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A bundle hosted by Oak Grove Games by Esther Wallace with content from 140 creators.

In response to the ongoing crisis in Gaza and occupied Palestine, we're creating this bundle to raise funds for the organization Medical Aid For Palestinians. All funds raised will go to the organization.

From the organization's website: "MAP's vision is a future where all Palestinians can access an effective, sustainable and locally-led system of healthcare, and the full realisation of their rights to health and dignity.

Through our programmes in the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, and Lebanon, we work with trusted and experienced local partners to achieve this vision. Our programmes, designed and delivered by Palestinians, provide access to essential health services and build local knowledge and skills to address Palestinian health problems. In times of humanitarian emergency, we are ready to respond rapidly with aid and assistance.

MAP is also committed to bearing witness to the injustices caused by occupation, displacement and conflict. We speak out in the UK and internationally, and ensure Palestinian voices are heard at the highest levels, to press for the political and social barriers to Palestinian health and dignity to be addressed." This bundle will run for two weeks, from October 26th-November 9th, 2023.

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      • StaticzAvenger on 01/11/2023 - 09:57
        -1

        The end is Islam, it's the root cause of 99% of the issues in that region.

        • Tomaus62 on 01/11/2023 - 12:56

          As in Islam is the root cause of the problem? How exactly, can you please elaborate

          • StaticzAvenger on 01/11/2023 - 16:43

            @Tomaus62: Ingrains hateful ideas/laws behind women, gays or anyone who practices other religions openly or dislikes or doesn't believe in Islam in those regions.
            They do not intergrate with modern society or agree with the modern standard of our countries typically (views on women, gays ect) most second or third generation people aren't as bad because they typically practice a watered down version of Islam or don't believe in it as heavily as people who grow up in Islamic majority countries, but it's mainly places where it's celebrated when you commit war crimes in the name of Allah and the (profanity) up idea that virgins are promised for you in heaven afterwards.
            That is the gist of it, please let me know if you'd like me to elaborate as someone who is gay and has personally feared for my life in a middle eastern country overseas. :)

            • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 20:04

              @StaticzAvenger: Chances are when you or your parents were born, gay sex was illegal in Australia. Read your bible it's full of genocide, repugnant blood libel against women, gay killing and mass murder, in fact the Qur'an considered the bible and the Torah too violent bro.

            • Tomaus62 on 01/11/2023 - 20:50
              -2

              @StaticzAvenger: I smell Islamophobia here. It’s ok it’s not your fault as you believe what you watch on tele and social media. But if you cared to verify any of those and went back to the source, Quran or Hadith, you would see most of what you are told is all lies. That’s why Islam is a fastest growing religion in the world as most people discover it’s all lie. Here’s a stats for you The six fastest-growing religions in the world are estimated to be Islam (1.84%), the Baháʼí Faith (1.70%), Sikhism (1.62%), Jainism (1.57%), Hinduism (1.52%), and Christianity (1.38%),

              I have done reasonably extensive research on 4 religions Judaism, Christianity (orthodox), Hinduism and Islam and I can guarantee you none of the above orthodox religions support homosexuality and strictly prohibits and for some it’s a serious punishable offense. But in you case about the fear being killed in Middle East is again wrong. Why do you think Dubai became a hub of the world? Same goes for most Middle East countries, they allow homosexuals to be in the country on tourist visa as long as you don’t promote homosexuality. Saudi is the recent country to allow. Check their government websites. It’s common sense to respect the laws of other countries and you can’t expect the entire world to be westernised. Same goes for Africa and even Aboriginals here in Australia as they have their daily rituals that we respectfully accept.

              Now to your point about women in Islam. That’s another big fat lie that women are vulnerable and disrespected in Islam. I will give you 2 examples feel free to fact check as I have done mine. Muslim girls don’t change their family name after their marriage. And why is that? Because it is disrespectful for a girl to change their identity and be someone else’s. Don’t you this this is symbol of showing respect? The second example is in Islam mothers are so respectful that Heaven lies beneath the feet of your mother! For a Muslim believer heaven is all they want after death and they never disrespect mothers nor their wife. Now you may say there are many Muslims who treat their wife like a slave! That is not a problem of the religion, that is a problem with that person as Islam doesn’t preach that. If you are not good at Physics it doesn’t mean physics is wrong, it’s your problem that you failed to master it.

