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Best decision would be to get rid of Alan Joyce.
To be sure, to be sure…
They are by end of year I was reading somewhwre that they are actively scoping replacements
Me thinks that its just the PR. He will get another term.
@aparasher: PR it is (most of Joyce's posturing is), but he will not get another term.
Qantas fleet is crumbling, service is appalling, and competition is rising.
They need to upgrade their fleet ASAP and invest in hiring and training the staff.
Joyce stopped investing in new fleet long time ago, in order to make the short-term balance look nice - somehow that resulted in him getting multi-million bonuses. And grabbing our tax money. He will certainly exit the show soon, before bills are coming for payment.
The only unknown is what dodgy scheme will be devises, so he gets even larger goodbye payment.
@Jef Tino: They have already announced the next generation of planes that will eventually be rolled in.
I fly almost weekly and I haven't had a problem with Qantas. A few problems with Virgin though.
@Jef Tino: You're kidding right? QF ordered new jets in 2021, after delaying the decision due to covid. They updated the order last year for some more A321XLRs. The first of the new planes are scheduled to hit the fleet towards the end of this year.
Whilst the interior of the QF fleet look fairly tiresome (doesn't help with their dark fabric seats) but I've had more issues with VA's interiors than QF in terms of functionality.
Qantas will place the largest order in its 103-year history tomorrow signing up for over 150 Airbus jets…
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qantas-place-largest-ord…
@[Deactivated]: That is exactly my point - it WILL. But it HAS NOT for over a decade. Bulk of all those new orders will come for payment once Alan Joyce leaves the sinking ship, collecting his "performance" bonuses for sucking the Qantas dry.
Alan Joyce came to Qantas in 2008. He inherited some big aircraft orders from his predecessor (A380s and B787s), but he hasn't ordered any new aircraft until 2019. (not long before COVID came - which turned out well for Qantas). With lots of cost cutting, without investment in new fleet and big share buybacks, he made QAN performance look good on paper, collecting his obscene bonuses. Payback (and unpleasant surprises for shareholders) will come once Joyce is far away, when next management will need to spend billions on investments that should have been done years before.
@aparasher: You do realise that if he gets another term, in the eyes of the shareholders/directors that it's for the sake of the national carrier. If he's doing such a bad job at being profitable then he'll be kicked out. Public perception and shareholder perception are two different things.
Indeed you were right - he's officially gone by November now
Said no shareholder ever - Joyce is great for Qantas
Is he? Qantas' reputation has gone down the toilet. Finances might be okay now with the post covid travel boom, but when things quieten down the damage done will be more obvious, and by then he will probably have collected his bonuses and left anyway.
@CheapBrah: you would think if their reputation had "gone down the toilet", every flight wouldn't be full - The Syd to Melb flight this morning was packed and I'm sure the flight home this afternoon will also be full - as it has been since domestic opened back up
@the-fuzz: I fly roughly once a week with either Virgin or Qantas, and to be fair, every flight I've been on for the last 6 to 10 months has been packed (or close to it) on both airlines, and they both offer great service in my view (most of the time) :)
What's with all the hate for Joyce, from some on here? The airline is doing well and is very profitable again. That's what shareholders care about.
Joyce has done a good job of keeping Qantas afloat for shareholders.
He's broken a few eggs.
Staff and some customers are unhappy.
The staff can be replaced.
Customers have few better options.
Reputation is a fickle thing.
Like him or hate him - but that's the bottom line.
Totally agree.
Am a Qantas Gold member and flew qantas pretty much every couple weeks.
Melbourne to sydney, $750 one way is not right!
Called virgin, they gave me a challenge which I met and updated me to Gold.
Airfares about $350 one way. Still expensive, but not qantas expensive.
Both airlines have their pros and cons. Preference is qantas but as long as he is in the chair, Virgin it is.
I think if the cost difference went the other way and Virgin was $750 you'd be back with Qantas, regardless of Joyce.
Well, you got your wish HardQuiz….
"Australia's flagship airline Qantas has announced its Chief Financial Officer Vanessa Hudson will replace current CEO Alan Joyce."
"Mr Joyce described stepping down as a "bittersweet moment", having steered the airline through tough times."
Decisions
Not only do you have to register (and choose one or the other), but you also have to:
Make a new booking between 23 March and 28 March 2023 for travel between 29 March 2023 and 28 February 2024 on any Qantas operated flight with a QF flight number.*
Double status credits would be nice, but I'm not sure where I want to travel in the next year.
