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A bundle hosted by Oak Grove Games by Esther Wallace with content from 140 creators.

In response to the ongoing crisis in Gaza and occupied Palestine, we're creating this bundle to raise funds for the organization Medical Aid For Palestinians. All funds raised will go to the organization.

From the organization's website: "MAP's vision is a future where all Palestinians can access an effective, sustainable and locally-led system of healthcare, and the full realisation of their rights to health and dignity.

Through our programmes in the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, and Lebanon, we work with trusted and experienced local partners to achieve this vision. Our programmes, designed and delivered by Palestinians, provide access to essential health services and build local knowledge and skills to address Palestinian health problems. In times of humanitarian emergency, we are ready to respond rapidly with aid and assistance.

MAP is also committed to bearing witness to the injustices caused by occupation, displacement and conflict. We speak out in the UK and internationally, and ensure Palestinian voices are heard at the highest levels, to press for the political and social barriers to Palestinian health and dignity to be addressed." This bundle will run for two weeks, from October 26th-November 9th, 2023.

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          • maverickjohn on 31/10/2023 - 17:41

            @rooster7777: Further to this. These are the Shiite islamic extremist that are doing this in the middle east. The sunni and alawi Muslim groups etc are actually doing a pretty damn good attempt at maintaining peace and even are against the Shiite groups including Hezbollah and Hamas
            So again don't go saying things like propaganda from the west portraying a different image when the people within the country are suffering all the time from their approach to these wars

            • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 18:33

              @maverickjohn: As above, it's a two sided conflict. Are you suggesting that the muslim groups that are "doing a pretty damn good atttempt at maintaining peace" believe and have a public position that israel is a fair and reasonable balanced player in the region?

              I acknowledge that people in the region are suffering all the time from the conflict, I haven't disputed this. What I believe is that propaganda in the west allows israel to be massively supported politically, militarily, and financially. If there was more transparency about the conflict, more westerners would understand that it is not an israel goody/ palestinians baddy situation… it is an israel strong/ powerful/brutal/ever expanding/repressive to internal dissent vs palestinians weak/oppressed/ shrinking/ desperate situation.

              • maverickjohn on 31/10/2023 - 18:37

                @rooster7777: Maintaining peace as not involving the countries citizens for the war that didn't need to involve them. Hezbollah brought the war to Lebanon… And now by association people in the world are seeing Lebanese as Hamas supporters which is just incorrect.
                Note : I mentioned Hamas supporters and not Palestinian supporters.
                Also I think the whole world knows how much Israel is funded from the west in the aspects you mentioned.. I don't think they have been shy about this

                • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 22:02

                  @maverickjohn: I think far too few citizens of the world understand how massively israel is assisted by the US.

                  While on the subject… why do you think israel is so massively assisted by the US… politically, militarily, and financially? I'm genuinely curious if you think that the citizens of the democratic US believe that israeli citizens' welfare should have such a high priority over their own 38 million (11% of citizens in poverty)… or if you see some form of financial political lobbying distorting democratic processes and the will of the people?

                  What benefit have the citizens of the US received, in return for the approx $260 Billion bucks they have given israel since statehood (about $28,000 per head of current US population), or $3.3Billion each of the last few years? (about $360 per head of current US population per year)?

                  I just can't work it out… it's not like they are such massive trading partners that the US economy would sink if they couldn't trade with israel… it's not like US citizens will have the gate to heaven blocked if they don't let israel sit on their shoulders (or is this it!?) Israel didn't hold the world lottery of the millenia winning ticket issued by the lotteries commision of the US did they? Why? Why?

                  Could this massive external slush fund be distorting the willingness of israel to come to acceptable terms with palestinians?
                  Just askin……

                • subwoofer on 31/10/2023 - 23:53

                  @maverickjohn: Hezbollah liberated Lebanon from the invaders, if it wasn't for Hezbollah you would be speaking hebrew now or ethnically cleansed, isreal invaded Beirut in 1982 and killed 20000 civilians almost 5% of Lebanon population and there was no Hezbollah then.

                  • maverickjohn on 01/11/2023 - 00:36

                    @subwoofer: Your facts are so wrong.
                    Where do you get this misinformation.
                    You just literally supported a terrorism attack in your comment above.
                    Hezbollah persecuted the whole country.. liberated no one. Israeli were on the counter offensive much like this war. Thanks to the PLO (hezbollah was a part of this) again taking it to Lebanese border.
                    Israel actually were protecting the maronites from the hezbollah terrorists. So don't go around spouting this nonsense and bs making them heroes when they are terrorist scum.