              In regards to the virgin after death after killing themselves, again that is also fabricated. I have said enough but if you have an open mind read and learn. That’s what I did and you will be surprised how many non Muslims buy English version of Quran from Amazon to find the truth.

              Finally, like I said before it’s not a religious war as all 3 religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam are very similar as all the prophets from Torah and Bible are all mentioned in Quran with great respect as Quran being the final version of that line of prophecy. Muslim believes in anti christ and Jesus will be back to save the humanity just like the Christians. Anyway I said enough, be good mate

        • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 19:59
          -1

          Don't hold your breath…on a second thought do

  • ChipsChicky on 01/11/2023 - 00:26
    -1

    Imagine spitting on innocent people practising thr religion. Real face of hypocrisy.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/sUJrXNCfUrk?si=7Iv-nFub7qEHQxxA

    • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 00:34
      +3

      Do you condemn Muhammad for destroying the idols of the pagans? Maybe your freedom for religion.

      • ChipsChicky on 01/11/2023 - 00:53

        What would have Moses did at that time? Built another one?

        Try another one.

        • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 00:55
          +2

          You did not answer the question. Try again.

          • ChipsChicky on 01/11/2023 - 00:57

            @gto21: Didn't great grandfather of Moses, Abraham destroyed idols ?
            Muhammad just followed him.

            But none of them were Spitting on People, who worshipped those idols, like your fellas are doing here.

            Happy now?

            • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 01:03
              +2

              @ChipsChicky: You mentioned that they follow a book that is 3,000 years old. Now, you're stating that your prophet followed people from over 3,000 years ago.

              • ChipsChicky on 01/11/2023 - 01:20
                +1

                @gto21: Muhammad was also Grandson of Abraham, from the bloodline of Ismail/Ishmail. Why He wouldn't follow him?
                and that's where the problem started, Jews were waiting for ladt Prophet to come from them i.e. bloodline of Isaac. They had even came and started living in surroundings of Madina, as they knew that all signs of city of Him are here, waiting for him to come from them.

                Ah, but thr pride was hurt when He came from Ishmail rather Isaac, and till today you are unable to digest it.

                • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 01:28
                  +3

                  @ChipsChicky: After you lost the "debate", it appears that you're writing merely for the sake of writing, even when it doesn't relate to my original point.

                  • ChipsChicky on 01/11/2023 - 01:30

                    @gto21: I am not debating and I am not interested in winning from a stranger. I have stated the facts, If you wana keep your eyes and ears closed, it's upto you. Stay Blessed.

                  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 07:43
                    +2

                    @gto21: Lol ur getting smashed on this post obviously. The more u comment the dumber u look. It’s like defending a child rapist when u sit here and justify Israel’s war crimes. Terrible human being you are, shame.

                    • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 09:20
                      +1

                      @[Deactivated]: Sure, he never condemns Muhammad for destroying the pagan idols. I exposed his double standard. He keeps tap dancing to avoid answering the question lol.

                      Hamas does something similar, claiming victory even though they get smashed.

                      • ChipsChicky on 01/11/2023 - 09:25

                        @gto21: You are such a kid :)

                      • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 09:39

                        @gto21: Ur emphasise on religion bias being ur moral compass as support that another human being is perceived as lesser purely defines ur racist rhetoric. Do your self a favour and stop commenting, Jews want peace and ur psychopathic ideology is disturbing.

                        • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 09:49

                          @[Deactivated]: Speaking of lesser, Allah says that the Jews are the worst of creatures. Using your logic does that make Allah a racist?

                          • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 09:55
                            +1

                            @gto21: I’m not engaging in any religious topic except to identify you as a supporter of genocide and mass killing of innocent humans.

                            • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 10:09

                              @[Deactivated]: Say the person who supports a deal where the money will go to Hamas.

                              Hamas want the genocide and mass killing of innocent humans.

      • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 20:17
        -3

        Do you condemn the original Nazis aka the crusaders who invaded what is now Palestine and Lebanon in 1099 and massacring the entire population. They told the Moslems if you surrender you'll be spared, the Muslims believed them and went in instead beheading women children and babies. Some witnesses noted the blood was up the knees. Their blood thirst didn't stop there, they went into the Jewish Quarter and massacred the Jews and THEY WERE STILL BLOOD THIRSTY, they went into Christian quarter and massacred the Christians, why? because the Crusaders were Catholic and Jerusalem's Christians were Orthodox.

        Do you see a pattern there? Every time The Muslims were in power, Christians, Muslims and Jews lived peacefully, whenever Jews and Christians invade Jerusalem it's a geocide and a hell hole

        • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 20:26
          +1

          Can you give us a history lesson and tell us why the pro-Palestinians are saying 'Khaibar, Khaibar, ya yaoud' in the streets?

          Muslims conquered lands from Spain to India. Such a vast conquest is not achieved by self-defense. My first question is, what were Muslims doing in Spain? Without an ideology that believes in world conquest, the Crusades might not have occurred. The Crusades were a response to the Muslim invasion of Christian land. Without them, Europe would probably be Islamic.

          Christians face persecution in nations such as Pakistan.

          • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 20:50

            @gto21: Islamic expansion did occur but unlike Christian wars, there were no mass forced conversion to Islam, no ethnic cleansing of the locals and certainly no mass genocide. Most of the locals that converted did so on their own. In fact most Palestinians today have Jewish or Christian ancestry. When Israelis kill Palestinians today they are killing people that are more ethnically Jewish than they are.

            • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 21:02
              +1

              @subwoofer: The persecution of Christians is reaching alarming levels, with numerous incidents often perpetrated by Islamic groups and nations, approaching a situation reminiscent of genocide.

              The Book of Jihad and Expeditions

              (21)Chapter: Expulsion of Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula
              It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say:

              I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

              Sahih Muslim 1767a

              https://sunnah.com/muslim:1767a

              • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 21:29

                @gto21: I can also quote you from the new and old testament that will make your skin crawl.

                This quote was not from the Qur'an it's through a chain of hearsay and not all Moslems follow the same Hadith interpretation. Mecca and Medina are a special case and even now they are not open for tourism. The vaticans have also banned non Christians from residing there. It is what it is, so Yes No non Muslims are allowed there.

                • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 21:36
                  +1

                  @subwoofer: And I will quote the quran and Muhammad when they confirms the Torah and Injil, so that we can make Muhammad's skin crawl.

                  Most Muslims are Sunni, and it's a Sunni hadith.

                  The word "sahih" means?

                  Anyway since you want the quran: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Quran 9:29

                  • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 22:09

                    @gto21: There are many Hadith books like Bukhari which is a collection of Hearsays about the Prophet, some are credible, others not so much.

                    And yes Jizya was a tax that non-Muslims paid, Muslims had to pay a compulsory tax as well called zakat.

                    • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 22:21

                      @subwoofer: My question was, "What does the word 'sahih' mean?"

                      Once you answer, I will show you that the Muslim scholar says that you should accept Da'if hadith too.

                      • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 22:29

                        @gto21: You're missing the point there's no SUPER "Muslim scholar" that all Muslims should adhere to, Sahih could refer to Sahih Al-Bukhari or verified Hadith, not too sure I don't claim to be a Muslim Scholar

                        • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 22:45
                          +1

                          @subwoofer: "Sahih" means authentic. When you say it's unreliable, it makes your argument incoherent. You're essentially implying that authentic is unreliable. Furthermore, the people who preserve the hadith are the same individuals responsible for transmitting the Quran. If we can't trust them regarding the hadith, I don't see a reason to trust them when it comes to the Quran.

                          For me, both the Quran and the sahih hadith are unreliable. The sole reason I quote them is because the vast majority of Muslims regard them as authoritative. However, when the hadith is embarrassing for them, they tend to throw them under the bus.

                          If you're not familiar with this topic, that's perfectly fine. I don't want to overwhelm you.

                          • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 23:02

                            @gto21: Fair enough I can see you have more knowledge on the subject. If you don't trust Islamic books, that's fine we never forced anyone to believe or convert.

        • DogGunn on 01/11/2023 - 21:10

          Do you see a pattern there? Every time The Muslims were in power, Christians, Muslims and Jews lived peacefully, whenever Jews and Christians invade Jerusalem it's a geocide and a hell hole

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 21:30

            @DogGunn: Ok then, give the phone back to your parents now.

