Our Horrible Experience with Aunt Betty

In the process of planning our honeymoon, we booked a flight via Aunt Betty. We called them later to check whether we could change the travel dates but we were told that we could not change them.

After the call we went back to Aunty Betty booking screen which references the in/eligibility for a refund should you want to cancel but makes no mention of not being able to change travel dates. In fact, the fare terms clearly differentiate between cancelling and changing so one cannot be taken to mean the other. Furthermore, the fare terms clearly detail the cost of changing travel dates as if it is a valid option available.

As a result of the above information contradicting what we had been told over the phone, we decided to submit an online request using Manage your booking function. We subsequently received an email from Aunt Betty detailing the cost of our proposed change ($340 per person plus a fare difference of $50 per person). The email instructed us to call them to make the date change.

When we called we were told that the fare difference had increased from $50 to $300 per person, so the total fee to request a date change would now come to $1280 for two persons .This huge change occurred in the space of about 2 hours. Whilst on the phone with Aunt Betty we were actually checking online ticket prices on their website for our flights and the price was actually decreasing. Made us seriously question the accuracy and genuineness of the initial $50 quote and the later increase of $300;

Surprised by the significant cost increase (email quote was $780 for 2 persons, phone quote was $1,280), we discussed with the call centre staff the possibility of getting a travel credit so that we could rebook our flights with the new dates. We were told it was okay to get a travel credit but that we would still need to pay the change fees. Shortly after the call we received an email stating that a travel credit had been put in place for a future booking.

As per the instructions from the travel credit confirmation email, we called them to make a new booking with the new dates (note we were not told at the time of agreeing to the travel credit that we could only use the credit by calling them). After calling them we were told that they needed to determine the latest fare difference if we want to use the travel credit and would send us an email once the new costs were known.

After waiting a couple of hours, we called to check on the progress only to be told that our booking had been cancelled (cancelled at the time of giving us the travel credit) and that our travel credit had been made invalid (done without our knowledge or any formal notification) because our ticket was not allowed to be cancelled in the first place. This is despite the Aunt Betty staff clearly telling us that they needed to cancel the initial booking in order to formalise our travel credit. We would never have agreed to cancel the ticket if there wasn’t corresponding confirmation of a travel credit.

Essentially, without our knowledge or approval and without notifying us, they cancelled our flights and invalidated our travel credit. Aunt Betty ’s deceptive behaviour has resulted in us paying them $2,500 for nothing.

As soon as it became clear to us what they had done, we called back to demand answers and we were hung up 3 times by the staff who could not care less (we were never rude in the whole process). When we requested to speak to a supervisor, what ensued was an amazing display by the Aunt Betty staff of ignoring, brushing aside and refusing to transfer us to the supervisor. Despite our constant requests (at least 50 times on the same call) to speak with the supervisor the call centre staff eventually just hung up on us. We called back only to get the exact same agent who continued to avoid transferring us to the Supervisor.

When finally got to talk with the Supervisor he was insistent that we had consented to cancelling the flight. Consent of any sort had only been given on the clear understanding that we had a corresponding travel credit (as mentioned above we did get an email confirming our useable travel credit ). The Supervisor also hung up on us.

It is clear from the two Aunt Betty emails that we have been provided formal notification that we could change travel dates and that we could get (in fact we did get) a travel credit, but they have no interest in honouring them. They have accepted our money, cancelled our booking and invalidated our travel credit which was gained from this cancellation.

Our honeymoon plans are ruined, we lost $2,500 with no booked flights and no useable travel credits all thanks to their questionable practices.

They have no accountability or concern for their misleading and deceptive actions that disadvantage the customer. Due to their deceptive practices that cost us the lost, we requested a refund which was also rejected.

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  • +49

    TLDR needed

    • +82

      Tl;dr typical scenario where OP uses a third-party travel agent offering cheaper flights by having stricter ticket conditions, and gets caught out when they want to change/cancel. Not helped by poor customer service and the blurred lines between airline vs agent fees.

      OP: submit a formal complaint and go through xCAT/Fair Trading to get your money back.

