Which eBike is better? Help please!

Lonegaishimasu on 22/02/2024 - 11:21

I have found two e-bikes that appear very similar spec wise.

The moov8 is much cheaper than the Leitner but I don't know enough about e-bikes to make a decision!

It's intended use is a 20min commute to and from work on city roads

https://www.99bikes.com.au/moov8-21-x-60k-10-5ah-red#additio…

https://leitner.com.au/collections/electric-folding-bikes/pr…

Please let me know your thoughts!

Automotive Electric Bicycle

Comments

  • sumyungguy on 22/02/2024 - 11:32

    Both have rear hub motors which is OK. Why the preference for folding/compact? Is this for storage at home/office or a multi-mode commute?

    • onegaishimasu on 22/02/2024 - 11:41

      There are two reasons;

      1. They tend to be cheaper
      2. It would be nice to be able to take it on the bus/boot of a car if it rains unexpectedly (very common in sydney)
      • sumyungguy on 22/02/2024 - 11:49

        I used to commute on a Dahon folder. Easy to get home if you have a mechanical issue and are in a rush. I also used to multi-mode on the train until I became fit enough to ride the whole distance. Then I switched to a job with a 45km round trip so bought an ebike with rear hub motor. I'd go for the one with the best after-sales support. These bikes are complex and electrical/controller gremlins can render them unrideable. I had a folding frame similar to the Valk Shuttle 5

  • jv on 22/02/2024 - 11:37

    Which eBike is better? Help please!

    Choosing the right e-bike can be a great investment for your daily commute. Let's compare the Moov8 and the Leitner e-bikes to help you make an informed decision:

    1. Moov8:

      • Price: The Moov8 is more affordable, which can be appealing if you're on a budget.
      • Specs: Unfortunately, I don't have specific details about the Moov8's specs from my current knowledge base. However, you might want to check its motor power, battery capacity, and overall build quality.
      • Intended Use: For a 20-minute city commute, the Moov8 could be a suitable choice if it meets your requirements.

    2. Leitner:

      • Price: Leitner is known for its affordability. Their cheapest e-bike starts at just $1,279, and the most expensive one goes up to $2,300¹.
      • Specs: Leitner offers folding electric bikes with a 250W motor, pedal assistance system, and speeds of up to 25 km/h³. Their Libelle model, with a low-step frame and 20" wheels, is designed for riders 5'2" and taller⁴.
      • Intended Use: Leitner's folding e-bikes are versatile and suitable for city commuting. The Libelle's compact design doesn't compromise power or sturdiness.

    Considerations:
    - Budget: If affordability is crucial, the Moov8 might be the winner.
    - Features: Compare the motor power, battery range, and comfort features.
    - Test Ride: If possible, test ride both bikes to see which one feels more comfortable and suits your riding style.

    Remember to check local availability, warranty, and customer reviews before making your decision. Happy cycling! 🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️

    (1) E-Bike Brands in Australia | Review & Guide – Canstar Blue. https://www.canstarblue.com.au/vehicles/ebike-brands-austral….
    (2) Top 10 Best Folding Electric Bikes - EBikespro Australia. https://ebikespro.com.au/all-reviews/review/top-10-best-fold….
    (3) Leitner Electric Folding Bike - Step-Through - Libelle – Leitner …. https://leitner.com.au/products/electric-folding-bike-step-t….
    (4) Which eBike is better? Help please! - OzBargain Forums. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/832558.
    (5) Best Electric Bikes - ProductReview.com.au. https://www.productreview.com.au/c/electric-bikes.

    • onegaishimasu on 22/02/2024 - 11:43
      +1

      Thanks for the comment jv. Specs for each are below;

      Moov8

      More Information
      SKU MVEBV860X033
      Season 2021
      Click & Collect Yes
      Shipped Nationally Yes
      Motor Brand Bafang
      Motor Torque (Nm) 32 Nm
      Motor/Drive Unit 36V 250W
      Battery 9.6 Panasonic Ah Li-ion Battery
      Battery Brand Panasonic
      Battery Size (Watt-Hours) 345 W-h
      Display LCD Multi-functional 5-speed display
      Assist Modes 5 Modes
      Charge Time (Hours) 4 hrs
      Colour Red
      Frame Alloy
      Frame Material Alloy
      Fork 6061 Alloy Aluminum
      Fork Material Alloy
      Front Gears Single
      Groupset Brand Shimano
      Groupset Shimano Tourney
      Rear Gears 7 Speed
      Crankset 44T, Alloy Aluminum crank, Prowheel
      Pedals Folding with reflector, Wellgo
      Chain KMC
      Brake Type Mechanical Disc Brake
      Brakes Tektro Disc-brake
      Shifters Shimano 7 Speed
      Brake Levers Alloy
      Derailleur Rear Shimano 7 Speed
      Cassette Shimano 7 speed gears
      Wheel Size 20"
      Tyres 20"x1.95" Kenda reflective tyres
      Rims Alloy Aluminum, Double Wall
      Hubs 20" x 1.95-inch KENDA with reflector
      Handlebar Alloy aluminum
      Headset NECO
      Grips Leather comfort grip with ergonomic shape
      Stem Alloy aluminum
      Saddle SR comfortable
      Seatpost Alloy aluminum
      Weight 20kg