            • DogGunn on 01/11/2023 - 21:37
              +1

              @subwoofer: I don't want to - but seriously, if you think that statement is at all correct, you are deluding yourself.

    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 09:56
      +1

      Imagine throwing people of the highest building because of their sexuality and beheading people because of a divergence of the same religion.

      • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 22:35

        Yeah stop reading the bible and the Torah it's not good for your mental health

    • DogGunn on 01/11/2023 - 21:09
      +1

      Imaging thinking this represents all of their religion. It would be like saying Hamas represents all Palestinians.

  • cmyk on 01/11/2023 - 06:40
    +1

    All the debates about religion, who started it etc aside and focus on the children. 1 dead child is 1 too many. Hamas is terrible but Israel is 108.89X worse.

    Fact is as of Oct29, the 3 weeks since Oct 7, more than 3250 children have been killed. 3125 in Gaza, 33 in West Bank (no Hamas) and 29 in Israel.
    https://www.savethechildren.net/news/gaza-3195-children-kill…

    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 10:03
      +5

      That's not how it works. Just because Israel has a stronger military and is better at protecting its civilians doesn't mean it should have to have as many casualties.

      How much of Palestinian death's are contributed by poor hospitals? I'd imagine a lot of people in Gaza get injuries that could easily be saved in an Israeli hospital but end up dying in because they can't get into a hospital.

      Why does HAMAS spend so much of the aid money building tunnels only for their fighters and not bomb shelters for anyone like Israel?

      What governments goes to war knowing that they have no means or protecting or providing for their civilians. It doesn't make sense to start a war with the country that supplies your water and electricity. I don't see Russia sending gas over to Ukraine.

      • cmyk on 01/11/2023 - 10:19

        Missing the point. No one said Israel should have as many casualties. 1 dead kid is too many. 3000 kids - no words for that.

      • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 11:15
        +2

        I think ur history of this conflict is misaligned. The war started 70 years ago, palestine are and have been under occupation and oppression. Israel have trapped the Palestinian people in an open air prison with the ability to cut off power and food at will. This is the core of this problem not taking away the horrendous loss of innocent life on both sides. Israel are and have always been on the offensive and are the greater power hence have more pull to have taken this to a more peaceful resolution. But what has been displayed is the double standard and terror state Israel are and everyone that support their on going actions of carpet bombing Gaza including bombing hospitals, and now refugee camps.

        • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:22
          +1

          Although not ideal, things seem to be more peaceful and prosperous in West Bank than Gaza since 2005. Why is that?

          • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 11:28
            +1

            @jonow83: I don’t know what world you live in and how u define peace. Illegal settlements and the killing of Palestinians in the West Bank without hamas even existing there clearly displays Israel’s rhetoric. They are evil oppressors, you can theorise all you want but in practice, israel are committing war crimes everyday now. Ask your self if your okay with 3000 children killed, depending on that answer I’m sure anyone in their right mind would realise this onslaught from Israel is criminal.

            • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:41

              @[Deactivated]: Non-combatants killed in war are never acceptable. Let alone children. But cymk posted the stats for you earlier: 3,125 in Gaza, 33 in West Bank and 29 in Israel. West Bank and Israel combined seem less than the number of children killed in US school shootings.

              What was HAMAS plan for their own civilians when they decided to raid into Israel and murder and kidnap civilians?

              But lets entertain the idea of a ceasefire. Israel stops then what?

              • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 11:48
                +1

                @jonow83: Israel stops then the civilians are allowed their human rights, this over-seeds everything. What happens next requires the world collectively to provide support in this conflict. At the moment the continuous onslaught of innocents is unacceptable.

                • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:49
                  +2

                  @[Deactivated]: And the hostages held by HAMAS? And you say Palestinians are allowed their human rights. What's your definition of that?

                  And with a ceasefire, there isn't a "conflict". So i assume the world provides support for Israel/ Palestine. Accept Israel is rich and stable enough and only needs support from their US allies. So support is really for the less fortunate Palestine. Which the world already does. 30% of their GDP comes from foreign aid. Plenty of foreign business invest into Palestine without expecting to make money. Israel even builds water pipes and schools.