    • +6

      We booked a honeymoon flight through Aunt Betty and tried to change the dates. Despite the booking terms indicating changes were possible, we were told otherwise. An online request confirmed a fee of $780 to change dates, but on calling, the fee jumped to $1,280. We were then offered a travel credit, which required calling to use. Later, we found our booking was canceled and the travel credit invalidated without our knowledge, leaving us with no flights and $2,500 lost. Our attempts to resolve this were met with rudeness and hang-ups. Aunt Betty refused a refund despite their deceptive practices ruining our honeymoon plans.

      • +1

        This is why AI was invented!

        How long until I get a browser plugin that uses an AI-API to translate/summarise posts like that with one click?

    • +10

      TLDR: Aunt Betty are a bunch of (profanity)

    • -1

      Why bother with honeymoon, most marriages ended up in divorce.

  • +28

    Respectfully, is it not common knowledge to not book via third parties? For something as important as a honeymoon, always book directly with a reputable airline that has Australia-based customer service.

    • +3

      I regularly use trip.com now.
      Get flight updates and good service so far.
      Not all 3rd parties are created equal.

      • +3

        3rd party are great right up until the point you need to make a change or they made an error you need fixed. just not worth it.

  • +9

    Did you read the reviews before booking?

    https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/aunt-betty

    • +2

      But the initial price was so attractive!

      • People do, but think oh that wont happen to me.

    • +6

      Did you read the reviews before booking?

      Reviews are great, but you shouldn't need to base every purchasing choice on review sites. Furthermore, reviews should be perused to offer a snapshot of quality of goods or customer service transactions rather than whether you are likely to be scammed by an entity operating within an Australian consumer law geographical location.

      • +2

        When reviews are that shit - yes its a snapshot of the quality of customer service.

  • +5

    Can you do a chargeback on your credit card ?

    Can you claim travel insurance ?

    It seems (from reading your essay) your airfares were booked in such away that date changes are not allowed. So getting a date change for a fee and fare difference in your case is not available.

    You should be able to pursue the non fare elements of the ticket. Airport taxes and such.

    • +2

      Can you claim travel insurance ?

      Did the airline cancel the flight ?

    • -4

      Chargeback for stupidity???

    • +2

      It seems (from reading your essay) your airfares were booked in such away that date changes are not allowed.

      If that were true then the request should have been rejected. Instead they were told it's possible for a fees+difference.

      Then it seems they were swindled into a no-refund cancellation

    • +1

      Fingers crossed OP paid with a credit card.

  • +11

    Avoid Aunt Betty at all cost

    No shit Sherlock

  • +35

    You are going to get a lot of 'what do you expect' and 'serves you right for using a third party'. But none of that is an excuse for what happened

    Make a formal complaint to Aunt Betty (just email it in)

    Also make a formal complaint to ATAS https://www.atas.com.au/lodge-a-complaint/ (they usually require a formal complaint to the company first)

    ACCC or Fair Trading as well

    • +1

      Yes, do this, especially since you have emails about the travel credit.

    • Ozbargain always want to voctim blame and feel superior for upvotes. Its been like this for years.

  • -3

    JVivien 🤔

    • Nah it’s gotta be a pam alt. Not enough bold.

  • +4

    Yeah, Aunt Betty is just a business that extracts margin from your transactions. Their business model is based on you being the one who has to pay the cost of any complications, not them. It sucks.

    Honestly, though, if an AI-generated business name such as "Aunt Betty" doesn't send out giant red flags, I don't know what would.

    • +2

      AI-generated business name such as "Aunt Betty"

      Aunt betty has been around way longer than AI and LLMs. It's just another crappy OTA thats using a business model thats been around for a decade or more.

      • -2

        Note to self, sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet.

  • +11

    Hard to judge this one without hearing Aunt Betty's side of the story.

    But as a general rule, if you make bookings with third party booking sites, do not make changes to it. The change fees are where they make their profits.

    • Aunt Betty just wanted to earn some sweet commissions to keep baking bikkies for the local Girl Scouts. Now she’s gonna be dragged into court or chargeback-ed and down a good few hundred batches. There are no winners here.