      Leitner

      Motor

      Rear wheel hub brushless geared motor by XOFO, 36V 250W, High Torque 43Nm. XOFO is Leitner's preferred motor supplier due to extremely high reliability outperforming Bafang motors in our experience. Leitner's partnership with XOFO goes back to 2013.

      Frame

      Aircraft-grade light-weight Aluminum Alloy 6061

      Battery

      Removable 36V 9.6Ah/10Ah Lithium-ion battery with Samsung Battery Cells located behind seat post with lock and keys. Or upgrade to a 14.4Ah/15Ah or 19.2Ah/20Ah battery. Removable in seconds. Check battery charge by pushing the button on top of the battery.

      Brakes

      Mechanical disc brakes TEKTRO Aries front 160mm rotor, mechanical TEKTRO v-brakes rear,

      Control Panel

      Kingmeter KM529 LCD display with 5 levels of pedal assist, odometer, speedometer, trip meter, lights button and voltage display to estimate battery charge level.

      Lights

      Integrated front and rear lights powered by the main battery

      Reflectors

      front and rear reflectors, spoke mounted wheel reflectors (orange), pedal reflectors (orange)

      Handle-stem

      Light-weight Alloy. Folds to side for easy storage. Can be adjusted up and down by about 12 cm.

      Handle-bar

      Straight so that it's not in your way when folded to the side of the bike.

      Gears

      6 speed SHIMANO Tourney gears with thumb shifter on right-hand side handle-bar. Cassette (Freewheel) 14-28 tooth.

      Tyres

      Puncture-resistant Kenda K-Shield technology 20" tyres, 2.125" wide - with inner tube and reflective sidewall stripe for increased visibility in low-light conditions.

      Fork

      Front suspension fork

      Rack

      Rear rack with 25 kg carry capacity

      Cranks

      48 tooth sprocket, Alloy, 170mm PROWHEEL with Pedal Assist Speed Sensor

      Pedals

      Wellgo foldable

      Maximum Assisted Speed

      25 km/h

      Mudguards

      Front and rear PVC mudguards, silver color. Light-weight and rust-free, shape is resilient to impact

      Weight

      Bike weighs ~24 kg with battery, ~ 20.5 kg without battery, battery weighs ~3.5 kg

      Carry capacity

      Maximum payload of 120 kg. This includes rider and luggage.

      Charger

      2A 36V charger - connect to standard wall power socket. 5-6 hours charge time if battery completely empty. Quicker charge time if battery is not completely empty. Battery can be charged at any time - it does not have to be completely empty.

      Seat and Seatpost

      Wide comfort seat by Velo. Seat post DO NOT fold up.

      • jv on 22/02/2024 - 11:43

        Nice.

        How many pizzas can each carry?

        • onegaishimasu on 22/02/2024 - 11:47
          +2

          they both carry 6 pizzas (5 if extra cheese)

  • bargaino on 22/02/2024 - 14:54

    Why specifically an electric bike for a short commute? Is it hilly?

    All that extra weight negates a lot of the benefit of a folding bike. I like to use a regular e-bike on long/hilly rides,
    but a much cheaper and lighter folding bike for the 20-minute ride to the city. It is flat, so a (legal) motor makes little difference to the commute time. Perhaps try both?

  • aboabo on 22/02/2024 - 15:23

    Bought a new ebike for a discount price of $1100 in Sydney. Went for a ride to 99bikes and asked them to give me the price of one of their ebikes that came the closest to matching mine.

    Answer: $3600

    Shop around if you're wanting to save money. If not, please ignore this post.

  • brad1-8tsi on 23/02/2024 - 12:23

    Leitner has suspension. That would seal the deal for me.

    • Euphemistic on 25/02/2024 - 16:34

      Me too. Id buy the one without suspension. It adds complexity and weight and doesnt provide much benefit for riding.

      Having said that, I wouldn't buy either as they are folding. Unless its a top quality folder, it won't be great to ride anyway.

Login or Join to leave a comment
Login Join