Fairly cheap for 720 softgels @ 5000iu each.
Currently listed on ebay for double that price.
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yours being 1000 does not mean this is overdosed :D
I found this from a quick google search: If you're taking a vitamin D supplement, you probably don't need more than 600 to 800 IU per day, which is adequate for most people. Some people may need a higher dose, however, including those with a bone health disorder and those with a condition that interferes with the absorption of vitamin D or calcium, says Dr. Manson. Unless your doctor recommends it, avoid taking more than 4,000 IU per day, which is considered the safe upper limit.
My GP prescribed 20 min sun STAT followed by 15 min sun mane once daily
Is that enough though? I don't think it's enough especially in winter. Try 40 minutes sun during winter. Also don't forget your skin cancer appointments in the future.
Australian winter sun is useless even in Qld; it's too low in the sky for UVB to penetrate the atmosphere, which is what we need to turn cholesterol into cholecalciferol, i.e. Vit D3.
@keejoonc: Are you a trained english teacher or have an education background to correct peoples spelling mictakes
UV-free — that's not gonna work; we need UVB to turn cholesterol into cholecalciferol (i.e. vit D3).
The ozbargain website header provides me with all the vitamin d I need. Need those sunnies though.
I've been taking 5000iu for everyday for over 2 years and my levels are now within 'normal' ranges so I'd say 1000iu is under-dosed :P
You my friend must be $htting it out! do you like the taste of these though? I love it.
Tbh I've never chewed one, I swallow whole. (this is not me flirting with you either)
@Mike444: Chewing is not a bad idea, if you keep it under your tongue long enough for sublingual absorption (fully circumventing the need for bile to absorb it through the intestine). Otherwise, you're probably just ruining the enteric coating, and it's mostly all getting destroyed in your stomach.
@wisdomtooth: Agree, I use these drops from Amazon and no complaints. Contain K2 as well. 1000 iu wouldn't be enough, and don't assume the whole lot gets absorbed.
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@wisdomtooth: Vitamin D is a lipid, you won't get any lubligual absorption. It also doesn't require enteric coating and passes through the stomach just fine. Just eat them normally.
Agreed, i've been on 10,000 for the last 2 years and noticed a significant uptick in energy and sleep quality.
The 1,000 iu "recommendation" is stupidly low. I've read the papers and up to 10-15k was fine. Honestly anything below 10k and i don't notice any difference, 10k and above feels like i've had a shot of caffeine.
10k and above feels like i've had a shot of caffeine.
While this sounds great, I feel like it'd be difficult to fall asleep.
Does it keep your mind racing at night?
@montorola: Vitamin D is interesting in that it actually regulates your natural melatonin cycle (similar idea behind why you feel drowsy after being out in the sun a while). Just don't take it close to bed time.
So basically all the benefits of being more energetic such as caffeine whilst avoiding the anxiety, insomnia and drowsiness the next day (due to an increased number of adenosine receptors).
Just don't take it close to bed time.
I've been hearing lots of health practitioners now advising the opposite: taking it at bedtime. Sounds counterintuitive, but there's mounting evidence of circadian vit D3 serum levels correlating to sleep quality. Perhaps from sun exposure to actual production takes a few hours, precisely the time till bedtime.
@wisdomtooth: Fair enough, i've just read that it relates to a suppressed melatonin response - which would be needed for sleep.
The 1,000 iu "recommendation" is stupidly low.
This! *Criminal, actually.
I take 15,000iu/day — 200iu/kg/day — which sounds like a lot, but is just 375mcg/day. Either way, as vitamin D3 — a hormone, actually — is fat-soluble, what matters is the serum level, not the dose, and, again, the recommended 30 ng/ml is "stupidly low." That's the minimum minimorum level to prevent rickets… in children! The optimal level for health and immunity is much closer to 100 ng/ml.
@wisdomtooth: The rickets comment is spot on. There's a lot of evidence (non pharma trials of course) that you need to be 100nm/ml or anove for all sorts other benefits. Sadly the health system is out of touch
@wisdomtooth: same…i take 15,000 for autoimmune issue. I also K2 Vitamin to counter excess calcium from D3
@melb-ourne: To me 15k is a maintenance dose; for actual treatment I'd be looking at 50k/day, which is what I recommend to friends and family when they're coming down with something respiratory. Obviously, that's not sustainable, unless it's regularly monitored (with blood serum exams). And, yes, always take K2 (which doesn't "counter" D3, but complements it in the calcium transport pathway, and is beneficial in a myriad additional ways besides working with D3).
thanks for this post.. have only used 5000
@chulbul: That's just 3500 IU/day. If your levels truly are "dangerously low," there's no point tiptoeing about it; I'd take 50k/day already. Or even a 1.5mg injection. And 200 IU/kg/day thereafter to keep it as close to 100 ng/ml as possible. Vit D is fat-soluble; dose is nothing; level is everything.