      /s

  • Formal complaint then off to the various government bodies to get a refund. Be prepared for a wait as it gets sorted out.

    They’re completely inept, as you found out via staff who had no idea what they were doing.

  • +3

    Aunt Betty is part of Flight Centre. Maybe you can escalate it through them?

  • +6

    Book via the airlines. You pay a bit more but it's less hassle. You get what you pay for.

    • -2

      I would argue this hassle from aunty Betty is better than dealing with Qantas support

  • +12

    When you email Flight Centre, who own Aunt Betty, keep it to bullet points and keep it short

  • +3

    Member Since
    12 hours 22 min ago

    Honeymoon excuse for changing mind.

    Save the most: Cancel wedding!

  • +2

    I suspect what has happened is your fare type could not be changed but others they provide can. Hence the difference with the website. Trying to be helpful the people on the help desk then tried to provide you with a work around. From there the whole thing escalated out of control resulting in you getting back to where the booking couldn’t be changed only cancelled. You were trying to look for a loophole and went down a rabbit hole. Given the emails you have a pretty good chance of getting the original booking reinstated. You might even get your money back. If you do then book directly with the airline. It costs more but it is safer. However, if the airline says the booking has no refund component they will mean it.

  • +1

    I've used them before without issue, just don't expect to be able to change anything

  • +6

    Always worth joining OZB to have a bitch and get things off your chest.

  • +1

    Hopefully your complaint gets you some financial recourse.

    I used to take cheap third party fares to Flight Centre and book through them.

    Nowadays I would only book direct via the Airline, as mentioned change fees are where the complications/cost burns you.

  • -3

    Aunt Betty is generally know as being the worst of the worst. Feel bad for you seeing as it was for your honeymoon.

    Its a sob story and I reckon if you start a 'go fund me' page and embellish the story a little more you could probably make your $2.5k back.

  • You should at least get this on the radar of ACCC: https://www.accc.gov.au/ - the more people that log complaints about a horrible company like Aunt Betty, the more likely they will do something about it. They should also be able to give you some basic advice on your rights.

  • +1

    Isnt Aunt Betty owned by Flight Centre?

    (not that it makes it any better, but just pointing out they aren't some random OTA)

    • +1

      About us
      © Flight Centre Travel Group Limited trading as Aunt Betty ABN 25 003 377 188 ACN 003 377 188 ATAS - Travel Accredited No. A10412.

  • Booked with them right before covid hit and took 18 months or so to get travel credit sorted out.

    Now I always spend a bit more and book directly. Nothing worse than dealing with a middle man when your connecting flight gets cancelled.

    • +1

      Nothing worse than dealing with a middle man when your connecting flight gets cancelled.

      Some travel agents are actually quite good…

      • +1

        I agree! Had a great experience booking through Flight Centre in person and the agent dealt with problems that arose very quickly.

        Other "agents" like Aunt Betty however…

        • Aunt Betty is owned by Flight Centre

          • +5

            @jv: I am aware of that, however my point is that booking via a physical agent means you'll have a direct contact when things go south.

            Booking via a random OTA and you could be on hold for hours.

            • -2
            • @SnowDragon: Agreed. Physical agents are good, I dealt with one for a trip that was supposed to happen in 2020.

              Getting everything cancelled at no cost was a breeze. Calling them up would get me through to an agent (as opposed to being told to email if you had booked online).

  • +3

    I was in similar situation once where flights were cancelled by airlines but 3rd party booking company was not ready to return my money saying that I cancelled the flight so no refunds.
    I was in calls and emails with them for 6 months and after that I thought my money is gone.
    Finally, a friend suggested me to contact bank as I booked flights using a credit card. I called the bank and provided the proof of emails that it was a fraud and they agreed. Finally my money was returned back to me and then 3rd party company started sending me emails to call bank and return their money. I stopped responding then.

    If you did book with credit card, then check with bank. They might be able to help you.

