New MG Excite or Used Car

Hi l need a new car soon, l am thinking of a new MG excite for around $22,000.

The main reason l am interested because it's about the cheapest new car you can buy and it has a 7 year warranty, if not for the warranty l wouldn't be interested.

Would l be better off getting the MG Excite or a used car for about the same price but then l won't have a 7 year warranty. l have heard mixed reviews about the MG, some say because it's made in China it's garbage but other say it's great.

My main concern would be its not reliable and has problems but then l would be covered by the warranty.

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    • For me it's a morality decision. CCP want to weaken the west and they literally brainwash their kids in school to hate the US and Japan. I have nothing against Chinese people, they can't really help having a dictator for life running the show over there, But I can do my damn best to avoid anything Made in China where possible to not allow them to dominate and become an even more dystopian version of the USA. Whether their cars are good or not is neither here nor there.

      • +1

        Do you ever find it odd or hypocritical that the USA has been doing the exact same thing for over a hundred years?

        • They literally force their kids to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning.
        • They have been actively weakening countries like south America, middle east etc, starting wars and civil unrest for their own benefit
        • They constantly use propoganda to make communism look bad so that capitalism stays strong to benefit their businesses which is what runs their country.
        • Their movies are ridiculously over patriotic, always branding the USA as the heroes.
        • If china or another country tries to push their ways of life onto us, we would see that as a threat. But we've happily adopted several American cultures like entertainment, music, food, politics..

        They are the most dominant force in the world and we have all accepted and fear them. But for some reason, if a different country wants to do the exact same thing, it's very scary and we need to make sure it doesn't happen! Because they look different and speak a different language to us, it's not acceptable?

        I find it strange that people are afraid of china taking over but have happily accepted that the USA already has

    • +1

      typical example: "my 1997 camry is better"

  • +1

    I drive an MG3 at work pretty often, underpowered, stock tyres are awful and can't even handle the underpowered car the second it gets even slightly damp, sound system sucks donkey d's, has had multiple mechanical issues, mostly wheel/brake related (sorted under warranty but still, issues are issues), the seats are super uncomfortable and I actually hate being in it for longer periods, the only pros i can give are the cruise control works really easily and well and the bluetooth doesn't seem to have any issues with dropouts or whatever even though it takes the head unit like 20-30 seconds to start up every time you start the car

    You can get a WHOLE LOT of reliable, well priced and interesting car for 20k.

    • +1

      Which other cars are there for 20k?

      • Plenty of used Toyota cars for that price. Could even get a nice Lexus.

      • +1

        Toyota Blade
        Toyota Crown (Can even get a hybrid)
        Honda Accord V6
        Nissan Note Nismo
        Honda S660
        Suzuki Alto Turbo
        Daihatsu Midget II
        Lexus IS250 / IS350

    • the only pros i can give are the cruise control works really easily and well

      You mean, it works the way it should? haha

      • Yeah I guess, some cruise controls suck ass on hills or are just finicky to use.

  • -2

    Weve got a mg4 ev. Best car ever. Weve had ford, Hyundai, Suzuki, Mazda, and yes a Toyota. This mg beats them all hands down. 7 year warranty. And by the way Toyota's are crap.

    • +4

      MG CEO has joined the chat.

    • +2

      Top Gear's Oliver Marriage on the MG4 Xpower (top-of-the-line, expensive one):

      The MG4 XPower is a salutary lesson in engineering. It's very fast. Two motors and 429bhp mean 0-62mph in a punishing 3.88secs.
      Stopping will be no issue either, you think, because you've seen the beefy great orange brakes inside the wheels. Just one thing: they're fake.
      What you're looking at is oversized covers concealing undersized calipers. Which are not fit for purpose.
      MG, there's more to developing a hot hatch than power alone.

      Emphases are mine.

      Just another nail in the coffin for a bunch of clueless upstarts with no motoring pedigree!

    • Not sure about Toyotas being crap, but the MG4 is a ripper of a budget EV.

