Silicon Power XPOWER XS70 4TB PCIe Gen 4 M.2 SSD $299.99 Delivered @ Amazon JP via AU

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$59 cheaper for a PS5 compatible NVMe SSD than this deal

Specifications

Capacity
4TB

Dimensions
24.6mm x 80.0mm x 10.8mm

Weight
33g

Interface
PCIe Gen 4x4

Performance Read(max.)
4TB: 7,200MB/s

Performance Write(max.)
4TB: 6,800MB/s

System Requirement
Computer with M.2 slots supporting PCIe interface and an OS with NVMe support

Operating Temperature
0°C - 70°C

MTBF (est)
1,600,000 hours

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  JerraJones on 05/08/2023 - 07:40

  +1

  Any gen 4 drive is ps5 compatible and there's a 4tb gen 4 drive for 208 already.

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    netsurfer on 05/08/2023 - 09:48

    I think OP meant "really" PS5 compatible by Sony's definition, rather than PS5 won't block it (since there is no blacklist of SSDs by Sony, at least not yet).

    There are two camps, one camp insists you should get SSDs which match Sony's definition of compatible SSDs. Other camp doesn't give a damn since it is just gaming so as long as the SSDs get accepted by PS5, they are 'compatible'.

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      JerraJones on 05/08/2023 - 10:46

      People+youtubers have tested gen 4 ssds that are barely faster than gen 3 speeds (3500-4000) that made 0 difference in loading/pop-in.

      In the end it doesn't matter what Sony/others considers as a baseline, all gen 4 ssd's are functionally the same in a ps5 (I'd say the same for pc gaming too) and that's all that matters. Anything else just muddies the waters and clutters people's minds with useless information.

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        netsurfer on 05/08/2023 - 11:21

        +3

        For majority of games, yes. Some people think GT7 is the one that could cause problems (I don't own that game so I cannot test it).

        However, if you actually do a comprehensive suite of tests on PS5, lower grade TLC and QLC SSDs do have write slow down which is visible. Digital Foundry reported that. Basically, you just need to get the SSD into a state where the SLC recovery has either not started or is in write back to TLC state, then the transfer speed can drop and can get ugly for cost effective PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs. I have QLC SSDs and at QLC mode + foldback write, I do have >2 QLC SSDs which perform worse than portable HDDs in writes. They run fine for reads.

        I don't know whether PS5 allows SSD in an USB enclosure to m.2 / NVMe SSD game transfers (or has to go through internal SSD). If it does, then QLC NVMe's write performance could be felt.

        The main issue is actually this: QLC NAND means ~40-50% less NAND cell blocks. So, is it really fair to have the same price expectation? Phison E21 DRAMless controller doesn't scale the same way above 1TB and it is still technically a 4 channels controller (instead of 8 channels). DRAMless SSDs are generally fine for most people but DRAM is not free (so we cannot expect to get DRAM SSD at the same price). Of course you can say most people don't need that extra performance and most people will only need to use that extra performance once or twice (i.e. before selling the console or migrating games to a new SSD).

        I have no issue with people using under spec'd SSD in PS5. The one I put in my PS5 is under spec'd (Sony fixed the zero fill cheating bug in the read test). However, I am not going to state that it will be trouble free as we do not know what the first party developers will do later on.

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  Commodore64 on 05/08/2023 - 07:42

  Does it have DRAM?

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    JerraJones on 05/08/2023 - 07:47

    +1

    Yes.

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  netsurfer on 05/08/2023 - 09:46

  It's known Silicon Power already did a NAND swap to YMTC NAND (to the cheaper previous gen YMTC NAND, not the preferred current / latest gen). For people who purchased this in the past month or so, it would be good if they can report what they received.

  Worst case scenario for this deal, Silicon Power elected to do yet another swap and changed the controller (like the 2TB version).

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    Mucchan on 05/08/2023 - 10:25

    +3

    I purchased at $359 and the swap is on the controller from Phison E18 to InnoGrit IG5326. The NAND is still Micron 176L on mine.

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      netsurfer on 05/08/2023 - 11:33

      Thanks for the info. So, the best case is people are somewhat lucky and still able to get InnoGrit IG5326 + Micron 176L TLC. The new price drop is fishy so InnoGrit IG5326 + YMTC NAND (previous gen 112L) could be the new batch (Silicon Power did that to 2TB version 2 months ago so don't be surprised 4TB now gets the same treatment).

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  dfg555 on 05/08/2023 - 09:48

  -1

  silicon power…. oooohhh…. yeaa…..

  nah.

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  Rifulreinhardt on 05/08/2023 - 13:15

  i have a ps5, only going to play a few selective games, can i survive on stock storage?

  i can delete/reinstall games.

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    hybir on 06/08/2023 - 00:04

    It's more than feasible if you only play a few games at a time, unless you like playing Call of Duty games regularly which are huge in size.

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  Sandaz on 05/08/2023 - 13:41

  Long time NVME SSD Lurker here. Seeking advice on this Vs other options please. Have bought a couple so thanks to the OzB community (e.g. Netsurfer and ChatGPT among others). I'm now looking for a 4TB to mainly use for very regular scheduled backups from a Solidgm P44 and two SATA MX500s. I have a spare 4.0 socket for it (integrated in the chipset on a Gigabyte x570). My question is this XPOWER XS70 vs Team M34 (i know its gen 3 but it seems like a reliable one?), vs Crucial P3 Plus vs Silicon Power UD90 vs whatever else I'm missing???. Im waiting at around the $250 price point, obviously cheaper is better but I can go up to $300 if there's alot of benefit compared to the $250 mark. Reliability is important - I dont want to worry about data loss. Speed of backups is also important as i currently do regular full disk images (~2.5 TB monthly fulls with daily differentials of up to say 300GB via free Macrium. I'll be switching from differentials to either incremental images or targeted folder backups when I get the paid Macrium when it goes on sale). Another wrinkle in all of this is I could use the new 4TB as the main data drive (P44 as OS and programs already) and backup to the SATA MX500s but my brain hurts at that point.

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    Wicko on 05/08/2023 - 14:59

    +1

    If reliability is important avoid QLC drives (UD90, Crucial P3 Plus, CS2241) and look for TLC drives (MP34, XS70). However, apparently its common for silicon power drives to fail on top of that, so I'd avoid the XS70. The MP34 is probably your current best bet, unless you wait longer for higher end drives to trickle down to $250-$300 AUD.

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      furythree on 05/08/2023 - 16:23

      is the p3 plus not reliable?

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        Wicko on 05/08/2023 - 16:24

        It uses QLC so it generally would be 'less reliable'.

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          furythree on 05/08/2023 - 21:40

          @Wicko: is it at least worth the price premium over the SP?

          its about $50 dearer

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            Wicko on 05/08/2023 - 22:34

            @furythree: Definitely not, unless you're getting it locally in which case you may decide that the convenience is worth it

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              furythree on 05/08/2023 - 23:40

              +1

              @Wicko: thanks

              the waiting continues then lol

              i dont want to touch SP
              rather pay a premium on micron if their prices come down

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      Sandaz on 05/08/2023 - 18:10

      Thanks, yep I've been waiting for MP34 to come down a little. It's about $290 right now.