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Free calls to Israel, the Palestinian Territories and Afghanistan
We're making it easier to stay in touch with friends and family in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

If you’re a Telstra customer with family and friends in the Middle East or Afghanistan, we know that getting in touch is what’s most important right now, not the cost of the call. That’s why calls are now free from Australia to Israel, the Palestinian territories, or Afghanistan.

From 12:01am AEDT tonight (Wednesday, 11 October), we’ll be providing free calls to Israel, the Palestinian territories, and Afghanistan to help you get in touch with those you care about.

This applies for both pre-paid and post-paid mobiles as well as home phones and will be free until 24 October.

Please keep the comments respectful

I am posting for anyone that might find this useful.

Update: Extended for another month.

Update, 24 October: We have been closely monitoring the situation in the Middle East and Afghanistan and know how important staying connected with loved ones is right now. We have made the decision to extend free calls to until 11:59pm AEDT on 21 November 2023.

Update, 21 November 2023: We have been watching the heartbreaking situation in the Middle East, and know that continued connection with family, friends and loved ones is what’s critical for many of our customers right now. To help support you, we’re extending free calls to Israel and the Palestinian territories to 21 January 2024.

Update, 21 November 2023: At the time this offer was published, we also offered free calls to Afghanistan following a series of devastating earthquakes. As the region moves into recovery phase, we won’t be further extending free calls to Afghanistan.

Update, 19 January 2024: We know how important it is for many of our customers in Australia to continue to stay connected with this region right now. To help support you, we're again extending this offer of free calls to Israel and the Palestinian Territories until 31 March 2024.

Update, 26 March 2024: We know staying as connected as possible with friends and loved ones in these regions remains critical. That's why we're extending free calls to Israel and the Palestinian territories until 30 June 2024.

This applies for both pre-paid and post-paid mobiles as well as home phones and will be free until 30 June 2024.

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              • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 11:16
                +1

                @johnfuller: yep the truth all right… for any Arab state. I'm not pro death at all, just pro common sense. If you're silly enough to pick a fight with a stronger nation over the fence, don't cry poor when you are taken down by your own hatred.

                • Ilikecars on 13/10/2023 - 12:31
                  +3

                  @pauliau: If an extremist group based in Australia blew up landmarks and killed civilians in another country, would you consider it acceptable for that country to wage war on all of Australia and Australian people?

                  That's what's happening in Gaza.

            • prhino on 13/10/2023 - 12:28
              +6

              @pauliau: Don't just take @johnfuller 's word for that Israeli is committing apartheid, take the word of Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, UN human rights experts, B'Tselem (Israeli organisation), Yesh Din (Israeli organisation), International Federation for Human Rights.

              • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:32
                +2

                @prhino: nah he wont believe it anyway, in his eyes, israel has a right to defend itself after they created this problem to begin with

              • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 12:52
                -3

                @prhino: As always, a case of 'he said', 'she said'. All depends on which side of the fence you are on…
                But who do you believe?? The side that's run by terrorists, who's one agenda in life is to eradicate all Israeli people from the planet, while using their own native people as missile sheilds while they hide underground? Or the other side which is civil, has a law abiding government and works and governs along side all other peacful nations on this planet. Hmm, it's a tough one.

                • prhino on 13/10/2023 - 13:10
                  +5

                  @pauliau: No, it's not a case 'he said', 'she said'. These are impartial organisations, including some Israeli organisations.

                  So @johnfuller was right, even faced with the facts, you won't accept anything that doesn't suit your narrative.

                • Techie4066 on 13/10/2023 - 13:17
                  +4

                  @pauliau:

                  Or the other side which is civil, has a law abiding government and works and governs along side all other peacful nations on this planet.

                  The one with a fascist government? Has a military that conducts a mass shooting in a mosque every Ramadan? Snipes journalists? Bombs Syrian airports? So graciously "roof knocks" before blowing out civilian buildings? Bulldozes and drags people out of Palestinian homes to create settlements? Denies 2 million civilians food, water, electricity, communications and an escape route? Commits a war crime by using white phosphorous on innocent civilians?

              • Roe Jogan on 13/10/2023 - 20:35
                +1

                @prhino: lol FACTS! but I have a feeling this @pauliau has made it very clear that he hates Palestine, gaza and its inhabitants and is a full Zionist supporter going by his comments on this post he is a full supporter of an apartheid state.