                  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 12:21

                    @jonow83: Whatever international human rights are that’s my definition and is what Palestinians are deprived of.

                    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 12:33
                      +2

                      @[Deactivated]: Ok, so you don't really know? Can i use amnesty international? They seem to be an NGO which actually leans more to Palestine's favour:

                      https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-af….

                      Have a read and see how much of the human right abuses are done by their own governments.

                      • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 12:36
                        +2

                        @jonow83: An occupier controlling a countries water supply is deprivation of international human rights alone. It’s an open air prison, u fail to acknowledge the facts and are instead writing ur own narrative. Palestine must be free the same as you and the same as any other human on this planet.

                        • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 12:41
                          +2

                          @[Deactivated]: you say Gaza is an open air prison and Israel occupies Gaza. How did HAMAS come to control Gaza? Israel prefers PA but why isn't PA in Gaza anymore? What happened there? Is Israel controlled Gaza can't they just install PA as the puppet government?

                        • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:50
                          +2

                          @[Deactivated]: Anyway we went off topic and got bogged down in the small details. Israel has a ceasefire. Are there hostages? If you say no, then no hostages get released. Israel turns back on the water. Removes blockades.

                          How will Israel prevent and get a guarantee that another attack like 7 October does not happen again? Israel government also has a responsibility to its citizens who also have a right to be safe from attacks. how will HAMAS provide that doesn't happen again?

                  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 12:22

                    @jonow83: I saw a video where the Israeli hostage gave Hamas a high five

                    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 12:34

                      @[Deactivated]: I also saw one with the old lady doing a peace sign. So there are no real hostages then? Thought this was pretty much something both HAMAS and Israel agreed on but ok.

            • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:48
              +1

              @[Deactivated]: Let me put this question back to you and see if you are ok. Do you think HAMAS is doing the right thing by the Palestinian people and the wider region and is a good representation of Palestinians? Is what they are doing righteous and should be supported?

              • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 12:31

                @jonow83: Is what Israeli are doing ( collective punishment, cutting off water and fuel, bombing hospitals and refugee camps now ) righteous or do you just have double standards?

                • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 12:39
                  +2

                  @[Deactivated]: You live in Australia. Is China responsible for the supply of our water and electricity? Imagine everytime we have a trade dispute and China turns off the taps. Why is Israel responsible for Gaza? Israel left Gaza in 2005. Egypt is also Gaza's neighbour. Why isn't Egypt also responsible for supplying water and electricity? Why has Egypt also tightly controlled their borders with Gaza and refuse refugees?

                  We can talk about hospitals and refugee camps but does that solve the problem and just distracts from the main issues.

                  • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 12:52
                    +5

                    @jonow83: While we walk about Gaza's water supply. Israel actually builds water pipes for Gaza. They don't have an obligation to. HAMAS can always build new desalination plants themselves. Instead HAMAS digs up water pipes that foreign aid helps to install and turns them into rockets:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAT5ynEe4co

                    the video was originally from HAMAS own accounts for propaganda and this is from Islamic jihad's leader's twitter:
                    https://palwatch.org/page/23830

                    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 12:58
                      +2

                      @[Deactivated]: No need to call names. Gaza isn't occupied by Israel either or HAMAS wouldn't be in power.

                      • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:00

                        @jonow83: Mate they’ve occupied them for 70 years where u been

                        • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:06
                          +3

                          @[Deactivated]: How did HAMAS come into power in Gaza?

                          • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:14
                            -1

                            @jonow83: Israel birthed them with all the warefare and killing of Palestinians, not allowing a two state resolution and constant oppression. Humans will not accept constant oppression and killing of their people the same as Israel won’t accept killings Palestine are also the same. No double standards.

                            • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:29

                              @[Deactivated]: Yes, that's how HAMAS was created but how did Israel let them get into a position to control Gaza if Israel occupied and controlled Gaza? Why is PA in West Bank and HAMAS in Gaza? Isn't it easier to have 1 party to negotiate with and Israel just install PA into Gaza?

                      • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:01
                        -1

                        @jonow83: Israel literally control water for Gaza. And TURNED IT OFF FOR 2 weeks during this conflict, resulting in collective punishment. Facts.

