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Panasonic Lumix DMC-G85 with 12-60mm F3.5-5.6 Lens $669 Delivered @ Amazon AU

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Panasonic LUMIX G85 16.0MP 4K G Series Micro Four Thirds Mirrorless Digital Camera Kit with a Weatherproof Body, Dual I.S. 2, Wi-Fi and 12-60mm F3.5-5.6 Lens (DMC-G85MGN-K)

Excellent camera and great price. $669

also with the Panasonic LUMIX G 25mm F/1.7 Lens, Black (H-H025E-K) for $911.10 https://www.amazon.com.au/Panasonic-DMC-G85-Digital-Camera-1…

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  • price in title please

  • Price on title

    With the 25mm is $911

    Edit: they are price matching Digidirect

  • Where from also

  • Wow good price!

  • That's a decent discount!

  • It's getting on but it's a decent camera if you want to start mucking around with something versatile. It's virtually identical to my Olympus E-M5ii and that thing still does a good job

    • Got e-m5ii and went g9 for decent upgrade

      • +1

        I haven't used mine enough to bother upgrading, but unless it dies any upgrade will probably be to something more recent.

        The G9 is nice, but I love the E-M5 form factor

    • I had both cameras and do not agree. the g85 has much better video. better autofocus. better ergonomics. arguably better menus. It's a more advanced camera. The Olympus has high res shot and looks all vintage but has no other advantage I can think of.

      • -1

        For me I couldn't give two shits about video, autofocus seemed to be similar in reviews from memory (with my 12-40 2.8 it's lightning quick), and Oly IBIS is meant to be superior to the Panasonic solution. The Oly and the right lens is pocketable too, and the deal I got pushed me to the Oly (E-M5ii + 14-150mm lens for under $1k)

        • The Oly and the right lens is pocketable too

          You have big pockets

          • @snvl: The E-M5ii and Panasonic 20mm 1.7 fits in my jacket pockets just fine, a pancake lens would be even easier

  • -7

    Bit pricey for only 16mp. There is a canon one on there atm with 18mp for $490

    • +1

      It's not always about mp count.

    • The 3000D? That's a completely different beast being DSLR, much bigger and heavier, and likely with less features (weathersealing, etc)

      • -1

        My bad, didn’t see mirrorless in the product description for this one

  • Aye nice

  • +1

    Please note, if you are new to cameras, it's going to be much harder to get 'out of focus backgrounds' on a micro four-thirds. A lot of the fun when you first start is those shallow depth of field shots. 25mm will go OK though.

    • Bokeh

    • +2

      That’s not at all accurate in my experience. I get plenty of bokeh on my m43 cameras using my 25mm 1.8 lens and even more with the 45/1.8.

      You might get more of the bokeh effect with larger sensor size but it’s super easy to get the bokeh affect with the right lens/focal length/aperture (my 17mm doesn’t get much but that’s not what I use it for)

      • Not my experience though, full frame and even APS-C are easier to get bokeh. m43 is harder.

      • +1

        When I was just starting out I went with a m43, and being a beginner I felt like all my photos were 'boring' except for the 25 wide open. Later on I got a 42.5 F1.7 which I loved. It's not a strength of m43, but m43 definitely has other strengths, e.g. telephoto and the deeper depth of field is great for macro.

        • https://youtu.be/6LuvQdGXb4M

          This video covers the topic pretty well and specifically the bonus tip at 10:43 is why I think people find it easier to get more bokeh with bigger sensors (they need to get closer to fill the frame).

    • +1

      Never had too much of an issue here, might depend on the glass you're using.

    • +1

      I got a cheap 50mm lens on my G85 and I have trouble taking photos without bokeh.

      • That's equivalent to 100m on full frame, try it on full frame and see how much bokeh you get. I am more referring to 'normal' focal length lenses. E.g. an m43 'kit lens' is probably going to have a wide depth of field.

        • I dunno, I don't use the kit lens that came with the G7 and my G85 didn't come with a kit lens.

    • On the other hand, having everything blur and out-of-focus (including parts of the main subject) doesn't actually make for a good photo.

      Having an interesting background (perhaps slightly blur) is part of good composition.

      And micro four-thirds cameras, which have plenty of reasonably cheap and compact and light lenses available with f1.7, has no difficulty pleasantly blurring the background. As other posters have commented, the Panasonic 42.5 f1.7 (there is also a PanaLeica f1.2 available) and Olympus 45 mm f1.8 (also Olympus f1.2 available) are cheap and compact lenses, well suited to human (or flower) portraiture.

      • Yeah I'm talking about for beginners, and I'm generalising, but I feel most beginners like a shallow depth of field as it gives them cool looking shots with minimal skill required.

  • +1

    How does this camera compare to Sony A6400?

  • no 4k 60p, no deal.

    • -1

      not sure why this comment was negged, but actually a valid point in 2023.

      • Possibly because there is no relationship between features and whether it's a deal or not. A deal implies that it's discounted from it's regular price or that it provides some other form of compensation than if you were to purchase the product at another time. Whether a deal represents value is another matter.

  • I’ve been looking at getting a half decent camera/video camera to use for my upcoming honeymoon, to get away from just pulling out the iPhone and everything sitting on that.

    Is this a good choice for someone who wants to take good photos/video but isn’t interested in getting right into photography as a hobby? (Apparently) half price - thinking I’ll just pull the trigger unless it’s not as good a deal as it seems?

    Thanks

    Edit: also - would I be wanting that 25mm lens or will the lens it comes with suffice for general holiday snaps/video?

