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Is there actually anything wrong with having 2 a day?
nope
7000iu once a week vit d tablets exist.
I take ostelin ones 100iu.. sometimes I'm bored and take 3 oyher times none for a while other times mix it up with two 500iu + Calc and the vit only.
Except that from December (just received) to May'24 only 6 months ie. we'll need 4/day to use them by expiry :(
I was taking 1 each 2nd day until recently finished. This would be 8x boost for the next 6 months.
I take 10,000 and thats the sweet spot i feel
YmmvIf you really need to take that, then there’s an injectable form available in Australia of 600k IU. It’s around $50 and good for once a year or so. Prescription only.
@Aureus: A study was recently done. People taking 50000 a day. Tank out at 120 in your bloody. No increased calcium either.
@Fishesass: Yeah. Study participants were deficient and had large doses for 6-12 months. Participants ended up with high, but not toxic levels.
Most people would be fine with no, or low dosage vit d supplement. It is silly to take 10k IU+ daily, if you haven't had your vit d levels tested.
@Drakesy: It’s an unusual dose so I assumed you are taking it on doctors advice for low levels, in which the injection is far more efficient. Personally I’d not risk taking that much long term without blood tests. There’s bound to be a few people for whom that’s not safe, and I don’t want to be one of them.
Getting too much vitamin D can be harmful, don't take my word for it, google it or talk to your doctor. Most pale people don't need Vitamin D3. and the tacky name .. Doctor's Best
Too much of anything is harmful. And 10,000 iu isn't actually that much. Roughly 30 minutes of being in the sun.
Most pale people don't need Vitamin D3
@Drakesy: First of all, it's not the latest study, it's like data from 10 years old. Then again, there are higher than normal levels of low vitamin D due to lack of sun exposure and higher levels of sun protection than we used to be and the location we are living in also matters. But still, before you load up on Vitamin D, do a blood test and check.
My wife's neurologist told her to take 4000IU every day. She's been doing that for months now and still isn't at the ideal levels in blood tests. YMMV. If you live in QLD working as a lifeguard wearing only shorts in the sun all day, you probably don't need any. If you don't get much sun and live somewhere that gets colder for a lot of the year, you're guaranteed to be low at some point. There's quite a large range of readings that are considered healthy, so you can go for quite some time at this dosage without any concern. As always, hard data is the best basis. I also tested this out on myself taking 5000IU per day for a couple of months and got a blood test before and after, and I only went from the bottom to the middle of the healthy range.
It's also worth noting that getting a lot of sun has some negative consequences, as we know, so relying on that alone may not be ideal either.
It's also worth noting that low vitamin D is believed to be related to the development of MS, as was the case with my wife. The MS Australia site actually has a map showing the likelihood of developing MS based on your location within Australia and there's a significant difference between Cairns and Tasmania.
@rhino015: lack of vitamin D, lack of childbirth, poor diet…. i forget what the other one was… being female IIRC. In terms of the significantly increased cases of autoimmune disease diagnoses in women.
There’s a 600k injectable form that will fix it in one go.
Safety Information:
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.Hmmm.
Standard supplements disclaimer?
I had a quick look. I couldn’t find any of the other brands of Vitamin D with the same disclaimer.
The product in this post is from USA, FDA is an agency from the USA.
Have a look at any other brand of vitamin, and often any imports will have this statement so that it can also be sold in the USA.
For example: https://amzn.asia/d/cQXgLVP
Note the last image in the gallery.
I would suggest D3 + K2. I've been using this one for the past 2 years…
https://www.amazon.com.au/Liposomal-Vitamin-MK7-365-Softgels…What time of day do you suggest D3 + K2 ?
How many times a day ?
Before or after food ?
Definitely with food, preferably with fatty foods, like oily fish. Any time of day is fine, but research suggests at night increases abortion. As a general rule, fat soluble vitamins take with food. Water soluble, empty stomach. Also some vitamins interact well with one another and some counteract. I had to do so much research on vitamins as i was very deficient. Once I changed the times, with/wihout food, and what to take with what, my levels increased dramatically :)
increases abortion
Uhmmm…
@voteoften: Yes…is this the first typo/autocorrect you've encountered on the internet? You have many more ahead to enjoy on your new found internet journey :)
@UndeclaredFreak: No need to get so defensive. You should have just gone with it and joked about it, it's quite funny lol
@Empharand: I actually wasn't being defensive, my comment was meant in jest. I laughed when I realised what I'd typed. I have been told that my sense of humour is terrible though…too deadpan.