  • +1

    Wait for the hybrid Swift to come out. Yes, it will be a couple of grand dearer, but build quality and finish will undoubtedly likely be better. As for long warranties, personally I just think of them being marketing scams. Cars aren’t built like they were in the 70s or 80s now where a long warranty may have come in handy.

  • MG petrol cars - shitboxes. MG electric cars - good value.

  • +4

    how many hoops to jump through to get warranty satisfation?

  • +4

    Another shit post with no interaction from OP

    Excite is a badge or variant and not a model so they mustn't be serious

    • Incorrect mg4 excite 51 is the model, you're talking out of your a**

      • you must have some good haggling skills if you could bring a $39990 drive away car to $22000

        how come you didn't pick MG3 Auto Excite?

  • Kia Picanto is cheaper, and better. Also made by free men - and not slaves of the CCP.

    • -2

      well if they are slaves I don't think they have a choice right?

  • Sadly, we have to import all of our cars because we don't make them anymore.
In fact, we make almost nothing at all. So imports are what we do instead. That's globalisation for you.
    China got the memo, and makes almost everything, for almost everyone. They're a free-market 'trading nation' now. (Ironically, it's the West, especially the USA, especially for cars, that uses tariff walls now).
    We call them communist, but China is very very capitalist now. Private companies. Private wealth. Open boarders. Self-made Billionaires. Innovation. Start-ups. Free trade agreements. Partnerships and JVs with western companies. Every brand in the world (especially prestigious brands) selling anything they want. Technology leadership (especially smartphones, batteries, automation, largescale manufacturing, consumer electronics, etc.)
    This isn't your grandfather's 'communist regime' bogyman anymore. That label moved to North Korea and Russia (again) and others long ago. No, I'm not completely comfortable with it either, but China is a key trading partner of ours now. The largest we have. By far. And it has been for DECADES.

    Chinese-built models registered locally last year grew 58 per cent to 193,433 – moving them past Korean-sourced vehicles that increased by just two per cent to 161,614 units.
    According to Country of Origin data in official VFACTS industry figures, China moved up to third – behind Thailand (264,253 vehicles) and leading import nation Japan (345,071 vehicles). This is only going to accelerate. Chinese car quality is not as refined as the Japanese or Koreans yet. But they are moving at rapid pace and will soon equal or outpace that quality. Obviously and unfortunately some luddites refuse to believe that and will always have confirmation bias against anything Chinese.

    Not all MG cars are good, in fact, some are shit. Especially the old MG3. But still serve purpose they make for good city car if used as A to B transport as shopping trolley. Their great value. Very few choices for brand new under $20,000.

    But the MG ZST especially the 1.3 litre Turbo petrol Excite is very reasonable made(even quality-not just for Chinese) car at very reasonable price. Especially if you pick one up second hand for around $24000 with 10-20Km and that is definitely possible. Or look at Haval Jolion as well.

    Edit- TLDR -MG ZST not bad cars for price. Especially MG ZST 1.3l turbo Excite

    • +2

      We = you rep everyone

      • I can chance the word “WE” to Australia if you like.

        But it is simple fact “WE” don’t make cars anymore in Australia.

        • I like Australia but I don't call them communists so am I still WE?

          • +1

            @Poor Ass: Huh? I never called Australia communist.
            China has communist political system. Again Fact!
            What are you talking about?

            • +1

              @justgooddeals: let me write that again

              I'm Australian but I don't call China communist so you can't rep me

              The only thing commi is the name of the party… I agree with you on that one

              It's more of a totalitarian government with capitalist economy

    • +2

      Back in the '60s people felt much the same aversion to Japanese cars

      • Same with Hyundai and Kia when they first arrived. But in those cases the early cars were not of great quality and they improved over time to be leading manufacturers today, but also not at the cheap prices they once offered. You get what you pay for. MG is still in the early stages of its cycle in Australia. Maybe one day they will make excellent cars, no doubt with prices to match, but they are not yet there. Still very much at the cheap and cheerful stage and trying to get a good foothold in the market, which they seem to be achieving. The next step is to make better cars and have people willing to pay for them.