  • I got a "travel credit" from a flight which was cancelled during COVID (not by me). Its been impossible to use it in practice, because they said it can only be used on the original airline, which does not operate anywhere near Australia. This restriction is not mentioned anywhere in the "travel credit" email but they seem to know about it and enforce it when you call them. So yeah, never using them again.

  • -1

    It would help if you used the aggregator to decide what options are available and prices and book through an Online travel agent company provided the pricing difference is more than 40% the airline direct—otherwise, book with the airline directly on their portal.

    I am aware there are a few airlines whose booking portal sucks and they are almost crazy price direct and at that time you need to bite the bullet to book via these agencies.

    Also, when you are making an online flight booking, ask another person to review the flight details before pressing submit and sharing your CC details, this is because sometimes you make mistakes or auto pop-up fill data override some information.

    If there is a small saving of $ 50 then do it directly.

  • So OP
    TLDR

    You booked a cheap flight through a third party provider
    You wanted to change the flight to another day
    Provider provides you with revised flight costs and admin fee

    OP surprised that they have to fork out more for flights on a different day plus the cost of inconvenience to the Travel provider.
    The travel provider doesn't get to dictate the price of the fare, that's on the airline.

    Unfortunately when you inconvenience a business they have you by the balls.

    • The OP's story appears more like:


      Provider provides you with revised flight costs and admin fee
      OP calls to accept revised flight costs and admin fee
      OP is told the cost has gone up $500 in the last 2 hours even though the prices on the website are dropping
      OP asks if they can pay the admin fee and get travel credit instead, and is assured they can
      Aunt Betty cancels the flight and sends an email with the travel credit
      Aunt Betty then cancels the travel credit

  • -2

    Post heading bordering on libel/defamation?

  • They were exposed by so many people during Covid when they stopped refunding people their tickets or dragged on for like 12 months. Have you been living under a rock?

  • lol here we go again…

  • +1

    Email today tonight and a current affair. Will be sorted in a couple weeks

    But yeah, feel for ya…the anger, annoyance of dealing with these types of companies is horrible. If you can afford it, book direct!

  • +3

    Yet another forum poster not responding …

  • +1

    lol and how didnt you know this

  • -2

    ACA anyone?

    • Yes I was getting no response to Qantas until I contacted ACA, once I contacted them Qantas contacted me within a couple of days and resolved the matter

      • +1

        Getting downvoted nice, I am talking about Airline Customer Advocate (ombudsman equivalent for airlines)

  • This is why you book directly with airlines. I've rarely seen a situation where booking with one of these third parties offered enough of a discount over the airline direct to make it worthwhile.

    They can be ok if your plans do not change at all (I did use Aunt Betty once with no problems) but as soon as any complications arise it's gets difficult and expensive.

    • +1

      I just returned from a holiday. Trip.com was $800, airline direct was $1,050. Multiply by 5 people. The savings were definitely worth the risk and I had no problems in the end.

    • The advantage of a (good) third party agent is they can book your trip with multiple providers (airlines, hotels, cruises, tours, etc), then redo it as required if something needs changing. If you do them all separately, and one provider cancels or can’t supply, you have no leverage to change the other providers to suit.

    • I've saved $800pp with STA before.

  • If there is any circumstance where you would need to change a travel booking, always book direct.

    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know they are cheaper because they make their money on the changes and missed flights.

  • +1

    Wow, registering for an account just to rant

    • +1

      I think this one was worthy of a rant. Aunt Betty cancelled the flight and sent an email with travel credit, and then cancelled the travel credit because they'd cancelled the flight.

  • -1

    Never understood any people still book with travel agents in 2024 when you can book directly with airlines with such ease.

  • Something similar happened to us start of the year, we booked the flights via Aunt Betty, then wanted to make name correction. They gave all reasons for 3 months, and when the travel date was near, we contacted the airline. Thats when we got to know the real story, that Aunt Betty never booked our flights with the airline. They just took our money and had put tickets on hold. Worst of the worst platform. STAY AWAY

  • +2

    Hey OP, I'm sure you're going through a stressful time. I hope creating an account here to vent helped.
    I'm sure other things will go wrong too, just prepping you.

