Not bad at all of a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 phone!
Key features:
• Industry-leading Snapdragon® 8 performance (8 Gen 1)
• Instant all-pixel focus and HDR10+ recording
• High-res 50MP ultra-wide and 60MP selfie cameras
This is the single SIM version
Not bad at all of a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 phone!
Key features:
• Industry-leading Snapdragon® 8 performance (8 Gen 1)
• Instant all-pixel focus and HDR10+ recording
• High-res 50MP ultra-wide and 60MP selfie cameras
This is the single SIM version
This has low ingress protection
this will have better SoC compared to the Google Tensor, battery i can't comment on this phone, but ont Pixel 7 is very ordinary (although once i got the app's dialed in i end the day with about 20-30% still left, out of the box it wasn't even getting to the end of the day)… pixel 7 is not for a heavy user that's for sure. Camera and Camera app along with software support is where the Pixel will win out, so if those are important to you (it is to me) id pick a pixel over majority of Androids… also decent midrangish pricing vs Samsungs …
Thank you for your write up. I came on here as I was going to ask what had the better camera, this or the Pixel 7. I'm going on a family holiday and it's time to let the blackberry go as the camera is very very dated.
What does dialed in mean
I was going to return my 7 pixel pro. The battery lasts half a day
Dialed in means uninstalling/disabling apps you don't use that often, setting battery restriction on apps that love to linger in the background, turning off sync features you don't need etc.
Best way is to go to battery usage and changing the high usage app's from optimised to restricted, stopping them from running in the background … just keep in mind if an app needs to run in the background you need to leave it in optimised (like a media player/spotify type) otherwise when the the screen is off or phone is not in use the app closes … i've done this for a majority of my high usage apps .. even whatsapp and no issue's, only one was my audio player which i changed back to optimised :)… i get through the day easily now…
Pixel 7 has a much better camera (DXO marks Pixel 7, Edge 30) , will get updates quicker and for longer (Motorola indicating 2 major OS upgrades and 3 years of security updates for this phone, but Google indicating 3 OS upgrades and 5 Years of security updates for Pixel 7), you also get access to pixel exclusive features, 3 months of Google one access, and a much better warranty/RMA support than what you can expect from JB. Having owned nexus and pixel phones for over a decade (while my wife using flagship Samsung galaxy phones) I think the Pixels have a better overall experience, except for a few issues that you may experience during the first few months after the phone’s release. But since Pixel 7 has been out for a few months I’d think most of the initial bugs are ironed out by now. Google’s RMA is the best I’ve experienced so far, they send out a phone immediately even before you send yours back and usually comes within a couple of business days (have done 2 RMAs in the last 12 years, one for me and another for a family member).
The Motorola may have a slight edge in terms of performance and battery life, but I wonder how much of that translate to a real world benefit. IMHO the Pixel 7 especially at the same price is the better buy.
Definitely Pixel 7 at the current deal price. Bought around $700 from earlier JB deal. Cameral is awesome, battery lasts me whole day, get frequent software updates, little software quirks are great, for example, scam call and text filter, text to speech, magic eraser etc. Benchmarks aside, in real world usage you wouldn't even be able to feel the 0.001 sec faster response of Motorola.
pixel for cameras and software updates(both are pathetic on Motorola)
Motorola for everything else(battery life and screen quality are especially stand out)
Getting one of the better smartphones cameras with 4 years of software support for $500 would be a big ask to beat.
The Motorola seems to me, you'd be looking at replacing it a lot sooner because of poor software support..
Not bad at all of a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 phone!
8, not 8+, so people should be aware that things like gaming aren't going to be kind to the battery or the temps.
The non-plus is still a powerful APU for daily phone tasks, you won't hate it, but if it's long sessions of high demand you're after, it'll be less ideal.
You make it sound like this phone is not good for gaming but the phone is actually a beast, it won't overheat as you think, it might get slightly warmer than 8 Gen 2 or 8+ Gen 1. It's not easy to find another brand new phone with the same chip under $500!! i dont actually know any.
You're mistaken; I would never have thought it would overheat.
Not much overheats anymore, most manufacturers have built in throttling to prevent overheating; that was never my concern.
I can confirm that using one of these to do heavy gaming, or video editing, on a regular 30-35c Aussie summer day, certainly did result in heavy throttling.
@Chandler: But… what?
It's been quite a long time since electronics overheated in normal use.
I have seen phones overheat. Occasionally throttling isn't doing enough to stop the thermal runaway, in which case you'll get the OS notifying you it's too hot, and the CPU will lock at minimum frequency as a last ditch effort to maintain stability.
I was not expecting this phone to do that, as it's been extensively independantly tested, which reveals that throttling is common and often severe, but is enough to stop it overheating.
@MasterScythe: My point there was your first comment explicity stated that gaming isn't going to be kind to temperatures (implying overheating - now when I say overheating I'm not only discussing the situation where the phone turns itself off for protection, but just getting very hot)
I have had several phones both get very hot and overheat (as in shutdown) in what I would consider "normal" usage. Utilisation whilst charging is usually the culprit, i.e. in the car, charging, navigating and playing music. Now some would argue this is "heavy" usage, which I understand that argument, and whilst I agree with it being heavy, it is also what I would consider a "normal" use case. In my situations, sometimes positioning was a large contributor (sun) but some occasions it was in the centre console (no holder + Android Auto). This also happened both with well known manufacturers (Google Pixel 2) and also lesser known manufacturers (Oppo A52).