                        • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:06

                          @[Deactivated]: If you sold something to someone and they stopped paying you, you would stop supplying that's goods/ service. Doesn't even have to be during a war. If you are reliant on a country that supplies your essential services then before going to war wouldn't you shore up and protect that supply or don't even start another war. Russia prepared its economy for sanctions years before attacking Ukraine.

                          • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:08
                            -1

                            @jonow83: That whole point is they don’t want to rely on Israel they want and deserve liberation and their own supply of water. It’s not humane what Israel do, ur talking about WATER not made in China toys, water should be a given in any country without permission from another state.

                            • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:12

                              @[Deactivated]: Every country has to manage their own resources and populations. And no, pipeable clean water is not a free resource that anyone can just take when they want.

                              "water should be a given in any country without permission from another state"…what about land then? Farmable land for food?

                              • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:20
                                -1

                                @jonow83: I’m talking about water and your rhetoric is irrational. If u believe it’s okay to deprive innocent humans from water because of other humans in their society that are bad, this is the definition of collective punishment, and u support genocide.

                                • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:23

                                  @[Deactivated]: How are they being deprived of water? Is israel digging up water pipes, bombing water tanks and their desalination plant? Or has HAMAS failed to maintain and develope the infrastructure? why is it Israel's responsibility?

                                  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:30

                                    @jonow83: Israel don’t allow Palestinians to travel without their permission let alone build or have their own resources. This is the point and facts. I think ur confused and don’t understand the history of this conflict and Israel’s offensive stance for 70 years.

                                  • subwoofer on 09/11/2023 - 21:54

                                    @jonow83: isnotreal turns off the water, all of gazan water is stolen by isnotreal

                        • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2023 - 00:50
                          +1

                          @[Deactivated]: Israel has been supplying water, electricity, etc to them for YEARS and Hamas told them get f__ked they would never pay for it. BETTER facts.

                  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:00
                    +1

                    @jonow83: Israel are war criminals and that’s the facts the whole world knows. Try to lie and cover and re write narratives as you might, the world sees the truth and realises what treacherous evil israel is doing.

                  • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:06
                    -1

                    @jonow83: Imagine if China did control our water and electricity? Would you agree that’s not deemed an acceptable way of living for our citizens????????? I believe not, israel are evil nothing u can try to do can prove otherwise. If your Jewish I don’t blame u it must be hard to accept ur home land being such oppressors, I have Jewish friends and they are not for the current Israeli government I can tel u that!

                    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 13:15

                      @[Deactivated]: That's why a lot of countries make it a priority not to be reliant on another county for basic needs. Those that do are in a bad position. Anytime there is shortage of a resource, a county will priorities its own citizens over another country's first. That's why some people are against governments sending foreign aid when Aussies back home need it more.

                      Its actually why a lot of developed countries have a national carrier as well. you can't rely on imports of goods or flying your diplomats to be contingent on another country.

                      Nice you have jewish friends. Do you have gay friends as well?

                      • [Deactivated] on 01/11/2023 - 13:23
                        +1

                        @jonow83: I do yes, I’m a human being and love and peace is what I support. We are all human. Hence why I condemn any killing of innocent lives. Hommous 2 weeks ago and israel now! Difference is israel are not stopping and it cannot be ignored

                        • UncleRico on 02/11/2023 - 21:29

                          @[Deactivated]: I had carrot hummus for dinner and corn relish dip for dessert.

                          I think it’s time to give peas a chance…

                  • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 22:45
                    +1

                    @jonow83: Gaza is a concentration camp and isreal is the henchmen. It's an occupied land and they have a blockade on them. What happened on October 7th was prison break and is totally justified

          • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 20:23

            @jonow83: hahahaha yes the beauty of having your raided in the middle of the night by isreali soldiers, the beauty of getting shot by an armed to the teeth fanatic settler, the beauty of getting a knock on your door by the isreali army telling you it now belongs to an isreali settler and you must vacate

    • cmyk on 01/11/2023 - 11:33
      -1

      Glad too see OzB mods in action to restore civilised and humane discussion. Hopefully thecandyman2020 reflects on his humanity and not blindly follows IDF ideologies.

  • Andard on 01/11/2023 - 13:15
    +3

    occupied Palestine

    The Jews are indigenous to the land by thousands of years.