DSC promos always come around this time of the year and always work like this.
As a July status expiry date who got screwed over with their "apology extension" cut off month, I am not surprised by this sorta thing. It's not too dissimilar to previous double-status credits with the booking window but given the circumstances and it's late March rather than say Feb … yeah nah /very cynical face.
I prefer pre-COVID price, better service, better food and pre-COVID schedule than points.
I also hate them being so Sydney-centered.
i.e. They resumed Syd-Tokyo direct flight first, which is fine.
but then they decided to launch a new Syd-Seoul route months before resuming Melbourne -Tokyo flight.
This is ridiculous.
Given their price and schedule is not attractive at all, no I didn't fly QF last month and won't fly with them for the rest of this year.
Agreed with being so Sydney-centered thing, been wishing to visit Hong Kong but they decided to cancel all direct flight from Mel -> HK till June
Till then all flights need to route via Sydney
However, I found price-wise it is still expensive overall, not just Qantas
Tried searching from Singapore Air, Malay Air, JAL, China Airline and their price are not cheaper either
Guess I have to wait the price to go down before getting any paid ticket
At the moment, getting classic rewards ticket using QF points are pretty good in value but seats are very limited
You are much better off just chosing a different airline.
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They are getting desperate.
Maybe get your arrival time and cancellations back to pre covid levels and we'll dance.
Is there a status credit flight that can take you from start to platinum for less now considering the double credits?
The cheapest is MEL-BNE-CHC RT which will net 640 SCs for $1500.
Do you have specific dates. I couldn’t get mine that low
Look for any Business Sale (I) fares.
sorry mate, can you explain this again?
multi city trip - Melbourne to Brisbane to Christchurch return? I'm getting a very different SC…
Not a multi city, look at Melbourne - Christchurch, and then look for any flights with a stopover in Brisbane. It will net you 140 SCs, 280 return and 560 with the DSC.
@AircraftFreight: thanks. I understand now. I couldn't quite get to your exact SC but got alot closer.
If i'm short of say 180 SCs - do you have way of working out what would be the most economical to get obtain that? (not trying to be lazy but assume you might have a short-cut way to check - if not, I will manually check myself). thanks
@Bargainitis: Probably a return trip from Australia to New Zealand. As low as $1,150. Will net 160 SCs before the promo.
Use a classic reward booking to get to New Zealand, and get a cheap Business Class seat back for as little as $520 AUD. Will net 160 SCs. If you are PC, you might earn 20 SCs on the Y Reward ticket alone.
MEL-BNE gets 60SC, BNE-CHC gets 85SC. It's 145SC each way, 290SC return 580SC under DSC.
That is a normal Business fare, better value if you can find a Business Sale Fare (I) will net you 140 for less.
Just adding in for clarity that platinum requires 1400 SCs.
Do this a few times and wha-la
What is the key benefit of the effectively paying for Platinum?
I know I can get the info off the website, but I’m really interested to hear what experts see as the ‘real’ value… maybe there’s some context or sth I don’t currently appreciate.
It all comes down to whether you fly often or not and route preferences.
If you tend to fly routes where Qantas covers then my view is:
1) lounge access (first class lounge if flying international)
2) quicker check-in process
3) quicker boarding process
4) you are further up the chain when it comes to upgrades priorities
5) ability to bring more guests into the lounge (works well if you got a family)
They don't seem like alot but definitely beneficial.
Oh wow, so interesting! I’m half tempted to actually do that Christchurch route now haha ahh
Thanks for the reply!
@wormarts: just remember though you need to do more than 2x that route as you need 1,400 SC for platinum non-renewal.
Becomes expensive too. I try to book in all my domestic / NZ meetings whilst on double status credit promo times under company which works well of course.
6) more personal service
7) better/faster service when it comes to changing flights or problems
8) better seat selection
9) better rewards seat selection
10) better lounges than gold/Qantas Club
I definitely noticed the difference between Gold and Platinum
@PCHammond: For most travelers, the benefits of Gold might be better when it comes to cost. On domestic flights;
Priority Check In/Service (International too)
Priority Luggage (International too)
Fast Track Security
Domestic Qantas Club, International Business and International Premium Lounge Access (International too)
International Oneworld Business Class Lounges (Domestic too, generally when leaving from an international terminal, eg. Cathay Pacific Lounges, Qatar Lounges ect)
Emirates Lounge Access
Priority Boarding on Domestic Flights
Access to the first release batch of Classic Reward Seating
Priority Phone Service
The main upgrades between Gold and Platinum are;
Priority Check In (International First Class Check In where avail)
Domestic Qantas Business Lounges
International First Lounges
Fast Track Security on all flights
Priority Boarding on all flights
Emirates First Class lounge access
Premium Phone Line (Hobart)
Being able to release Qantas Domestic and International Sale fares into Classic Reward, when approved
Access to most blocked seats in Economy, Premium and Business (Generally in Economy, Bulkheads and Front Row Seating, Bulkheads in Premium and Bulkheads in Business, or on the A330-200, access to seats 2A, 2K which are true window seats)
Being able to gift Gold to a friend or family member (2,400 status credits)
And the third in line for Classic Reward Upgrades, (After Chairmans Lounge and Platinum One)
And a whole lot more for both Gold and Platinum respectively.
