Veggie capsules.
Weekly dose of 50000IU . However consult your GP before taking a large megadose.
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Yes
Would not recommend even twice weekly dosing for most people - 25mcg (1000iu) a day with a small amount of sun exposure is more than enough. That is equivalent to 14000iu in a fortnight.
While uncommon, vitamin D toxicity can cause severe hypercalcaemia.
Good price though.
Did a quick readup on articles and it appears safe to take 50000iu weekly , however the consensus is to take one monthly to maintain normal levels .
If you have severe vit D deficiency, then 1 tablet weekly for 8 weeks.
Daily max should be 4000UI, but your should always consult a doctor first.
TUL seems to be 4000, but the data says SUL is 2000 per day.
Anyway, all vitamin D studies are weak sauce in terms of quality of data. Stick to 2000.
I would be wary of statements saying certain doses are ‘safe to take’ especially when the benefits of high vitamin D levels (i.e. > 150 mg/L) are unproven. These studies are often in young healthy people with good hepatic and renal function, and being in the zone where there is a risk of toxicity is not something most doctors would recommend. I am not an endocrinologist, but from observation most would taper the dose in patients with levels even above 120.
Be very careful buying supplements from the US - it's an unregulated market.
I was about to grab a bottle since it seems quite convenient. 1 tablet per week
But looking at some of these comments, maybe it's not a good idea.
Even looking at chemist warehouse, 7k IU weekly tablets require prescription… this is 50k.
Apparently too much could lead to kidney stones too. Upper daily limit is apparently 4k, with some people at 2k. Wiki references a 2010 study, I havent bothered to read the study
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D_toxicity
Better safe than sorry, I think I'll just stick to 1k tablets and consume extra if there are days I forget or something
@but scratcher “ Even looking at chemist warehouse, 7k IU weekly tablets require prescription… this is 50k”
That’s incorrect. I’ve been getting the 7K IU weekly tablet’s from Chemist Warehouse (and other chemists) for a long time.
Oops, you're right. I thought the purchase limitation meant you had to get a prescription. Rather, it seems you are legally required to consult the pharmacist before buying it
https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/search?searchtext=7000iu…
Veggie caps check, magnesium stearate from vegetable sources check, but the silence on the D3 itself suggests it's from sheep on their way to slaughter.
Why is it even called "veggie" in the product title? No such indication on the bottle itself.
It's the type of capsule.
From Bottle images:
90 Veg Caps
Serving Size: 1 Veg Capsule
If you're taking something like over 5k IU of Vit D, some professionals recommend taking K2 as well. K2 helps the calcium get to the right places in the body.
Holy cow didn't even know they make this dose in 1 capsule
I think in Australia its only available from compounding chemists. A chemist i knew told me they compound D in 50,000 does for oldies so they can take once a month or once a fortnight
back in days - i used to take 1 50,000 unit table a month.
at that time could only buy from cincotta chemist - it was kind of special order for $5/tablet.
could only get it with script from GP.
I changed the GP and he suggested to avoid the high dose as it can become addiction.
I changed the GP and he suggested to avoid the high dose as it can become addiction.
As in addicted to vitamin D tablets?
According to dr. (not me) - when your body use to high dose of any medication - it is very hard to revert back to low dose. & it will crave for high dose only.
Addicted - high dose.
If severely deficient you can go 50k IU for individual days up to 2 weeks. But not on long term..
Thank you for your advice Dr.
I was getting a vitamin D injection once a year.
The doctor would administer this himself on the day at a cost of $60-70 each.
Since a bigger increase in price had changed myself to getting the weekly 7K IU from the chemist without a prescription.
I never thought to ask the dosage we were getting injected at that time.
Bummer - Dr misses out to big pharma.
When working in Antarctica they give out 50000 IU tablets 😉
You mean when guarding the icewall
@TEER3X
Look into it ;)
Are people from Africa Vitamin D overdosed?
Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda machine, had also taken vitamin D because of his crippled limb; and mind!.
Something like 77% of people that died from Rona had low vitamin D. Funny how most mainstream “experts” kept that to themselves.
It was pretty common knowledge then and still is now. Most old people have vitamin d deficiency.
Then why didn't they promote vitamin D supps for the elderly?
