Fairly cheap for 720 softgels @ 5000iu each.
Currently listed on ebay for double that price.
Fairly cheap for 720 softgels @ 5000iu each.
Currently listed on ebay for double that price.
@Bigbabo: If what you want from magnesium is a good night sleep, get magnesium glycinate. I'm taking Solaray's from iherb atm, as it had the lowest unit price.
thanks. ordered this one
That is cheap! Never heard of that brand, but reviews look positive.
Don't forget magnesium too. You need to take all 3. If you increase your D3 intake, your body then demands more magnesium. Very important.
Get magnesium chelated, same brand, also helped me with my extra heart beats, study showed 400mg daily for a week or so, fixes it, and it did in my case. Doctors did shit all.
For K2, I use this https://au.iherb.com/pr/Sports-Research-Vitamin-K2-100-mcg-6…
@RocketSwitch
Hi. Re magnesium, is magnesium chelated different from glycinate? I cant find chelated from the same brand. Help?
Thanks.
Chelated just means high absorption.
This is the one:
https://au.iherb.com/pr/doctor-s-best-high-absorption-magnes…
But yes, glycinate is the best form of magnesium that I have researched.
Chelated just means high absorption.
In effect, yes, but not literally. It also depends what it is chelated with. Chelated means 'bound around.' If it is chelated with an organic molecule, typically an amino acid, then yes, it's better absorbed and more bioavailable. Glycinate is one such amino acid, which not only has benefits of its own, especially against aging, but also allows the magnesium to cross into the brain, promoting restful sleep (the only other magnesium compound I know of that also crosses into the brain is magnesium L-threonate, but that promotes focus, memory and cognition, not sleep).
@RocketSwitch: Thanks.
I got this at home, for days where I don't get enough sun. Vitamins and minerals can be sourced from food generally, as long as you eat well enough (except for b12 if on a vegan diet)
https://www.amazon.com.au/Vitamin-Drops-K-2-Supplement-Absor…
I take 5k every day (with k2) and my D levels have increased from deficient 20 to optimal 130.
Technically they tell you 50 nmol is not deficient but it's not optimal either.
Like many other blood test results there's a big difference between being in an accepted range ( which most GPs only focus on) vs having an optimum level… if you really care about your health.
Imo having an optimal vitD level will save you taking all sorts of pharmaceuticals and various ailments down the track. It's not widely promoted because it costs peanuts to make.
PS: These are normally very cheap on iherb. Sadly you can only get a measly 1000iu in Aus.. unlike the rest of the world.
Review suggests expiry date is this year "I was excited when the package came, I ordered 4 bottles of 720 soft gels for me and family.But it's a bit disappointing when I saw the expire date. I received today 22 January 2023 and the expire date is Nov 2023, the date is too close, we definitely can't finish this before they expire and it will be wasted. Another thing is this item can't be returned"
If they are under 12 months from expiry, it's going to be hard to finish 720 Softgels
Eh they will still work long after there expiry. might lose abit of potency but i doubt it
Just keep them in the fridge.
great deal, thank you
Currently showing as AU26.66 on iHerb
min shipping showing $15 unless you bunch it with something else to get over $80
Not hard to do, as vitamins are consumable, but last long enough.
+shipping (free with $80 spend)
It’s recommended to take vitamin D supplements with food and not empty stomach.
Is that 5000IU/ 125microgram per tablet?
I bought the Swiss brand Vitamin D which has 25micrograms, so the difference is HUGE to Doctor's Best.
Yes in Aus the dosage is very low 1000IU max. Some ppl are satisfied by that but some aren't. Depends on your target vit D levels.
See my comment above.
Plus, ^Suisse — which is not Swiss — is a garbage brand; they use the cheapest synthetic ingredients.
What did you think it should be showing?