fark, just booked a Singapore trip flying emirates/qantas, last week…FML.
Remember its gotta be a Qantas flight number AND an actual Qantas aircraft to qualify. So if its a Qantas codeshare on an Emirates plane, you wouldn't get it anyway. :-)
the flight back was with Qantas, on a Qantas plane so would have gotten the points/status with that one at least :(
Booked in 2 RTs to LHR in F. And a couple other flights (after DSC looking at 5700 SC intake), should qualify for P1 and hopefully might get invited to CL.
I'm looking forward to an English translation of these acronyms.
I think I worked out most of it.
Captain's Lounge? See you there.
Chairman’s Lounge, invitation only private lounge
Ask and ye shall receive…
Booked in 2 [Return Trips] to [London Heathrow Airport] in [First Class]. And a couple other flights (after [Double Status Credits offer] looking at 5700 [Status Credits] intake), should qualify for [Platinum One] and hopefully might get invited to [Chairman's Lounge].
It's hard to tell if this is like one of those Maserati "Thanks OP. Bought 10." posts. I would think the poster, ACF, would probably recognise that a Chairman's Lounge invite is unlikely. Best way to get there is to convince [pick state you believe is full of chumps] to vote for you.
There are also a number of caveats booking such flights because the Boeing 787 does not have a First Class. So ideally you want to book an A380 to Singapore and then onwards to London (and vice versa). Also it's irrelevant if ACF has a partner, because there are no family transfers of Qantas status credits. Plus ACF probably already has First Class lounge access anytime he flies out of Melbourne/Sydney International airports.
It's a real line call whether the OP is telling the truth. But, provided his credit card could take the $27,000 whack, the trips are fully refundable (unless he paid $800 less). All up all that was handed over in these transactions is around $30k or not even enough for a deposit on a house in Sydney. Sure is an expensive coffee at the airport though.
Booked them from MEL-SYD-SIN-LHR.
This is all of my work travel, not paid by me except the upgrade from J to F. Anything up to J is work paid the rest is salary sacrifice.
Booked in essentially a years worth of flexible travel. Eaten up about 80% of my travel budget.
Now overall I spent on our Qantas Corporate Account nearly $115k on my future travel for the next 12 months. Now I’m not here to reveal my salary but the justification of flying J is worth it.
…and I do hope a few of those flights were London to Europe even though said flights will not be eligible for DSC [Double Status Credits].
(also I'm single but my understanding of romantic relationships is partners happily fly in coach)
Genuinely curious… do you have a side business doing frequent flyer schemes?
Maybe you own Points Hacks? 😯
I wish :-) in theory you could earn an additional 1pt per 4 points if booked through QBR.
I just chucked everything on my employers Qantas Corporate Account. Currently standing across the company it’s well above 7 figures. The main traveller in the acc is CL.
0 chance of getting invited to CL unless you’re a politician or CEO/senior exec of a major company that has a corporate agreement with Qantas.
Does the double SC apply for rewards seat made by Points Club member?
Yes
I can't find this point in the promo Ts and Cs. Where do they mention it?
https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/qantas-double-status…
Executive traveller contacted Qantas and they confirmed you do earn for Points Club classic rewards.
Good to know they checked as looking at the T&cs it doesn't look like double for points club was excluded but the wording was ambiguous enough to be doubtful too.
Some people have gotten it but I didn't.
Contacted QFF and of course they just cite the T&Cs. They don't care what any website (both ET and AFF) says they were told by Qantas.
You could pursue through the Airline Customer Advocate but I didn't bother.
So annoying… Had a business flight booked for me last week and I had a feeling this was coming up but couldn't hold off the booking any longer.
cancel it and book again.
