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AGL Night Saver EV Plan for Electric Vehicle Owners: 8¢ Per kWh 12am-6am Daily @ AGL (Smart Meter Required)

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AGL Night Saver EV Plan for Electric Vehicle Owners: 8¢ Per kWh 12am-6am Daily @ AGL (Smart Meter Required)
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Heybargain on 11/08/2023 - 17:20 agl.com.au (2022 clicks)
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AGL have joined in the party and are offering 8¢ Per Kwh 12am-6am Daily for ev owners.

Features:
* Get a one-off $75 credit (GST incl.) per fuel (electricity and gas) on your first bill when you switch your home energy to us from another supplier or move your home energy with AGL online. If eligible for the new customer credit, this reduces the above annual estimates by $75.
* Save 5c/kWh at all bp pulse rapid EV charging stations in Australia with our special offer for AGL customers. That means great savings on your EV charging whether you’re at home or on the road.
* Our electricity plans feature a solar feed-in tariff for eligible customers. If you generate more power from your solar panels than you consume on this plan, you’ll get a 7c/kWh feed-in tariff. Residential solar feed-in tariffs are not subject to GST.
* This is an ongoing market contract with a 12-month energy plan period. When your energy plan ends, we may contact you to let you know about new rates and benefits that will apply. If we don't contact you, the plan will continue for a further 12 months.

Might be helpful for those who can't sign up with ovo, or aren't keen on their bill smoothing payment arrangement.

As always, do your own research regarding rates as they may differ based on location and supplier.

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  • jv on 11/08/2023 - 17:23

    What is the rate during the day?

    • Heybargain on 11/08/2023 - 17:25

      Will differ based on location and supplier. For me, this was slightly more expensive compared to ovo energy.

        • Ninja9 on 11/08/2023 - 18:21

          Cheaper today but may not cheaper tomorrow lol

          • jv on 11/08/2023 - 19:30
            -1

            @Ninja9: AGL rates are much higher for me in my area. Around 20% more expensive.

  • enigma48 on 11/08/2023 - 17:27
    +1

    Looks like a decent offer - there’s a note equating to “if it looks like you’re abusing this, we can cancel this plan” but nothing onerous like needing to have a dedicated EV charger

    To be eligible for this Energy Plan you must either:

    own an electric vehicle registered in your name (or the name of a member of your household ) and to the same address as your AGL electricity account;

    hold an AGL electric vehicle subscription in your name (or the name of a member of your household); or

    have an electric vehicle at the Supply Address that is registered in the name of a business to which you or a member of your household have an association.

    In order to verify your eligibility for this Energy Plan, you must provide your vehicle registration number, vehicle make and model, and such other information reasonably required by us, upon our request. At any time during the Energy Plan Period, if you are unable to demonstrate to AGL’s satisfaction that you continue to meet the eligibility criteria for this Energy Plan, AGL may give you notice that your Energy Plan will end and your electricity supply will continue under a Standard Retail Contract.

    To be eligible for this plan, there must also be a digital meter installed at the supply address. A digital meter (also known as a smart meter, interval meter or comms meter) is required so we can accurately measure how much electricity you use during the overnight off-peak EV charging period.

  • Dmz111 on 11/08/2023 - 17:28
    +7

    So own an EV and get your power almost exclusively from fossil fuels?

    • Kapitoshka on 11/08/2023 - 17:38
      +1

      Nope, it is called business. They can buy power cheap during the night and looking to make more profit. There is no more power hungry devices than EVs to make money on. Maybe backyard pools, but they won't almost guarantee to consume 7kw/h for 6 hours.

      • Tollery on 11/08/2023 - 18:17
        +4

        You missed the point of the question, it's about the fuel that creates the power.

      • jv on 11/08/2023 - 19:32
        +1

        They can buy power cheap during the night and looking to make more profit

        From coal.

        • dtpearson on 12/08/2023 - 06:34

          Or wind, biomass, hydro and hopefully soon a lot more pumped hydro.

          While a lot comes from solar NSW now has approximately 13,500 megawatts of renewable energy generation capacity in total, which is around 53% of total generation capacity.

