Is Speed Enforcement in Australia Absurd?

Lspeedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 17:39
Last edited 21/03/2023 - 17:53 by 1 other user

Just recently got back from a trip to California, USA and one thing I noticed is that despite the speed limit being technically 65 mph on the freeways, most drivers did around 80-85 mph, even straight past cops and they didn't care one bit. Whereas in Australia, doing such speeds would usually result in a heavy fine and licence suspension in some states.

Every year more and more hidden speed cameras are being used in Australia, yet the road toll is around the same. Other countries, for instance the UK, has a road toll substantially lower than ours, despite it being common (haven't driven there but from friends who have driven there) it's also common to do 80-85 mph in the 70 mph motorways. Australian governments and police are hell bent on speed being the biggest killer in road accidents, when we only need to look at our European counterparts to see it's not the case.

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Comments

    • PleasureMe on 24/03/2023 - 16:50
      +1

      I disagree with you. Last time I was in London, my cab driver was doing 140/150 on the freeway coming from the airport.

  • lostgoat on 21/03/2023 - 17:56
    -4

    Don't worry Andrews's has this under control going towards 0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvxNr50ZTw

    Oops they dropped the campaign .

    • Mechz on 21/03/2023 - 19:10
      +3

      Probably because zero is an impossible target. It was dumb from the start.

  • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 17:56
    +3

    Incoming friend request for "speedingftw".
    40 plus years without an at fault accident(including 20 years driving for a living in one capacity or another), & drive over the speed limit every day, the extent to which depends on the surrounding conditions.

    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:02

      how do you not get caught? aus is like a speed camera paradise XD

      • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 18:09
        +1

        I do get caught from time to time but I just got all my points back.
        I live in the country and try to drive at night if possible.

        • Campbellske on 21/03/2023 - 19:52
          -4

          Country drivers deserve an exemption. Theyve been conditioned for higher speeds and probably know the road

      • zathras on 21/03/2023 - 18:17
        +13

        I only speed a little on open highways where you can see 1km or more down the road. Any vehicle parked on the side of a highway in the middle of nowhere is a signal to slow down. Also slow down over crests and going around blind corners. Not only to avoid speed traps but also for safety. All drivers should be looking down the road where they are going and not just 5 metres in front of their own vehicle. Never speed around towns and schools where there are pedestrians, or idiots that will pull out in front of you without looking. Always slow down in the wet. Always drive to the conditions.

        • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:18
          +6

          bingo, driving to the conditions is far more important than driving to some arbitraly speed limit

          • zathras on 21/03/2023 - 18:33
            +6

            @speedingftw: Speed limits are necessary for drivers lacking skills and experience and the ability to judge the conditions correctly.
            But fines are issued not just for safety, its also budgeted every year as a substantial source of govt revenue.

            I don't mind so much as the people who get caught speeding again and again and again are generally bad drivers who are subsidising the rest of us.
            I think I have only had two or three fines in the past thirty years.

        • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 18:50
          +1

          There is not a lot wrong with your thoughts.
          +1.

    • Jugganautx on 22/03/2023 - 18:16
      +1

      Just because you've never been involved in an accident doesn't mean you have never caused one.

      • Leadfoot6 on 22/03/2023 - 18:32

        If your suggestion was correct, and it isn't, I would have expected that the Police would have been knocking on my door shortly afterwards to press charges/arrest me.

        So far, it hasn't eventuated.

        You might like to provide some evidence, rather than just spite, that your suggestion might have even a small chance of being valid.

        Furthermore, and of extreme importance to me, is that I have never held comprehensive insurance, meaning that I need to drive carefully to ensure that I am not faced with a situation where I lose the value of my car in an accident situation.

        The only time this has backfired on me was when my road/race car was stolen which was uninsured, which cost me a packet.

        I drive faster than most, but also very carefully.

        A long standing motor sport background, like I have, helps to elevate skill levels.

        It goes back to 1981 - see my avatar image.

        Just like not all people are the same, not all drivers are the same.

  • EightImmortals on 21/03/2023 - 18:03
    +2

    Of course it's absurd, can't have the convicts saving any money now can we? They might get ahead.

  • elgrande on 21/03/2023 - 18:06
    +11

    Maybe move to LA if it bothers you so much..

    • Mechz on 21/03/2023 - 19:15
      +2

      The Angeles National Forest, just north of LA has some insanely great driving roads. I was trying to keep up with some 911s in my rental Infinity small crossover somethingorother but they left me in the dust.

      There was sweet FA traffic apart from them on a regular weekday.

      • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 19:16

        I'm pretty sure speed cameras are also illegal in California XD
        So as long as there's no cops, floor it on the freeways :)

  • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 18:09
    +1

    In the city I find it difficult to get up to the speed limit, let alone speed.
    On the freeway, I cruise @ 120, which is about 115 gps speed. Cops don't care, has bigger fish to fry.

    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:10

      is that 115 in a 110 zone? or 100 zone

      • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 21:12

        freeways in nsw are 110

        • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 21:14

          isn't the m5 and m7 100?

          • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 21:17
            +1

            @speedingftw: ah, i am thinking long distance travel. its 110 pass campbelltown

            • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 21:18

              @kogi: ahh right
              do you find that you overtake a lot of people at 115 on the gps? or do alot of people overtake you

              • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 21:27

                @speedingftw: depends on time
                morning driving away from sydney. it mostly overtake past camden
                afternoon coming into sydney a lot of people overtake me from about moss vale

                • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 21:30

                  @kogi: ahh I see
                  how fast do you estimate the people are going who overtake you?

                  • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 21:34

                    @speedingftw: i’ve drafted people doing 130 to get out from behind slow cars.

                    i am partly a delivery driver. I drive sensible in the city and reduce stress. Interstate i def do at least +10. cause that cuts like an hour between syd/mel. and i can get lunch in albury.
                    (the riverdeck cafe ftw)

                    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 21:37

                      @kogi: are there any speed cameras on the freeway once you get of out sydney?

                      • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 21:49

                        @speedingftw: yes. also more and more mobile roadside ones, especially before canberra

                        • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 21:50

                          @kogi: how do you spot them though haha?
                          aren't they really hard to spot these days XD

                          • kogi on 21/03/2023 - 21:52

                            @speedingftw: part of staying alert during long distance driving. i see a car on the side of the road i slow down

          • CurlCurl on 21/03/2023 - 21:45

            @speedingftw: i> isn't the m5 and m7 100?

            M4 is 110, 100 and 90.

  • dtxau on 21/03/2023 - 18:09
    +5

    Just move to those countries (Europe/US). You don't have to live here if you hate our speeding laws and rules so much.

    • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 18:16

      We are now in the 21st century.
      Yet the generic speed limit of 100km/h is still the same now as it was when the open road speed limit went from "derestricted" to 100 km/h in 1978, the year that I got my licence.
      Cars and roads have improved somewhat in that time.
      The brain power of those passing the laws have not.

      • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:17
        -2

        bingo, atleast someone has a bit of common sense when it comes to our silly speeding laws

      • spackbace on 21/03/2023 - 19:57
        +5

        The brain power of those passing the laws have not.

        Nor has those driving on said roads

        So many people can't even navigate roundabouts, how do you think they'd go at high speed?!

        • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 19:59
          +4

          Then remove the incapable from the road.

          Not all drivers are of the same standard.

          • spackbace on 21/03/2023 - 20:00
            +3

            @Leadfoot6: Yet enough are that they're a hazard otherwise we'd have zero reason to take out car insurance…

          • smartazz104 on 22/03/2023 - 07:11
            +1

            @Leadfoot6:

            Then remove the incapable from the road.

            Oh look, no more traffic.

      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 20:06
        +1

        We are now in the 21st century.

        Many of our roads are still early 20th century. Some are late 19th century.

        • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 20:12

          21st century roads and 21st century motor vehicles surely deserve 21st century standards to be applied to road safety issues.

          Keep the low speed limits for the pot holed narrow roads, some of which are near me, on which even I drive relatively slowly on.

          For the more than 40 years that I have been driving on one such road I have in mind in the Shoalhaven that does not actually deserve to be called a road, I have never seen a speed camera or Highway Patrol car on it EVER.

          Why?

          Because the police KNOW that everyone drivers slowly on it, so their rate of return of fines will be almost non existent.

          • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 20:25

            @Leadfoot6:

            For the more than 40 years that I have been driving on one such road I have in mind in the Shoalhaven that does not actually deserve to be called a road, I have never seen a speed camera or Highway Patrol car on it EVER.

            Natural/environmental speed management.

            • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 20:30

              @DashCam AKA Rolts: The natural opposite corallary to that is, of course, speed limits on the new perfectly built road with no people/schools/houses/driveways on it is to be a bit more 21st century with the setting of speed limits reflecting the better conditions, rather than still keeping them too low and making a "killing" on the natural and reasonable inclination for drivers to "drive to the conditions".

              • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 20:50

                @Leadfoot6: You've made a great argument for keeping the roads in bad shape. That will save tax dollars and reduce speed. Win/win!

                • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 20:55
                  +1

                  @DashCam AKA Rolts: And cause accidents and accelerated damage to cars.

                  You're obviously a brain surgeon in real life.

                  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 21:06
                    -1

                    @Leadfoot6:

                    And cause accidents and accelerated damage to cars.

                    Only if you are driving too fast for the conditions.

                    • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 21:08

                      @DashCam AKA Rolts: Then how come German motorists are not being slaughtered by the thousands?

                      I know why.

                      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 21:17

                        @Leadfoot6: Heavy policed speed limits on most roads.
                        Autobahns have good traffic separation and outstanding driver behaviour in comparison to here. If anyone sees an incident, on an autobahn, off the go fast pedal & on with the hazard lights immediately. This works well in notifying following drivers of an incident.

                        People are not taking their 2005 Camry on an autobahn to mix in with late model cars, capable of appropriate speeds.

                        • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 21:19

                          @DashCam AKA Rolts: The recently opened section of road that I referred to IS WORLD CLASS…..but with a speed limit out of character with its construction.

                          • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 22:28

                            @Leadfoot6: I think you missed this bit: and outstanding driver behaviour in comparison to here and People are not taking their 2005 Camry on an autobahn.

                            • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 22:38
                              +2

                              @DashCam AKA Rolts: I didn't miss anything.

                              A 2005 or so model Camry in good condition would have no trouble at all being driven safely at 180 km/h or so, and probably more.

                              From memory, Toyota, amongst other car manufacturers(Australian and elsewhere), used to test their cars in the Northern Territory where the speed limit was unrestricted in part.

                              I've driven my own 2004 AWD Magna at such speeds no trouble at all.

                              It is quite comfortable in that range.

                              I'm still alive to confirm it.

                              • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/03/2023 - 22:40
                                +1

                                @Leadfoot6:

                                I've driven my own 2004 AWD Magna at such speeds no trouble at all.

                                This explains a lot.

                              • johnno07 on 23/03/2023 - 17:02

                                @Leadfoot6:

                                A 2005 or so model Camry in good condition would have no trouble at all being driven safely at 180 km/h or so, and probably more.

                                I am, mostly, in favour of increasing speeds, particularly on highways. I think most of our major motorways could be bumped to the more French 130km/h. I think 180km/h, on the other hand, for your average road-user, in your average car, is truly nonsense. It's a speed at which minor overcorrections could cause catastrophe, and absolutely does not account for the amount of wildlife on our roads.

                            • quick-dry on 23/03/2023 - 01:59

                              @DashCam AKA Rolts: that isn't my experience with driving on the autobahns of Germany or the autostradas of italy. There were plenty of "2005 Camry equivalents", or other tiny little cars with shorter and more squirreling wheelbases.

                              but not everyone drives at bonkers speeds on an autobahn, you just drive to the conditions of the road, your car and surrounding cars.

                              One thing there was less of, was the "I'm going to intentionally drive at speed X to enforce my vehicle speed on everyone else" - which is more of a comment on the bad drivers doing that, than anyone who wants to overtake them.

                      • Protractor on 22/03/2023 - 11:22

                        @Leadfoot6: …because all the neo nasties are in Melbourne?

                    • Windows7forever on 22/03/2023 - 07:20

                      @DashCam AKA Rolts: Pot holes will damage a wheel at any speed

      • smartazz104 on 22/03/2023 - 07:10

        The brain power of those

        driving has dropped a lot too.

    • knobbs on 22/03/2023 - 10:45

      This is a terrible argument to make. Go and live in another country if you don't like it here? So we should never strive to make something better than it already is? That is the same as telling a same sex couple to go overseas because Australian law says your not allowed to marry (before it was changed). Are you going to tell a same sex couple leave if you don't like it?

  • CurlCurl on 21/03/2023 - 18:21
    +1

    I was in NH and MA few tears ago. Friend I was staying with drove 80 and 85MPH. and that was past parked police cars on the Interstates. Scared the crap out of me.

    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:21
      +1

      yep, similar experience in california
      was it also a 65 mph zone your friend drive 80-85 mph on?

      • CurlCurl on 21/03/2023 - 18:29
        +1

        was it also a 65 mph zone your friend drive 80-85 mph on?

        Yep. Sure was.

        • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:32
          +1

          it's so nice cruising along at 80-85 mph in the usa, along with everyone else at that speed, without worrying about speed cameras everywhere

  • Donaldhump on 21/03/2023 - 18:21
    +14

    Other countries, for instance the UK, has a road toll substantially lower than ours, despite it being common (haven't driven there but from friends who have driven there) it's also common to do 80-85 mph in the 70 mph motorways.

    one thing you don't realize is in the UK/Europe/USA people understand the concept of keeping left / right if not overtaking and not tjust the outer lane, in all lanes other than the slow one/two.