Trust me.
How could I not! Your comment is deeply nested in a bargain forum. That's the equivalent of a Cochrane review in my book.
Dude I almost died. Look up hypercalcemia
How much did you take? How long for? How much vit K2 did/do you take?
@Valowick: I imagine every doctor you meet just stares in confusion?
It doesn't make sense that 1000iu harmed you, that dosage is tiny. I see you are warning people against taking vitamin D further down. Have you ruled out other causes?
Have you ruled out other causes?
It was unquestionably the covid vaccine. Related story: I had a mate who worked in a chemical factory handling compounds like hydrofluoric acid, which can dissolve calcium out of your bones and cause heart failure due to hypercalcaemia as OP had. He never wore any protective gear in his job, but he was also understandably reluctant to get the covid vaccine, but I convinced him to get it. Sure enough he suffered immeasurably as a result of that damn vaccine.
/s and not making fun of you Hunterex, I'm sorry to hear of your suffering. It sounds shit and understandably scary. I was only commenting above in response to your "believe me, bro" comment - I'm still sceptical your condition was caused by Vitamin D but it may have been, especially if you have an underlying condition that increases your sensitivity or metabolism of that vitamin or vitamin formulation.
Liver seal diet
What exactly did you do.
To determine the correct amount, what you should be considering in consultation with your GP is if you have symptoms of vitamin D deficiency.
What are the symptoms?
blood test = results
A reasonable source is Vitamin D deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency in adults, but discuss your personal circumstances with a GP.
Key facts
Lol, or are you severely underdosed?
Safe levels are up to 10-15k
I've been taking 5000IU for a few years and at my last blood test my D3 levels were at the optimum level. I cut back when it's nice and sunny though.
you need to take 50k intenational units for MONTHS to experience signs of toxicity
australia goes by corrupt WHO rules/dosage limits which are NOT based on science or research
Id take my chances with toxicity over skin cancer ;)
wrong
Yes standard dose is 1000IU for eg Ostelin. Nevertheless it’s a great deal thanks OP
you need to take 50k intenational units DAILY for MONTHS to experience signs of toxicity
australia goes by corrupt WHO rules/dosage limits which are anti-scientific and not based on research
it's almost like there is a conspiracy to keep peoples immune systems down
fortunately living in australia we generally don't have vitamin d deficiency, unless it's winter or you have darker skin
As little as 5,000 IU daily in conjunction with calcium supplementation can result in toxicity. If you’re wanting to take 5,000 or more you should probably actually get bloodwork done to check your serum levels first.
in conjunction with calcium supplementation
Does it not occur to you that that's the problem, especially when what people supplement calcium with is calcium carbonate, i.e. chalk??
it's almost like there is a conspiracy to keep peoples immune systems down
There is. Chronic disease is the medical-industrial complex's golden egg goose.
So true. Why cure an illness when you get people to shell out for your medications for decades?
The next big thing in chronic illness money making seems to be newer diabetic peptide drugs like Ozempic.
actually we do have deficiency but it's framed in a way that may look like otherwise. We may not be low enough for 'rickets' but way too low to prevent a whole host of other conditions.
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Perfect if the other bottle is for someone else but if not, the 2nd bottle will expire before you've finished the first.
These contain gelatine fyi for the veggos or vegans
Most (almost all) vitamin d3 is an animal product
Ostelin seems to be vegan
Nope. It's lanolin origin.
"Ostelin’s Vitamin D3 ingredient is derived from the lanolin of sheep’s wool." From ostelin's website. So vegetarian but not vegan.
Most likely any lichen / vegan lichen vit d would proudly announce this. I mean just look at the product advertised here, it's proudly announcing that it's non-gmo despite the fact you don't get vitamin d from generic altering things - ie all vitamin d is non-gmo.
It’s a good deal
I read some study a couple years ago about too much being quite negative and switched to 1000iu X 2 instead of 5k.
It's not like vit C where you can just take 5000mg and it just passes thru
whats the side effect ? i have issue with bone (hip) so thinking 5k is good
From what I've read, overdosing is next to impossible unless you're taking the tabs and in the sun 24/7
I thought there was a heart calcification issue with large doses if not taken concurrently with K2.