                    • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 00:48

                      @maverickjohn: mate if you're going to condone and support an entity that decimated 20000 civilians of your own country then this is your perogative. Those people that were killed were not PLO and Hezbollah didn't exist then.

                      In the 2000 isreal announced they will withdraw in June, instead they withdrew in may leaving all their Lebanese agents and henchmen behind to fend for themselves. Hezbollah allowed all these collaboraters to escape.

                      after ww2 France lined up all their collaboraters to the wall and summarily executed them. and whether you or I like or not Hezbollah are Lebanese and they defended their land and more patriotic than many other Lebanese that sell state secrets to an enemy state for a couple of hundred dollars.

                      • maverickjohn on 01/11/2023 - 08:05

                        @subwoofer: No-one is condoning 20000 deaths. Dude 1 death is a death too much.
                        But you are missing the point here. The 20000 would have been avoidable had they not brought the war to Lebanese turf.
                        They are not patriotic. They killed their own countrymen. The civil war leading up to that had thousands killed as well.
                        I'm not trying to make this about Lebanon anyway. My point is that hezbollah and Hamas are the ones who start wars. They are not ones who maintaining peace or manage things civilly. I get roosters perspective that when there is no other option they are almost forced to use last resorts but there's more to it than that, it's more like the language they use. They are training little kids how told assault rifles and teaching them how to use weapons etc.

        • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 13:18
          +3

          Spare from me the whole victim blaming narrative. If you support Hamas, there is something wrong with you.

          • Dreamcast on 31/10/2023 - 13:38
            +1

            @SolidlyIrresponsible: I don't support them, Israel does. Read the article.

            • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 13:43
              +1

              @Dreamcast: Since Israeli disengagement from Gaza in 2005, Israel had major military operations in Gaza in 2006, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2018 and 2021. Most of were stopped due to diplomatic pressure by the world just like now. So trying to put all your eggs in one opinion piece is a bit naive at best.

        • subwoofer on 31/10/2023 - 23:55

          you keep posting isreali propaganda articles from the isreali army controlled press like it has any credibility.

          • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:33

            @subwoofer: Yeah both Times of Israel and Al-Jazeera have very little credibility in this conflict. I'd be wary of some American based news as well. What's the lats bias newspaper in your opinion? SCMP for this conflict?

    • grasstown on 31/10/2023 - 12:18

      If you think wars are not planned you are delusional. The us invests in weapons and warfare. When it has the best, it needs to sell the inferior to others to get back money so it can invest further. It supplies much of the weapons used in wars. We allow it because we prefer the US as the superpower rather than China or Russia. We want the US to have the best. It’s truely sickening.

    • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 13:47
      +3

      Yeah NZ and AU is a great example - it's really, really similar to Israel/Gaza.

      You know, similar in size, similar big ocean between us, similar living conditions, similar population density, similar religious beliefs, similar control of water/food/electricity…

    • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 16:37
      +1

      Dinguss… do you possibly think that if australia invaded new zealand, kept an occupying force there, and kiwis became refugees in their own country….

      do you think the kiwis might resent that….even just a tad

      let alone do all in their power to repel the invasive species?

      FFS some people are so stupid to think that palestinians should be nice boys and girls and just accept that they are untermensch.

    • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 00:02

      Imagine Australia imposing a blockade on NZ, imagine controlling their water, electricity, internet, food, imagine banning them from using their own seas and rivers to fish and airports, imagine counting the calories that goes into NZ and bragging about putting the kiwis on diet enough so as not starve. imagine begging the Aussies to use their hospitals for your terminally ill child and the soldier telling you to go to hell, imagine Aussies kidnapping you child and putting them in prison then facing a kangaroo court where the conviction rate is 99.9%. imagine your child having nightmares at night of isreali soldiers storming their house in the middle of the night and detaining their sibblings, it's the stuff made out of nightmares.

      Free Palestine from the river to the sea

  • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 11:57
    +4

    Crap set of games

  • gto21 on 31/10/2023 - 11:58
    +9

    Hamas leaders will divert funds for personal luxury and to finance future conflicts, while many Palestinians endure poverty.

    • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 00:04

      how many times did the isreali prime minister get accused and convicted of corruption? he's probably the most corrupt leader in the middle east now

      • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 00:22

        I don't know about leaders ranking. But Hamas as leaders is really bad. Anyway I found a list by Al Jazeera of most corrupt countries:

        Five Arab states top the most corrupt list
        Transparency International says political instability in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Somalia and Sudan allows abuses to flourish

        Bottom 10 ranked nations
        Somalia (Score: 8)
        North Korea (Score: 8)
        Afghanistan (Score: 8)
        Sudan (Score: 11)
        South Sudan (Score: 14)
        Libya (Score: 15)
        Iraq (Score: 16)
        Uzbekistan (Score: 17)
        Turkmenistan (Score: 17)
        Syria (Score: 17)

        https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2013/12/3/five-arab-state…

        • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 00:33

          it's pathetic, they're all countries that were invaded and looted by America and its cronies.
          it's like a rap1st who assaults his victim then calls his victim a wh0re

          • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 00:35
            +1

            @subwoofer: It's from Al Jazeera.

          • gto21 on 01/11/2023 - 00:42

            @subwoofer: Some individuals who support the Palestinian cause have indeed referred to those tragically killed at the peace festival by Hamas as prostitutes. It is accurate that certain people have labeled the victims as wh0res.

      • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:34

        Good to know that there's a legal system that works that keeps theirs leaders accountable to.

  • bargain huntress on 31/10/2023 - 12:12
    +16

    This comment thread is insane.

    I just want to make one thing clear to everyone who has bought this:

    You just funded terrorism.

    There is a 99% chance that at least some and probably most of the money you gave will go to Hamas.

    Hamas steals most of the aid money and supplies meant for the Gazans.

  • silverhawks on 31/10/2023 - 12:17
    +2

    now that israel is just bombing and killing innocent civilians, the countries that are supplying weapons to them should also be responsible for the killings. instead of promoting peace, they are just using this opportunity to sell their weapons to make money.

    • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 12:21
      +8

      Israel doesn't "just bomb". The northern part of the strip was ordered to leave and anyone that stays is in active war zone. Every bomb Israel drops has an active terrorist target on it.

      instead of promoting peace

      Who do you sign peace with in Gaza strip? How many more people needs to be killed on both sides for you to understand that all peace offers were denied time after time?

      • silverhawks on 31/10/2023 - 12:29
        +3

        Where are they going to go to, they got nowhere to go, no food or water, didn't you read the news, they killed 8000 civilians already, and the australia government is also telling them to not kill the civilians. so you rather promote war than peace.

        • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 12:32
          +9

          Israel is focusing the assaults on the north side of the strip and asked all the civilians to move south to safety. It is clear that civilian casualties are not the goal.
          The number of casualties is self reported by Hamas, so it is very hard to believe it is remotely true.

          I am promoting peace, however, it can only exists once the Palestinians in Gaza won't be lead by an ISIS-like terror organization that calls to kill every Jew.

          • silverhawks on 31/10/2023 - 12:37
            +3

            @SolidlyIrresponsible: target the terrorist, and not the civilians,

            • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 12:40
              +7

              @silverhawks: That's exactly what is going on. Try to stand more next to a western liberal democracy and less by a murderous fanatic terror organisation.

            • Bdawg on 31/10/2023 - 13:21
              +10

              @silverhawks: Hamas headquarters is in the basement of a hospital so… do with that information what your tiny mind will.

              • silverhawks on 31/10/2023 - 13:36
                +2

                @Bdawg: how do you know its in the basement of hospital? also even if it is, does that give you the right to to blow the whole hospital up. so your saying if there is a hostage situation, you will not find a way to rescue the hostages but you will just kill the hostages as well.

                • Dreamcast on 31/10/2023 - 13:44
                  +2

                  @silverhawks: Because they've seen it with their own eyes 🤣

                • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 18:23

                  @silverhawks: Its Al-Shifa hospital if you need to know the main one that people talk about.

          • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 13:57

            @SolidlyIrresponsible:

            Every bomb Israel drops has an active terrorist target on it.

            It's cute that you genuinely believe this.