I just did this lol
https://cathaypacific.formstack.com/forms/en_status_match
maybe worthwhile waiting for this if you have high tier with other airlines
"Due to the overwhelming number of applications received, we are unable to facilitate additional requests at this time. Please revisit this page at a later date."
application opened yday and website was crashed in 30min
Good idea. I should try finding a match with anyone shortly before my status expiry.
not many airlines do pure status match now, most offer status match challenge which means you gotta fly with them within x days and complete x amount of legs, miles, etc.
Still probably more achievable than re-earning under what Qantas would demand …
anyone know if doing a flight change is enough for this to be considered booked in the period or do I need to cancel and rebook?
Keen to know this as well
If it's the same as past promotions, you would need to cancel and rebook
thanks, doing that now :-).
Typical, booked a bunch of flights last night. frustration
From memory there is a cooling off period when you can cancel the flight. Might be 12 hrs might be 24hrs. It is incase people put in the wrong dates.
If the flights are more than 30 days out then you can cancel for free and get a full refund within 24 hours of booking.
Details here.
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/manage-booking/cancel-for-any-r…
Doesn't it depend on the class you book. E.g if economy, you cant get a refund even within 24hrs if booking?
No, class of booking is completely irrelevant for the 'Cancel for any reason' policy.
See 'Eligible bookings' under that link to see which bookings are eligible, and 'Bookings that cannot be refunded' to see ones which aren't. It's not restricted to class.
@dylarr: i called them to check & they just said no that's wrong if its economy you will still pay the fee, the 24hrs doesn't apply
@Petya: What the operator told you was incorrect which is a common phenomenon when calling Qantas.
I can assure you that you can cancel within 24 hours of booking even in economy using this policy. I've done it many times before. There is nothing on the link I provided that says you can't cancel if you are flying economy at all.
Flight needs to have been booked using qantas.com, must be more than 30 days away from departure, and some other T&C's such as can't have been booked using a flight credit.
It is clearly spelled out on this link here:
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/manage-booking/cancel-for-any-r…
@dylarr: yea operator wouldnt budge was reading line for line to them then they said its outdated. was lost. i hung up and called again and same person said that….
thanks for the detail
Can confirm, cancelled flights at the 23 hour point.
Ticket type or class doesn't matter, got a full refund and rebooked the same flights again paying $1.70 more than I did the first time!
Thanks for confirming! I'm doing that now too! 4 International Flights. Woo!
can someone explain which is better and why? what does the status credits do? Reading everything above, it's a different language… I genuinely do not get anything people here are saying.
I have about 200k+ point accumulated right now and I believe no status credits. what are they even good for outside of say a ticket to LA and back?
You can redeem POINTS for flights (or upgrades (ie. economy class to business class, etc), or other stuff - hotels, products, etc) - but flights, in particular those in the elevated classes, are generally recognised as representing the best value for your point-spend.
Points can be bought, sold (not officially), transferred, accumulated through non-flying means - credit cards, bonuses, and all that stuff, so they're not necessarily a reflection of how much actual flying you do…
STATUS CREDITS, however, can not be bought, sold or transferred, and can really only be accumulated by flying. There are a variety of levels (Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Platinum One), with various perks and credit requirements. Once you get 300 credits you're Silver for a year, 700 for Gold, and 1400 for Platinum, 3600 for P1)
Status is useful to literal frequent flyers who spend a lot of time in airports and/or getting onto planes as they provide quality-of-life perks like:
* priority check-in and boarding (so you can skip the queue of unwashed masses in the economy line),
* increased baggage allowance (so you can get that new set of Mizunos on there for no extra charge),
* seat selection (so you can pick a more preferable seat),
* lounge access (so you don't have to spend a fortune at the crappy sushi bar, you can get crappy sushi for free from the lounge buffet),
* earlier window to purchase Rewards Flights (using your points to get cheap filghts),
* upgrade priority (so you improve your chances of upgrading using points before they sell out), and
* generally you get treated better, as the staff recognise you as a genuine "company-person" and Big Time Operator
Depending on which level you're at, you receive some level of some or all of these, which may or may not be useful.
It's also important to note that your STATUS CREDITS only effectively last a year, so if you only accumulate 290 credits in 12 months, Qantas will have no concerns in wiping them off and you have to start your quest for Silver again from scratch. POINTS won't expire if you add to or use them at least once every 12 months.
tl;dr - POINTS will let you buy flights, STATUS CREDITS will temporarily give you nice things when you're travelling.
one point, you can also get lifetime status, although that requires a lot of travel to get there…
Decisions, decisions………………..