                Basically what the Zionists blame hitter for 75 years ago, which was a genocide, that's exactly what they are doing to the Palestinians, and our governments are in full support. well AU rides uncle sams D so what ever usa does we have to follow.

  • mrkorrupt on 13/10/2023 - 09:47
    +1

    Watch Al Jazeera see all the dead Palestinian children closing in on 500 but arab children are okay to be killed whether it be by the settlers in the past few years or the IDF.

    No child should be killed on either side

    • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 10:07

      No one should be killed, animals get better treatment.

      Israel needs to treat gazans the same, and allow gazans to have their own government, access to their own water, access to their own electricity ..

      Palestinian homes are being stolen by Israel for the past 75 years, these are taken by people coming from america with a jewish bloodlone.

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/4/if-i-dont-steal-your…

      • SolidlyIrresponsible on 13/10/2023 - 11:15
        +4

        and allow gazans to have their own government

        They literally have their own government. It's the Hamas. Go read a book about the area and stop reading twitter.

        • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:17

          incorrect, hamas is not a government, they are a movement against the illegal occupation by israel

          • SolidlyIrresponsible on 13/10/2023 - 12:21
            +2

            @johnfuller: So who won the 2006 Palestinian election? You can try gaslight the clueless but it's not a secret…

          • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 12:29
            +1

            @johnfuller: Yes correct, they are not a government in any sense, they are a terroist organisation. But they were chosen and supported by the Palestinian people as they uphold and represent the same values.

            • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:31

              @pauliau: they are the only form of military that gaza has, against the oppression, they'll accept any form of fighting power you can get, if i steal your house, lock up your children for no reason, sexualy abuse your women for no reason, what would you do ? thats the reality for gazans

  • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 10:10
    +5

    ⚡️According to a source in Gaza, 71 Palestinian families have been completely erased from all public records after all their members got killed by zionist regime strikes on Gaza.

    This is genocide.

    • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 11:24
      +3

      Quote: "⚡️According to a source in Gaza..", 'John Fuller reporting - Al Jazeera news, good night'..

      • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 11:57
        +1

        go and watch the live feed, oh thats fake too? hah good one

  • baybaboy on 13/10/2023 - 11:20
    +1

    The Israel's call Palestinians animals.
    They wanted this war. They will kill innocent Palestinians in Gaza, destroy the infrastructure, once finish, they will take over the land, rebuild and put their people there.
    The funny thing is, the western leaders thinks it's okay and supporting them when they know it's illegal.

    • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 11:26
      +1

      Well it was theirs to start with buddy. And you know what; that's kind of how countries are created since forever. A war between conflicting parties. The stronger one wins, and then it's theirs. simple!

    • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 11:28
      +1

      Hamas use Palestinian as human shield.

    • fredblogs on 13/10/2023 - 20:18

      They can't put their people in Gaza, there are 2 million Palestinians there.

  • nghori on 13/10/2023 - 11:24

    I see a lot of support for war crimes (such a collective punishment). Hamas should not respond but Israel can and should. Double standards much! If you have had this stance then know that you think that the Palestinians are sub human.

    Very ironic specially if you are voting Yes in the referendum.

    • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 11:26
      +3

      Hamas use them as human shield.

      • nghori on 13/10/2023 - 11:33

        So I guess you also see Israeli civilians as collateral damage too and are OK with it? And if you are against collateral damage that then you would be against Israeli attacks that kill civilians too? Or would you justify it?. Would justify war crimes too (collective punishment but the blockade)? Would it be ok for the other side to respond with war crimes too or is that only reserved for European looking people?

        • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 11:42
          +1

          Human shields involve intentionally placing civilians in harm's way as a tactic, while collateral damage is unintended harm that occurs despite efforts to avoid it.

          Hamas targeted civilians and raped them.

          • nghori on 13/10/2023 - 12:00

            @gto21: I see you are ok with collective punishment and killing of civilians if they are Palestinian (or probably even if not of European descent). That was my original point.

            I would ask you to put yourself in the Palestinians in the Gaza strip and let me know what they can do to defend themselves (over the decades, not just today). Do they deserve freedom or not? Who can they take their grievances too? Are you going to be making excuses again to treat them as sub-human?

            Also if you keep an open mind look at both sides and do not just take whatever is fed by the main media.