Who are "they" you always seem to speak about?
Ostelin D3 1000IU: 1 per day
Doctor's Best Vitamin D3 5000IU: 1-2 per day (= 5x does)
This Veggie D3 50,000IU: 1 per week (= 7x does)
We need 'certified professional' badges in OzB to determine which comments are worth listening to instead of internet researchers!
A recent warning about taking too much, https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2024/01/01/…
Wouldnt be from the D. Chronic alcoholics have some degree of chronic liver disease which contributes to their malnutrition. The Malnutrition and deconditioning would have been the cause and not the vit D.
I trust the diagnosis of the doctor who treated the patient, over your expert Ozbargain experience.
over your expert Ozbargain experience.
i have 20+ years experience in the health field
I trust the diagnosis of the doctor who treated the patient,
Actually, you are trusting this guy "Chen Chien-chih and Jonathan Chin / Staff reporter, with staff writer"
The man was a heavy drinker with a glomerular filtration rate level of less than 20 which indicates chronic kindney disease. Combine chronic liver and kidney disease with malnutrition from ETOH and you get your answer. Vitamin D played little to no role in his misfortune.
Doctors found that Chang had been using an unsafe amount of vitamin D supplements, and they told him to stop and drink more water, Chen said.
The man made a full recovery after one week, he added.
Obviously I can only go off the article and assume it isn't made up, but it says he went off the vitamins and recovered.
Taking mega doses of vit D is very dangerous and you don't need to be in the "health field" to know that.
but it says he went off the vitamins and recovered.
When you are in hospital as a chronic alcoholic, you get treated with multi vitamins, vit K, Vit B, high protein diet and sometimes TPN and NO alcohol. Thats why he recovered , not because he stopped the vit D.
@easternculture: Not what the doctor who treated the patient said.
You can assume the Dr is an idiot, or the article is fake, but there are plenty of reports of people taking stupid doses of vit D and being hospitalised.
@Aureus: Ok, ill trust someone (you) who has no experience in treating chronic alcoholisim and just following an article written by someone who is not a health professional.
@easternculture: I am not the one who made the diagnosis. I am not the expert, the doctor is. You are dismissing the doctor's diagnosis.
Pretty easy to do a blood test and see if someone has toxic levels of vit D. Seems silly to a non-medical field person (me) that you could get that diagnosis wrong.
I agree he did have a lot of pre-existing issues and the headline makes it sound like vitamin D cost him his hips but the issues that ended up with him collapsing were cleared up after stopping the excessive amounts of D. Article also doesn’t even say what amount he was taking so details that the doctor knew are missing to make an informed judgment.
The article heading says he lost his hips?
Misleading heading, he was taking self prescribed doses of vitamin D because he had hip osteonecrosis but ended up in hospital with low kidney function from the vitamin D and having hips replaced probably because he just needed that anyway.
"However consult your GP before taking a large megadose."
I would be amazed if your GP gave you any other answer except, are you out of your tiny freakin' mind?
That is because most of the older generation GPs dont bother updating their knowledge with evidence based practice and practice medicine from 30 years ago.
I just came here for the unqualified opinions.
A load of variable factors, but 30 minutes in the sun will give you 10k-20k iu equivalent of vitamin D. A tablet with 50k per week (of a fat soluble vitamin) would be highly unlikely to cause any form of toxicity.
Yes, but when you cover up, apply sun cream etc as advised by the Cancer Council, you limit the amount of sunlight to exposed skin that creates the VitD in your body. And some countries don't even get 30 mins of sun a day ie England
I am a GP
You should 100% not be taking 50,000IU Vitamin D tablets unless your GP has advised you to for a very specific condition. There's a reason you can't just buy this stuff off the shelf in Australia.
These are the Australian guidelines:
To treat uncomplicated moderate to severe vitamin D deficiency, higher doses are used, although long-term safety data for these doses is not available. A suitable regimen is: colecalciferol 75 to 125 micrograms (3000 to 5000 international units) orally, daily for 6 to 12 weeks, followed by 25 to 50 micrograms (1000 to 2000 international units) orally, daily. Consider using a higher dose in obese patients, and patients taking a drug that alters metabolism and storage of 25-hydroxyvitamin D in the liver (eg rifampicin or some antiepileptics). Very high doses (eg 1250 micrograms [50 000 international units] weekly) are sometimes used to treat patients with known fat malabsorption disorders (eg due to cystic fibrosis, coeliac disease or inflammatory bowel disease) or gastrectomy, or severe symptomatic deficiency, although safety data for these doses is not available.