I thought there was a heart calcification issue with large doses if not taken concurrently with K2.
Exactly, that's K2 deficiency, not D3 overdose (same with sodium and potassium, zinc and copper, etc).
Trust me.
That settles it then. How much did you take? How long for? How much K2 did you take with it?
You should really involve a doctor if you already have a medical condition, especially if you’re also supplementing calcium.
passes thru and causes kidney stones. NOICE!
D3 stores in fat & liver like vit AC&E, it doesn't pass through.
like vit AC&E
A, *K & E
what is non gmo in a medicine ?
It's advertising rubbish. I don't think any vitamin d3 is genetically modified. It comes from chemical modification of cholesterol obtained from sheep's wool.
You can get vegan D3 which is made from lichen.
It's advertising rubbish.
Not necessarily; there's more in a pill or capsule than just the active ingredients. There are oils or fillers, there are capsules or coatings… Even a 10,000 IU tablet/capsule is just 250 mcg of actual vit D3. In the case of softgels, the rest of it is typically sunflower oil, but could be GMO soybean oil too.
I love the taste of these and have it as a snack? Anyone else want to admit to it?
What flavour is it?
Tastes like oil. No specific flavour. I love the chewy outside of it as well.
Until I find another person who loves this, I will remain loveless.
Not entering the discussion of "need" for taking D3 and how much is enough (or perhaps too much). However, if you decide to take it please take it with K2…
yeah at least 180mcg with Vitamin K2 (MK7) daily.
Agreed, and I too lean towards MK7, but am not entirely sold on it. Perhaps the reason why MK7 serum levels last longer than MK4 is precisely bc MK4 cellular absorption is faster?
Vitamin D technically is not a vitamin. However, the way that your body makes, transports, and responds to vitamin D makes it more like a hormone. Vitamin D is one of the most important hormones in your body. It is either responsible for or contributes to many critical cellular processes.
Optimal vitamin D levels are needed for the optimal function of your immune system, optimal mood, and behavior. It even contributes to normalizing your blood pressure and blood sugar and aids in your anti-inflammatory capacity. In addition, Vitamin D has been well-studied as a co-treatment for pneumonia and moderating the cytokine storms (dangerous hyper-immune responses) associated with certain infections, including viral infections like COVID-19.
A number of functional genes influence your ability to absorb, transport, and activate Vitamin D. This ultimately impacts the efficiency with which your body can use Vitamin D to perform important functions related to anti-inflammation and immunity.
CYP2R1 is in charge of converting the Vitamin D2 that you absorb from the sun into its active Vitamin D3 form. If you have a suboptimal version of the gene, supplementation with D3 is recommended.
GC/VDBP is a group control protein (Vitamin D binding protein) responsible for transporting Vitamin D from its activation site to its action side (where it can influence the body)
VDR gene influences how efficiently Vit D binds and activates at the receptor site. The VDR transcriptome is strongly correlated to your immune response, hormone production and balance, and even your mood and behavioral patterns.
The combination of an individual's genes (optimal, suboptimal or poor) determines the ideal dosage for the individual. So it's hard to say 1000IU or 5000IU for everyone, as their ability to convert, transport and activate can range wildly between each patient.
Needless to say, the population is generally chronically Vitamin D deficient. We cover up in winter, and apply sunscreen during summer, and people are more generally indoors, so supplementation is recommended for everyone.
CYP2R1 is in charge of converting the Vitamin D2 that you absorb from the sun
The sun doesn't radiate vitamin D2; rather, it's UVB which we use to convert cholesterol into cholecalciferol, vit D3. Vit D2 is what fungi produce.
Get a blood test and you can tell.
Needless to say, the population is generally chronically Vitamin D deficient.
Needs saying. Can't be stressed enough. The medical-industrial complex wants people to remain vit D deficient; vit D is the key preventative to mostly all chronic diseases, the medical-industrial complex's primary cash cow.
I am unsure whether optimal Vit D levels have been defined in humans. Eat it if you like the taste! #vitDcapsulestastegreat!
There are two sources of evidence of what the optimal vit D level is for humans: correlation to health indicators and disease, and archaeology to ancestral diets and lifestyles. The balance of from either source seems to suggest the optimal level is around 100 ng/ml.
With higher doses of Vitamin D3, it's better to also take Vitamin K2 at the same time. This helps to ensure the calcium transported by Vit. D goes to where it's needed and doesn't accumulate as deposits in your arteries.
thanks. seems this is cheaper if i want to get k2
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