            Israel is focusing the assaults on the north side of the strip and asked all the civilians to move south to safety

            The last time you made this comment, you didn't respond to me when I mentioned that Israel also killed a boatload of Palestinians in the South with air strikes after they told everyone to head South for refuge as Israel were targeting the North.

            The number of casualties is self reported by Hamas, so it is very hard to believe it is remotely true.

            Age-old tactic to diminish the death toll being reported by the opposition, to more palatable numbers, to condone atrocities.
            Has been done many, many times over the years - look at Serbia/Bosnia & Herzegovina, Syria, Russia/Ukraine.

            Don't worry, when Israel finally allow some independent parties to go through the wreckage they've left behind, irrefutable numbers will come out and you can think back about this.
            Unfortunately it'll be far too late by then.

            • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 14:02
              +4

              @Deviner:

              Age-old tactic to diminish the death toll being reported by the opposition, to more palatable numbers, to condone atrocities.

              It's an age-old tactic to augment the death toll being reported by the opposition, to huge numbers, to make up atrocities.

              Don't worry, when Israel finally allow some independent parties to go through the wreckage they've left behind, irrefutable numbers will come out and you can think back about this.

              So we are in agreement there are no independent parties in Gaza right now?

              • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 15:03
                +2

                @SolidlyIrresponsible:

                It's an age-old tactic to augment the death toll being reported by the opposition, to huge numbers, to make up atrocities.

                Yep, I'd agree it can go both ways, absolutely.
                We all have only circumstantial evidence to work with currently.

                But we're talking about air strikes into one of the most densely populated areas in the world, where there is no medical aid, hospitals are being bombed, anyone that was on ventilators or babies on incubators are likely dead since there is no electricity and Israel have vehemently denied fuel to be brought in which would run hospital generators, and where Israel have admitted to bombing areas where there are civilians "because Hamas use them as human shields".

                So, do you think the current numbers being reported are more likely to be higher or lower here?

                So we are in agreement there are no independent parties in Gaza right now?

                Outside of news outlets like Al Jazeera, I believe that's mostly the case for the moment.
                Israel were reportedly blocking humanitarian aid originally (which is a common theme), but apparently have let some through now (reportedly a third of the bare minimum amount the UN deemed sufficient to help survivors).

                • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 15:35
                  +1

                  @Deviner:

                  So, do you think the current numbers being reported are more likely to be higher or lower here?

                  Given how Israel is conducting the war, and based on other news articles like the hospital bombing that claimed 500 casualties that the Hamas failed to prove and how hard it is to count casualties on such magnitude in a very short time, I am sure that the figure is much lower in reality.

                  Out of curiosity, what is your way of fighting ISIS like terrorist organization that uses civilian population as human shields?

                  • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 16:12
                    +2

                    @SolidlyIrresponsible: Well, coming from a country that was in a fairly similar situation to Palestine/Gaza, I have a little bit of an understanding.

                    If the occupier is attacked by a terrorist group hailing from the occupied nation, the occupier cannot indiscriminately carpet bomb the occupied nation where they know there is going to be massive collateral damage as a form of collective punishment.
                    That's a war crime that is recognised the world over.
                    That should be the beginning and end to the conversation.

                    With the amount of money, technology, intelligence network and training at the IDF's disposal, they were somehow foiled by a bunch of rag-tag terrorists on motorbikes and paragliders, so the knee-jerk reaction was to just bomb the shit out of everything to save face.

                    All I'll say is, given the above, I would have expected a more surgical approach than the one we've seen, provided their intentions were to keep collateral damage and civilian deaths to a minimum.
                    But we know they don't really care about that so…

                    There's no objective like "we will deem this a success if we can wipe out or cripple Hamas with as few civilian casualties as possible, and without destroying Gaza and it's infrastructure in the process".
                    They're just on a warpath and don't care about anything or anyone.

                    In their perfect world, they'd raze Gaza to the ground and there'd be no way the Palestinians could ever return there after this all ends.

                    • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 16:29
                      +3

                      @Deviner: If what you are saying was correct, that Israel is just carpet bombing and killing indiscriminately, the war would be over 2 weeks ago. Calling for surgical approach on highly hostile environment isn't scalable. The basic military manoeuvre is to soften the area and disarm it as much as possible before land invasion.

                      Having civilian casualties in such action is actually not a war crime, as long as the targets are military. Israel's response is focused on the North of the strip and it provided plenty of time for civilians to clear it. This is something they didn't actually had to do.