@Chandler: In my 20+ years of overclocking I've never heard anyone use the word 'unkind' to imply overheating.
Even in the ARM chip scene, like phones, or the rPi.
Typically, being 'unkind to a chip' is scene-talk implying excessive overvolting, or running hot.
It's not a big deal if you want to apply a different definition to the industry; Just be aware it's uncommon, so if you're going to continue to discuss processors, this will come up again.
To give a real world example;
My overclocked 5820k when not under chilled liquid used to run at 107c 24/7; that's unkind to the chip; but still totally functional, and stable.
If it overheats, it'll lose stability (or It'd power off if I hadn't disabled TjMax).
@Chandler: My phone overheats during summer when using it for nav + music in the car (music is not heavy use btw, I used to underclock my PSP to like 50mhz and it would play mp3s without issue). I have a vent clip so it's attached to the vents that are blasting out AC and still can't beat the Australian sun haha.
@Agret: Yeah I've got mine in a vent-mounted holder too. Although one of the times it notified me about getting too hot (just the notification, not shutdown) I actually had the heat on in the car, so kinda unsurprising haha!
The battery wise this phone has 68W charging system and the charger is in the box so not a big deal.
if youre a battery hog, these big quick charges make all the difference. 5 or 10 mins on charge will get you out of a scrape.
glad i got used one for 250
not sure why im downvoted because i got a deal on a used item lol
The dual sim was the same price a few days ago..
the single Sim was $449 in late May..
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/778357
Wow great deal but not to sure if i should get one yet….. i was also eyeing the Xiaomi POCO F5 5G 8GB 256GB Black from Kogan. Not to sure which one is better?
https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/parkaustralia-xiaomi-poco-f5-5g…
Looking quickly at the specs that has an older chipset
Snapdragon® 7+ Gen 2
Not sure if the 7+ is better than 8 non plus though, you'd have to do a little bit of research.
7+ Gen 2 is a lesser binned 8+ Gen 1 and is most definitely more refined than the original 8 Gen 1 that has battery/thermal throttling issues.
Yeah I'm debating the same, i really like the poco F5 on paper and headphone jack! Just the software and warranty support. I'm waiting for the poco to go on sale or another phone to be released. Theres a lot of mid rangers getting released that should help other phones drop their prices, so for now I'm playing the waiting game
@Voucherd: I'm with you, it's a good phone though I'm wanting a better camera and selfie 4K. I will hold onto my fading Poco F2 Pro for a bit longer yet 😆
I have it and it's a sh*tty device. Bunch of issues in day to day use especially after Android 13 upgrade. I guess there is a reason it drops in price this fast.
I've got this phone too and don't have any issues. Runs smoothly for me. Decent battery life. Maybe you got a dud?
I have been using it for ~6 months now and no real issues as such, battery last the whole day with pretty heavy usage, phone is responsive with lots of installed apps.
but somehow I just don't like it, cannot really say exactly why. My old LG V40 still feels better than this.
Just bought the Pixel 7 and will move to that when it arrives, the only thing I will really miss is the chop chop flashlight.
I love the chop chop flashlight. I'm gonna look like an idiot at least once with my Pixel 7 trying to do it
Same here, worst phone I ever use, don't buy.
Worst ever? Why?
Had this phone for over a year, no issues.
Someone please give me a reason to buy this as a replacement for the s21 5g.
Is your current phone damaged? If not, don’t replace it
You will find better value in the coming months
Nothing wrong with Motorola but I thought OzB and many Australians prefer to buy Chinese phones like Oppo and OnePlus?
Apparently they’re of superior quality and cheaper with better specs
See forums
Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo which is Chinese, so these fit the bill.
Yet Motorola Mobility is an American company, which is a subsiduary of Motorola China.
Where that actually lands them is a common (and often humorous) debate among 'patriotic American' stereotypes, who like the brand, but hate China, haha.
128 GB only and no SD card isn't much use.
I couldn't agree more.
You'll get downvoted for saying it, because a lot of folks have stuck themselves in large data contracts, so are happy to pay to rent their music and movies.
Or have lost their personal data at some point, and didn't manage to rebuild their music collection or such.
But even if you're the 'stream everything' type; if you're just doing touristy things with your fancy 4k camera, then add on some big apps, then 6 months worth of chome 'downloads' folder junk, and perhaps you use the netflix\spotify 'offline' download feature? You're starting to walk the line.
I don't see how 128gb phones manage to keep any notable market share.
I personally struggle to use more than half of my phone's 128GB storage, so I can't see why I would need anything more.
Thats fair; Im sure some folks do still use a phone as a phone; I guess its just my 25-35 age group who tend to use them as multimedia devices, and store lots of music, memes and shows.
Plus recorded video 'aint small; yet not everyone likes video over photos.
To each their own. I just didnt expect the 'small space' crowd to be big enough to warrant so many 128GB sku's out there.
You can get those dual head USB drives with USB-C on one end and USB-A on the other. I think mine is SanDisk brand? Whenever I go on a trip I take 3 of them and I just download my pics for the day onto it and wipe from my phone.
128gb storage isn't huge with modern apps & games taking up a lot of room but it's not unusably bad. My current phone is 128 but I'd like a 256 or 512 as my next one, if they had microsd support that would be perfect but alas manufacturers cheap out. My current phone has dual sim so I'm annoyed the second sim slot can't be used for microsd like some other phones.
This or the Pixel 7 is better?