            • Iwantthatbargain on 13/10/2023 - 12:08
              +1

              @nghori: As far as the current crisis is concerned, Hamas is responsible to start this, they fired 5000 rockets, slaughtered 1000 civilians, many women were raped, babies beheaded. Most Hamas leaders are underground, supported by Iranians. But the poor Palestinians civilians are suffering

              • alz on 13/10/2023 - 12:13
                -1

                @Iwantthatbargain: It started in 1948

                • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 12:36
                  +1

                  @alz: Actually it started long before that. They just use that as an excuse for war mongering.

              • nghori on 13/10/2023 - 12:59

                @Iwantthatbargain: Why start at the current conflict? Why no start at the day after the Hamas attack. Why did Israel respond? Context is very important. Do not make excuses for war crimes. My original point is just being re-enforced. One side can act with impunity hence the current situation we are in.

                • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 13:15
                  +3

                  @nghori: Hamas started this one.

            • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 12:19
              +3

              @nghori: If I were to imagine myself in Palestinians position, I would not desire Hamas as a leader, nor would I ever show disrespect towards a woman's deceased body after Hamas raped her.

              • nghori on 13/10/2023 - 13:00

                @gto21: Fake info. But you didn't answer my question. You are ok with war crimes and collateral damage but if and only if done by one side?

                • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 13:20
                  +2

                  @nghori: It's not collateral damage - Hamas targets civilians, kills them, rape them and kidnaps them. They also use Palestinians as human shields. I'm against the killing of both innocent Palestinians and Jews.

                  You appear indifferent to the fact that Hamas employs Palestinians as human shields

                  • nghori on 16/10/2023 - 15:33

                    @gto21: Suppose you are correct and there are human shields. So you know that there are human shields and you re fine to kill them on purpose. If there was a siege you would kill the 1000's of hostages per perpetrator. Or do you not consider Palestinians as human and its OK to kill them in the name of revenge?

                • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 13:21
                  +1

                  @nghori: Do you also believe that the Hamas Charter is fraudulent?

          • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:20
            +1

            @gto21: raped? no. thats the american and israeli propaganda that they fed you, you are fed with fake atrocities so they have a reason to kill the innocent

      • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:19
        +1

        no they dont, thats israeli defence force using children as a human shield, they literally tie children to their tankers and jeeps

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/21/israeli-soldie…

        • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 12:22

          Hamas operated under a hospital.

          • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:56
            +3

            @gto21: incorrect again, thats what israel told you, just so they can hit a hospital and kill the injured getting hospital care.. recently people were receiving messages from IDF to move to a specific location for shelter and moments later the same "shelter" was hit by IDF..

            • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 12:58

              @johnfuller: No Hamas tell them not to move.

              • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:58
                -2

                @gto21: incorrect again..

                yesterday they said the beheading of children was false and never happened .. now today they're saying hamas burnt babies .. more lies .. if true, probably palestinian children .

            • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 12:58

              @johnfuller: Do you also believe that the Hamas Charter is fraudulent? Can we have confidence in what Hamas proclaims? Perhaps it's counterfeit as well. The genuine Hamas charter advocates for peace and amicable relations with Jews in Israel.

              • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 12:59
                -1

                @gto21: hamas released prisoners' a few days ago, they have more humanity than israel combined

                • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 13:17

                  @johnfuller: Do you also believe that the Hamas Charter is fraudulent?

                  • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 13:48

                    @gto21: i think they have more humanity and more trustworthy than israel

                    • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 14:05

                      @johnfuller: Is 9/11 fake as well?

                      • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 15:47

                        @gto21: no 9/11 is not fake, influenced by usa, so they could invade iraq, likely

            • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 14:32
              +2

              @johnfuller: Hamas are hippies, throwing flowers at the Jews, you successfully persuaded me that they are not terrorists; it's all fake.

              • johnfuller on 13/10/2023 - 15:47

                @gto21: cool story

              • nghori on 16/10/2023 - 15:39

                @gto21: Charter can say anything but the reality on the ground is that Israel wants the land (are you against settlements?) and doesn't want the people (or will lose its Zionist majority). Hence the apartheid and the ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank.
                Also Nelson Mandela was also declared a terrorist when fighting apartheid. So don't believe everything you see on the media.

