Living with COVID and Exercising

cm712 on 04/07/2024 - 17:24

Hi Guys,

I'll preface this with saying I am very active, and I got covid at the start of the year. What is annoying is I have not really been able to get back into cycling/training as I still cannot do any high intensity training due to chest pain. My GP referred me, and I spoke to a cardiologist 4 weeks after I had covid, they did a stress test and told me it’s too early to tell if its long covid and everything looks fine.
Currently I have no confidence in my local GP. I am contemplating just going back to training and living with the pain.

Any advice would be helpful.

Health & Beauty COVID-19

Comments

  • zathras on 04/07/2024 - 17:48
    +9

    Listen to your body, you know your body better than anyone else.
    Don't go too hard, too fast. Pain means ease off.

    If the stress test didn't find anything I wouldn't worry yourself too much though.
    The human body is wonderful at repairing itself a lot of the time.

  • ozhunter on 04/07/2024 - 17:55
    +7

    myocarditis???

    Currently I have no confidence in my local GP

    how about the cardiologist you spoke to?

  • Ghost47 on 04/07/2024 - 17:58
    +10

    Get a second opinion, there are too many dud GPs out there. Could the chest pain be coming from your lungs if the cardiologist said it all looks ok?

  • garetz on 04/07/2024 - 18:09
    +6

    Are you serious ? If you have myocarditis and go back to training it wont be just pain you will have to worry about, you could have a heart attack and die.
    pain is usually just a symptom, its your body telling you something is wrong.

    It seems like you aren't treating this as seriously as you need to be doing.

    • cm712 on 04/07/2024 - 20:53

      I have been taking it easy for the last 6 months, I've also had the last 5 week off completely.

      • morse on 05/07/2024 - 03:06
        +2

        Maybe go back to cardiologist. You said you went 4 weeks after, but not recently? If you’ve been impacted for 6 months it’s a different story. Also see if there are any long COVID public clinics in your area.

  • Ocker on 04/07/2024 - 19:04
    +4

    Maybe see a respiratory specialist. Depending on how bad you had Covid it may have damaged your lungs (scar tissue) and this is restricting your breathing. (based on experience)

  • coffeeinmyveins on 04/07/2024 - 19:08
    +6

    chest pain

    stress test

    I'd be asking for an x-ray at a minimum. How do you know they're linked?

    Source: Had chest pain, ended up being a 15cm tumour

    Generally doctors don't mess around when a symptom is "chest pain"

    • unco on 05/07/2024 - 02:47
      +2

      Agree with this. I saw 3 GP’s recently for bad chest pain when coughing. Last one referred me for an X-ray and lung function test and the X-ray revealed I actually had 3 fractured ribs.

      • ATTS on 06/07/2024 - 20:05

        Oh wow, jsut curious did ur chronic cough cauase the fractured ribs?

    • ZestyLemonade on 05/07/2024 - 10:43
      +2

      They problem is a usual GP would go through everything you mentioned.

      The only thing they can point at is a viral infection that should have long subsided e.g. covid, but the more realistic scenario could be some autoimmune or even a neurological disease which is caused by the vaccine.

      The OP is likely to already have ruled out such things as cancer too, if their GP was actually doing the right thing.

      • coffeeinmyveins on 05/07/2024 - 11:15
        +3

        OP said the specialist did a stress test, which won't offer any diagnosis of cancer whatsoever.

        Unless OP omitted scans/tests that were done otherwise.

        They problem is a usual GP would go through everything you mentioned.

        No, they won't. Most GPs are looking for colds and other infections. It takes someone paying attention to listen to keywords and symptoms and then get proper testing done.

        • ZestyLemonade on 05/07/2024 - 11:43
          +1

          Damn, my local GP must be above the average then.

          No doubt, he recommended to be careful with the vaccines too, told me it was my choice.

      • ATTS on 06/07/2024 - 20:08

        Which vaccine would likely cause those auto immune or neurological disease you mentioned? Also would it be like a low chance of happening? Curious cause my gp advice is keep getting covid vaccines

  • JIMB0 on 04/07/2024 - 19:44
    +3

    Were you vaxed?

    • cm712 on 04/07/2024 - 19:53
      +3

      Yeah had 4

      • EightImmortals on 05/07/2024 - 08:02
        -2

        And did you have chest pains before you had them? Just checking for the sake of science.

