Lowest I've seen, been waiting for the price to drop before pulling the trigger
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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X AM4 CPU $249 Delivered ($0 C&C) + Surcharge @ Centre Com
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Same at mwave with no surcharge
CentreCom is free shipping, which should be cheaper.
12600kf probably a slightly better deal tbh for those not on am4
The benefit is that AMD is still supporting AM4 and are still releasing CPUs, whilst Intel 12th gen is pretty much on a dead platform.
you basically can't get a much better cpu than this on am4, but lga1700 supports 14th gen, so, this is just.. wrong
5800X3D quite a bit better than this CPU (at least for gaming). 5950X also quite a bit better than this for workstation use.
14th gen is slightly warmed up 13th gen.
@ThirtySixNights: The 5700x will be my bang for buck choice - which I ended up getting. Do I wish I didnt cheap out and get the 5800x3d - yes, I wish I didn't cheap out.
@ultramagnus88: Yeah this is where I am torn. 5700x I've been wanting to target for so long once down < $250. But if I'm going to invest on AM4 now it means I'm not upgrading to something else for a while so maybe I might as well go 5800X3d or even 5700X3d with a CPU cooler upgrade instead.
But 5700x does seem like the bang for buck choice for sure.
@Jorgonaut: For gaming performance, the 5700X is no man's land, its about the same as the 5600 for gaming, and the X3D is a much better last ditch upgrade. $249 also put it in direct contention with the 12600KF which is the better performing chip, so its only worth considering as an AM4 upgrade. If you need the extra 2 cores for productivity work, then sure.
with a CPU cooler upgrade instead.
The 5700X is a harder CPU to run than the X3D. The X3D runs hot, but the bottleneck isn't with the cooler, you can make do with a 120mm tower, or even the stock downdraft cooler (with some performance limitation), and the biggest thing you can do to keep temp low is CO undervolt. The 5700X is only 65W at stock since its a cut down 5800X, but unless you lose silicon lottery hard there's a fair amount of performance to gain by just turning on PBO and loosening the power limit.
There's also the 7500F as contention in the ~200-250 price bracket, though you have to pick one up from Aliexpress unless Metrocom or another OEM Tray part dealer start selling locally. You can pick up the rest of the platform there as well, but if you want to buy that locally its not much more expensive than AM4 either, and put you on a platform with at least one more guaranteed upgrade and potentially 2.
@[Deactivated]: Yup largely agree about the no mans land comment for gaming which is why is another reason I still haven't pulled the trigger on 5700x.
But the extra $$ for the 5800X3D + cooler upgrade (which I'd still want to optimise perf from it) is maybe a bridge too far for how tight I am usually here over a straight 5700x cost.
Like I said… torn.
@Jorgonaut: You have the GPU already or that's also on the shopping list? I have an AM4 system and an AM5 system. In general usage, I can feel the difference with AM5 (not huge, but is noticeable). So if you want to go for AM4 now, it is best not to overspend. However, $55 difference to stop thinking about 6 cores vs 8 cores is okay.
@netsurfer: Yeah I already have a full am4 build and looking at a possible cpu upgrade at some point from 3600 to something when price is good enough. No urgency.
@[Deactivated]: These discounted previous gen CPUs are mostly testing whether people can overcome their FOMO feelings. ~$55 and getting 8 cores instead of 6 could be tempting for some people. For most people, 5600 is enough, but it is not discounted at the moment.
AMD is still supporting AM4 and are still releasing CPUs
They aren't new though, they're reusing the same existing chips.
Other way around?
There's now AM5, Intel is still using LGA 1700 for their 14th gen CPUs
They're just cut down/rebinned version of existing chips, they're about as new as the 14900KS. Great for someone still on a 2600 getting a 5650XT3D in 2025, not so much for someone buying a Zen 3 chip today on AM4.
I don't think Intel have a good combo of speed/price/power usage above their i5 line-up. And with AM4 a cheap B550 mobo will work with everything but high end Intel chips need high end boards to get the most from them.
But each to their own. I probably wouldn't get this chip as the 5600x is better value for gaming, and if I had the graphics card I'd probably go for the 5800x3d.
@Dunnomuch: You wouldn't be buying either of them new with expectation of upgrade, that's the point. All the "new" AM4 chips are just variations of existing Zen 3 chips with different binning, hence the comparison with the 14900KS (which is just the halo version of the 14900K with the best binning available for competitive OC), so the argument that "AM4 is still getting new CPUs" is flawed.
@Dunnomuch: B550 is the last AM4 chipset introduced by AMD. Furthermore, being the last chipset means motherboard makers already learned from previous gen AM4 boards. That said, it is still a PCIe gen 3 chipset based board, all the PCIe gen 4 bits are from the CPU direct.
