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$305 for GCP is ridiculous!
Agree, but seemingly out of stock?
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red is available for a few $ more. dont know if there's any difference in the product tho
Wow cheap
Have the Non Pro for so many years, easily $600-700 machine.
That's an insane price for a GCP
Which GCP you recommend , review on the $305 one is not that good.
In market for a good coffee machine
Unfortunately it's been a while and I ended up with something else but remember GCP being built like a tank but can be slightly fiddly for new users. James Hoffman talks about the GCP quite well tbh link
Edit: having looked at the reviews it's hard to say what people might have been upset over. It's amazing for the price, great entry point into home espresso and well built but you do need to be patient at first
Depends on what kind of coffee making experience you're looking for.
The unmodded GCP is a very manual machine with close to zero quality of life features (no temperature control, relatively slow heat up time, small tray to spout clearance, default high pressure value and weak steaming power).
If you're willing to modify it, the GCP has the potential to become similar, if not better, than some premium coffee machines which are double/triple it's price.
Do you have a modded one?
@Robot16: No, I was doing extensive research on it before purchasing a Breville Bambino Plus. Eventually it came down to price since the Bambino Plus and GCP were the same price at the time.
If the GCP was available for $300 bucks at the time, I would have gone down the GCP + Mods route. The mods end up being around $120-150 depending on the price of parts.
@CoreNex: How you doing with the bambino plus?
It was way too fiddly for me and I could never achieve the results I wanted, so sold mine.
@TEER3X: I am currently using a Breville Dual Boiler. I ran into similar issues with the Bambino plus. I could never achieve a clean pull when using a naked portafilter, there was always a bit of channeling. I also miss having a cup and portafilter warmer and pre-infusion functions that came with the Breville Barista Express.
Ultimately the Bamino Plus is great machine for the price, form factor and feature set but I needed something with more grunt, space and flexibility when it comes to pressure and temperature.
@CoreNex: I decided a while back that i'm getting a BDB or oracle, but have other more important expenses.
please tell me you're very happy with the BDB?
@TEER3X: I wouldn't get an oracle, as the weak part of that is the grinder. You pay significantly more for a worse feature set that a $500 standalone grinder can do better
@TEER3X: Extremely happy with the BDB. It's as if they combined the traditional abilities of Breville Brasita Express (BBE) with the extensive features of the Breville Bambino Plus (BBP).
I've cycled through the BBE (sold because I wanted to get a separate grinder and the opv was high out of the box), BBP (sold because I started missing the cup/portafilter warmer, there was always a bit of spraying from channeling which I didn't experience with the BBE and the trip tray was so bloody small) and now I'm on the BDB.
Fast warm up time, the steam wand lever is quick to activate, water tank can be refilled from the front without removing the tank, there's so many small quality of life features that makes using the machine a dream.
@CoreNex: Re channeling - was that for the whole shot or just the initial 1-3 sec to get going?
I do prefer the proper sized handle of the classic.
The brass boiler is good, just cant pump out two in a row quickly like dual boilers (but very rare i ever do)
People won't go to too much effort if they are used to pod machines, so those Breville, sunbeams & Gaggia auto would be alright for a lot of people wanting something basic, just can't expect it to make as good a coffee as an auto maching - which is a bit more of a hobby/skill to get it right.
@G-rig: Random, sometimes at the start, sometimes near the end and sometimes appearing in the middle of the shot and disappearing just before the end. The inconsistency of the channeling made it hard for me to diagnose what's going on. Eventually adding a puck screen helped reduced the frequency of spraying but never resolved it.
I do not miss the 54mm portafilters that the Bambino and most Breville machines use. I strongly considered the GCP because of it's standardised 58mm.
The Bambino is perfect for someone who wants an intro to manual espresso/latte without regarding a large amount of technical skills. The auto milk frother on the Bambino Plus is amazing as well as the PID to keep temps stable. The GCP is a tank and only requires a small amount of tinkering until it gets to the level of a BDB.
@CoreNex: Yes i see, that would make it difficult to know.. I like the 58mm and bought the genuine Gaggia bottomless portafilter and it's been great. I think it's normal for the first few sec to be channeling until it gets into the middle (?). The guy at shadesofcoffee said i didn't need the OPV for my older machine.
Pretty fun machine for what it is, and i like how easy it is to mod and work on, upgraded those parts too and it's pretty good now.
