Very, very cheap retail price, especially for anyone who doesn’t get these subsidised.
If you’ve hypoglycaemia or regularly have low blood sugar, or think you might be pre-diabetic - worth a trial.
Limit 1 per customer.
Very, very cheap retail price, especially for anyone who doesn’t get these subsidised.
If you’ve hypoglycaemia or regularly have low blood sugar, or think you might be pre-diabetic - worth a trial.
Limit 1 per customer.
Yeah but they've probably only got a fairly narrow window of time to make some coin before glucose monitoring is baked into smart watches
It's been "almost there" for about 5 years now.
Unless smart watches start shipping with a canula to go sub-dermal, that's never going to be more than a gimmick or toy.
Got one for my cat! Poor bugger has diabetes and this great to monitor him especially when dialing him in with his dose at first.
How the hell do you keep this on a cat? Fur notwithstanding, wouldn't it try to get it off?
now I wanna know!
Pick a spot on the back that he can't reach easily, shave it and apply it with some skin glue. He was wearing it for 6 days then ripped it off.
$250 per month, $3000 per year? That price has to come down.
If you go to the product section it's $102. The Libre 2 was $90 back in June 2022. Sucked big time if the sensor failed, but the good thing is that Abbott's support was great.
Yes CGM is very expensive. I held off purchasing it if my BGLs profiles were right, only got them if I needed the extra monitoring to work out my insulin rates. The Medtronic Guardian CGMs that I am on now costs $70 and lasted a week. Thank goodness for NDSS subsidies which brought it down to around $7.90/sensor.
For some reason this site is just the best. Thank you.
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Crime. 🤫
Have you made up your mind to compete with @jv in accumulating most number of negs ?
No one wants to be like you
Attended the launch of the Libre 2 a few years back. Got a free sensor AND a free Story Bridge evening climb here in Brisbane. A win in my books!
Have since moved onto a different CGM that works with my pump but the application of the Libre CGM onto site is so much better than the one I currently have. I think Dexcom applies in a similar fashion to the Libre.
Thanks. Good timing. I was looking into CGM products recently. I'm pre diabetic so not eligible for the subsidy. I enquired about CGM products In a pharmacy store and was shocked at the high prices lol. And I was told the patches need to be continually changed every couple weeks? So does that mean after this free trial patch is used, the monitor is useless to me unless I buy the replacement patches at market prices?
Correct. 2 weeks after enabling this CGM, it stops working. They're designed to be disposable.
You mention patches and monitors. They're the same thing. You put the patch on your arm, and it sends the data to their app on your phone.
Ah I see. Thank you.
Yes you will need to pay full price if you need more. But for non-diabetics two weeks should give you plenty of info about how your lifestyle affects your blood sugar level so you can make the right adjustments.
Cheers. Thanks. I guess $15 should be well spent to see how my glucose level spikes as a pre diabetic after I eat something during that 2 weeks.
Thanks for sharing! Does anyone know which trial pack is more useful for pre diabetic concerns?
Pretty sure the actual sensor is exactly the same - you don’t measure T1 or T2 differently. I think they market it separately because if you’re T1, it’s very likely that you get a subsidy whereas there is no subsidy for T2.
Thank you.
It'll get you 14 days of data, so it's okay to have. The sensors are the same just T1 gets a subsidy, T2 doesn't.
Note spikes are normal when you eat sugary stuff, it's how long it takes to come down that is of concern.
If you want to do it properly, you'll need a full glucose blood test where they give you I think it's 50 grams of sugar in a drink and check it at 0, 60 and 120 minutes. GP can refer for this.
If you subscribe you can get 2 sensors every 8 weeks for $204. After 5 orders you get the next free. So that's 12 sensors for $1020, free shipping. You can pause subscription if you don't need one each month. Their expiry is quite long so you can use the 12 sensors over 18 months or 24 months for example. It's a great way to check how your HbA1c might look before you get it done. For me it is great discipline, I seem to be more dedicated to managing sugar when I can see the result immediately. They really should be subsidized for type 2 diabetes as they are proven to significantly improve overall levels. Hopefully the government will do something, maybe even part subsidised since the long term health outcomes will be significant on a population basis. Diabetic complications are a huge health care cost and anything that can be done to improve this seems a sensible approach for government. Don't hold your breath though.
You don't need a separate reader machine for these libre sensors. The sensor is read by an app so the sensor cost is the only cost (unlike dexcom where the sensor needs to be bought separately - although the cost of dexcom and libre are competitive with each other somehow since dexcom gives a 30 day reading not 2 weeks like libre - they are a bit bulkier on the arm though). You can get a cheap dexcom sensor as well if you want to trial dexcom. They will no doubt have a similar subscription model too?
My husband is type 2 diabetic. He gave up on libre due to high failure rate and lack of support. The best atm is dexcom 7
This technically is targeted as requires diagnosed diabetes (they ask if you're type-1 or type-2), but they don't actually check you have it. You can select type-2 and still order.