I have been taking 5,000IU for over 12 years!
you'll get 10,000IU with less than 15 minutes of sunlight
the limits in australia are down to us signing off with anti-scientific WHO dosage rules
it's criminal imho, if you are dark skinned you'll need a prescription, everyone in winter needs a prescription because 1k isn't going to do crap
That's not entirely true. Probably need 30 minutes and there's a whole range of factors that determines your absorption of vit D3.
Most of the time, you'll need to supplement.
I used to walk to work almost every day, sun shining on me for about 45 minutes. Blood test showed 17. After supplementing with this brand, got it to 120. I take it at least 3-4 times a week, which keeps my levels at 80.
Who listens to the WHO? Look what they did during the pandemic. They would promote a vaccine with free takeaway food, but not promote things like vitamin D3 and how powerful it is the frauds!
there's a whole range of factors that determines your absorption of vit D3.
*production. Absorption has one factor: bile. People who've had their gallbladders removed indeed don't absorb it, unless they take exogenous (ox) bile salts.
you'll get 10,000IU with less than 15 minutes of sunlight
True, if one eats and absorbs enough cholesterol, has fair skin, is nude, lying down, under midday sun on a cloudless day.
the limits in australia are down to us signing off with anti-scientific WHO dosage rules. it's criminal imho
Agreed.
Which K2 do you guys take? I usually get NOW when it's cheap, starting to get low now.
NOW's cheapest K2 is MK4, which many say is less bioavailable than MK7. I'm not too sure about that, as the argument they use for that is that MK4 serum levels drop faster than MK7's. Now, does that mean it's been excreted — defecated, actually — or absorbed faster by the tissues, I haven't seen a single study point either way (not sure why; it doesn't seem that hard to measure K2 concentration in feaces).
Good deal.
Slightly cheaper on iHerb ($26.66 AUD); only if you either combine with other items to off-set the postage, or spend over $80 and get free delivery.
Thanks for the tip. I find it easy to get over the free shipping threshold with iherb. Not sure why anyone would buy it through Amazon instead. Enough to neg the deal — as it's not the best deal — but I know the neg would just get reverted.
Wow, none so enslaved as those who believe they are free I guess?
seems like it
the reaction i got from my comment is a little weird
almost as if i am advocating of the current ridiculous set of circumstances, are people really this dumb of have i misunderstood why the comment was downvoted
Maybe, to me it came across as "OMG how dare you do something the government says you can't do" or maybe I misunderstood your position in some way?
@EightImmortals: how on earth did you get that from my comment, i explicitly criticised the gov for their stupidity
i guess it's just part of the modern online perma-outraged / hypersensitive culture, comprehension doesn't seem to last past the first few words
@desync: Tyranny of text I guess. :)
@EightImmortals: honestly, we are fuked
people have regressed so much that we are no longer capable of self-governance
idiocracy in full effect
@desync: Indeed, but it didn't just happen randomly. If you get the chance, please look up a book called ‘The End of all Evil’ by Jeremy Locke. It is out of print but the author has allowed a few sites to host the PDF and there are a couple of spoken versions on YT. It’s only 95 pages long but cuts right to the chase on the main underlying cause of all of these problems as well the real solution. I’ve read tons of books over the decades and I would rate this as one of the most important for this point in history.
I'd expect a lot of negs on this one but it's far to important a work to leave unmentioned in this context.
I'd save your high hopes for addictive controlled substances being confiscated by customs.
I suggest that an excessive dose of a vitamin D supplement does less harm than excessive doses of substances like paracetamol which can be easily purchased by minors under current law.
Over the counter limit… For vitamins? Advocate for
something highly available and greater toxicity and potential for abuse
Yes it's all ridiculous and the level of paranoia is unreal thinking people will overdose on vitamins. I doubt people will continue to reorder or maintain it anyway but if they are on the forums then they must have half a brain to research the recommended daily intakes etc.
Don’t forget to take K2 with D3.
It redirects calcium from your arteries to muscles and bones where calcium should be
I have lots of vit D3 capsules but don't have K2.