          • MrFrugalSpend on 12/08/2023 - 07:56
            +4

            @dtpearson: 53% of generating capacity… which is some great SPIN!
            - Capacity, not production - Majority of that capacity being solar that only works a portion of the 24 hour period.
            - NSW also sometimes imports power from Qld so the AEMO data for the eastern seaboard is the best to look at which Fossil fuels contributed 71% of total electricity generation in 2021, including coal (51%), gas (18%) and oil (2%) - https://www.energy.gov.au/data/electricity-generation

            The pumped hydro upgrades will be good sure, but given this is a deal about charging your EV at night, there is no way 53% is coming from renewables when the sun isn't shining…The majority of electricity generated is still from coal

            A lot of progress has been made, and still going to be better than ICE (depending on how much of the picture you assess, considering the mining and embodied energy in the vehicle and batteries production etc to make something new in our disposable society - scrapping your old classic vehicle which had been made with significant resources/energy decades ago - see https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/22/the-tough-calculus-of-emis…? and https://www.drive.com.au/news/electric-vehicles-worse-for-en…), but unless you have your solar array connected to batteries or only charge in the day…don't pretend your EV is majority charged using renewables overnight

          • Clarky77 on 12/08/2023 - 13:04
            +1

            @dtpearson: Yes biomass, the most environmentally friendly of all the friendlies lol

            • billsa on 13/08/2023 - 13:21

              @Clarky77: yep, somehow it's friendly because it's renewable,
              and how you can travel in a private jet to save the planet as long as you purchase your carbon credits

        • Inertia-g on 15/08/2023 - 18:53

          The coal power stations have to run anyway, so there is excess power on the grid - might as well use it productively. And for the record, an EV charged purely from a coal power station is still a more efficient use of energy than an ICE vehicle.

          • megadeth on 15/08/2023 - 22:22

            @Inertia-g: I personally think these are just honeymoon rates which will evaporate as more people adopt evs.

            • Inertia-g on 16/08/2023 - 09:18

              @megadeth: absolutely - a bunch of stuff will need to change, and we are seeing the start of it.

              As home solar continues to grow, and ev adoption rates increase, I would be surprised if we see significant shifts in peak/off peak times - possibly even flipping. And as more home batteries come online, I would expect power companies to become a bit more creative and incentivise giving them control of grid/battery usage

    • tunzafun001 on 11/08/2023 - 18:33

      Classic humanism …

      Only hope is wind energy at night.

    • nt11 on 11/08/2023 - 18:50

      100% renewable is an option. Wind or hydro will run at night.
      I'm not paying extra to save the planet but zero tailpipe emission is good enough for me.

      • eddyah on 11/08/2023 - 18:57

        Solar is fine for most people on average during the day throughout the year. This scales out to many houses. Problem is it doesn't scale at night and we need a shit ton more 'additional' sources.

        inb4 some dumbass says gas is the perfect fit and a clean source

        • tunzafun001 on 11/08/2023 - 20:01

          SA has a green hydrogen plant, alledgedly operational by the end of 2025.

          Plan is to use excess solar during the day for Hydrogen generation.

      • tunzafun001 on 11/08/2023 - 20:05
        -2

        No Hydro plants in WA, NT, QLD,SA

        • ezzaf on 11/08/2023 - 20:33
          +1

          Queensland? Heard of Wivenhoe?

          • tunzafun001 on 11/08/2023 - 23:37

            @ezzaf: Yeah, didnt seem right (trusted a search too much). I stand corrected.

            I REALLY hope im wrong about WA as well. 9m tides…water rips through twice a day.

            • dtpearson on 12/08/2023 - 06:43

              @tunzafun001: This will all change rapidly (it is now). Yes large scale overnight renewables like hydro take a lot of money to set up initially, but then they are cheaper than other sources in the long run.

              I hate when ICE drivers all tell me "where do you think your electricity comes from - coal!" That may have been true in the past, but it is changing really quickly. We just need to get more (and cheaper) EV options. For petes sake, will somebody get a damn 600km range EV dual cab ute for sale here for $59,999 to stop everyone I bloody know from looking at trading in their lifted Ford Ranger on an even bigger Dodge RAM, like climate change isn't really a thing in their world.

