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Samsung 830 512GB SSD $399 at MSY
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cheaparse on 08/11/2012 - 23:57 msy.com.au (1351 clicks)
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amything mores just excessive at this price point
That's painting with a broad brush, don't you think? Some people might require it, even if most people probably don't. If the people who require it, or hell, just want it, are prepared to foot the costs, then by all means they can do so. And technically a computer would only need 64GB for boot files.
That's painting with a broad brush, don't you think?
That pretty much describes most comments on OzB.
I tend to agree with CHEUJC, most users could easily make do with <120GB for their SSD.
Whilst there are a few notable exceptions, these are in the minority…anything more is just overkill at this point in time for most users, regardless of how people try to justify it! ;)
That's true, but it seemed to me that CHEUJC was dismissing the product, solely on his/her own circumstances. It's usually best to preface such a statement with 'In my opinion' or 'For me…', since CHEUJC's post seemed more a statement of (perceived) objective fact, as opposed to his/her subjective opinion. Perhaps I'm being too cynical, but… shrug
As you say, the majority (myself included) don't need such a large amount of SSD storage, but that generally means that such a product isn't targeted at the mass market.
An SSD is at its prime @ 256GB, anything lower is customized and cannot peak, anything higher makes it heavier in terms of power…
any link to back this up?
Pretty much any benchmark for SSDs will do; generally the 256GB's are faster than the 120GB's
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/532?vs=533I'll shove a link up…., in a minute !
Nek minit…
This is fairly common knowledge, it's to do with the memory layout.
As somebody else has inferred, you're pretty much splitting hairs based on synthetic benchmarks…it wouldn't be the deciding factor in a purchase for anyone with half a brain. ;)
interdasting… ive never knew this about ssd cards.
I didn't know about this so would like to read further about this :)
Tablets and ultrabooks?
Yeah, I have a 120GB HDD, and with a few games (ME3, BF3) and apps (MS Office Pro Plus) I'm already using 90 GB of HDD space.
Of course, installing and moving apps to a conventional HDD I can free up even more space, but whats the point of doing that when the SSD speeds things up?
Guessing you're not a big gamer. Heck, I'm not much of a gamer myself - only have a few major recent titles installed, and that's enough to make my 128GB SSD look small. Point was driven home a couple of weeks ago when I bought into the Need for Speed - The Rush deal and the Amazon downloader gave an inadequate space warning and prompted for another drive.
the maximum speed limit in all states in aus is 110km/h, why buy/build cars that can go over that speed?
Considering my 63kW yaris can hit that (not up a steep hill lol but flat can do 130-40km/h), the question is why do we need passenger cars that have more power than say 80-90kW (rounded up 1/3 more power for larger/heavier car, fully loaded and ok up a hill). What car do you drive? If you answer involves a car that can go above 110km/h, then that's why people get large SSDs.
Ok, just realised your comment could have been related to CHEUJC's pic, if so then this comment is adding to your comment….
Never publicly admit that you have a 1.3L Yaris.
Yeah - Bill Gates once agreed with you CHEUJC - he reckoned nobody would ever need more than 64k RAM…
I think you'll find that mythology says it was 640k: http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1997/01/1484
But meh, when you have to use kilo, mega, giga, terra, peta, exa, zetta, yotta to measure your wealth…
i have been using an 80gb for almost four years
and i cant express how painful it is. a 120gb is not going to make much difference
Right now my 80gb stores as minimal stuff as possible
but even then is only ever got 1gb free
Considering its so much easier to save to default C: drive folders, having a larger capacity would just save you time and make your life alot easier.
Additionally, i am currently forced to save my steam games to my Caviar Black, which is painfully slow to load games.
My game library is 350gb+ so a 256gb ssd isnt even enough to store my games for maximum load times
Considering its so much easier to save to default C: drive folders, having a larger capacity would just save you time and make your life alot easier.
Honestly, I'm sorry to say that IME that's what it always comes down to…convenience vs forethought. I'm just not a fan of throwing money at problems to solve them all of the time, sometimes a bit of simple planning can do the trick!
That said, I'm not much of a gamer nowadays; but I can appreciate that some users do have different needs. ;)
A good example. Another example would be laptop users that only have 1 drive space (as they mostly typically do). This is my situation. I want as much space as possible with a laptop I intend on filling up slowly rather than quickly.
You can have your steam library sitting on your caviar black, then copy them to C:\steam (or whatever) when you want to play them.
It's annoying. In fact, it's one of steams big faults that it can't cope with games installed to two places. But my point is that I doubt you play all 350gb of your game library :) I know I dont play more than a few games at a time!
Why would you want a noisy HDD spinning up everytime you want to run a program that's on it?
$40 cheaper than the cheapest on StaticIce seems pretty damned good to me.
Pretty good price =)
Hope they have stock !
Is their Samsung SSD 256GB the cheapest available? I've been considering it but the prices continue to fall and the Samsung 840 Pro is coming soon.
some similarly priced listings on staticice
http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=samsung+830+256…lowest is $197, no idea about shipping/pickup options. It was on sale at $192 not long ago.
quite interested in the 840 pro too, quite similar in sequential speeds but random I/O seems quite a bit faster.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6328/samsung-ssd-840-pro-256gb…
25% faster random read, ~2x faster random write. also sips tiny amounts of power.
That seems like a pretty decent improvement, I think I can afford to wait a bit longer
Any RRP yet? Pro comes in 250 as well?
$499 for the 500GB Samsung 840 from Netplus - http://www.netplus.com.au/product/HDSSDSA840-0500/500Gb_Sams…
$219 for the 250GB Samsung 840.
25% improvement sounds impressive but I doubt you'd ever notice the difference.
and considering the 128GB version of the 840 Pro is currently $160 the 512GB version will be way over $500 when it becomes available. edit currently $613 at Amazon.comNo it's not going to be noticeable, unless measured in synthetic benchmarks.
If people really wanted speed, why didn't you buy a pcie ssd in the first place lol. Sure the 256gb models are twice the price, but with 1GB/s read 850Mb/s write, 130k IOPS. It's surely going to resist temptation of upgrading, unless its the new intel 910's. 2GB/s reads drool
Being careful that you can actually boot from the pci-e drive.
A lot of them can't do it.
I just paid $459 for this from allneeds computing in adelaide. It came in 9 days late and service was shocking - no phome call that the initial one day wait became 9. That'll teach me to deviate from MSY!!
cheap as chips
Tempting but still expensive for me.
If you want faster boot times. Its called hibermating you computer.
Anyway 500gb sounds to much for the average user at the cost currently. Sparingly 250gb would be alot better. Dont forget ssd's have higher failure rates then the HDD so I wouldnt recommend using it as a storage house.
Still awaiting the intel ssd sales….
And if you want even faster boot times - don't even turn your computer off.
What's an "average user"? Whoever an "average user" is - I'm pretty confident they wouldn't even be using a SSD in the first place, making your whole point (whatever it is) sort of… moot.its called hibermating
lol.
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