          • EightImmortals on 05/07/2024 - 10:05

            @FezMonkey: And quoting formal logical rules on an internet forum is even more lame. And for the record I made no assertion, I simply asked a question. But hey where do you draw the line? If MILLIONS of people all around the world are now dealing with cardiac abnormalities after taking action 'x' then maybe action 'x' IS to blame after all? Reasonable people only have to be 51% convinced. And yes, I know what e-wrath comes from questioning the false Gods of the world and I don't care. If it helps the OP figure out what he's dealing with and to find the appropriate help then it's worth it. I agree with everyone who advised him not to push the physical envelope until the issue is resolved.

            • singlemalt72 on 05/07/2024 - 10:48
              +2

              @EightImmortals: If people who spend lots of time at the beach eat more ice creams and get more skin cancer than people who spend time inside and eat less ice creams then surely ice cream is causing skin cancer.

              Stop and think a moment - Most people have had Covid, most people many times. Covid is PROVEN to cause lung and heart damage in some people (amongst other things) - yet your long bow-sting is the vaccine every time.

              • ZestyLemonade on 05/07/2024 - 11:44
                +1

                @singlemalt72:

                Stop and think a moment - Most people have had Covid, most people many times. Covid is PROVEN to cause lung and heart damage in some people (amongst other things) - yet your long bow-sting is the vaccine every time.

                I am not sure if people can still state the current variants of covid still damage the heart and lungs since we don't even have any recommendations about masking anymore.

                I think you are actually spreading misinformation.

                • singlemalt72 on 05/07/2024 - 13:23

                  @ZestyLemonade: That long bow keeps drawing - masking requirements were required primarily during the period that vaccination was not available - with vaccination, though it does not stop the contagion, it measurable and significantly decreases symptoms in most patients. Again, fact. https://www.heart.org/en/news/2024/01/16/how-covid-19-affect…

                  Covid is still highly prevalent in the community and can still cause long-term damage and those with existing and congenital conditions of heart and lung disease are still asked to mask up in public for their own protection. I was infectious 2 weeks ago with Covid so of course, for the protection of others, I wore a mask when I was required to be in public, but stayed at home as much as I could, you know, because that is the minimum any smart person would do.

                  • ZestyLemonade on 05/07/2024 - 23:27

                    @singlemalt72: Yet again you posted misinformation.

                    Covid is no longer that beast that is mentioned and that is old science.

                    Viruses mutate all the time and it is now regarded as no more dangerous than the common cold.

                    Stop quoting old science and using it as a veil for downvotes.

                    Get with the science.

                  • ZestyLemonade on 06/07/2024 - 08:48

                    @singlemalt72: Look even if covid did damage the heart and lungs, that could only apply to the Wuhan and early variants. Variants from Omnicron onwards have been shown to have very mild effects, less than the vaccine, because you have to remember that a virus that kills its host is not going to survive for long.

                    Furthermore, take a look at how people are travelling during peak hours. When you go onto a train and someone coughs and sneezes with covid, does everyone actually take out a mask? Think about it, how many people would be suffering heart and lung damage as a result. I will note the air inside a train cabin is constantly recirculated rather than blown out and refreshed. Therefore, the numbers of people coming into contact with the new covid variants would be high, but from what you are stating, you could infer that you mean that people not wearing masks are stupid or they are some sado-masochists. The people aren't stupid, that website is providing misinformation. Ask yourself what do you see in reality!

                    You are basically gaslighting the majority of people and are out of touch with actual reality. Plain and simple the covid that the website refers to cannot be the same modern covid variants that we actually experience.

                    Therefore, the community, especially those that are informed on ozbargain, should pressure the institutions and companies that are funded by big pharma to remove that misinformation from their websites as it is doing more harm than it is doing good.

                    I am sure you have seen that tiktok video circulating around about nurses and doctors not wearing masks with this content. Found it guys, re-edited the source.

            • FezMonkey on 05/07/2024 - 10:53
              +2

              @EightImmortals:

              If MILLIONS of people all around the world are now dealing with cardiac abnormalities after taking action 'x' then maybe action 'x' IS to blame after all?

              The number of people still doesn't make it true.
              If it's your hypothesis that X causes Y, then you need to demonstrate it. Not just assert the exact fallacy I linked above. Because you could make that same flawed argument for anything.
              - chest pains after switching to sugar free drinks
              - chest pains after trying a new takeaway shop
              - chest pains after joining OzBargain.