        • haha yeah the hyundai excel classic

          • @Poor Ass: You still see these around from time to time to be fair

      • +1

        Back in the '60s people felt much the same aversion to Japanese cars

        That was 80 years ago. So may be Chinese cars will become just as good in 80 years and then people will happily buy Chinese cars.

        • It didn't take 80 years for Japanese cars to become highly regarded, nor has this been the case for Korean cars. Widespread acceptance of chinese marques is likely not far away. Consider that Australian-delivered Tesla Model Ys and Model 3s are exclusively sourced from Shanghai.

          • +2

            @sumyungguy: We will have to wait and see about how long it takes for Chinese cars to be of acceptable quality.

            You cannot conflate the acceptance of Tesla into this comparison. It's just made in China but overseen and owned by an American company.

            • @CocaKoala: The thing with Tesla or Apple or pretty much anything made in China, is they operate a supremely capable manufacturing sector. Sure they're cost cutting on export marques but imagine what their domestic only brands must be like? Buying a car sourced from China already isn't a barrier to many consumers.

              • @sumyungguy:

                The thing with Tesla or Apple or pretty much anything made in China, is they operate a supremely capable manufacturing sector

                .. when that operation is overseen and controlled by a company from a Western country, as it's in the two examples you've managed to come up with.

                imagine what their domestic only brands must be like?

                Like garbage if I've to imagine.

                Buying a car sourced from China already isn't a barrier to many consumers

                "Sourced from China" - more like manufactured there, but overseen by which entity? This goes back to my previous point - good when the manufacturing is overseen and controlled by a company from a Western country, highly questionable otherwise.

                Besides, the overwhelming majority here ("many people" if I've to quote you) have suggested against buying an MG dud.

                • -2

                  @CocaKoala: So you're saying brown people are only competent when overseen by white people? Oh dear!
                  Not here to defend MG, I don't rate them personally but many others are satisfied owners.

                  • @sumyungguy: Ah, the old race card and trying to put words into my mouth. I'm a brown person so checkmate buddy.

                    • -1

                      @CocaKoala: "good when the manufacturing is overseen and controlled by a company from a Western country, highly questionable otherwise"
                      Oh dear!

                      • +1

                        @sumyungguy: Why exactly is that disturbing?! China produces garbage that ends up in landfill, and that's true regardless of the color of your skin or mine.

                        Wtf is fob?

                        Looks like you changed the text in you message. Good to know you've realised your post made no sense whatsoever. You could not respond with logic and tried pulling the race card, but that ended in me pulling the reverse uno on you.

                      • @sumyungguy:

                        good when the manufacturing is overseen and controlled by a company from a Western country, highly questionable otherwise"
                        Oh dear!

                        Feel free to counter with logic.

    • Agree, I have a zst excite turbo. Very happy with it.

    • There's plenty of research to siggest that Chinese "private companies" are not, especially the big ones that export overseas.

      They are government controlled… Chinese Communist Party.

      • I think a lot of the bigger companies over there have CCP offices within the company that overseeing things and report back to the party, to make sure its in line with the CCP's goals.. This means at any point the "private company" can be asked to hand over any info or do anything the CCP asks or they go to jail. This is probably why tiktok and such companies are seen as a security risk. they can be co-opted at any time (they may already be who knows) to do the CCP's bidding. Whether its data harvesting, or pro CCP propaganda, or anti west propaganda, they have complete control over anything they want over there and theres nothing the companies or individuals can do about it. Its also the reason why the west have collectively canned Huawei, as its too much of a risk to critical comms infrastructure to have them controlling everything that they could brick at a moments notice if there were ever to be a war break out..

  • Sure if you waive your right to ever complain.

  • +3

    You are going to get alot of negative responses from some very insecure people.

    Suggest looking at the data - VFacts is a good source to get a sense of where consumer sentiment is at. Which brands are people buying - which are in the top 10? Which models are in the top 3 of each segment? etc.

    Ignore the answers without substance - it is a great way to get a bum steer. Your money, your decision.