What can happen Dr. Pineapples?
There's a few issues. Vitamin D isn't water soluble like some other vitamins which you just pee out.
The primary concern is that excess Vitamin D can cause elevated calcium levels which can be dangerous.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h….
Yes, but if you take vit-d without enough high fat food, it will pass through you too.
Don't talk rubbish over the distinguished authors! You are just a GP! Everyone here is a renowned author! (with at least Ass/A/Prof title) on everything! If you check their profiles, you will see their thousands of peer-reviewed publications, and citations! For example, the OP has scored 2776 peer-reviewed publications and 25876 citations as of writing this and counting. You have only 24 and 340, respectively. So, what you are talking about! Gees!
See my profile: I have 0 zero publication and 0 zero citation, but I had to cite their publications 600 times.
although safety data for these doses is not available.
So what did you advise people on covid vaccine. Or were you one of those sheep that said yes to the government and AHPRA so you dont get de-registeted lol.
How do you feel knowing you may have contributed to ruining someones life due to the neuro and cardiac side effects as a result? And you talk about safety data, huh.
That is the very reason i dont trust GPs after the pandemic events and left the health system.
"…although long-term safety data for these doses is not available."
VitD should be included in breakfast cereal. My 2c
They fortify milk in the US with vitamin D.
I wouldn't exactly call them happy people.
GP's have destroyed numerous lives in my familial and external network.
Go back 30 years before you can find the last remnants of professional credibility.
e.g. Me "I have an ear infection."
GP 1 : no you don't - get off Dr Google - you have a mis-aligned jaw. Here is a PDF I googled. 4 minute consult - charged for a double.
GP 2 : no you don't - you have a toothache - go see your Dentist. 5 minute consult - charged for a double.
GP 3 : no you don't - it is in your head as I can't see anything in the canal - it may be psychological. This guy was the head of practice at an Australian Uni and guess what? An Alumni recent grad just opened his Psychology practice in the next room in this guys clinic.
return to childhood GP, "off course it is an ear infection, I'm a Paediatrician, I see these all the time. Your ear canal is clearly inflamed." Prescribed Otodex. Fixed.
Same thing happened to my freind. He had gastro issues. The GP kept referring him to a psychologist and told him he was delusional. Eventually i got him to see a gastroenterologist i knew, he scoped him and treated the issue.
Would be good if we could bypass the gatekeepers and just book an appointment with the relevant specialist.
GP's destroying lives one external ear infection at a time, and time charged at double. Sounds like you have an issue with being charged for healthcare. Username checks out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3_t-EQIy0s
This channel has some interesting videos discussing Vitamin D and other topics. In this video he puts forth with the aid of recent studies that the current recommended amounts of vitamin D are considered too low and should be increased to suprisingly higher amounts.
When I was researching vitamin D I came across this article, The Big Vitamin D Mistake
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5541280/
It basically says the RDI was measured incorrectly and needs to be much higher to have an impact on deficient levels.
Take a blood test and see what your GP suggests. No point supplementing if you're not deficient.
No point supplementing if you're not deficient
Something like > 80% of the population is deficient.
Unless you take your shirt off and sit in the sun for at least 20 min a day, you are one of the 80%
I suspect I indeed am one of the 80%
In for one.
To whoever that recently purchased, can you tell what's the expiry of the product they are sending out ? Thanks!
Andrew Huberman In an interview, Andrew indicates that he consumes between 5,000 and 10,000 IU of vitamin D daily and claims that his blood tests show that his vitamin D levels are within the normal range.
So i dont think this would hurt all that much. He is the GOAT after all
The important part is he had blood tests. Would be silly to take this everyday without getting a blood test to test your vit d level.
GP early last year administered 200,000 IU to Mrs ..some oil based Vit. D. No issues
But was it done orally or rectally?
Injected in the arm
is that even safe lol