                Currently we are seeing a genocide not unlike the one in Germany many decades ago. People sat back and watched making excuses then and we are repeating history. Ironically the victims then are the perpetrators now, and they are taking their revenge on a different people. Not a Jewish scholar but I am sure it will have similar teaching to the other major religions and that this would not be allowed in in their religion. Zionists are not Jews.

            • fredblogs on 13/10/2023 - 20:45

              @johnfuller: Hamas using hospital as a base: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital#Use_by_Hamas

              • johnfuller on 14/10/2023 - 08:22

                @fredblogs: who is wikipedia written and maintained by? i think most of what wikipedia writes is the truth but when it comes to certain areas, its just based off hearsay, they should provide evidence if they make a bold claim like that

  • mitty on 13/10/2023 - 12:00

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  • pauliau on 13/10/2023 - 13:10
    -3

    Ok, so probably time to call quits on the comments of this 'Deal'. Not only gone way far off topic, but some members clearly only want to use this forum for spreading their political hate propaganda. Move along…. |

    • Toffcuz on 13/10/2023 - 14:29
      +4

      You move along you zionist

  • stockpimp on 13/10/2023 - 13:13
    +1

    Hamas = ISIS. (in that they are both brutal terrorist regimes).

    Imaging supporting ISIS.

    ISIS was defeated = Syria and Iraq are now better off.

    Defeat Hamas = Israelis AND Palestinians will be better off.

    Simple.

    • renster72 on 13/10/2023 - 13:18

      good video on hamas

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bzNFUwNiug

      • gasman70 on 13/10/2023 - 15:05
        +1

        I watched that this morning, and it sums up the Hamas mindset.

        Here's another short, thought-provoking assessment of the insane moral equivalence that's being thrown around….
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6VCF_csmDg

    • TheRealCher on 13/10/2023 - 17:34

      Careful about Syria ..defeat of Daesh was a good thing but it came at the expense of the Syrian people and the reinforcement of the Assad dictatorship, this time by Russia and the USA.
      Syrians continue to suffer and likely will not get rid of that mongrel for many years.

    • Roe Jogan on 13/10/2023 - 18:49
      +2

      LOL isis = came about by the cause of instability in the region by USA's unjust war for attacking a country on false and later verified fabricated lies, and killing millions of iraqi civilians in the process of war crimes.. that's not terrorism cause USA did it. did they ever pay the price for it? did anyone bat an eye?

      ISIS was defeated by the iraqi army and the popular mobilization unit backed by iran. (with Russian air support) usa had no play in this but they love to take credit for everything.

      HAMAS is a paramilitary group consisting of mostly civilian who's family members have been killed by the hands of Israel over the years, fighting for their land and country and against the oppressors against years of illegal occupation. of course when they fight back people like you label them as terrorists. but when Ukraine fights back against an invader they are heroes.

      • gto21 on 13/10/2023 - 21:43
        -1

        Since you are talking about Ukraine.

        Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy condemned the rocket attacks by Hamas against Israel and said the country, just like Kyiv, had "every right" to defend itself.

      • gasman70 on 14/10/2023 - 06:17

        You genuinely believe that Hamas want peace?

      • stockpimp on 16/10/2023 - 10:43

        fight back = killing babies, injuring women, raping them and then killing them? killing entire families? kidnapping babies? executing elderly at point blank?

        Hamas are not fighting for land, they are fighting for genocide.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 13/10/2023 - 13:47
    +1

    Pray for Israel

  • abacus on 13/10/2023 - 16:25
    +7

    A group of people say “We will butcher you and your children.”
    So you put up a fence.
    People cry: “You’ve put these poor things in a cage!”
    Then they break down the fence and butcher us and our children.
    And people cry: “What did you expect?! You put them in a cage!”

    • nghori on 13/10/2023 - 19:01
      +6

      You conveniently missed the ethnic cleansing part where land and homes were taken. And children hare still being butchered by those that stole the land.

      • SolidlyIrresponsible on 16/10/2023 - 23:27
        -2

        Ethical cleansing? They must be the worst ethical cleaners in the world given that the population of Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank is about 5M in total and growing.