Sounds like you found the best of everything, quality, features and user friendly. If it's too manual i know a lot of people ( spouses etc) wouldn't be bothered with it unless they were interested in it all.
@CoreNex: Once you go past the auto frothing convenience, micro textured milk with the BBP is really simple/straight forward
Quite impressed at the capability of the Bambino Plus to be honest, still going strong 3 years later
@Paudius: Agreed, it's an amazing machine for it's price point and form factor. You really can't get better until you're paying significantly more or taking up a lot more room/space.
@Paudius: Good one you know how to froth milk,have to take care and get it spinning without bubbling up like most noobs who have a go on the work machines. Having a decent stainless wand helps (the original Gaggia classic had a yuk black plastic fitting, so upgraded it to a Silvia wand and it's great).
@G-rig: Lance Hedrick has a great simple video on how to do it, took me only 3 goes to get something I was happy with and have improved significantly since then….. probably only steamed maybe 10 pitchers so far
@TEER3X: I use a BBP and it produces very decent coffee (once you find the right beans and grind settings) for the price I paid ($350). For me I had to find a machine that was fast and simple enough to use, in order to convince the other half to switch away from the awful yet awfully convenient Nespresso pods. Once you get the grind right, he BBP is pretty much foolproof.
Will these prices apply in store as well? I’ve never bought from Costco before but they have a store in Adelaide. I’d like to get the silver gaggia classic pro but out of stock online
Unfortunately not.
Great find
GCP with pid is an awesome price. Insane.
Which of these has a PID?
Oh fk I'm not awake yet. Thought the red said PID for some reason.
Yeah thats a common mod.
Gaggia classics are great for tinkering.
Yeah the pid is very nice to have. Did the mod on a gaggia classic I picked up off the side of the road during verge pickup as well as on a rancilio Silvia I have.
@Noctuafanboy: Have never got around to that but aware of it and looked it up a fair few times. Apparently surfing seems to do a good enough job if one is bothererd - wait to heat up till light on, run water out of the grouphead, light goes off, wait for light to come back on before doing the shot.
I think it could end up costing a bit and fiddly to do yourself? I've worked on mine with maintenance and upgrades.
I had to get the pump replaced on mine (leaking) but got it in 2008 or something.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13807409/redir
This was the best upgrade :P
https://www.shadesofcoffee.co.uk/slim-drip-tray-complete-wit…
@Robot16: That was a few years ago, took it to a place and they did it. Those machines are too cheap for them to service but these days I'd do it myself. there are a heap of YouTube videos around.
Silver GCP is OOS
these dyson sticks go on sale all the time all over the place. Is this a good model or am I better waiting for a V12 or something?
F
V12 is a lot more friendly to use, smaller bin doesnt bother me my house is all floored
I bought v15 prior owning v12, had to return, it was too heavy
Agree, no need to get the V15.
i got a V8 Exclusive edition for $440 in the end, with heaps of bonus attachements..
Got one one for a family member too
If you care about weight like me, I have no regret with Dyson V12 detect slim. It's so lightweight and easy to lift up to clean the ceiling without sore arm. I live in generous size 2 bedroom units, so battery is more than enough to do deep clean. I always empty the bin every time, so bin size is not an issue to me.
Worth upgrading? I have a Dyson V6 Animal that is 6 years old, battery still goes 15 minutes and it's a small apartment with hardwood floors so I'm not sure if getting a newer dyson with more fancy stuff is worht it.
this one doesn't come with hard floor soft roller head I suppose…
We had a V6 that ran out of battery. Bought a xiaomi, which was not enough suck. Bought this a few weeks ago and have been impressed. Much more powerful, and with our tight-pile carpet and tile floors it is great - even without the soft head. The larger battery and bin size is a big step up. It is physically much bigger - the canister sticks out further when attached to the wall, but we're learning to live with that.
Worth it to not have to dig out the dust from between the filter and bin.
V6 is pretty average even against a v8
Dreame is about to release their new vacuums the R20 shortly.
Dyson out of stock online.
is this the newest GCP or is there a difference between ‘Gaggia Classic Pro’ and ‘Gaggia New Classic Pro’ ?
Oh wow. These deals are lowest of all time
New gagging classic Evo pro
Sounds a bit kinky.
Don't shoot!
I have a Gaggia Classic Pro and I love it even at the regular price I paid for it. I had a Sunbeam espresso machine before and I thought that was good, but I now realise I had been drinking hot brown water with a hint of coffee-ness.