    I will get hated for this but Australians just don't do this, some people will just cruise slow as af in the 2nd lane of a 4 lane highway, maybe its different here i dunno. At the very least so many people just go sfa speed in the fast lane, or sit in fast lane even if going the speed limit but not overtaking anyone

    so even if the speed limits were increased always some gronk slowing you down.

    • smpantsonfire on 21/03/2023 - 21:51
      +3

      They are far far better drivers in Europe. In Germany It actually costs around 2-5kAUD to get your license. Your also can’t just take lessons from mum and dad. (You can, but they need a special teaching license to do it, €€)

  • Ricky Jones on 21/03/2023 - 18:25

    Have to be more careful when driving upside down and in the metric system

    • ausdday on 21/03/2023 - 18:34

      and the right side too

      • KiwiTheGreat on 22/03/2023 - 13:24

        You meant the wrong side….

  • Empharand on 21/03/2023 - 18:28
    +8

    Username: speedingftw
    Member Since
    55 min ago

    Posts about speeding.

    Me: 🍿 - I went for the extra large bucket with extra butter this time, this is going to be an interesting thread

  • kiwiyonip on 21/03/2023 - 18:32
    +8

    it's ABSURD, but in QLD, they call it 'Revenue Gathering', these idiots don't just rely on very high taxes paid by the working public, they want to siphon whatever is left in the pockets!

    • EightImmortals on 21/03/2023 - 18:45
      +4

      Well those Olympic games aint gonna pay for themselves.

    • johnno07 on 23/03/2023 - 17:07
      -2

      It's only called "revenue gathering" (more commonly "revenue raising") by people who don't understand how fines work. Road fines go back into road safety initiatives in Queensland (and most other states as far as I'm aware). So it is effectively a tax. How it differs from other taxes is that it's completely optional. It's a tax you can wholly avoid by just not speeding.

  • hasselbladsnapper on 21/03/2023 - 18:34
    +16

    The problem in Australia is long distances at a too low speed, numbs the mind and ends up as road kill - give me 130kmh, keeps the mind "Flowing" rather than half asleap at 100 - 110 this needs to be urgently sorted. Drowsey minds and perhaps Devices are the real killers on our roads - not the extra 10 - 20 kmh.

    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 18:35
      +4

      exactly

      • Protractor on 21/03/2023 - 18:46
        +3

        Where is the evidence Aust drivers have earned a higher speed limit?
        That said, orgs outside the experts in the field, should NOT be driving legislation. The RACV etc and lots of NFP hangers on around the transport sector have too much access to politicians.
        Eventually autonomous vehicles will have speed and direction controlled by external tech anyway.If we aren't dust circling the atmosphere, before then.

      • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 19:07

        Exactly squared.
        More sensible thinking.

    • WT on 23/03/2023 - 10:56

      you still get tired at 130, you get used to it after a while and it feels like 100-110

      Both me and the SO found this when driving across the US

    • johnno07 on 23/03/2023 - 17:10
      -1

      There is absolutely no difference between 110 and 130 in terms of keeping the mind "flowing". A boring drive is still a boring drive.

  • Protractor on 21/03/2023 - 18:41

    Same spurious argument used to defend the blood bath gun laws in America.. Another day, and another would be anarchist wants to tear down the gummint.
    Speed wherever you want mate. But come a gutsa and pay the price.

    Now if you were whinging about the unnecessary and cowboy police instigated chases of cars that are insured, ……

  • Godric on 21/03/2023 - 18:50

    What ever the minimum speed limit is, it is still faster than walking.

    • bobbified on 22/03/2023 - 01:52
      +1

      If whoever was responsible for this 30kph bs in Liverpool had their way, things might not be so…. A speed camera was conveniently placed there as well. I believe they've since changed it back after lots of angry residents made their thoughts known.

      I hope that this supposed "covid-only" trial now gets brought up every time some other clown wants to reduce the speed limits further.

  • pegaxs on 21/03/2023 - 18:52
    +8

    yet the road toll is around the same

    The same as what?? The USA?? You need to fact check that if you think that shit is correct.

    And what's an appropriate number of road deaths? 1? 100? 1000? Or any amount, so long as it doesn't involve your family or impinge on your misguided correlation that because you speed all the time and it hasn't killed anyone, it's safe?

