - 12:28

    Is the brown colour same as chestnut colour in RMs or should I go for black colour??

  • Duece1995 on 13/07/2024 - 12:35

    Thanks Op. Bought the last sized 8.5. Hoping they are the same size as my RM williams

  • Assclown on 13/07/2024 - 12:38
    +1

    Excellent. I will wear these to the next home game at the MCG. I hope the RM Williams fan boys don't notice me in my knock offs!

    • serpserpserp on 13/07/2024 - 13:06

      They'll only notice if you are in the MCC!

    • GeneralSkunk on 13/07/2024 - 14:34
      +2

      Ignore them, the same can be said about any item of clothing, you can always spend more on fancier brands. As long as the boots are comfortable then you’re good. I’m sure these will be.

      I have 2 pairs of Redback safety boots (one unopened), which i wear all the time (rural property). I usually wear them into the office too, with kangaroo and duck poo embedded in the sole 😅 But they are so comfy, can wear them all day on my feet and never get any aches. They also never slip on anything and are waterproof.

      Supporting Aussie made is a high priority for me. These Mongrels look nice as dressy boots. I’d be keen to try them.

    • azm on 13/07/2024 - 17:28

      Who cares? I like my Ozbargain Hushpuppies Chelsea boots. They are so comfortable to wear except they haven't had an arch support.

  • serpserpserp on 13/07/2024 - 13:05
    +1

    I hesitated spending over $450 on boots when I only need them for work twice a week.

    Well why are you buying horse riding boots for your corporate office work as an alternative?

    • morebunnings on 13/07/2024 - 13:14
      +1

      Am I going crazy, or was the deal text written by AI.

    • flywire on 13/07/2024 - 13:24

      why are you buying horse riding boots

      to go with the wide-brimmed hat

    • frewer on 13/07/2024 - 13:40

      Coz I might get a pay rises

    • rpy on 13/07/2024 - 15:31
      +1

      Dress for the job you want, not the job you have

  • Supercool on 13/07/2024 - 13:25
    +5

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/233740184996?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mk…

    Minor blemish, major savings. I have a few pairs.

    • 87percent on 13/07/2024 - 14:14

      This is the guy I bought mine from..

      • cubestreamer on 13/07/2024 - 14:32

        Seller is closed for holiday

        • stratbargain on 13/07/2024 - 17:39
          +2

          He is always on holidays. But yeah I’ve got three pairs from him. The blemishes are absolutely minor and a great buy.

  • Blondeville on 13/07/2024 - 15:02

    I have worn Mongrel boots for about 12 years (although different style) and believe they are a quality boot for their price. This particular riding boot I have been interested in, but like most riding boots it has no tread. I'm not a rider so need some tread :) I have been happy with the old Rivers Goodyear welt boot but still looking for a replacement that is under $200

  • Jolo on 13/07/2024 - 15:23

    How do these compare to blundstones?

    • competitions on 13/07/2024 - 16:29
      +2

      Bunnies haven't been Australian made for years

  • johnnyg on 13/07/2024 - 15:33
    +1

    Crack a mongrel

  • SLAMMA1102 on 13/07/2024 - 16:19

    Mongrel of a boot , cheap knock off 😝

    • Wolfy on 13/07/2024 - 18:31

      True, they even have fake stitching imprinted on the soles… But after not finding RM Ws a comfortable fit, I got these for $90 (ebay link above) and have no issues with them.

  • A Banana4scale on 13/07/2024 - 19:29

    Is there a women’s equivalent

    • Wolfy on 15/07/2024 - 10:35

      Below size 7, these specifically fitted for women (as per details on the Mongrel website).

  • ZuluOz on 13/07/2024 - 22:06
    +9

    Since any boot deal always has discussion on quality)value I'm going to copy-paste the same comment I posted on the last RM Williams Sale post.

    Since people are going to see these and find they missed out and others are going to dump on RM's as too expensive not worth is etc, as a community service I'll just hammer out some alternatives here but keep in mind that RM's cost as much as they do for three reasons

    Where they are made- Australia
    How they are made- Goodyear welted, cork, steel shank
    What they are made of- Single piece of yearling leather, that means single pieces of flawless leather joined at the back only. Not easy to do.
    No other boot will tick all three boxes, if you want something that will hit two of the three or something your choices are

    Patfields: A clone of the comfort craftsman in G sizes, Made in India, decent soles, glued construction can be resoled.

    Baxter Boots: The Goulburn is the closest to a pair of RM's, Goodyear Welted made in China.

    Mandic: If you can find a pair of the Gilmore in your size left they are made in Australia and Goodyear Welted, the Gilmore Kangaroo is basically the same as the Patfields.

    Mongrel: The 805's not build like a pair of RM's but are made in Australia and their dress boot but they are TPU outsole and are cemented or vulcanised. They have a shank in there, so try them on but they can be had for like $90 and they'll polish up just fine.

  • panos on 14/07/2024 - 07:54
    -2

    Geesus what a load of, RM Williams overpriced tourist boots, Baxter Boots all the way lasts forever, you can resole and resole……..

    https://baxterfootwear.com.au/

    Get yourself real boots……..

    • PeterSnoot on 14/07/2024 - 08:32
      +1

      Baxter boots are no longer Australian made and this is an important point for some people.

      The last pair of Baxter motorcycle boots I had (many years ago) were excellent.

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