Asus TUF Gaming AX4200 Wi-Fi 6 Router $235 Delivered (Was $349) @ Amazon AU

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AX4200 WiFi 6 Router

Pros:

• WiFi 6 (802.11AX) on 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands
• AX4200
• 4 x 1Gbps LAN ports
• 1 x 2.5Gbps WAN ports (one may be reassigned to LAN)
• USB 3.2 port (file server, print server)
• Supports OpenWRT
• 512MB memory & 256MB flash storage (reasonably good for adding extra features in OpenWRT)

Cons:
* Not WiFi 6e
Edit: * Supported by OpenWRT but very technical to install (need serial cable and expertise) see comment by by @katsuya

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  bisaya on 20/11/2023 - 21:40

  this or a mesh AX1800. Which would be better

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    rygle on 20/11/2023 - 21:54

    It depends on your needs;

    If you don't have a "full house" or lots of devices being used concurrently, the AX1800 will be reasonable, and especially at $89.

    If you have lots of people and lots of devices, this will be better, but it obviously costs a lot more.

    If you want OpenWRT this supports it and are reasonably happy with the AX1800's bandwidth, that would be better as this is a very technical install procedure. (corrected thanks to @katsuya)

    If using USB, this has 3.2 vs 2.0 on the ax1800, but most people wouldn't care.

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      bisaya on 20/11/2023 - 22:50

      2 storey house with 2 WFH and usually 5-6 devices connected at once during the week.

      Would the ax1800 give better range and speed?

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        rygle on 20/11/2023 - 22:56

        It's hard to say exactly but partly based on the smallish number of devices you might be better off with two AX1800s than one AX4200, particularly if you can run an ethernet cable between them but have one on each level of your house.

        I have a split level house which is effectively 3 levels and I currently have a single AX3200 router up high on top of the fridge on the middle level so about floor level for the top level and it reaches the top and middle levels well and the bottom level ok, but we don't spend as much time down there.

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  Yuri Lowell on 20/11/2023 - 21:45

  This vs Flint 2?

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    rygle on 20/11/2023 - 22:00

    +2

    In my opinion, the Flint 2 is better value for money.

    • Very similar main CPU/SOC (system on chip) but the Flint 2 has the edge due to extra chips on the board and RAM/flash
    • the Flint 2 has double the ram and flash memory
    • AX6000 vs AX4200
    • Both reputable manufacturers (many OzB's like GL.iNet)
    • The Flint 2 has an extra WAN port that is switchable to LAN.
    • Both support OpenWRT. The Flint 2 is currently only a snapshot build but it's very stable and it's only going to stay in snapshot for now because of OpenWRT's release cycle.
    • The Flint 2 has gone up since the deal a few days ago, but it's still less than this.
    • If you want something in the hand ASAP, you could pick up the Asus at Bing Lee right away or next day postage from Amazon.
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    netsurfer on 20/11/2023 - 23:05

    +5

    The main reasons to get Asus TUF Gaming AX4200:

    • You want to use Asus firmware and the ability to use the Asus app on your phone.
    • You have other Asus routers and you want to use AiMesh.
    • Price is acceptable (compared to other Asus routers which support Merlin firmware).

    Flint 2 does have better hardware specs, but:

    • Unless you have a client device that supports 4x4, you are not going to get AX6000.
    • Even if your PC has Intel AX210, latest iPhone and/or Android phones, you are only getting 2x2, so technically, even AX4200 (3x3) is overkill.
    • OpenWRT requires proper optimisation to run well. There is a reason why people like Merlin firmware because it is still based on Asus firmware, which has optimisation code that are not open source.
    • Flint 2's WireGuard VPN does look impressive. So, it does appear that GL.iNet knows that they cannot just use plain OpenWRT, optimisation has to be done in order for the router to be competitive performance wise.
    • You do have to be willing to customise the router more with Flint 2 to get the advantage.
    • Not sure if you used OpenWRT before, but it is more time consuming and because it supports so many devices, you cannot assume a feature you found that works for certain routers with certain chipset will work for Flint 2.

    Don't get Asus TUF Gaming AX4200 to run OpenWRT. If you want to use OpenWRT, get Flint 2.

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      rygle on 20/11/2023 - 23:58

      +3

      Agree.

      Higher data throughput on more expensive devices is divided between all frequencies and streams.

      Most devices cannot do anywhere near as many streams as the more expensive routers. Yes, even the latest greatest phones are all 2x2 for WiFi because 4x4 really chews battery power. They do more streams than 2x2 for mobile data but not for WiFi.

      Therefore unless your device is absolutely completely cutting edge and not a phone in general, it is more about total number of devices in your environment.

      Even all the talk about 160MHz and 320MHz wide data streams is mostly useless because only a few of the 5GHz frequencies can join together enough bands (think lanes that are 20MHz wide and need to be gathered together side by side to make an unbroken freeway of lanes/streams) to make the 160MHz super band, let alone 320MHz wide, and if your neighbour's WiFi wants to transmit in the middle of those frequencies, it breaks the ability to use the bands together, which is almost always going to be the case with WiFi 6 and 5GHz.

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  ce5himm on 20/11/2023 - 21:50

  +4

  we are paying too much for these here. i am not saying this router, just in general.

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    rygle on 20/11/2023 - 22:00

    Agree!

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  katsuya on 20/11/2023 - 22:04

  +1

  installing openwrt no longer require serial cable. Simply download trx, flash, and then update to latest openwrt.

  https://forum.openwrt.org/t/asus-tuf-ax4200-support/155738/2…

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    rygle on 20/11/2023 - 22:09

    +1

    Thank you. I knew they figured that out for the AX6000, not the AX4200!

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  takemymoney on 20/11/2023 - 22:51

  Highly recommended. got it for 260 sometime ago and performance/UI is an considerable improvement in high freq.

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  LuckyBargainer on 21/11/2023 - 08:03

  I never upgraded from the free TPG router that I got 10 years ago. Everything seems to run fine in the house. Is there really a noticeable difference upgrading to a $350 router?

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    Robmatho on 21/11/2023 - 08:32

    +1

    I have the same question basically. Using a gen 2 telstra (been a long time since being with Telstra)
    What would be the benefits? Am I risking security by not upgrading?

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      rygle on 21/11/2023 - 15:17

      Probably risking security, but it's how long is a piece of string really.

      It's really about what you use it for. I've got a media server set up that I ripped all my discs to. I have kids watching YouTube and playing video games while chatting on discord and my wife works from home part time and we watch lots of stuff streaming from my server but also Disney and Amazon and four lots of Spotify with everyone doing different stuff. And OzBargain on top of all that 🤣

      But I'm just a router nerd as well!