                      As for objective, it is been stated loud and clear. Getting rid of Hamas military infrastructure and killing as many terrorists as possible.

                      War isn't pretty but the attacks of 7th of October cannot be remained without a response.

                      Ironically, I think that everything you wrote is largely being executed on the ground and our differences are in what news sources each of us uses.

                      • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 16:40
                        +2

                        @SolidlyIrresponsible: Listen, I'm open minded and I'm also open for debate and to be educated.

                        We're on the same page with regards removing Hamas from the picture.

                        We're obviously not on the same page with regards the war crimes though.
                        Do you skirt the war crime allegation if you bomb an area with 1,000 civilians if you can claim that it contained 1 military target?

                        Where I take issue is with how this "defence" is being executed by the IDF, their ulterior motives (they don't care if they ruin all of Gaza or wipe out the population) and the fact they've been poking the bear for decades leading up to October 7th.

                        I totally understand in a normal "war", air strikes etc are performed first and then the ground troops mop up the rest.
                        But this isn't a normal war - this is a terrorist organisation embedded inside a population of a tiny piece of land living in squalor, largely as a result of Israel to begin with.
                        And at what point can you say "OK, the number of civilian casualties is too much", especially considering the dire state Gaza was in prior to the attacks, and the fact there is a huge number of kids in their population.

                        • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 16:50
                          +3

                          @Deviner: You are touching the question of "proportionality" in a war. Judging by history, such questions of proportionality are rarely, if ever, are being asked of other countries in conflicts. When the Allies bombed Dresden or Nazi's bombed London, nobody asked if these attacks are proportional. Just like if tomorrow China bombs Australia, nobody is going to start calculating a proportional and moral response.

                          There is no room for morality in war because you are putting yourself in danger. The only place you should look for morality is in your enemy.

                          This war needs to end by Hamas being totally defeated and wiped out. Anything but that will cause another replay of this war in few years. There is no other way out of this situation.

          • Thejedi on 31/10/2023 - 20:16
            +3

            @SolidlyIrresponsible: What's happening in the Westbank though? No hamas there yet over 100 Palestinians killed?and i'm not going to buy the whole 'focussing on the northern strip". Israel literally bombed the rafah border crossing in southern Gaza. Their campaign is an intentional one, and they're definitely not 'trying' to minimise casualities. They're bombing indiscriminately because they know, theres no one that can stop them. With their billions of funding yearly from the US and the fact that any condemnation gets Vetoed by the US in the UN. So i doubt they care about the manner of which they are bombing.

            • SolidlyIrresponsible on 01/11/2023 - 11:04
              +1

              @Thejedi:

              What's happening in the Westbank though?

              In the West Bank there is Hamas and Fatah (which share the same ideological goals as Hamas just with less religion).

              Israel literally bombed the rafah border crossing in southern Gaza

              The Rafah border crossing seem to be just fine in the Youtube stream showing it.

              • Thejedi on 01/11/2023 - 19:52

                @SolidlyIrresponsible: Incorrect on both points. The authority in the Westbank is the Palestinian authority albeit meaningless since there is Israeli military control of the area - hence the term occupied palestinian terroritories. So you didn't really answer my question and tried to shift the direction elsewhere with some makeshift answer. So now that we have hopefully established that hamas has no authority in the westbank. Why are the IDF still killing palestinians there and allowing settlers to threaten and attack palestinians as well? You did not answer, hamas is to blame for that as well?

                And as for the rafah border, it only opened up in the last couple weeks. Before that it was the target of israeli air raids, egypt's government mentioned that was a primary reason for the delay in opening.

                "Gaza’s sole border crossing with Egypt, the only entry point not controlled by Israel, has been hit again by an Israeli air raid, reports say.

                The third attack on the Rafah crossing in 24 hours consisted of “four missiles” that targeted the Palestinian side of the crossing, local Egyptian group Sinai for Human Rights said"

          • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 00:06

            @SolidlyIrresponsible: it's the isrralis that are hell bent on killing every Palestinian. they are driving them to the brink of extinction, Zionism is Nazism

            • SolidlyIrresponsible on 01/11/2023 - 11:05

              @subwoofer: There are over 5M Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank so your claims of extinction/genocide/ethical cleansing do not pass any facts on the ground.

