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I don't know if this slipped through, or just a great deal but it is over $48 cheaper than anywhere else. Be quick.
Intel Core i7-14700K Processor $594.15 ($580.17 eBay Plus) Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Good timing, winter is coming and I need something to keep the house warm
It's funny, the ever popular 7800X3D has a TDP of 120W, while the 14700K is only slightly higher at 125W, that extra 5W enough to start making house warming jokes?
Mine runs at 28c idle in a 22c aircon house
Not only that, Intel will only use that much on sustained multi threaded loads where the 7800X3D will boost to those doing simple tasks
I think TechPowerUp’s very in depth CPU testing appears to disprove your comment
@AussieDeals: Wow, it’s almost as if I was talking about non load tasks which aren’t tested in benchmarks.
Intels power draw is significantly lower for these, and it spreads them across its cores more effectively, meaning you’re not getting a jump to 70 degrees every time you open a webpage like Ryzen
@cille745: Can you provide examples of the specific difference in power draw between the CPUs with figures from real world testing for these non load tasks to show the superior power draw of the 14700K? There is an idle power draw advantage for intel but these CPUs are not purchased to simply sit completely idle on the windows desktop (they’ll just enter a sleep state soon enough in any sane person’s PC)
Also the silicon temperatures do not equal power consumption. As you can see in quite a bit of testing from many reviews, Ryzen will boost and use up its thermal headroom (therefore getting hot) but will still continue to use far less power in many tasks than intel (which also gets freakin hot under load)
The 7800X3D also continues to provide excellent performance in single thread, multi-thread, applications and gaming for the amount of power it’s using, as evidenced by the efficiency calculations shown in the TechPowerUp review
These two CPUs are mainly targeted at gamers so the very significant difference in power draw when gaming will likely cancel out any potential advantage Intel has in idle or any non load tasks
The first part of your initial comment also implies that the 14700K will only use 125W in sustained multi thread loads when testing from a wide range of review sites shows it to be hitting well over double that figure at stock settings in such workloads (e.g. 279W in blender in TPU’s review)
@AussieDeals: Which CPU would you get to build a machine for photo/video editing (mostly photo)? I was leaning towards AMD with an Nvidia card but now I'm considering an Intel.
@Flyerone: Pretty much all of the modern CPUs are fantastic and super close in performance for photo editing & video editing.
If you care about power efficiency you should be fine with most 7000 series Ryzens (which still has potential for further CPU upgrades on their current AM5 socket in future unlike intel’s current socket which is a dead end and due to be replaced soon) or something like an Intel Core i5 12th/13th/14th Gen when discounted (Core i7 and i9s suck power like mad under load).
If you are doing this as your primary source of income and you know for certain the small time savings from a top CPU will increase your earnings (and will also outweight crap power consumption) then just getting what is fastest can also make sense.
The TPU review has some numbers on photoshop and premiere pro performance in their review https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/11.h…
Application power consumption i7-14700K vs 7800X3D just as an example (take note of y axis scale different for each graph)
https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/images/power-p…
https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/images/power-…
If not gaming focused you can save some cash and go for a non-X3D 7000 series Ryzen or Intel i5 (both of which will still play games quite well)
@AussieDeals: Thank you very much for this reply.
My gaming days are well behind me (probably) and I doubt I will end up earning from photography/videography but I do want to be able edit the 4K video my cameras shoot and stack process astro shots without waiting forever. My Dell XPS with it's gen 8 i7 and GTX 1050 ti isn't horrible, but showing it's age, so it's time to replace the old desktop. I have a 27" 4K Dell ultrasharp so something to drive that and have PS/LR etc run at a decent clip is the aim.I'll check out those reviews.
@Flyerone: AMD's 7700X would be the go my friend. At one point it was like the second fastest CPU benchmark wise (Paget) for Photoshop I believe?
I have one myself awesome CPU for gaming and productivity, running on an air cooler with some tweaks easily hits 5.5 GHz on lighter loads and under stress testing hits between 5.15-5.2 GHz all core pending on how warm my room is at the time.
If only Adobe would fix how un-optimised Lightroom is and we'd be golden.
AMD's 7700X would be the go my friend
Thanks, that gives me confidence, as that was the processor I put in my PCPartpicker list. Am I right to think an Nvidia card is the better option for the adobe products.
@Flyerone: Paget seems to recommend Nvidia:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/photo-editing-worksta…
It’s best to look deeper at actual testing of components rather than simply accepting the fantasy number the manufacturer puts on the box.
https://gamersnexus.net/u/styles/large_responsive_no_waterma…
https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/intel-desperate-i7-14700k-cpu-r…
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/22.h…
It’s a fair bit more than 5W separating the two CPUs
This is true but in most scenarios the 7800x3d acts like it has a much lower tdp. In gaming it runs at 50-100w less power than the 14700k which happily approaches 180w or so.
The i7 14700k will easily eat 250w if you let it
Firstly, the way Intel and AMD rate their CPU's is very different. This makes the comparison you make invalid.
Secondly, it's not unheard of for the i7 to pull 230 watts in bursts (and I've even been informed it can pull 300 if let off its "power leash") where as the 7800x3d will draw half this amount in the same workloads.
During gaming, the i7 can often use twice as much power as x3d for similar performance.
So, if there is a joke to be made it's probably made by Intel and how it decides its CPU's ratings….
7800X3D 120W TDP is data sheet non-sense, its PPT caps out at 88W all core loads, so its a 65W TDP CPU in all but name. If you manage to push it higher than 88W you've made tech news. Intel on the other hand unless you make sure to keep the power limit enabled on the BIOS (a lot of manufacturer has it unlocked by default) will keep on boosting above and beyond its data-sheet boost TDP.
125w. lol
pull the other one.
great price but not interested (interested but poor)
thanks for letting us know
I'm in the market, but I'd this really that good a deal? Everyone is selling the i7-14700KF for $609 atm. Seems like a better buy, just for the inevitable problem solving we all end up doing.
You can the 14700KF for $560 on eBay but even then I would still go for the 14700K for $580.
Don't you have it the wrong way around? F means no iGPU
I do have it the wrong way round. Suddenly the pricing makes a lot more sense. Early bed for me tonight, I think.
This or Ryzen 7800X3D for running games/visual studio for large apps/local servers/video editing?
7800x3d. For running game, there is almost no reason to choose Intel over AMD at the moment unles your chosen software could fully utilize Intel's big.Little-like architecture.
Intel big.Wattage
ARGH! Just bought this for $629 2 days ago :(
Note it's with ebay plus