So, I was chatting it up with someone at the Tesla Dealership about getting a pre-loved Tesla X.
They mentioned that the simplified design of a Tesla is one of its advantages, as it reduces the possibility of automotive components malfunctioning. As a result, this lowers the likelihood of costly repairs and maintenance.
I can't help but wonder, though, was there some/any truth to their smooth talk?
There's one direct from Tesla at $53K drive away with 115Kms on the dial lol. Still with ~3 years battery warranty.
Give it another year and these used Tesla 3's will be worth half what they are being advertised for now. There is so much competition with the new Dolphin and MG4 the used Tesla market will drop hard.
Looked at it before I got the Yaris, IMO you have less freedom, it's harder with apartment life for sure, they'll find a way to make you pay somehow and yeah ended up with a Yaris, don't feel like the battery technology or infastructure are there just yet
I wouldn't get an electric car unless it was brand new and on a lease. The tech is still fairly new and the longevity of these vehicles and their components are still a bit unknown in a real world scenario.
Yeah, and the competition is heating up which will put pressure on prices. In 5-10 years is when EV's will become more attractive to buy
They mentioned that the simplified design of a Tesla is one of its advantages, as it reduces the possibility of automotive components malfunctioning. As a result, this lowers the likelihood of costly repairs and maintenance.
Its funny then that the automotive repair industry says Teslas' complicated design means it is substantially more expensive to repair in similar crashes to ICE cars, and even more expensive than other EVs. The electronic system have to not just replaced, they have to be calibrated and realigned or they don't work properly.
You mean the same automotive repair industry that has a substantial proportion of its workforce only trained on ICE vehicles.
I’m all for raising concerns but the bias in that one is through the roof.
Yes, telsa cars use special suspension which is no where near regular peasant car suspension, therfore it never wears out.
There's some truth to it yeah. A lot more can fail on ICE vehicles, especially with all the emission crap bolted on.
Hybrids would be the worst in terms of complexity and chances of failure.
Electric motors are pretty simple.
The batteries are still the expensive question.
Unless you need the third row, i would just get the Model Y. I'm waiting for the X (if it ever comes) and went through the same route as you. New Model Y or old Model X. Chose the MY.
pre-loved
BETTER DEEP CLEAN IT ..
I always laugh when I see drivers in their EVs parked at the street of servo refuel playing on their phone . Waiting and waiting
I always laugh when I see drivers in their EVs parked at the street of servo refuel playing on their phone . Waiting and waiting
Servo? What are you doing at a servo?
EV owners usually "refill" overnight at home for $5.
Meanwhile a full tank on my car now costs $115. Sigh.
Maybe they need to recharge
You get the convenience of time, knowing you’ve kept one new car off the road, saving precious materials and production emissions
Most EV owners recharge at home.
They probably always laugh when they see drivers in their cars at servos paying $115 for a tank of fuel.
Paying and paying.
:)
@grasstown: For a daily driver? About as much as a tank of petrol, depending on the model of EV and petrol car. How often do you need to refuel?
The infrastructure is there for long-distance drives, but it does require some planning ahead.
Daily driving is where EVs really shine right now. It will not suit everyone's driving scenarios, but it absolutely fits many people very well.
That's what I don't understand about the anti-EV brigade. I don't have an EV and don't have any plans to get one anytime soon, but I can absolutely see how they will work really well for some people but not at all for others.
I really don't understand why there are people who think "It doesn't make any sense for me, therefore it cannot make sense for anybody else. My way is the only way anybody should use their car."
You know a Tesla supercharger can charge to 98% in 30mins from. 5%. For approx $15.
Charging at home, with a smart metre would cost $3-4.
I don’t have an EV but taking time out for yourself isn’t the worst thing in this busy life we all live.
$3-4 for 5% to 98% charge on say a Tesla M3? That's some advance inter-dimensional maths. $3-4 will get you about 10kWh in my corner of Australia.
Do you have a smart metre and off peak rates? Huge savings to be made with timed chargings.
They mentioned that the simplified design of a Tesla is one of its advantages, as it reduces the possibility of automotive components malfunctioning. As a result, this lowers the likelihood of costly repairs and maintenance.
I'll leave this drive.com.au article here.
How often do you plan to crash your cars?
Never. But I also don't drive an electric car, not do I plan on doing it any time soon.
But if they say "electric cars cost 25 per cent more to repair than petrol, diesel vehicles", then you would assume that insurance for electric vehicles would be 25% higher compared to petrol/diesel vehicles.
They didn’t say that in the article at all. Crikey.
As efficient and cool as they may be a used 10k ICE car is FAR more cost effective than a 50k+ EV.
Which ICE car costs $10k?