              It's all meaningless and even if one came after the other it does not in any way indicate that one caused the other.
              If you're not careful you can fall into flawed reasoning like this so it helps to be aware that it's a common fallacy people unintentionally engage in.

            • coffeeinmyveins on 05/07/2024 - 11:17

              @EightImmortals:

              But hey where do you draw the line? If MILLIONS of people all around the world are now dealing with cardiac abnormalities after taking action 'x' then maybe action 'x' IS to blame after all

              How many of them would have had those cardiac abnormalities regardless of the vaccine?

              You're assuming a 1 to 1 correlation between "got vaccine" and "has pain" to talk up your opinion that VaCiNe BaD.

              You're also ignoring how many of those millions of people would have died if they didn't get the vaccine, but don't let that get in the way.

              And yes, I know what e-wrath comes from questioning the false Gods of the world

              You mean science ? What are you even on about?

        • cm712 on 05/07/2024 - 12:43
          +1

          No chest pain before and during covid, only after.

    • Stuj on 05/07/2024 - 07:02
      +1

      Although im personally pro vax - Relevance ? That’s up there with “what were you wearing ?”

      • EightImmortals on 05/07/2024 - 08:01
        -3

        Yes, wearing a blue shirt for the last 3 years has defiantly been linked to an increase in heart issues. Whatever you do, don't wear blue socks at the same time.

  • Tee Rex Arms on 04/07/2024 - 20:22
    +1

    What’s your spirometer result?

  • Iwantthebestprice on 04/07/2024 - 20:47
    +3

    Go to a specialist. I had an issue that multiple GPs couldn’t figure out or told me to rest etc, 4th time I demanded the GP refer me to a specialist, he did and 2 weeks later specialist found the issue, booked in for surgery and problems will be resolved by August.

    You pay for what you get in healthcare unfortunately.

  • DingoBilly on 04/07/2024 - 22:11
    +3

    Definitely get a second opinion. I had a similar issue where it wasn't clear what was causing a chronic issue, and eventually through multiple specialists was found.

    In my case was unlikely to be caused by covid but definitely was easy to suggest as long covid and not do anything further about.

  • Wiadro on 04/07/2024 - 23:07
    +2

    just send it bro

    • HardQuiz on 05/07/2024 - 06:48

      Send what?

      • samyall on 05/07/2024 - 08:08
        +3

        it

  • scotty on 05/07/2024 - 09:45
    +2

    Caught COVID near the end of 2022 and that really affect my runs — increased resting heart rate, and HR easily jumps to zone 3/4 doing easy pace. Went to GP and did an ECG test but nothing conclusive so I ended up just dialing way down on the training + lots of breaks. Took almost a year to shake it off, and now gradually build up the miles again. VO2Max took a huge hit, but I'm just glad to be back at running again (at a slower pace).

    • cm712 on 05/07/2024 - 12:41

      I am glad to hear you have recovered gives me hope, I think I only get chest pain after v02max efforts.

  • ZestyLemonade on 05/07/2024 - 10:39
    -1

    By the way, there is no scientific evidence that long covid even exists. That's why everyone is jumping to vaccine damage because other than that, it's really just a stab in the dark.

  • ZestyLemonade on 05/07/2024 - 12:12
    +2

    It just occurred to me that foreign trained doctors are better than locally trained ones…

    For example, I already know that there is basically one lesson on vaccines and they don't teach about anything further about vaccines, whilst in countries like Singapore and India there is a whole module on the topic. Notably India probably has detailed lectures about Bill Gates' terrible vaccine program that led to many girls being traumatised. Singapore is just world class, can't fault it but not sure why their program is that much better.

    It's really a lottery when it comes to finding a GP, and whether they know their material.

    This inequity related to access to good GPs is why Australia is falling behind and the whole system is a mess.

    Maybe check out a different GP? You do need a different opinion. Ask for their credentials. You can't go wrong.

    The thing is my local GP does everything from cancer screening to everything under the sun. He even will cut the mole and send it off to the lab to test, whilst bulk billing it.

    The Local GP doesn't just do cold and flus… What the heck, is that what a majority of aussie doctors do? I don't get it, but that's the impression I get from coffeeinmyveins. How come there is this divide in the health care system?

    Weird. Are your local GPs that bad? If so, why is the Australian education system so bad?

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