  • Roe Jogan on 13/10/2023 - 18:32
    +4

    war crime being committed by Israel right this moment > human rights watch website https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/israel-white-phosphorus-…
    use of white phosphorus munitions in civilian areas is considered a war crime. i don't see western media channels report on this let alone condone it

  • Hi Hi Hi on 13/10/2023 - 21:59
    +1

    Those sanctimonious individuals supporting Hamas terrorists. Extreme Islam and moderate Muslims are different. If you're willing to live in such an environment, there are many countries in the Middle East; go take a look in Iran. Australia is not welcoming to you.

    • Roe Jogan on 13/10/2023 - 22:02
      +7

      terrorism
      /ˈtɛrərɪz(ə)m/

      "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

      so that would make the government of Israel and their illegal land stealing by definition, a terrorist organisation. but they are not arab or from a certain religion group so it does not apply to them, double standards..

      • Hi Hi Hi on 14/10/2023 - 07:32
        -1

        Was your history taught by a physical education teacher? During the British mandate, the Palestinian territories themselves were not sovereign. After the establishment of the United Nations, this land was allocated to both Israel and Palestine. At that time, Israel only possessed a quarter of the region. However, on the day of Israel's founding, it was attacked by surrounding countries. In four out of five Middle East wars, Palestinians initiated hostilities, engaging in terrorist acts, hiding in schools and hospitals, using children as shields – a group of cowards. After accepting so many Syrian refugees in Europe, now your children no longer have security. Thieves and robbers are rampant.

        • Roe Jogan on 14/10/2023 - 08:29
          +6

          True, during the British mandate, the Palestinian territories were not sovereign; they were under occupation by British colonialism. does that give the British right to give away land that isnt really theirs to begin with? if i came and took over your house and have it away does that make it right?

          After the United Nations approved the 1947 UN Partition Plan, the land was indeed allocated to both Israel and Palestine. land that was Palestinian to begin with.. However, the plan's implementation was complex and one sided favouring Israel, the Arabs were the majority and they got the least amount of land, and that led to a war.

          The claim that Israel initially possessed only a quarter of the region is not entirely accurate. The land allocation was intended to create separate Jewish and Arab states, but the exact proportions and borders were subject to disputes.

          The claim that Palestinians initiated hostilities in four out of five Middle East wars is a contentious assertion. The conflict has deep historical and political complexities, and it's not accurate to solely attribute hostilities to one party. you are obviously a Zionist sympathiser.

          Accusations of terrorist acts, hiding in schools and hospitals, and using children as shields are contentious and subjective allegations. Such claims are a matter of debate, and they should be evaluated in the context of the broader conflict.

          The connection between accepting Syrian refugees in Europe and domestic security is a generalization and not backed by direct causation. The presence of refugees does not necessarily lead to an increase in crime rates or insecurity. thats like saying all American white kids are school shooters, so all other non-white kids in schools no longer have security. see how stupid that sounds?

          • johnfuller on 14/10/2023 - 10:58
            +5

            @Roe Jogan: this 100% .. no one has the right to take land and kick the people out

            i dont see israel ever handing the land back, and the way i see it, once they take over the rest of the westbank and gaza, they will continue to take more land in syria, egypt, lebanon and will lead to all out war.

            • Roe Jogan on 14/10/2023 - 11:36
              +2

              @johnfuller: yes the "greater Israel" plan is well and truly in action, an all out war is inevitable, Zionist expansion all paid for by uncle Sam and Nato allies

          • Hi Hi Hi on 14/10/2023 - 14:17
            -1

            @Roe Jogan: You are muddling right and wrong. Under the leadership of the left-leaning Merkel, Europe, especially Germany, has accepted over a million refugees. France and Italy have also taken in a significant number. These people have substantial differences in lifestyle and democratic awareness compared to the locals. You can Google the crime rate spike data in Europe before and after refugee intake. Sympathy and support for refugees are commendable, but it's advisable not to let them into your community. After defeating ISIS, they should return to their previous territories rather than coexist with you; they don't belong to this land.

            The establishment of Israel was based on the 1947 UN resolution, not a unilateral declaration by Britain. At that time, Palestine could have declared independence, but they chose not to. Israelis did not reject living with Palestinians. The initial opposition came from other Middle Eastern countries, including Egypt, Jordan, and Iran, who manipulated extremist Islamic factions among Palestinians for terror attacks. Search online about Israeli leaders who previously returned the occupied Gaza Strip to Palestinians as a "land for peace" initiative, resulting in more kidnappings and terror attacks. Palestinians are not all extremist Islamists, but unfortunately, they chose Hamas as their governing body. The future tragedy is the punishment Palestinians who silently endure Hamas' terror rule and external attacks will face.