I got one of these on trial for mum elderly mum (early stages of dementia) who has Type 2 diabetes.
Naive me thought "no needles" meant no needles, so when I saw the needle-adjacent item on the sensor I was dreading it! The applicator did its job no worries and mum didn't even notice!
BUT
I taped it on and checked it and told her to just be careful with it, but it fell off in the shower after 4 days. It's a shame you can't reattach it, because the data was BRILLIANT for me to have! Is there really no way to make them a bit more robust?
There's overtapes or patches to go over the sensors to create a stronger bond.
I've used Not Just A Patch and Type 1 Strong, both very similar products but I like the Type 1 Strong ones. Easier to put it on with one hand when attaching to the back of the arm.
My son has had Type 1 for 12 months, and for the first 6 months we had Freestyle Libre 2 CGM sensors. I would caution people who are considering getting this for the purpose of seeing whether pre-diabetes should be a concern that we found the accuracy to be pretty poor. He now uses the Guardian 4 sensor from Medtronics and it's significantly better for us.
If you were going to do this, I would recommend also seeing if you can pick up a fingerprick tester to test the CGM's accuracy. My actual recommendation would be to just get one of those instead, you'll only have the modest ongoing cost of test strips then.
Anyone knows if I can claim health insurance for such product without officially being diagnosed diabetic?
Not with any fund I've ever heard of.
The only thing I've claimed from my PHI for diabetes is insulin pump. It's categorised as a prosthetic in the hospital cover.
The Medtronic pump is around $8500 - $9000. And I get a new insulin pump when the pump warranty expires every 4 years.
Is there anything like this that you can buy just once off and not a subscription thing? Or is really about the sensors that need to be replaced regularly?
Sensors are a single use product with up to 14 days life. Freestyle is the longest and currently one of the only ones that has a one piece sensor and transmitter, both disposable.
Apparently you can buy 3rd party adhesive patches that prolong the life of the sensor up to one month
You can definitely buy patches to keep them on the full 14 days, which I can say from experience is a big problem otherwise, but IIRC (we've moved to Guardian 4 sensors/transmitters, I may be wrong) the sensor will disable itself in the app after 14 days.
Dexcom Anubis Transmitter - Extended sensor maximum life to 60 days (standard is 10 days)
OzBargain should not be doing this.
This is a medical device for people with a medical need. Not a cheap coffee making machine.
If you are type 1 diabetic continuous glucose monitoring might be relevant because your blood sugar can dip easily into the hypo zone and you can pass out or become dangerous on the road. But in that case you are going to have been diagnosed, and a CGM device will be subsidised.
CGM isn't generally required for type 2 diabetics. Their blood sugar is high. But it only needs to be tested once a day, and appropriate action taken to pull it down.
Possible prediabetics need it even less than diagnosed type 2 diabetics. Again, you just need to test once a day to see if it is heading up into the danger zone. Just get your GP to organise a HbA1c test.
A company is offering it for people who need it. If you don't need it, don't use up the stock of ones they are offering for people who need them to try.
No! You giving extremely poor advice. Type 2 can have both too high and dangerously low levels.
I use these sensors with my mother who is type 2 and the constant monitoring is invaluable. It showed her the issues with what and when she ate and identified how bad her levels were getting overnight and how best to maintain a good level overnight.
Type 2 diabetes does not result in hypoglycaemia. Taking too much blood sugar lowering medication does.
If you are trying to manage someone's blood sugar level to be constant across the day like a type 1 diabetic has to you simply misunderstand type 2 diabetes. It is perfectly normal for blood sugar levels to vary up and down across the day.
What are you smoking bro.
Your blood sugar has to sit between 4 and 10.
Anything above or below is not considered normal.
Having elevated blood sugar level for a long time can also have life threatening complications.
Type 1 = deficiency in insulin = you need more insulin
Type 2 = insulin resistance which means you need more insulin which can be managed by diet /excersise if the person is willing. If not then medication and some eventually have to take insulin due to poor compliance
@easternculture: I think what they’re getting at is your insulin can spike and trough, but if it goes back to normal and doesn’t adversely affect you / there’s really not much point in doing this.
The numbers are based on studies but the human body and genetics are weird. You might have naturally very low blood sugar baselines and frequently dip below 4 but you might be fine.
Of course it's a sensible option for type 2 diabetics. Research has proven it is useful in reducing blood sugar. If it works for you and you don't mind the cost do it. I don't mind using one every 3 months or so at a cost of about $400 per year. It is stupid so say you should not be treating a condition you have been diagnosed with. In the UK the cgm is available for type 2 people who have frequent hypos. Not here in Oz though. Nonsensical to suggest these huge pharmaceutical companies will run out of stock.
Any other trials like this from other brands?
Excellent product, highly recommend the trial. I wish product was not as expensive so I could buy this more often. I think the adoption would go much higher if the pricing was a bit sharp.