I've just read that if you're taking over 2500IU of D3 then the recommended daily intake of K2 is 200mcg.
What is the cheapest K2 supplement that you guys purchase?
I don't take this brand but it's cheap. I take their vitD though and works fine. Might as well grab everhting from iherb if paying for shipping or mee the min free threshold.
https://au.iherb.com/pr/now-foods-vitamin-k-2-100-mcg-100-ve…
How much k2 you can take at once? Because I take 40k IU vitamin D3 at once on the weekend, so thinking if I can take k2 at the same proportion as well.
I take 200mcg k2 per day with my 5kIU vit D. Sorry can't advise you how much to take in one hit as I'm not qualified. Perhaps you can take k2 daily. Probably best to speak with a good naturopath as you won't typically have much luck with GPs for this sort of stuff
I take these ones https://au.iherb.com/pr/now-foods-mega-d-3-mk-7-120-capsules…, one a day..
I think 180mg of k2 is recommended dayli dose for an adult
@megaalc: *mcg
@wisdomtooth: shame on me
Just a typo — I'm sure you knew — but to avoid confusion to others just starting to educate themselves about it now…
AFAIK, fat-soluble vitamins like D, E & K are fine to be concentrated on a single weekly dose, as they're not excreted by the kidneys (wouldn't include A, as it is the one vitamin that one can actually reach hypervitaminosis by supplementing it).
Having said that, 40k IU/week is not a lot (unless you weigh, like, 30 kg). I take 200 IU/kg/day (unless I'm getting a lot of midday sun on the day).
I got this one last; it's got the standard 180 mcg MK7 K2 dose + 1000 IU of D3 per capsule. It works out 33c/day (not counting the D3 bonus!).
$12.50 a month isn't too bad.
1000 iu could be a bit light on hopefully most is absorbed. Not a bad supplement I guess.
Most vitamins just get urinated out if you take too much anyway (especially tablets). May get one when at CW
How were you damaged and what's your vitD level currently? There's no evidence of any long term side effects apart from some study where the intake was a ridiculous amount over a long time. Nowhere near 5kIU per day.
Yeah, obviously has never read a study in their lives!
How much vitamin D did/do you take per day? For how long did you take this amount?
Also, are people taking 100mcg daily or 200mcg?
What bottle and cost is it? Some seem expensive and would like to get the best value (Who would have thought on OzBargain haha)
The body stores the unused (reasonable) reserves of Vit D . I take 5000 iu every 5 days as I also try sunning at solar noon for 10-15' (never burn as the tanning reduces the Vit D creation.
"max safe vit D3 depends on age, sex, weight, & medical history. According to the Institute of Medicine (IOM), tolerable vit D3 for adults is 4,000."
Back in India they do suggest 60,000IU once a week.
Ref : https://5.imimg.com/data5/SELLER/Default/2021/6/FR/LE/TS/549…
If only 4 tabs I assume they're not suggesting daily intake. Probably weekly/monthly.
once a week
If 60k = 4 tabs, I'd take one a day (as I do).
Used this instead of the vax much better :).
Yep, no heart inflammation, clots, death or the other 10 million side effects on VARES.
Lol. Were you on a Russel brand binge?
Stay away from the bs
My gf was taking 2000IU a day.. then a few months later getting results for a random blood test. The doctor asked why her vit d lvl was extremely high.. way to high for someone not being treated for something.. so she stoped. And that was only 2000IU. Everyone on here talking like they are a doctor. Everyone is different dont give people advice that might be dangerous to them.
The doctor asked why her vit d lvl was extremely high
What did said doctor consider "extremely high"? Most doctors are trained to dose down vit D3 — why?? 😑 — and are told in medical school that 60 ng/ml is "extremely high." They're trained to say 30 ng/ml is good and healthy, when, really, that's just the level found over a 100 years ago, after WWI, that is required to prevent rickets… in children!
These people don't know how to research. They simply say, you're not a doctor shut up. Probably the same people from the generation that listened to doctors who said smoking while pregnant was safe.