Furthermore, if you own a B450, X470 or earlier AM4 board, you wouldn't be happy that AMD basically shuts down PCIe gen 4 support through microcode in BIOS (AGESA) so that B550 looks attractive. Motherboard makers did enable PCIe gen 4 support on older AM4 chipsets at the beginning, but once AMD found out, it soon stopped it.
Lastly, B550 was delayed so with Ryzen 3xxx series CPU, B550 wasn't an option at the time. It's easy to go, at the end of AM4 journey, there is a good, cheap option, but just like every platform, there were growing pains.
Furthermore, if you own a B450, X470 or earlier AM4 board, you wouldn't be happy that AMD basically shuts down PCIe gen 4 support through microcode in BIOS (AGESA) so that B550 looks attractive. Motherboard makers did enable PCIe gen 4 support on older AM4 chipsets at the beginning, but once AMD found out, it soon stopped it.
Didn't know even the supposedly good AMD with their (at the time of 1st gen Ryzen) finally competitive performance and long-term socket support was actually artificially limiting performance/functionality like the Tesla or BMW of today..
Bought used 5600X mobo and RAM (32GB 3200 Corsair LPX) combo from FB marketplace.. buying used always cheaper.. $360 all up
Time to pull out the old a320
should do a deal with techfast so they can do a non 6 core peasant budget build
also isn’t 8000 series release soon
Thought that was an awesome deal then, until I realised it's not for the 5700X3D
Even though it's getting on in age, this CPU is still a lot of performance for the money.
Looks like it's goodbye now, 3400G.
I upgraded to this from a 2700x to improve my BG3 frame rate. It definitely did the trick.
I do wish I went the extra mile to grab an x3d chip.
What are you all pairing with in terms of vid card?
RTX 4090 😊
No wait, nVidia Tesla H100 80GB.Has not been stylised as 'nVidia' for a long time
I've got an A100 80gb card at work… Between projects, I chucked it in a desktop to have a play. It's a real pain in the arse to cool and power it before even trying to use it.
Get an rtx and a fire extinguisher for when the power plug burns up.
I have the 5800x (which is virtually the same as this CPU, but just runs far warmer) and have it paired with a 3070ti, although I don't really play any visually demanding games these days, so can't comment on how it handles them.
my 2c I went from Ryzen 5 5600X to Ryzen 7 5700X (low power/low heat build so no interest in 105W+ CPUs like the 5800X3D etc)
Unnoticeable in ~90+% of scenarios, slightly better if you have a few FB marketplace pages open but it'll still crash and tell you you're out of memory after 8/9 tabs either way.
Gaming = no real difference, very few games make use of so many cores, boost clock for both is 4.6Ghz.
Also browser/video playing in one screen and game on the other = no noticeable difference.CAD/Excel are the only other products I use, no difference noticed there too.
Only worth upgrade if you're on Zen 2 really.
Price is good, but in about 3-4months they'll be clearance items.
How much RAM do you put in your system? 8-9 tabs and it is out of memory? Anyway, that's a lack of RAM issue, rather than CPU issue.
I mean shit I'm still on an ancient system with 16gb ddr3 and I don't really have any problems with that many tabs open (not that it's zippy or anything lol)
32Gb, it's not RAM here - FB Marketplace tabs in chrome has a significant cpu background process. Check your processes. It's a known issue - designed to encourage people using their app etc..
for confirmation, opened up 50+ youtube/google maps tabs to see and no slowdown whatsover…
I put one of these in my X370 mobo about a year ago (I think it was $238 during an ebay sale) to replace a 1700. Best bang for buck for all-purpose use (mix of gaming and productivity).
If you're a gamer I'd probably pony up the extra $150 and get a 5700X3D. The non-X3D variants do bottleneck higher end GPUs (4080 or above).
See hardware unboxed benchmarks: https://youtu.be/uC9074rcOzQ
Then again, if you're dropping stupid amounts of money on a 4080 you may as well drop another $1k and get an AM5 system.
Damn I got excited for a sec thinking this was a 5700X3D. I got a second hand 5600X last year cheap as chips but at this price I definitely would've made the upgrade
My 5600x just died (I know) so grabbed a 5700x3d - I thought it was gonna be a total waste and regretful but it's actually super noticeable and surprisingly glad I went for it.
Even though benchmarks show it doesn't do very much, it's the 1% lows and never dropping below a certain fps that make it feel so much more buttery smooth than the 5600x did.
Maybe if it was an X3D
Is it worth upgrading from my 3600x to this?
Just grab the 5700X3D for gaming, the price difference isn't that much.
Yes,
L1 Cache 384 ->512
L2 Cache is bigger
Single threaded performance is quite a bit better (so old, or non-multi core optimised software will be much better).
Boost clock higher and 2 more cores:https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3494vs4814/AMD-Ryzen-5-…
Also lower power consumption means lower PSU load and possibly cooler running CPU.
IMO, no. Just stick with your 3600x and when you actually need a CPU upgrade, get a X3D like what the other guy said.
Same at scorptec