              • tunzafun001 on 12/08/2023 - 10:33

                @dtpearson: Saw a sticker on a RAM windscreen. Avg fuel consumption of 15L per 100km… In 2023!! Yet they are selling heaps of them.

      • MrFrugalSpend on 12/08/2023 - 08:13
        +1

        Do the world a favour, restore a classic vehicle that would otherwise be scrapped - Way more environmentally friendly.
        Or use something light and energy efficient like an electric scooter / bike - instead of the massively heavy SUV EVs that are coming out.
        Not enough focus on energy efficiency or embodied energy in this debate

        See
        https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/22/the-tough-calculus-of-emis…?
        https://medium.com/a-balanced-transition/five-reasons-why-el…
        https://www.drive.com.au/news/electric-vehicles-worse-for-en…

        • donm on 12/08/2023 - 14:11

          A classic car driven the same kilometers as an EV would not be more environmentally friendly. Classic cars are not known for their fuel economy or low emissions.
          I totally agree that fewer people should be buying heavy vehicles.

          • MrFrugalSpend on 12/08/2023 - 18:52

            @donm: Emissions and Fuel economy … sure

            However I think you need to gain an appreciation for the extensive amount of energy and resources dug out of the ground that goes into the new car industry and everything that supports it… and therefore the inherent savings that can come from re-using something destined for the scrap heap.

            In that overall picture, if you are talking about a taxi - possibly. As for me, I don't drive very extensively so as for me as I live close to work and shops, and old car would be way way more efficient for me for a long time. Mine is over 20 years old.
            A true environmentalist would run an old Kombi off bio-diesel. Someone chasing efficiency and local production of fuel would use something old with LPG conversion.

            It makes sense to replace cars with EVs, what doesn't make sense is retiring 20y/o cars before their functional life expires
            Some of these wealthy people with their ~$100K EVs live their lives in a very disposable way

        • xavster on 16/03/2024 - 22:08

          Please don't….

          EV isn't just about the fuel, it's about removing the carbon monoxides, and other poison going into your and your kids lungs.

          Re-gen removes ALOT of the braking and thus brake dust that gets generated and then washed into the sewers and out to sea, gets into sea life and then back into our food chain.

          Reduce noise pollution, it will make living near roads more comfortable and healthier, allow us to build nearer to transport and improve density.

          • MrFrugalSpend on 20/03/2024 - 02:08

            @xavster: Sure, we can do those things over time by a phase out. We should not retire vehicles before we have to.

            What I can't stand, is when people have to jump on the religion that becomes one particular idea and assume everyone else is an extreme right-wing nut for having other ideas other than we must go 100% solar, 100% batteries and 100% EVs NOW NOW NOW climate EMERGENCY!!!! ARGH.
            Do we need to clean up our act - YES; does science support this - YES;

            ….But why can't it be done phased out in functional lifespans of products we use instead of early retiring them and wasting all the mining, energy, resources, CO2 etc that went into making them instead of crushing them for running less efficiently for a few more years. That rush to do it now is ignoring it is currently being most done using fossil fueled factories, fossil fueled ships, trucks that transport our products like cars. That will improve over time, and should.

            Phasing out is like what is being done with the phase out first of CFCs then of HFCs in refrigeration - of course it can and should be done in managable timeframes that don't impact people too hard or too fast. It doesn't throw out all the equipment that runs off them, bankrupt all the people that invested in them etc. You can have an A/C that can run for another 20 years. It should not be thrown out and replaced by another one mined from the ground and assembled and transported using fossil fuels because it is more efficient or uses slightly better gas. The ozone layer hole is showing signs of recovery despite this being a multi decade approach.

            There are pros and cons of everything - and all of those should be considered so they can be properly managed. Phasing out rollouts allows the world to adjust. And everything needs to be moderated, and impacts mitigated as much as possible.