    • gto21 on 31/10/2023 - 12:26
      +7

      The challenge Israel faces is that if they halt the war, Hamas will regroup with aid to prepare for the next conflict. Hamas wants a ceasefire when they are on the losing side, but their ultimate goal is not peace.

      • BLAIL on 31/10/2023 - 12:57
        +4

        yeah it's in their doctrine to wipe out Israel - so Israel has gotta get rid of them out now. Get the PA back in charge.

  • x x on 31/10/2023 - 13:13
    +3

    It's amazing the Jews are doing the same thing that happened to them in WW2 and creating open air prisons, apartheid, mass murder of civilians (more than half are children), carpet bombing, ethnic cleansing, dehumanisation etc etc

    • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 16:42

      Ironic! Since jewishness is a religious characteristic, not a racial characteristic, you'd think their belief in humanitarian religious values would preclude them from barbarous acts, rather than apparently be a how to do it guide.

      Or am I misunderstanding something… does the jewish religion not have humanitarian values?

  • Wally on 31/10/2023 - 13:58
    +2

    The IDF used overwhelming force to dislodge Hamas in Israel on 7/10 .. knowing it's own citizens (non-combatants & soldiers) were in the target zones ie 50% of losses were Israelis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqmADgbEJI

  • altiarlio on 31/10/2023 - 13:59
    +5

    Imagine having 7/10 happen to your nation and the entire worlds media and vocal minority go out and protest and celebrate for the ones who did it and the ones who have punished you for thousands of years.

    • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 16:47
      +2

      "the ones who have punished you for thousands of years."
      This phrase stands alone as evidence of thinking divorced from reality.

      Combine that with great military power as a result of us military aid, and we get the chaos that has been occurring in the middle east since 1945.

      "Imagine having 7/10 happen to your nation and the entire worlds media and vocal minority go out and protest" is a bit like a sniper assassin or road rage murderer complaining "look! the victim's brother punched me".

  • ozsj on 31/10/2023 - 14:10
    +4

    Off topic, average games.

    • Dreamcast on 31/10/2023 - 14:10

      Prob the most on topic post lol.

  • penno2 on 31/10/2023 - 14:26
    +2

    Hard to be reasonably sure money won't end up funding more Hamas terrorism.

  • newti on 31/10/2023 - 14:35
    +3

    Not sure how they are going to achieve aid to Palestinians where movement within the strip is heavily controlled by HAMAS. There is a serious change the majority of this 'charity' will be interdicted by HAMAS and wrongfully used.

    Rather use my money to buy OzBargain Coffee deals that have my money used for war.

    Sidenote: You want to see the real effects of the war? Head to Funker530 You will be perpetuating this one way shape or form if you dont think before giving your money away.

    If you want to donate to a war effort - Donate to Ukraine where the facts are very specific and there are verified channels that actually get to the people in need.

    Also - The games are poop

    • gamemaster on 31/10/2023 - 15:30
      +1

      if you don’t want to give aid to the Palestinian why not call the Israelis for a ceasefire? After all it’s their bombings which have killed over 8000 civilians. Or do you not see innocent civilians including 3000+ children being killed as an issue?

      • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 15:39
        +6

        And why do you not call for Hamas to surrender? There will be a ceasefire when Hamas return the hostages and surrenders. After all it's their actions that lead to the bombing of Gaza.

        • gamemaster on 31/10/2023 - 15:42
          +3

          Again my question is about Palestinian civilians.
          As I said it’s the Israeli bombs which are killing them. Are you ok with innocent Palestinian civilians being killed? It’s a pretty simple yes or no question.

          • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 15:47
            +5

            @gamemaster: I'm not ok with ANY innocent civilians being killed. And the only way that's happening is when Hamas is taken out. If there is a ceasefire, it will only embolden hamas and they will take the time to strengthen themselves and kill more Israelis in future. If you're ok with Israelis being killed but not Palestinians, then youre anti-semitic. Or else the only way to preserve lives on both sides is if Hamas surrenders.

            • gamemaster on 31/10/2023 - 16:00
              +4

              @j0hnd0e: If you are not okay with any civilians being killed then did you speak out against Israelis killing 200 innocent civilians this year prior to 7/10. Or have you jumped on the Israeli propaganda bandwagon.