It’s best to take it earlier in the day than later, preferably with a meal that has some fat to aid absorption.
Taking vitamin D late at night has the potential to affect melatonin levels and sleep.
4000 iu per day is considered by many to be safe long-term.
I take Vit D 5000IU about 5 days a week and VitK2 daily.
Taking 5000IU per day over long periods raises my Vit D levels to well over 150 mmol/l, which is still OK but I prefer it to be closer to 100.I guess everyone is different. After a year of high deficiency, when i switched from morning to dinner my levels raised dramatically. As well my Iron and B12 which I take in the morning, increased. I dont have to get iron infusions on top of 2 x Maltofer every day and no longer need B12 shots. I have also gone from 5000IU daily and now I just take 1000IU. My levels have been stable ever since, after 2 years of severe deficiencies.
But everyones body is different and working out whats best for yourself is always best way to go.
What other supplements do you take, if any?
Looking at some of the reviews, it's likely that the expiry date will be under a year, so unless there are a few people that will be sharing the bottle much of it will be wasted.
That doesn’t apply to all drugs and I doubt it applies to these as they contain a liquid. Presumably an oil, which will go bad.
Personally, I’d put them in the refrigerator.
Everybody should be taking this as a prophylactic for disease - its cheap and will improve you quality of life and save your health and wallet.
A natural source of D3 is eating mushrooms.
A surefire way of knowing you're getting the right amount is taking two of these a day.
(Different mushrooms for different needs)
It's just that taking too much D3 can deposit them in your kidneys.
Way too much vitamin D.
as is getting full spectrum sunlight on one's skin surface .. 15 mins per day
What % of your body? Just my arms?
That's the OzB's way … free and natural D3
as is getting full spectrum sunlight on one's skin surface .. 15 mins per day
I'll be sure to tell my dad.
Oh wait, I can't. He died from melanoma in August due to exposure to the sun.
Sunlight is natural. So is tetanus, botulism, snake venom etc.
That's the preferred way, if you're not at work, and it's not cloudy like it has been for the last 2 weeks. :)
Quotes here from Applied Metabolics:
"Vitamin D works with hormones secreted from the parathyroid glands, small glands just above the thyroid gland in the neck, to control calcium uptake and metabolism. But more recently, the research on vitamin D had burgeoned, along with the realization of how many people are deficient in this particular nutrient (88.1% of the world population is deficient in D). That’s ironic in a way since vitamin D can be produced through the effects of ultraviolet rays exposure from the sun on the cholesterol found in the top layers of the skin. But for this to occur, the right conditions must exist. The sun must be in a certain part of the sky for the necessary level of UV to get to the earth and activate the endogenous vitamin D synthesis effect in the skin. If you have darker skin or have a higher level of body fat, this natural system of D production just won’t work sufficiently. The older you are, the less efficient your body becomes at converting skin cholesterol into vitamin D. Recent research on vitamin D shows that it affects numerous body systems and can offer preventive effects against a wide range of diseases. These include cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes, and multiple sclerosis. Other research shows that D is required for the full expression of the immune response. Without sufficient vitamin D available, a type of immune cell called Killer T-cells, which destroy incipient tumor cells in the body, cannot be activated. This partially explains why population areas that show lower than normal D levels also show a higher incidence of various types of cancer.
While in the past, the only clear-cut manifestation of a vitamin D deficiency was a disease called rickets in children, or osteomalacia in adults, both of which involve a failure to properly absorb calcium into bone, which compromises bone strength, it’s now known that vitamin D receptors exist on nearly every organ in the body.
**Vitamin D is thought to activate over 1,000 genes in the body. As such, the health and preventive effects of vitamin D are much more far-ranging than previously thought. **
"If you opt to get your D from sun exposure, you need to expose at least 5% of your skin to the sun for 5 to 20 minutes a day, 2 to 3 times a week. Exposing your skin to UV rays at the correct wavelength (usually during the Summer months) can produce 10,000 to 20,000 units of D in the skin after 15 minutes. "
References listed: Veugelers, PJ, et al. Optimal vitamin D supplementation doses that maximize the risk for both low and high serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations in the general population. Nutrients 2015;7:10189-10208.