            Sure, regen mitigates some brake dust - Pro…. Con: Brake pads are fairly small in the scheme of things - conversely apparently EVs increase Tyre Pollution for similar sized vehicles due to being heavy - see.
            https://grist.org/transportation/electric-vehicles-are-a-cli…
            https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/elect…

            Pro: Electric cars use less carbon emissions (particularly if charged from sustainable sourced electricity*)
            Con: The waste battery pollution
            https://www.drive.com.au/news/electric-car-battery-recycling…

            "A landmark university study has warned the rapid rollout of electric cars in Australia could become a threat to the environment from 2030 unless urgent action is taken to deal with the mega-tonnes of expired batteries. In another dent to the environmental credentials of electric cars – when the mining of raw materials, vehicle production, and end-of-life are calculated – the peak body overseeing recycling said Australia is not prepared for the sharp increase in battery-powered cars. And, the authority warned, there is a high risk of serious environmental harm if certain battery materials end up in landfill."

            Expired electric-car batteries are set to be a major problem from 2030. New research by the University of Technology Sydney has revealed 30,000 tonnes of used electric vehicle batteries will enter the waste stream in Australia by 2030; Just seven years from now. Their work commissioned by Battery Stewardship Council found that:

            There are an estimated 100,000 electric caars already on Australian roads
            By 2030 there will be 600,000 tonnes of batteries in electric cars sold in Australia
            In 2040 this number will grow to more than 2.5 million tonnes of batteries in electric cars sold in Australia
            For 2050 this number will grow to more than 4.1 million tonnes of batteries in electric cars sold in Australia
            By 2030 the number of expired electric-car batteries will grow to almost 30,000 tonnes per annum and by 2040 to more than 360,000 tonnes per annum
            In 2050 the volume of expired electric-car batteries entering the waste stream will have reached 1.6 million tonnes

            Con - Toxic gases of fossil fuel cars - Pro: Many of those most toxic gases have been removed with things like catalytic converters, diesel particulate filters, and removal of lead from gasoline.

            Pro- I have a 20 year old car that no emissions have gone into the making of in the last 20 years… Its not worth much anymore I could retire it to the scrap heap and buy a Tesla and all the energy that went into that… or I could keep fixing and using it, which is less emissions now. When I eventually need to replace it, sure, I hope its with a Tesla Model S Plaid, those things are awesome.

            I maintain that the worst thing you can do is throw such as resource intensive thing away, discount all counter arguments that should be debated and considered as we try to solve the world's problems.

    • Zaphod42 on 12/08/2023 - 12:49
      +2

      Why is everyone obsessed with assuming people buy an EV for environmental reasons? They are cheap to run, especially with offers like this.

  • easternculture on 11/08/2023 - 17:37
    +1

    Anyway to charge a solar battery from 12am to 6am and use it during the day

    • Logical on 11/08/2023 - 18:41

      If you have solar than not worth it…buy at 8 cents and then during day you generate and sell back to them for 7 cents.

      But without solar and just battery then it makes sense. My 13.3 kWhr battery can be set to charge from the grid at midnight

      • easternculture on 11/08/2023 - 18:44

        Yeh no solar. Have a mate who can buy me a battery at wholesale price (he has his own solar company).

        Is ROI worth it though

        • freefall101 on 11/08/2023 - 19:25

          Depends on wholesale price of a battery+install and your power prices, but unlikely. Back of a napkin, $10k system to pay back in 10 years, need to save $3 a day time shifting. If peak price is say 38c, save 30c per kWh, need to have 10kwh stored then used during peak every single day to pay off in 10 years.

          There’s no promise AGL will keep this plan either.

          • easternculture on 11/08/2023 - 20:00

            @freefall101: I am planning to install solar when i rennovate my roof.

            The hard wood is starting to become fragile and will eventually need replaying in a few years.

            So the battery would eventually get connected to the solar

            • tunzafun001 on 11/08/2023 - 20:11

              @easternculture: Probably wont be able to connect new panels to an old inveter (red tape BS called the CEC).
              Generally, get everything connected within 2 years to be 'safe'.

          • TheCandyMan2020 on 11/08/2023 - 20:40

            @freefall101: With my Powerwall I already save $6 a day 5 days per week and say $2 2 days per week.

            so even rounding down to $30 per week, and only 50 weeks a year, I figure I'm saving my $13k installed cost in less than 9 years (not including interest that could have been earnt on the $13k)

            Plus if electricity rates keep rising, the payback period will be much less….

            • freefall101 on 11/08/2023 - 20:47

              @TheCandyMan2020: I assume you have solar? I was talking about purely grid connected without solar and utilising lower price energy. It's of course totally different with solar involved.