You dont know how to research lol. Yo do not have a billion dollar laboratory with scientists that work under you with billions of dollar.. what you do is google what you want to hear. Your conclusion shopping. That is not research. You have no idea wtf actual research is.
@ego22: Sure, because scientists that are working in a billion dollar laboratory want to cure you. No mate. They develop drugs. To patent. And I don't know what actual research is? Keep taking your drugs and be ignorant. Enjoy. Be a slave to Big Pharma. Learn to read a basic study for once in your life.
Yo do not have a billion dollar laboratory with scientists that work under you with billions of dollar..
Research is not synonymous with experimental testing. Literature review is also research. Peer-reviewed published research is ubiquitous and accessible with a click or two (and scihub.org). You don't need to delegate your family's health to a priest class in white gowns pushing blessings, snake oil and holy water in syringes.
@wisdomtooth: You have to know how to read peer reviewed papers to understand them. But what "research" people do is watch YouTube videos of other people who also dont know how to read them, misquoting the paper and telling people how they personally interpret the graphs and data.
Send me any BS vitamin D cure/antivaxxer piece who did their "research" and i will show you an actual scientist telling you what that actual piece of data means they are referencing and what its actually saying.
@ego22: The search rabbit hole
may inevitably result in death
Yeah, listen to your doctor about D3 and it will kill you in the end.
No if your doctor says your d3 is way to high. Then its way to high. I doubt my doctor is paid secretly under the table by "they" to "get us".. its very simple. The results said its to high. She read the results out. There is not much more to it.
The results said its to high. She read the results out.
You might want to reflect on what you wrote. Your trust in your doctor means nothing if all s/he does is parrot what s/he's told to.
@wisdomtooth: So your assuming each and every doctor has a personal level of vitamin D lvl they personally think someone should have? You mean when your blood comes back from the pathology and your levels are way to high and its in red. The pathology put your stats in red because they know what your personal doctor wants in red?? Lol
I dont think you understand what it means to become a doctor.
Do they all make their own stuff up as they go? How did they ever make it through school and graduate thats crazy lol.
You mean when your blood comes back from the pathology and your levels are way to high
According to whom? So you just assume the same health parameters apply to all people, of all ages, both male and female, of all backgrounds, all genetic make-ups, in all circumstances?? How did you ever get through school and graduate thats crazy lol.
Okay, good luck with that. I can't help people who don't know how to do basic research. Enjoy.
@RocketSwitch: Plz, send me what you found on your very very basic YouTube research journey. If people just told all the scientists that they can keep all the money and just YouTube it. that would be revolutionary. Just think of the things humanity could achieve if we just harness the power of YouTube
@ego22: Just think of the things humanity could achieve if we just harness the power of *critical thinking and self-reliance.
If you think you're saving people by telling them not to take vitamin D3, you would be ultimately killing them. Go do your research on what it is. Mass formation psychosis is truly at work here. No wonder why governments and Big Pharma got most of you to take a COVID shot once every 4-6 months.
You will tell people not to take a harmless and effective supplement but you all scream to take an experimental vaccine that has killed people. Amazing!! A vaccine AZ that has been taken off the list due to deaths and the other for giving heart inflammation for people under 30s.
Amazing!! And you're concerned about overdosing on D3, where you have to take 60,000UI for several months for some sort of toxicity??? Shame on your ignorance.
You can’t overdose vitamin D with the sun.
True.
But you can with supplements.
Also true. But, as @RocketSwitch said, you'd have to take over 50,000 IU/day for several months. And — most importantly! — without K2 supplementation. Hypercalcaemia is a result of K2 deficiency, not D3 overdosing. You may want to try K2 first, before crucifying yourself for taking 25 mcg D3 a day.
Thanks. Everyone thinks they're an expert now, after watching a few tik toks. Or even after they've read crazy comments on OzB. 😂 A sucker born every minute. I trust my Drs. They're not making a single cent from those supplements. Can't be said for the chemists who reap the profits, or the health food manufacturers.