Unlike wild mushrooms, commercially grown mushrooms are usually not exposed to light, so they would have no or little vitamin D.
IIRC if you expose picked mushrooms to sunlight they can still generate Vit D
@Wally: Yep! Put your mushrooms you buy on the window sill in the sun for a bit and they're good to go :)
They say it needs to be "irradiated" mushrooms. I'm not sure whether this is done to the ones you find at woolies and coles.
Wild mushroom from Victoria?
2 x D3 = D6 feet under
Do you have a cochrane review or similar I could read?
Most of the studies on vitamin D are poorly done. Don't read into it so much, it's mostly junk research. Take up to 4000 IU per day (averaged over the week is fine), make sure you're eating a decent diet that gives you some vitamin K to go along with it, then call it a day.
These are what I take, no idea if they do anything
Helped me so much while I was doing night shift for 5 years.
Vitamin D and K life saverGreat price but only can buy 1 as I doubt expiry is years in the future
Owned by a Chinese company FYI
They have little spies in there? Or are we all going to unconsciously turn into little commies??? 🙀
opening and unscrewing vigorously everything in my house that says made in China, looking for them little ones
I'd be more concerned about sects running our country right here in front of our noses LOL! But they're OK, they're all ok…..
The world's Vitamin D3 supplements come from China anyway so in this case it doesn't matter much.
However in general Doctor's Best is questionable as they refuse to provide any Certificate of Analysis (COA).
Owned by a Chinese company
What do you think?
99% of these products completely or API
manufcatured in China
API (Active pharmaceutical Ingradient) for most the the mainstream medicines are from China
Years back no EP controls in China which favoured Western phama compnies.
Now China tightening the EP controls which increased the prices and pharma companies passing on adding their premium on increased prices
Supplements are such a rabbit hole but D3 is a no brainer!
I buy the 5000 and 10,000 unit ones from iherb. Im not very disciplined, so when I notice the bottle, i take anywhere from 5-10 of them. They give 50,000 unit doses to old folks in homes. It’s probably the most important hormone for your body.
My doctor recently gave me a 600,000IU shot. Had absolutely no VitD apparently lol.
Pow! Right in the kisser!
You shouldn't take these without an appropriate dose of K2 unless you want your risk of kidney stones to skyrocket.
kidney stones are great fun! What are you even saying here?
I'd be more concerned with circulatory system hardening. I've actually mentioned that here before, on another Vit-D post, but people like to get all carried away with their supps.
Ordered 1 thanks 🙏
Always make sure to swallow the D daily.
😂, that's a MOUTHFUL joke
Come on you two!
Note these products do not have the AUST L label on them which means they not regulated by the Therapeutic Goods Administration for quality.
So?
I take vitamins (including zinc and cod liver oil) every day but I do wonder if there are any benefits at all.
My wife has low vitamin D and iron, so supplements definitely help her, but do they have any positive impact on people whose bloods and general health are good?
Maybe that's why your bloods and health are good?
Go off them for a year and report back. :)That's a very good point.
If you have the perfect level of everything then logically no it wouldn't help. In some cases having the minimum of the healthy range of one particular thing compared to having higher in the healthy range can have benefits, according to some studies into specific benefits. It's all quite complicated. But I think the reality is very few people realistically get just the right amount of everything. Their diets would have to include a large variety of different foods eaten regularly in the right amounts to give the minimum of everything, and then in some cases this might be too much food. People absorb different vitamins more or less easily than others as well, so the same amount of consuming x will not give the same levels in the body.
The only way to know for sure would be regular blood tests covering everything. Doctors won't generally do this in my experience, although you can pay privately for blood tests requesting specific things you want to be tested, you can buy these online and get a referral. They aren't cheap.
From my research I'd say Vitamin D is the vitamin that's the easiest case to argue however. They say 80% of people are deficient.
Cue the Vit. D debate
Lol OP was spot on :) Good deal for those of us who like to quietly enjoy our good health though.
720 capsules .. 1 a day, noway these have a long expiry date