              Otherwise you can, at best, charge in off peak and discharge at peak.

              • TheCandyMan2020 on 11/08/2023 - 22:12

                @freefall101: My offpeak is 1/3 the cost of my peak rate. So even doing that I would save $4 a day on weekdays.

                A lot depends on how expensive your electricity rates are.

                Two things they didnt tell me before switching to solar:

                1) I had to switch to a smart meter
                2) I had to switch to a time of use plan

                If you are on a cheap flat rate plan I wouldnt do solar or a battery

                • skysurfer on 12/08/2023 - 00:32

                  @TheCandyMan2020: I work in solar. You dont have to switch to time of use to get solar. They are not related but no doubt your power company wants you to think that, they are deceptive.

                  • TheCandyMan2020 on 12/08/2023 - 10:33

                    @skysurfer: Yeah well without asking when the smart meter went on they changed my tariff from a cheap flat rate to TOU

                    When I complained they said that was compulsory when you change to a smart meter.

                    From that point on, if I try to goto an electricity supplier they only connect me to TOU plans (Ausgrid NSW).

                    The TOU plans have offpeak rates about equal to my old flat rate, and peak rates triple that, so I am getting shafted hard since the smart meter was installed.

                    • skysurfer on 13/08/2023 - 18:42

                      @TheCandyMan2020: Yes, the power companies and the government lied to everybody when they pushed the smart meters as good for the customer because of the ability to LOWER our power cost. So many people believed that but of course the power companies single goal is to make as much $ as possible so smart meters were always destined for that use.

            • Meovel on 14/03/2024 - 04:36

              @TheCandyMan2020: Peak rate is only applicable half time of a year (summer/winter ausgrid) so savings is much less than that

  • silenthillrocks on 11/08/2023 - 17:43

    Is this a good deal for hot water heating?

    • Heybargain on 11/08/2023 - 17:55
      +2

      Yeah. Just schedule your hot water to heat during that time.

      • Borg on 11/08/2023 - 18:06

        How? Tanks don’t have timers. I have to flick the Fuse switch on/off.

        • Logical on 11/08/2023 - 18:42
          +1

          Install a timer. Around two hundred bucks

        • Nom on 14/03/2024 - 10:37

          Modern heat-pump hotwater systems do have timers. I set mine to switch on at 11am daily, and it reheates the tank within an hour or two at no cost (powered by solar and/or free OVO power during the mid-day window).

    • Borg on 11/08/2023 - 18:05

      Of course. By default I turn mine on the way to bed (after midnight) and then off in the morning. Off-Peak is from 10pm to 7am. Having said that, mine only takes around 5kW to 6kW to heat and costs me 0.16c per kWh. If I was able to partake at this rate would save 0.48c per day :-)

      • tunzafun001 on 11/08/2023 - 20:14

        Only 5 -6kwh…that is a lot! Our 300L element job uses 3kwh, 260L heatpump around 1kwh.

        • Borg on 12/08/2023 - 11:26

          Good point and didn't realise until I Googled avg power used by tanks. Mine must be a crap inefficient Rheem 125L tank from 2015. It is outside in a cold shaded area which wouldn't help although Sydney doesn't get that cold. From memory I have the thermostat set lowish so no savings to be had by adjusting!

  • soupratt on 11/08/2023 - 18:03

    Just an example for Victoria (United) rates - 1st Energy vs AGL

    Peak : 601kw - $168.16 (28.98c/kwh) — $185.55 (32.538c/kwh)
    OffPeak : 1361kw - $246.34 (18.1c/kwh) — $286.39 (21.043c/kwh)
    EVoffpeak : 314kw - $56.83 (18.1c/kwh) — $25/12 (8c/kwh)
    Supply : 90days - $97.80 (107.80c/day) — $76.88 (85.426c/day)
    Total $569.13 — $583.94

    So the main issue is how much are you charging your EV ? If much more than 314kw a month then the AGL plan is definitely better. I have solar panels and currently get the premium feed in tarrif of 66c with Red Energy but it will drop to 60c with 1st Energy. I also have free EV charging due to BMW arrangement with chargefox for 5 years.