            Look at the countries suggesting ceasefire after the recent terror attacks and those favoring Hamas: Russia, Iran, North Korea, China. International politics isn't that complicated; see who supports Hamas, mostly authoritarian states. Israel is a democratic government, albeit imperfect, but more civilized than extremist groups like Hamas. If Israel wanted, Palestine would have been obliterated. But they didn't. Peace for Palestinians comes when they lay down weapons; for Israelis, laying down weapons means genocide.

            • Roe Jogan on 14/10/2023 - 19:15
              +4

              @Hi Hi Hi: Okay, so if you have a negative stance on refugees, it baffles me that you support Israel and illegal settlement of Israel in the West Bank, which leads to more refugees forced out of their land and going to Europe, as you say. And who are you to say that refugees don't belong in the west? If they can integrate into society, study, work, and pay taxes, they have a right to be there, just like you. Now, I don't know which country you keep defending we are not in Europe; this is Australia so my concern is not Europe, if your concern is Europe go voice your opinion there. This is Australia, it's a 220-year-old multicultural country built by immigrants from all corners of the globe. the afghan cameleers built the back bone of this nation. If someone doesn't like the mix of people here, they can go back to their country of origin.

              The UN-drawn borders didn't remain static. Israel expanded beyond those lines taking the entire coastline to the sea, which added further complexity to the situation. In 1967, Israel's settlement in the West Bank introduced more contentious issues, particularly regarding the presence of illegal settlers. The evolving borders and settlements are an integral part of the broader Israeli-Palestinian narrative.

              Israel's status as a democratic state has been questioned due to several contentious issues. First, the treatment of Arab citizens, who face discrimination and inequality, raises concerns about equal citizenship. Second, the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and Israeli settlement policies in the occupied territories have been criticized for undermining self-determination and international law. Additionally, restrictions on Palestinian movement and the blockade of Gaza affect democratic rights and freedoms. The "Nation-State Law" has faced criticism for potentially compromising equality for all citizens. they dont have a reason to lay down weapons and surrender to illegal occupation, that is a cowardly act. Suggesting that Israel could have obliterated Palestine is empty talk, without the billions of dollars in weaponry from usa Israel would not last one week. so my good sir you need to educate yourself a bit more about these matters and not be so bias.

              • Hi Hi Hi on 14/10/2023 - 21:45

                @Roe Jogan: You ask who I am? I am an Australian citizen, a conservative. Integration, learning, and paying taxes do not automatically grant the right to live in a democratic country. The crucial element is civic culture – the maintenance of democratic values by the citizens. People from authoritarian countries like Iran also pay taxes and integrate into society, but not all of them are suited for living in a democratic nation. Those who come to Australia and other Western countries through effort and legal immigration pathways must first embrace democratic values. Please refrain from using the politically correct stick of multiculturalism; refugees are not all alike, and a large influx can cause serious harm to our society. If you are so fond of refugees, you can choose to live with them or invite them to reside in your backyard. It's your choice, but please do not morally coerce others. This is the fundamental value of a democratic society.

                • Roe Jogan on 14/10/2023 - 21:52
                  +2

                  @Hi Hi Hi: good for you, First and foremost, democratic societies like Australia value civic culture, but they also treasure the mosaic of cultures and backgrounds that enrich their tapestry. Australia is a multicultural country in all meaning of the word whether you like it or not, Multiculturalism isn't about imposing conformity; it's about celebrating the diverse voices that contribute to a nation's vibrancy. It's a way to build bridges and foster unity among different communities.

                  It's crucial to understand that refugees often flee their homelands due to unimaginable hardships and conflict mostly caused by USA (and its allies) interference in said country, Afghanistan, iraq, libya, Syria are a few examples. While they're not identical, they share a common aspiration for safety and a chance at a better life. Australia's history reflects its commitment to offering refuge to those in dire need, reflecting its democratic principles.

                  Rather than a one-size-fits-all approach, it's about finding a harmonious balance between upholding democratic values and extending a humanitarian hand. The act of welcoming refugees isn't about coercion but a reflection of empathy, compassion, and an unwavering dedication to universal human rights, and, particularly when our nation has played a role in causing instability in the refugees' home countries

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