              The reality is no mater what Palestinians do, Israeli wants to wipe them off the map. They are currently using hamas as the excuse for the genocide.

              1000 innocent children are killed each week by Israeli bombing. That’s not self defence, that is genocide.

              • gto21 on 31/10/2023 - 16:10
                +3

                @gamemaster: Hamas wants the genocide of Jews.

                Here's the dilemma. The problem is that if you decide to protect your child. The enemy hides behind his child. So what would you do? Let your child die or kill the enemy?

                • gamemaster on 31/10/2023 - 21:41
                  +2

                  @gto21: Those are Israeli lies and war time propaganda. There is no proof of any “human shields”. Israel just uses it as an excuse to kill as many Palestinians as they can. It’s collective punishment which is a war crime.

                  There is footage of the IDF bulldozing a man’s bathroom fittings business. Targeting a bakery which was supplying Palestine bread. That isn’t targeting Hamas, that’s punishing innocent civilians. These are war crimes. You can’t blame hamas for that, Israel are solely responsible.

                  To be ok with thousands of children being killed is akin to support Hitler during the holocaust. Making excuses for genocide and seeing the enemy as not being human. It’s quite disgusting that 1000 children are killed each week and some people are ok with it let alone justifying it.

                  • gto21 on 31/10/2023 - 21:57
                    +1

                    @gamemaster: To date, the only instance of misinformation I've come across seems to originate from Hamas. Even when evidence from Al Jazeera and other independent sources confirms that Israel is telling the truth, Israel continues to face allegations of dishonesty. Claiming fake news means nothing, as I don't think there's a way to convince people in certain cases that it's not fake news.

              • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 16:13
                +5

                @gamemaster:

                1. The Hamas charter is to kill all Jews, so I support Israel's right to defend themselves by doing whatever they need to to eradicate Hamas. It sucks that innocent civilians are being killed but Israel's main priority is it's citizens, not the Palestinians. Like I mentioned before, thousands of civilians lives can be saved if Hamas surrenders.

                2. Prior to 7/10, Hamas has been firing rockets into Israel on a regular basis, and even targeted an Israeli hospital. The only reason why there aren't as many deaths in Israel compared to Palestine is because Israel spends money protecting their citizens, while Hamas uses their citizens as human shields. Do you expect Israel not to retaliate when Hamas fires rocket over?

                3. Israel has been extremely restrained in their attacks after 7/10. Given their military prowess and weapons, they can level gaza overnight. So don't give me that bs that Israel wants to wipe Palestinians off the map.

                • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 16:43
                  +4

                  @j0hnd0e: Ur a dangerous human that supports genocide and killing of babies and civilians. Should be reported to the police I would fear for my safety being in the same community as you.

                  • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 16:54
                    +4

                    @[Deactivated]: In that case you're a dangerous human that supports a terrorist group, genocide and the killing of babies and civilians as well. And just so you know Hamas is designated as a terror group by Australia so you might want to watch yourself or you might just end up on a terrorist watchlist :)

                    • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 17:07
                      +2

                      @j0hnd0e: I have no comments explaining how death of civilians in any of this topic is acceptable. But I have screen shots of ur posts, if a mass shooter starts killing innocents in Australia because they don’t support ur ideology guess what, ur suspect #1.

                      • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 17:19
                        +4

                        @[Deactivated]: Of course you don't because you're anti-semitic and you don't care about the lives of Israeli. I, on the other hand care about the lives of both sides so I call for Hamas to surrender so there can be a ceasefire :)

                        • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 17:22
                          +4

                          @j0hnd0e: U don’t care about Palestinian lives mate ur post before justifying the killing of their babies is horrible. My heart goes out to all civilians. Don’t try to label me as anti semitic because ur anti Muslim Islamophobic killing of innocent Muslim babies ideology. U can’t make ur self look good anymore u stuffed up.

                          • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 17:25
                            +2

                            @[Deactivated]: I call for Hamas to surrender so there can be a ceasefire and lives on both sides will be spared, meanwhile you want Israel to let Hamas flourish and kill more jews. You're the one making a fool out of yourself and showing what an anti-semite you are.

                • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 16:47
                  +1

                  @j0hnd0e: Terrorist alert. This person does not experience any empathy to killing of civilians and instead finds ways to justify it. Very dangerous ideology. Be safe people. People like this man are walking around claiming to be normal people.