There are a few caveats that I think everyone should know before investing. People have discussed this extensively on reddit r/gaggiaclassic but my thoughts are:
* You need a good coffee grinder. I believe the rule of thumb is to spend more on the coffee grinder than the machine, it's not going to fix coffee when it's pre-ground, and if you can't control the fineness of the ground.
It's a single boiler, which basically means you will have difficulty making more than 2 milk-based coffee drinks quickly.
* You may want a few extras/mods for it. It's added expense and effort, but you don't need to go all the way unless you want to improve results. IMHO the ones that made the most difference, in order of increasing expense/effort:
1) Get a WDT tool
2) Install the 9-bar OPV mod
3) Install a PID mod, or for the more daring, Gaggiuino mod
* You'll want to watch some of the espresso Youtubers on how to make espresso. It's not hard, but just to say that you will definitely make better coffee with a bit of learning because it's a manual espresso machine. Note that automatic machines don't produce better coffee consistently (or coffee shops would be using them).
Bonus is I save on buying coffee at the cafe, because I hate that it's just not as good as at home.
You need a good coffee grinder. I believe the rule of thumb is to spend more on the coffee grinder than the machine
Probably sound advice but I got the Sunbeam em0480 and haven't upgraded or felt the need to. Back then you had to mod them by adding a washer (shim) so they went fine enough. Solid grinder for $200+.. I only use Aldi medium coffee beans too, great for the price, a lot of nicer ones are 40-50/kg but should get some Bellissimo ones again soon to test.
Also no need for the opv mod on my pre 2015 model. They are built well with the brass boiler, and like having a full-size group head. Agree there is a certain art on getting it right but great machine to learn on and the Cremer and coffee is still as good or better than many cafes. As you say you can't do several coffees quickly as you got to wait for pressure/heat up but isn't an issue for me.
I had that Sunbeam grinder though I didn't mod it. I went with Eureka Mignon Specialita and that alone made a significant improvement. But your mileage will vary, and don't spend more if you are getting good results.
I usually use Aldi beans now too, since I found the hipster kinds don't improve the taste that much for it to be worth it.
True, ideally would have got a bit better one but the machine isn't anything too fancy or expensive anyway.
Yeah they are great for the price (but have increased by $3 a while ago).. still, $15 instead of $40-50 good and you don't need to worry about wasting a bit to get the grind right.
Where did you get the 9-bar OPV & PID mods from..?? (Australian supplier..??)
Watched Youtube video's seems there are some variations in PID's, and the video I watched referred to European models.
Got the OPV and some other less important mods from Shades of Coffee which is in the UK. Very few parts are local.
I went with the Gaggiuino mod, not PID, which meant ordering a lot of things off Aliexpress. The EU model is the same as the AU model except for the power plug.
50% off Gaggia Coffee machines still available, just not the Classic. Seems to be the autos, not sure what to make of them, but half off is a massive discount.
Received the red classic, though it was box opened, and inside was very dusty. Disappointed and will be refunding.
Vacuum it then all good?
Unless they are selling a used one as new.
I must be a bit of a brute as I cracked the grinder setting tool out of the box on one of the Gaggia auto machines. I had a spare from my prior Saeco machine, but it too was cracked. I did follow the instructions to change the setting whilst grinding an espresso, so I'll stick with my brute comment.
Using needle nose pliers in a pinch was not easy.
Either way, I am keen to 3D print with very strong filament a tool that can remain in the hopper, so as to make changing setting on the fly easier.
If anyone else is going through the same drama, I will be happy to report back.
Always something isn't it.. It sounds like a separate grinder would be easier, but no doubt someone has a mod for this issue.
I think you have to spend quite a lot to get a good auto machine.
G-rig you are right - it was a bit painful to see the tool broken on first go and then to find my other tool to change the grind setting also cracked.
That said it is my second Gaggia, and the Saeco in the same family is still going more than 15 years later. It just does not make great coffee. I have had a far more expensive auto brand/machine fail spectacularly that it was heart breaking. At least it went somewhere where they could use it for parts.
On the plus side I had the part designed and 3d printed in a crazy strong filament (name eludes me) today and so I hope to test it tonight.
Turning my mistake into a feature (easier grind adjustments) - hopefully…
Hopefully your improved 3d printed tool works a lot better than the stock one! Could be a market in that stuff. Annoying they don't spend a little bit more and get it right from the factory with a lot of this stuff. The Gaggia Classic is very DIY friendly with plenty of mods around.
Beat me to it