    • +2

      What iPhone? If you’re talking 14 pro I’d say nah unless you want good optical zoom (which iPhone does not have option for)… especially as it sounds like you don’t already have a photography background to get head around the concepts of getting good results out of cam as auto mode sometimes is pretty hit n miss

      • I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

        Assumed a camera this price (full price) would likely be better. Sounds like perhaps not really?

        Yeah no photography background. Obviously would educate myself to a degree - just pointing out that I don’t have plans to get right into photography so some of the features I’m sure would be wasted on me.

        • +1

          Why not wait for 15 Pro Max next month, it rumoured to have 6x periscope lens.

    • Keen to know for the exact same reason. Honeymoon in 4 weeks

    • +7

      Cameras are only good if you have them with you, if you're not overly interested in photography you may not want to haul a camera system around with you, so may be better sticking to an iPhone if it's a decent one. If you're going with a proper camera this is a solid option for the money,

      • A massive second for this comment - pick what you will use. A mirrorless is a great idea until you realise you have to carry it everywhere, remove lens caps, etc. Phone just goes bang - the peak result is not as good as a "real" camera, but often the alternative is "not taking a photo" because the real camera is too much hassle.

      • Phone cameras can definitely be more convenient to have available for use, and often suffice for typical 'holiday-snap' photos and videos.

        Much as the good-old compact film cameras (with a fixed lens set at about 28-35mm focal length equivalent) was plenty for most happy snaps.

        A time-pressured holiday, with a new and somewhat unfamiliar camera, might not be the best time to learn how to use a new camera. YMMV

        Having said that, it was the 'holiday and travel' use which made me switch from (then) APS-C camera to the much lighter micro-four-third camera system, which allowed me to carry a two camera bodies, a compact zoom and several small 'primes' all for the about the same weight as an APS-C camera with a decent zoom.

        But to use a prime lens on a camera requires a fairly 'fixed' idea about what kind of photos you might want to take on each outing, unless everyone around you is tolerant about you futzing around changing lenses.

    • For video I prefer my iPhone but for photos I definitely prefer how the photos from a real camera look. The zoom lens that it comes with will be nice and flexible but it’s slow aperture will make it less optimal for low light. I have a 25mm f1.7 Panasonic lens that makes for great people shots and works much better in low light.

      I’m not sure I would pickup a camera just for one trip though. iPhone photos are generally good enough, you will notice the difference in photos from a real camera for sure but you could also be sitting on a big purchase that you don’t really use after the once.

    • the combo with the 12-60mm and 25mm is $911

    • +1

      I’ve been looking at getting a half decent camera/video camera to use for my upcoming honeymoon

      I would recommend this Canon R10 APSC for $1039, a bargain being less than 2/3 of its RRP. It has bigger sensor and includes a general purpose lens, newer techs being a latest model and Canon is known for its excellent AF (eye tracking, subject tracking etc). The UI is user friendly with brief explanation for various functions on the screen.
      Review: The Canon EOS R10 is now the best camera for beginners.
      I would have posted but quantity is only 4.

  • +1

    Would this have better picture quality in auto mode than a iPhone 14?

    • +1

      In the hands of the average person, no. But you can't trigger external strobes with an iPhone, not yet anyway…

  • +1

    I bought this for a family member a while back ..higher price :-(….and they are producing some amazing shots , that's all I can say! They use it hiking around NZ in the weather etc and are very happy with it.I played with it for a few weeks and got some great photos. lots of mode options.

  • +2

    Personally, i highly recommend this to those who are interested in photography and video editing. Micro four third is relatively smaller and lighter than crop and full frame bodies.

    G85 Ppanasonic
    - Weather proof
    - Good image quality
    - In body image stabilization

    The lens comes with that is also good. Great for travelling.

    Later on, you can buy prime lens, depending on your needs.

    Reasonable price but good lens
    - panasonic 25mm 1.7
    - olympus 45mm 1.8

    A bit expensive but I recommend
    - panasonic 25mm 1.4
    - Olympus 12-40mm 2.8 or
    - Panasonic 12-32mm 2.8

    I used Nikon 20 years ago but switched it to MFT 7 years ago. No regret at all (Nikon is still good though).

    The price with that lens is very good.

  • +1

    I got this, and the G7. They are fine cameras, but 16MBP is laughably low. If you need to do significant cropping then you have hardly any resolution left for printing, so you can forget about large format prints. It's also what, seven years old now? Hard to recommend at this price.

    • Hard to accept the price… However, it is somewhat understandable because prices of lenses have doubled (even for el cheapo kit lenses) after Covid.

    • +1

      how many people prints these days? and you can print large even after cropping, what size do you think it will be a problem?

      • If you cropped the 16MP phot down to 8MP, then you could barely print US Letter size at 300dpi.

  • I have this and it is a good camera. I took to Africa this year.

    But the auto focus is a let down, therefore if you are photographying sports or wildlife it may be a bit of hit and miss.

  • -8

    That's expensive considering this is a 7+ years old camera!!!

    • +1

      Not really. It is cheaper than the second hand prices for this camera. And it is new with warranty plus you get a cheap but reasonable kit lens. This is definitely a bargain.

  • -5

    That's nearly 8 years old. A a new iPhone probably not far away in quality

    • You can’t mean image quality. Strange comparison.

    • I mean the difference between iPhone sensor and an actual full frame sensor on a DSLR is night and day

  • +1

    nice travel kit at this price. Panasonic m43 has amazing af speed and acuracy.
    portrait lover should consider full frame with 50mm primes.

  • Anybody in Melbourne interested in this camera? I bought one but am not really gonna use it I found out. Selling for the same price or sending it back to Amazon next week. DM me if interested. Thanks. 👍

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