100% my 5 yr old cx-5 is still worth approx $30k
Out of interest, if they whacked a small 3kw generator in the car somewhere (like a camping one) with a small amount of fuel (which could generate approx 1km of travel per minute, for say up to 30km before being refilled). Would people have less range anxiety and more likely buy an EV. Seems logical to me.
Up until now you could travel the country and book accom with a charger. But now the chargers have a que. Not a given u will get a charge. Always someone who leaves their car on charge overnight (as the charger locks to the car). So 30km might get you to a nearby fast charger etc.
Alternatively, make the roof solar panels, with a fold out booster panel in the frunk. Just have to wait…eventually you will get range.
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Put the crack pipe and keyboard down you've had enough internet for today.
Take that as a no..haha.
We.have petrol hybrids with small batteries. Electric Hybrids make more sense to me with a small generator (3kw is around shoe box size), or a modular expanding solar roof (see the Stella vita for an extreme example).
Based on driving a PHEV for a few years..and can charge off 2 solar panels (660 watts activates the onboard charger). These 2 panels will fill the battery 70% while parked during a normal working day.
So I'm mostly electric driving, but still lug a big ICE engine around….which I still need for an 800km drive to inland Australia once a month (no chargers ..or even electricity up there..apart from my own PHEV (240v devices..ie. Coffee machine etc runs off the car. Theres no way I'd head to the middle of Australia without a transportable fuel source (cant carry a jerry can of electrons that will do 50+km under 10kg).
An Electric car with 900 odd Km range + a fuel backup, or solar roof….take my money.
As per words of the Stella Vita builders (roof solar powered electric RV).. "its a different.way of thinking". For some reason we keep sheep buying to full ICE vehicles and not demanding a better and to me, obvious way.
Out of interest, if they whacked a small 3kw generator in the car somewhere (like a camping one) with a small amount of fuel (which could generate approx 1km of travel per minute, for say up to 30km before being refilled). Would people have less range anxiety and more likely buy an EV. Seems logical to me.
Something like this?
Followed by this.
You wouldnt see the generator. Plenty of room under an ev where mufflers etc used to live..It would look like ..a car.
As for a self charging solar car.. The Dutch have gone with this..
https://www.drive.com.au/news/lightyear-one-solar-powered-el…
The stella vita RV (which has more solar than my house), looks like this.
https://www.google.com/search?q=stella+vita&oq=stella+vita
Good example of how a skinny roof could be 3 wide, then retract while driving. Dont need it unless you are living in it. But proof of concept.
Secondhand , the first thing i'd talk about is "Battery Replacement" cost out of Warranty…
Anyone spruiking electric cars is safely ignored.
How much life is left on the battery?
They are $$$ to replace.
To All EV owners, Thank you for your service in Saving the Planet.
LOL!
Does that mean I can keep
Running my 6.2l petrol guilt free now that EV has saved us?
Wow you must think anyone driving EVs are loaded if you imagine people spend 60k to do their part in "saving the planet"
Newsflash, that's just your imagination.
Most people buy EVs based on multiple criteria just like buying any other cars. No clue why people like you can't process that lol
The main issue would be the battery. I heard that its quite expensive replacing it.
Do you have to buy it now? If you can wait. BYD seal will put downward pressure on the used model 3. This also go for BYD Seal U and upcoming Chinese brand coming out. Alternatively if you need the size. Volvo releasing their EV MPV soon or a Kia Ev9
Since childhood I always had a dream to own a car with wings, X was the only option. But I seen this post yesterday which have me hope
I was chatting it up with someone at the Tesla Dealership
A owner or someone working for Tesla?
As always do your own research. Run it past someone with common sense, if they can't make sense of it then it probably isn't going to work.
Always remember you are looking at a $100k ++ vehicle with a "battery" as part of the "consumables". By a lot of accounts repairs of teslas are more expensive than a similar ICE counterparts and insurance prices reflect that.
Would you buy a $100k++ ICE vehicle that may be on it's way for some expensive repairs?
Would you buy a $100k++ ICE vehicle that may be on it's way for some expensive repairs?
Wait till you find out what happens to Mercedes and BMWs after 5 years. ;)
I think theres less moving parts in an EV, less systems attached to the engine. Though I real problem I see with Telsa is theres no aftermarket replacement parts for anything so everything that needs to be replaced over the lifetime will be from the dealer. Advantage Telsa. This is fairly similar to buying many European marks though. Perhap there may be enough around for wreckers to come into play for non consumables.
I think you have to purchase with a 10 year expected life of the car in mind. 15 Years tops.
I imagine Telsa 3 Performance will drop heavy from 55-60k when the Seal is released.
They're like 65-67k new? I definitely am buying a used Telsa Performance 3 of it gets low 40s.
Currently one at 45k, with 225kms on the dial 🤣