    • Heybargain on 11/08/2023 - 18:15
      +2

      Divert your other appliances to run during this window like dishwasher, washing machine, hot water etc.

    • BargainBogan99 on 11/08/2023 - 18:50
      +1

      Your FIT is 66c!
      How?

      • Clarky77 on 12/08/2023 - 13:13

        Years ago the government had incentives for people to get solar which guaranteed them a premium feed in rate of 60c plus some retailers give you the standard feed in on top of that so in their case it is 6c so getting 66c per kWh but you need to remember back when they were available the price of solar panels was very expensive.

  • dasher86 on 11/08/2023 - 18:35
    +2

    These overnight EV plans are great for hydroponics 😏

  • BargainBogan99 on 11/08/2023 - 18:49

    Seems like a good deal for running the aircon all night

    • Clarky77 on 12/08/2023 - 13:14

      I like your thinking, I wonder if I can get a cheap electric golf cart so I qualify over summer lol

      • Antikythera on 06/10/2023 - 16:54

        surely there are cheapo clapped out hybrid camry ex-taxis by now.

        edit:
        yellow - tick
        578k km - tick
        six grand - bugga

        not quite yet.

  • dwhes on 11/08/2023 - 18:50

    Rates are higher than ovo ev plan for me.

  • Discoaus on 11/08/2023 - 18:51
    +1

    Shame, you can’t even look at the plan if you don’t have a separate meter installed. Anyone in qld able to clarify the rates during the day? Thanks!

    • ezzaf on 11/08/2023 - 20:36

      You can look up the rates for any network area here

      https://www.agl.com.au/terms-conditions/rates-contracts/ener…

      • Discoaus on 11/08/2023 - 23:06

        Even when doing that I can’t find this specific plan listed on this post. It just shows me a basic ev plan, which is terrible. 30c per kWh normal time rates which is appauling. I had to swap from agl to sumo, as they were offering me 10c kWh less than agl plan, and the ev plan was almost identical to their super saver

  • Dealking on 11/08/2023 - 18:56

    FIT is 7c and night time rate is 8c. Would be better if the night time rate is lower than the FIT, otherwise you are better off charging via solar if it suits.

    • keejoonc on 11/08/2023 - 19:07

      Not everyone is home during the day to charge.

      • Dealking on 11/08/2023 - 20:35

        Yes - need some math to check if it’s worth sacrificing the FiT just to charge your EV?
        I am with Powershop and getting 12c FiT. Say if I export 40KW in summer, I will get $4.80. My EV uses about 13kw /100 km. So if the night rate is 36c, it’s about $4.5/100 km.
        Alternately, the FiT with this plan is 7c so 40KW will get $2.8 and to charge the above EV at 8c it will be $1.04.
        Net the solar plan is over by $1.7 on days you charge the EV, but might be $2 under on days you don’t. Will also depend on aircon usage and other heavy appliance usage during day v/s night.
        Each to their own, but need some serious math to make a decision

  • PcisT on 11/08/2023 - 19:14

    Does anyone know if there is a VIP Family and Friends version of this?

  • ScottyDont on 11/08/2023 - 20:01
    +3

    There is no digital meter installed at this address. That's wrong but it means I can't see their rates to see if it's worth chasing

    • WhatsTheBigDeal on 11/08/2023 - 23:13

      Same for me

      • ScottyDont on 12/08/2023 - 00:09

        Looks like they are on the Energy Made Easy site but it doesn't list any of the 12am to 6am pricing on the EV plan

      • d2567 on 26/03/2024 - 08:55

        I put my address as the new house 6 doors down as I assumed it has a smart meter, this is how I managed to find out their prices.
        The peak period with AGL ( NSW) goes from 31 cents up to 58 cents. But their shoulder periods drop down a little bit

    • sosuto on 11/08/2023 - 23:33

      Having this same issue

    • kipps on 12/08/2023 - 14:54

      Same issue here. AGL is really scummy and offering horrendous rates since the July hikes so I doubt I’m missing much.

  • FrancoCozzo on 11/08/2023 - 20:51
    +1

    I just switched to this from OVO EV plan in Melbourne (in Hampton).