    • rooster7777 on 01/11/2023 - 14:06
      -1

      so please depart australia and return to the land of your forebears….because you arent indigenous to australia, and were never invited by the land owners of thousands of years.

      Can you come up with some twisted logic to justify why you are here? or if you aren't in australia, the chances are the same failed logic applies in the place you do live.

      • Andard on 01/11/2023 - 14:26
        +2

        Let me untwist your logic there bud to make your analogy fit: if the Aboriginals were currently the primary occupiers of Australia, then why should they have to leave like the Israelis have to?

        Edit: if the Aboriginals were the primary occupiers of Australia, could we call it "occupied Australia", because Europeans occupied it for a time?

      • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2023 - 01:04
        +3

        He's not stealing utilities, shooting preschool children sitting in strollers at the park in the head, firing rockets constantly over the same neighbour's fence who gives them all that free stuff, plus medical treatment, etc. Nor is he hiding weapons or doing that sniping and rocketing from family homes, nor threatening the families in those homes if they leave they will delete them so if Israel fires back at Hamas they can whine: "Look - Israel fired unprovoked on civilians!", nor does he hide behind women and children like Hamas does when the Palestinian people tell the IDF where to find them because they're fed up with Hamas making their lives miserable, so that while Hamas shoots at IDF solders they won't shoot back lest they hit the woman/child.

        He can stay. Hamas can disappear and the world will be a much better place.

    • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 20:26

      You mean those Europeans/Russian Germans that parachuted into Palestine are indigenous to Palestine LOL they're all converts and imposters that have 0% middle eastern blood.

      • DogGunn on 01/11/2023 - 21:48
        +2

        This isn't even remotely true.

        Why do you repeat this nonsense?

        • rooster7777 on 02/11/2023 - 07:48

          Someone is proud of their ignorance of historical fact!
          Are you suggesting that all the jews imported into israel have a semitic racial background?

          "Jewishness" is a religious characteristic, NOT a racial characteristic.

          Unless you follow the beliefs of the hard core jewish head nodders (the jewish equivalent of amish) anyone can convert to judaism, and become a fully fledged jew. Such has happened to numbers of peoples in history… hence a wildly varying racial makeup of jews.

          Imagine israel's policies are shared by say…catholics.
          Every catholic in the world would have the right to settle in the 44 hectares of vatican city.
          2.3 Billion immigrants in 44 hectares would be pretty tight… in reality catholics would be invading italy resettling it. Imagine all those illegal settlements! Imagine the disharmony and chaos that would ensue.
          Imagine britain deciding that they'd give half of italy to the catholics, so men in dresses could proclaim their divine rights over rome and naples and genoa…. and lots of other areas of a sovereign country.

          It's wonderful when an ignorant person has the right to call another's factual statements nonsense! freedom!!!

  • rooster7777 on 01/11/2023 - 15:06

    "bud"… you haven't untwisted my logic, you've shown the inner dog's breakfast of your thinking.
    By your reasoning, jews are entitled to palestine forever because they lived their a few thousand years ago (as the primary occupier, but not since then)
    Thus you have no right to be in australia, because aboriginals have a far greater link to the land, right up to current times.
    So why don't you return to where your recent ancestors came from. Are you jewish? In that case, your immediate ancestors could have come from half the countries in the world (predominantly europe) , but not australia or palestine.

    • Andard on 02/11/2023 - 10:33

      You still don’t get it. Using your comparison, the Palestinians would be the Europeans who invaded the indigenous, and the Jews are the aboriginals. This is YOUR comparison.

      Me move back to Europe? Sure. Will you ask the Palestinians to do the same?

      Not sure why I bother with you, you can’t even reply to a thread property!

  • mikokik5 on 01/11/2023 - 22:09

    is battle tank game included ?

  • fredddo on 02/11/2023 - 20:06
    -2

    terrorists are 99% muslim

      • UncleRico on 02/11/2023 - 20:57

        99% eh?

        Nothing like factual citations and statistics to drive a point home…

        • UncleRico on 02/11/2023 - 21:26
          +2

          LOL!

          Love a cowardly neg before you bravely delete your two ludicrous comments…

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2023 - 21:33
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      Terrorists are 100% Israeli

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