    It doesn't matter how badly things go, eventually you'll can maybe laugh about it, or at least shrug it off.
    This seems the most important thing in your life now, but actually it's what comes afterwards that is.

    Deep breathes, then move on.

  • +1

    Yeah, I had issues with them last year. I found their call centre useless and they kept hanging up on me. I left a complaint on Trust Pilot and Dan from BYOJet (Aunt Betty's sister company), who actually seems to have the authority to make changes/refunds (unlike the call centre) fixed the problem. Maybe try the complaining on Trust Pilot route.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/793413

  • +1

    Chargeback…

  • -1

    Basically only use aggregators like Aunt Betty if you want the cheapest price and waive all rights to change flight details.

    I thought this was widely known.

  • +1

    This wouldn't have happened if OP joined Ozbargain before booking their flights.

  • +20

    Hi Vivien N,

    My name is Brad, I am the customer leader at Aunt Betty. We dont normally respond on Ozbargain (or haven't for so long that our original accounts are inactive anyway) but I was made aware of this and wanted to get back to you and address some of the concerns you have posted publicly.

    In regard to whether the booking is changeable or not, this is dependent on the fare rules of your ticket. These are linked on the payment page and must be agreed to before making a booking. As these rules are set by the airline we are pretty much locked in to them as soon as booking is made and a contract is formed. With this in mind, the option to change should never have been presented to you as the fare rules for your booking deem this fare non-changeable and non-refundable. This was an error by the agent handling the booking for which I apologise for. Along with this, the option to put your flight into a credit (which is effectively removing the current flights in the itinerary and leaving the reservation open until you are ready to make change) should also not have been an option due to the applicable fare rules. Since the agent did remove the flights we needed to contact the airline to get them reinstated so you weren't flightless, we also took the opportunity at this stage to ask for a waiver to change the dates of the flights. Although this is not normally granted, we are fortunate that they allowed this so we can assist with your original request now as you would have seen by the email sent detailing the change costs.

    Another point you raise is the price changing. This can unfortunately happen as airline inventory and therefore pricing is dynamic. The flight can appear to be cheaper in the lower booking classes but another fare rule the airline sets for changes is that the new fare must be equal or higher (base fare, not total of base fare and taxes) than the original. Although there was cheaper fares in market we could not use them, we had to raise the booking class higher in order to make this a valid change. This is unfortunately standard for most fare rules no matter which airline you book with.

    In summary, I accept this was not handled professionally and for that I am sorry. Booking your honeymoon should be an exciting time and not a stressful one and we have not made this as simple as it could have been. As a gesture of goodwill I have asked our agents to waive our change fee, so it will only be the airlines fee and the fare and tax difference that needs to be paid. Ill send an email to you confirming this also and have one of my senior agents handle your case to ensure everything from here goes smoothly. Although this was obviously not an ideal situation this has all lead to you being able to change your flight in the end which is a positive to come from this. If you have any questions please just reply to my email. Happy to answer any questions or concerns from anyone else viewing this on here also (please bear with response times as I wont be logged in constantly).

    Kind regards, Brad
    Aunt Betty Travel

    • Hi Brad,

      Commenting on OzBargain as an Aunt Betty company rep is brave and hopefully an amicable outcome has been salvaged.

      In saying that, I’d like to see more pudding flavours in Coles.

    • Nice one Brad. You should have a word to your Aunt Betty though and tell her to pull her head in

  • +1

    Well, Aunt Betty does something good

    I assume all the people who were 'its all OPs fault' and 'serves OP right' understand that its been admitted to be a fault by the service provider and the OP did not have control over it and did little wrong

    • Would they have had the same outcome if this didn't go viral on Ozbargain?

      • Hopefully. The agent stuffed up and the OP had plenty of proof. Might have taken much longer to resolve though.

  • I can’t believe that just happened? Kudos to Brad

  • you should have pick aunt jenny instead

  • +2

    Hmmm… OP's account is now deactivated…

    • +1

      Haha, they got what they wanted out of Ozbargain I guess

  • OP just fisted us all with no lube

  • thread closed, OP disabled account

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