    AGL comes out better for me:
    General Usage: OVO=31.944c vs AGL=25.069c
    Daily supply: OVO=98.34c vs AGL=85.426c
    EV off peak: Both 8c

    • WhatsTheBigDeal on 11/08/2023 - 23:15

      Who's your energy provider? Jemena?

      • FrancoCozzo on 12/08/2023 - 08:52

        I'm in Hampton so United

    • enigma48 on 11/08/2023 - 23:59

      FIT is very different though. I’m currently on 10c with Ovo vs AGL 7c. (This doesn’t work for everyone, we export a fair bit and import little)

  • Wsk on 11/08/2023 - 21:48

    OP where did you see the line where if states "This is an ongoing market contract with a 12-month energy plan period. When your energy plan ends, we may contact you to let you know about new rates and benefits that will apply. If we don't contact you, the plan will continue for a further 12 months." ?

    When I click on 'see full condition' on the website it states "The rates and charges under this energy plan are variable and can change with notice to you at any time."

    • Heybargain on 14/08/2023 - 22:15

      This is mentioned under Plan Features, one of the cards show “ Plan duration: 12-month energy plan with no exit fees”.

      If you click on the card you’ll see the info which I added above about the ongoing market contract.

      • Wsk on 16/08/2023 - 17:10

        Thank you have discovered different states get different offer (including fixed/variable plan). I am in VIC so it's variable unfortunately. Would be more than happy to lock in this rate for 12 months otherwise.

  • megadeth on 11/08/2023 - 23:28

    I'm an existing AGL Electricity & Gas customer in Endeavour/Jamena area (with smart meter and solar) and the bargain page tells me I do not have a smart meter and thus ineligible. So looks like there's no way for me to sign up to this plan except to port out and port back in and pay the hefty connection/reconnection/disconnection fees. These dodgy utilities… no wonder how they're printing money off us poor hardworking Aussies!

    • ezzaf on 12/08/2023 - 09:23
      +1

      There's no fees to change supplier. You only pay connection and disconnection fees if you actually ask them to disconnect you.

      In fact, you could switch to one of the many suppliers offering a sign up credit, take the free power, then port back to AGL.

    • delfredo on 12/08/2023 - 15:00

      Same here I have smart meter but AGL site says I don’t.

      • Borg on 12/08/2023 - 21:58

        Perhaps call then to clarify assuming your Smart meter calls home (has a SIM). I have an older basic smart meter without the SIM so requires onsite visit to D/L data every 90 days. This stops me from getting some deals.

    • megadeth on 14/08/2023 - 21:53
      +1

      Called AGL to sign up for this plan without even a single question asked (not even EV proof of ownership!). Dindn't want to change to a different provider as some hidden charges/fees sometimes trigger. Happy so far…

      8c/kWh for from midnight to 6am
      33.59c/kWh for the rest of the day
      96.72c/day supply charge
      7c/kWh solar FiT
      12 month plan with no exit fee

  • KK25 on 13/08/2023 - 06:36

    Since I have home battery, this plan means I can charge it during this super off peak and use it through a day. So good to be true?

    • skysurfer on 13/08/2023 - 18:47

      If you can get on to the plan then you can do what you like with the cheap power until and if they exercise their option to check you meet the eligibility requirements (like having an EV). Have at it.

      • KK25 on 14/08/2023 - 01:49

        Yes, I have an EV anyway. Sounds like a very good deal.

  • [Deactivated] on 17/08/2023 - 18:27
    -1

    Time to get an EV!

    Ooops wait a minute… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0U6Oeeb-74

    Pass.

  • BargainKnight on 04/08/2024 - 16:02

    Do they AGL change the rate anytime during the year? I'm going to switch to the plan. OVO is no longer the best due to reduced FiT.

  • BARGAINDS on 16/08/2024 - 17:30

    Does the 8c/kwh apply to all electricial use. So, I have an EV and solar panels and I charge my car during the day, but my house still needs electricity at night. Or do they somehow know if the electricity I'm using is going to the car and only that comes at the lower tarrif?

    • Nom on 16/08/2024 - 22:35

      Does the 8c/kwh apply to all electricial use.

      Yes.

  • BargainKnight on 17/08/2024 - 18:33

    Only 5c FiT now

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