                  • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 16:50
                    +4

                    @[Deactivated]: The simplicity and irrationality of this poster is disturbing.
                    Should a report be made to a competent medical authority?

                    • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 16:52
                      +1

                      @rooster7777: Ur right I’m irrational because I have an issue with babies and innocent humans dying. Completely normal to think otherwise.

                      • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 17:38

                        @[Deactivated]: Your irrationality is about why people are dying… you fail to recognise that jews invaded lands that were not theirs in 1945, fought and killed the british "peacekeepers" and civilians with terrorist acts, and have continued illegal and immoral acts since then.

                        I understand a compassion for people being killed, but your strident comments about the cause of those deaths is where you fail to apply logic.

                    • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 16:55
                      +3

                      @rooster7777: He's supporting a terrorist group and should be placed on a terror watchlist.

                      • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 16:56

                        @j0hnd0e: You’re the one supporting the death of thousands of civilians. U got terrorist ideology written all over you. I support peace and love.

                        • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 17:21
                          +5

                          @[Deactivated]: If peace and love means Hamas killing jews then yeah you support peace and love.

                          • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 17:27
                            +1

                            @j0hnd0e: Ur idea of peace is killing? That’s insane. U need help.

                            • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 17:31
                              +5

                              @[Deactivated]: My idea of peace is for Hamas, a designated TERRORIST group to surrender so there can be a ceasefire and loss of lives can be prevented on both sides. I can't be any clearer. Meanwhile you support Hamas killing innocent jews, and claim that is peace? I think you need help way more…

                              • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 17:34
                                +1

                                @j0hnd0e: U can’t play down ur ideology mate anymore. I know u probably regret what u said but it’s not okay to justify loss of innocent babies and civilians anywhere in the world, not for hommous and not for Israel. It’s unfortunate this is happening so maybe the most human thing to do is hope there’s a ceasefire followed by a peaceful resolution.

                                • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 17:37
                                  +3

                                  @[Deactivated]: I'm not playing down my ideology and I don't regret a single thing I said. Hamas MUST be defeated. If they want to fight and use Palestinians as civilian shields, it's not Israel's fault.

                                  • Thejedi on 31/10/2023 - 20:05

                                    @j0hnd0e: What's happening in the Westbank though? No hamas there yet over 100 Palestinians killed.

                • gamemaster on 31/10/2023 - 21:44
                  +1

                  @j0hnd0e:

                  Israel has been extremely restrained in their attacks after 7/10. Given their military prowess and weapons, they can level gaza overnight. So don't give me that bs that Israel wants to wipe Palestinians off the map.

                  That is Israeli propaganda and lies.

                  Simple question. Do you condemn Israel killing 1000 innocent Palestinian children each week with out making excuses? Yes or No?

                • Thejedi on 31/10/2023 - 21:53

                  @j0hnd0e: there's no hamas in the west bank. What's your excuse for the killings sns settler violence there? Have you seen all the videos of israeli settlers celebrating and wishing death on palestinians. A government, its militiary and its people want the death of all palestinians.

                  No nation including the US could give an excuse for a complete levelling. Israel isnt stupid to do that. They do it systematically. Have you not seen expansion of the occupation in the the last 70 years Just look at the historical map!

                  The fact that you believe that they have been self restrained is both naive and ill informed. You need to educate yourself!

    • jonow83 on 01/11/2023 - 11:13

      Sad being an aid worker in Palestine:

      https://www.jems.com/operations/ambulances-vehicle-ops/hamas…

  • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 16:58
    +5

    You literally wrote up ur justification of the killings of innocent civilians and babies. Crazy that people like you walk free in the streets with the potential of harm. Killing any innocent humans is not acceptable by any means. I’m not political, I’m a human being.

    • gto21 on 31/10/2023 - 17:08
      +5

      We do have individuals in the streets uttering the phrases like "gas the jews" or "Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud.'"

      • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 17:10
        +1

        Any acts or promotion of such violence is not acceptable. Sad to see this happening.

        • j0hnd0e on 31/10/2023 - 17:20
          +5

          But you support Hamas which calls for the death of all jews. How unfortunate

          • [Deactivated] on 31/10/2023 - 17:29

            @j0hnd0e: Again I support love and peace. My prayers go out to the safety of the communities that have to live in fear because of people like ur self.

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