    • +1

      Which brands are people buying - which are in the top 10?

      Cost of living crisis + insecure peeps wanting to be seen in a brand new car.
      Warranty to seal the deal, like OP mentioned repeatedly.

      Historical data is a much better indicator. Chery had below-par crash tests, pre-delivery rust AND the asbestos crisis.
      Quite a slam-dunk!

  • MG Excite

    Such an ironic name…..

    • +1

      Excited about the warranty experience

  • +1

    Used car if you are a real ozbargainer and not just a wannabe.

  • for 20k you should be able to get a 2019-2020 Nissan Leaf with 40kWh battery that's only about 10-12% worn. If you have somewhere you can charge and you don't do more than 200km at day you should be saving about 4k a year in petrol and then a bit more in servicing costs.

  • +3

    Not worth it.
    Drove it for a few days, was worst then my 13 yo Hyundai i30 for $7000.

    Get a Toyota, Mazda, Honda, Subaru, Kia or Hyundai.

    At the very least, try a MG for a few days

  • +2

    I joined a number of Facebook groups dedicated to owners of these cars when I was looking for a cheap car.
    You get the odd happy buyer but you see a lot of people with all sorts of electrical issues that the dealers have no idea how to fix, wasting endless time returning them to these "dealers" for them to hold onto them for weeks and return the cars with the same problem.
    Major car brands have all sorts of training material provided to the dealers and information on common problems. I suspect these Chinese dealers get very little information provided on how to fix them.

  • +4

    It's a dog brand that I'll not even rent one for a few days, let alone buy.

    • +2

      I wouldn't be seen dead in one. I'd reject a freebie too.
      Principles include not being a bottom-feeding, autocracy-supporting sellout.
      Those who are? Easily identified!

  • @Jackdawson79 helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • Whats the servicing costs? The specs look fine for something thats 22K. If you can get them to throw in servicing, that would be 7 years of not caring about the daily. Sounds like a decent deal to me.

    Also, you are asking a forum where Tesla deals get upvoted in the hundreds every time it gets discounted by a few k, so i doubt you will get a proper car opinion here. Come back if you have an eneloop question, perhaps?

    • Whats the servicing costs? The specs look fine for something thats 22K. If you can get them to throw in servicing, that would be 7 years of not caring about the daily. Sounds like a decent deal to me.

      https://mgmotor.com.au/owners/mg-service/

      Looks around the $300 mark which is the same for my Ford Ranger.

  • +3

    I rented a car while i was interstate for a week. I was given a MG ZS.

    While initial impressions looked okay from outside. Once I sat in it and started the engine, it was all downhill from there.

    The engine was so rough, it felt like it was powered by a broken washing machine. The steering was atrocious, a sydney harbour ferry would be far more maneuverable than the MG. It felt well underpowered, so when you were climbing a medium hill, you felt you needed to thrash the hell out of broken washing machine to drag your tugboat up the incline.

    The presentation of the cabin actually looks pretty decent for the price, however the quality of materials are very underwhelming. But this car is obviously been built to a price so you get what pay for.

    I'm no toyota fanboy, but like many others have said, you could get a very good, reliable, predictable used japanese car which will continue to serve you very well. Well beyond the 7 year warranty of the MG.

    • +1

      My 19 year old Honda agrees!

  • -2

    I have a 2013 Mazda3.
    Love the car, been with it for over a year and no regrets and I do not even think of upgrading it yet.
    Over 23k km done, just out of service and still absolutely nothing wrong with it.

    • Why the neg? I am actually in the market for a car for my son. Mazda 3 is one of them. Any issues with Mazda 3?

  • +3

    If you can stretch your budget by $3-5K, I would buy a 2024 Mitsubishi ASX with 10 Warranty and Capped Price Service

  • Definitely recommend buying second hand which has been serviced regularly, as the biggest cost of car ownership is depreceation. After that stick with reliable brands like Toyota or Honda.

    While it'll be nice having a new car, I'm sure the novelty will wear off after a few months. I see a car as an appliance so safety, reliability and economy are my main priorities

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