While vitamin D is important for maintaining good health, excessive intake can lead to harmful side effects. Some potential side effects of high doses of vitamin D include:
Hypercalcemia: Vitamin D can increase the levels of calcium in the blood, which can lead to a condition called hypercalcemia. This can cause symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, constipation, weakness, and confusion.
Kidney damage: High levels of vitamin D can cause damage to the kidneys over time, especially if taken in supplement form.
Dehydration: Vitamin D can act as a diuretic, causing the body to expel more fluids and leading to dehydration.
Interference with medications: Vitamin D can interfere with the absorption and efficacy of certain medications, such as those used to treat high blood pressure or heart disease.
It's important to get enough vitamin D, but it's also important not to exceed the recommended daily intake levels. If you are considering taking a vitamin D supplement, it's important to talk to your healthcare provider to determine the appropriate dosage and to ensure that it will not interact with any medications you are currently taking.
Vitamin D can increase the levels of calcium in the blood, which can lead to a condition called hypercalcemia.
BS. In mostly all cases, Vit D related hypercalcaemia is caused by K2 deficiency, not excess D3. The only recorded case of hypercalcaemia caused by vit D was of someone who raised their serum level to 400 ng/ml, which is nearly impossible with any dose below 400 IU/kg/day, let alone when K2 is not deficient.
Lol… you know better than these guys
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h….
Not only that article, just search "Hypercalcemia Vitamin D"
please don't put innocent people at risk, just take medical advice from healthcare providers…
I saw lot of gurus said in comments, I took 10,000 , 5,000 for 3 years, 2 years, blaa blaaa…
Kidney stones: Excessive intake of vitamin D can increase the risk of kidney stones, which are painful mineral deposits that form in the kidneys.
something like kidney stones build slowly, side effect may appear after couple of years… don't put your life or health at risk… always take medical advice.
Lol… you know better than these guys
Probably not. The Mayo Clinic goons know they're the Drug Cartel's main Marketing Dept, and know better than to say margarine is healthier than butter (but do it anyway). They're not stupid; they're just dishonest (like mostly all high ranked enough in the petro-pharmaceutical drug industry).
Did you even read the article???
"Taking 60,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity."
Who the hell takes that much in a day for several months?
Stop spreading bullshit mate!
@RocketSwitch: You can also die from drinking too much water at once.
1000-5000 UI of vit D per day is totally safe.
1000-5000 UI of vit D per day is totally safe.
Not necessarily. To someone already at 400 ng/ml 5000 IU can be straw to break the camel's back. But anyone at 100 ng/ml or below can take even 50,000 IU without a worry.
@wisdomtooth: Talking about the majority of people here, without special conditions - of course check your levels first and get blood work done.
Plenty of countries don't get a sunny winter and even in Aus many people in office jobs don't get enough sun (rainy and short days etc), so some normal supplementation doesn't hurt - I wouldn't recommend 50,000, sounds like an overkill if 1000 -5000 is too much.
even in Aus many people in office jobs don't get enough sun (rainy and short days etc), so some normal supplementation doesn't hurt
Absolutely.
I wouldn't recommend 50,000, sounds like an overkill if 1000 -5000 is too much.
50,000 IU is a treatment dose for people with serious deficiencies (or, dare I say, treat early COVID).
@wisdomtooth: Oh ok. Who is worried about covid anymore really..
Point is for most people 1000-5000 UI is fine, 1000 you wouldn't waste your time to be honest.
@G-rig: It seems we're on the same page.
Halal?
What is vitamin D good for?
D
A lot. It's actually a hormone, and much like all other hormones, it has many functions in the body, especially around the immune, skeletal and circulatory systems.
Thanks, I think it would be cheaper than getting vitamin d and k2 itself. Can you recommend me a good brand for zinc and magnesium?