Swapping Rims with Existing Tyres

Hi

I'm looking at getting new rims from Facebook marketplace. I don't need new tyres as they still have 80% tread and will fit the rims.

How much should it cost to remove the tmps and tyres on the existing rim and installing them on the new rims?

Cheers

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  • $30-40 a pop for tyre fitting.

    You'll probably want to do full balancing/alignment as well with all new rims on a car which will be extra.

    • Thanks. Will definitely factor in the balancing and wheel alignment as well.

      • You do not need an alignment if you are just changing wheels. You should get an alignment every once in a while, or if you notice uneven tyre wear or not straight steering.

        Balancing is included in the price of tyre fitting. $20-30 a tyre including balancing to fit, $5 a tyre to strip tyres from the old rims

    • +3

      Wheel alignment is not affected by changing wheels. It just boosts the tyre shop's bottom line.

      • True, but while you are there if the alignment hasn’t been done for a while it’s worth getting it checked.

        • Unless there's uneven wear on the tyres or the car is not driving well I don't bother. In the past they've just put it on the machine and said all is good without touching a thing. Easy money for them.

  • I phoned the cheapest local Tyroola fitter for a quote but found they had omitted the disposal charge, so I would have been better off going to one of the brand name tyre retailers. Be wary the price for 4 x slip & refit plus front and rear w/a can vary depending on the day you ask so don't hesitate to phone around

  • I asked a mycar they said verbally I think about 25 each ended up getting charged 150 all up cant remember why..

    • That doesn't help ….

  • -1

    new rims

    *New wheels

    • +1

      Generally ‘wheels’ refers to the combination of the rubber bit plus the metal bit the rubber bit is mounted to.

      • No.
        This is from Wikipedia which apart from the spelling of tyre is correct.

        The rim is the "outer edge of a wheel, holding the tire". It makes up the outer circular design of the wheel on which the inside edge of the tire is mounted on vehicles such as automobiles. For example, on a bicycle wheel the rim is a large hoop attached to the outer ends of the spokes of the wheel that holds the tire and tube. In cross-section, the rim is deep in the center and shallow at the outer edges, thus forming a "U" shape that supports the bead of the tire casing.
        .

      • +2

        Yes.
        Rim is the steel/alloy/polymer part, and can be made up of one or more separate components. The tyre is the black(usually), rubber part.

        The combination is a Wheel.
        Standard in the Automotive world since day dot, regardless of what some nit has said on the not well educated Wikipedia.

        Re Nugs: Why do people think Wikipedia is always correct when it is only various peoples opinions of what is correct, not factually what is correct? It was an American as per the spelling 'tire'.Go to a parts store and ask for the 'Rim' section of a standard what we know as a Rim, and they will tell you the same. Do not trust all you read in Wikipedia.

        • +1

          @doctordv8
          I don't think wiki is always correct, it was just the first result that made sense.

          look at sample 8 on this link, the rim is the contour between the two flanges, atleast that's what we called it when I was involved in the manufacture of car & motorcycle wheels. we also made hubs for laced wheels, that were used with spokes rims

          https://tyreandrim.org.au/sample-pages/
          .

        • +1

          The combination is a Wheel.
          Standard in the Automotive world since day dot,

          Bob Jane, Tyreright, Beaurepairs and Tempe Tyres must not be industry experts according to your nit wit definition.
          Rim is an Americanism, not an actual component of a motor vehicle.

      • +2

        I worked in the industry for many years.

        The bit without the tyre was a wheel or a rim.

        The bit including the tyre was also a wheel.

        There you go. No logic to it.

      • +1

        The definition of exactly what is a "wheel" and what is a "rim" is a bit rubbery.

        If you are buying a "wheel" all you get is what the tyre mounts on, unless it is specifically stated to include a tyre as well. If you are changing a "wheel" you are necessarily changing the wheel and the tyre. If you are only talking about a wheel, the "rim" is only the outer round bit of it, but people often refer wrongly to buying a set of "rims" when they are buying wheels.

        • So is it then more accurate to say "mag wheels" or "mags" to refer to the steel part, and just plain "tyres" to the rubber?

          • +1

            @kiwiyonip: Only if they are made of magnesium alloy

          • @kiwiyonip: Not many wheels are steel these days. Rather aluminium alloy.

            Mag refers to Magnesium wheel which is extremely rare.

            ‘Alloy’ is a word commonly used in the UK to refer to a ‘wheel’.

          • @kiwiyonip: It is never accurate to refer to steel rims/wheels as "mags".

            I always assumed that "alloy" wheels contained magnesium with the aluminium, but apparently not. magnesium alloys have been replaced by aluminium alloys.

  • tmps

    tpms

    FTFY

    Is the PCD, bore size and offset the same?

    • +1

      Is the PCD, bore size and offset the same?

      People generally don't bother themselves with these minor trivialities.

  • -1

    Do the alignment and remember: negative camber pulls chicks

    • Positive camber pulls ploughs.

  • This was easily sorted by the OP, before asking here, assuming the new rims are actually compatible.

    Call around your local Tyre stores. Ask for the swap tyre x ? price including Balance as a minimum, and disposal if required.

    If your vehicle has steer or drive issues ask them to check the tyres for witness marks/signs, and quote wheel alignment only as required.

    Full and total prices and no surprises unless there is a Rim issue, Tyre issue and or a Mechanical issue which would be found before & during the job.

    No iffy, no maybe, no dramas, and no guess work.

    • Sure, but if you see something for sale on Friday night and it seem like a good deal, but not if fitting costs $100 a wheel, then a quick post to OzB gives you the confidence to make the deal.

    • Nothing worse than tyre places that fit,balance etc, and then discover the front end has screwed components that need fixing NOW before an alignment ( or tyres will chop out quick.)

      ""Cars over there mate, ball joint is stuffed and LH tie rod is flapping around"

      Smart tyre places check steering & suspension first.That gives the customer the option to fix it before wasting time/money on tyres. And/or getting it done there & then.Of course the best option is if the car owner is educated enough to KNOW what the front end is like ,too, before arranging tyres/align.
      Tyres places (many) have high turn over of tyre fitters. For a reason. Some use the wrong or flogged out socked on the rattle gun. And/or rattle till the wheels studs stretch. All businesses are not equal.

      • If they tell you before fitting there's a good chance they'll lose the sale. Tell you after you've spent money on new rubber chances are you'll cough up extra to fix the suspension.

        • I get that.
          That's why you (a) tell them (tyre place) what YOU want first, and (b) shop around.Or if you have a mechanic, use them prior. If you are getting the car serviced regularly, and they miss crucial stuff like steering suspension, name and shame them.

  • +1

    The price will range anywhere from $20 each to $50 each inc valves and balance depending how busy the shop is and whether they have the ability to do a cash sneaky job.

    Your old tyres better be mint.

  • -1

    Cambridge Dictionary. Wheel: a circular object connected at the centre to a bar, used for making vehicles or parts of machines move:

    Rim: the outer, often curved or circular, edge of something:

  • Yep, and don't dodge the marking of tyres so you can locate them on the correct corner,(same rotation direction) and maybe swap front to back vice versa, on same side

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