    I would imagine that if we had the lax laws and attitude to road rules as they do in the USA, we would also have a much much higher rate of vehicle related deaths as the USA does…

    Cant wait for your next post about how it's dissolving our sovereign rights to not let someone go out for a night on the piss, pull a few cones, do a line of coke and huff some shards and be left alone to drive home…

    Oh, and dont forget to regurgitate the "YoUsE ArE JuSt PoLiCe BooT LiCkErZ!!" and "iT'z jUsT ReVenUe rAiSiNg!!1!" garbage that comes with these type of posts.

    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 19:05
      -6

      Blah blah
      The 100 and 110 kmh speed limits were set in the 1970s
      Since then, braking distance has significantly reduced, roads have become way safer
      Yet we're still driving at the same slow speeds?
      Take the UK, where people drive a lot faster than us on the motorways, yet their accident rate is significantly lower than ours

      Speed doesn't kill
      Inattentive driving kills
      Distracted driving kills
      Fatigue kills
      Driving in bald tyres kills
      Etc
      In most cases, it's perfectly safe to drive 120 in a 100 zone as long as the conditions allow

      I'd much rather a driver doing 120 in a 100 zone in the right lane, keeping a safe distance from the car in front, with full attention on the road, then a driver doing 80 in a 100 zone on the right lane, using their mobile phone whilst having a burger

      And in response to your comment about drink driving, I think we can all agree that's dangerous in almost all situations
      Very different from speeding

      • johnno07 on 23/03/2023 - 17:14
        -1

        I'd much rather a driver doing 120 in a 100 zone in the right lane, keeping a safe distance from the car in front, with full attention on the road, then a driver doing 80 in a 100 zone on the right lane, using their mobile phone whilst having a burger

        I see your s***house argument, and raise you my own:

        I would rather a driver doing 1km per hour, eating KFC, with a KFC bucket over their head, watching the cricket, than a person piloting a F-35A at Mach 1.6 down the fast lane.

  • Euphemistic on 21/03/2023 - 18:55
    +1

    Enforcing speed limits is easy, lazy policing especially when they use camera cars. It’s be nice to see the police focus on different causes of crashes, but it’s harder to do without putting hundreds more highway patrols out there.

    Is it absurd? Not really. Could it be done better? Yes.

    On the other hand, our speed limits are often stupid. Changing from 50-60-80-70-60-90 is too much. It needs to be simplified back. Remove short sections of higher limits that were put in for ‘natural speed’, it just encourages people to drive faster where you want them to be going slower - around busy areas.

    Maybe increase the highway limits, but then once you go over 100km/h you start using a lot more energy against increasing wind resistance - plus drivers are already crashing enough.

  • JimmyF on 21/03/2023 - 18:59

    Is Speed Enforcement in Australia Absurd?

    Alternative title would be Why are Australian drivers Speeding?

    Pretend the limit is 80 while you're doing 100….. Problem solved.

    Other countries, for instance the UK, has a road toll substantially lower than ours

    Totally different roads to Australia and distances travelled. For example Victoria's landmass of 228,000 square kilometres is about the size of the United Kingdom.

    when we only need to look at our European counterparts to see it's not the case.

    As above, they are not doing the distances that we travel here.

    • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 19:10
      -1

      We travel much longer distances than Europeans, so common sense would dictate we need higher speed limits too

  • trapper on 21/03/2023 - 19:09

    Even with ~3x the population the UK has less young drivers than Australia does.

  • prinsenhof on 21/03/2023 - 19:26

    I'm pretty sure that the accident investigation team has a form with only two options that best describe the crash:

    1. Speed
    2. Other

    Where speed is defined as anything over 0 km/hr.

    I'd say in my area about 5% of drivers follow the minimum 3 second rule, the rest are tail gating and its not because they are raging or anything, its just normal. 1 animal/hazard on the road and you have a pile up. They would all be recorded as speed related for sure.

    When i got pulled over by the police, even they tailgated the shit out of me before putting on their sirens, seriously thought they were going to ram me.

    • bobbified on 22/03/2023 - 14:12

      even they tailgated the shit out of me before putting on their sirens

      I've always wondered what would happen in court if you released the accelerator (not brake check) and they rammed into the back of your car.

    • WT on 23/03/2023 - 10:59

      that show is actually pretty good, its done in NZ and seems to be objective, no ego and methodical

      Prob why the show wasnt recorded here

  • Protractor on 21/03/2023 - 19:32

    OP has added weight to the growing evidence that US police don't police speeding. Maybe they are there parked up watching Trumps tweets, getting ready for the big day….? ( Maybe rolling a number?)
    Perhaps his thread says more about lax policing in the USA, rather than the over policing the speeding here?. Until you see how many ppl speeding who never get caught, it's supposition to a greater degree.
    I used to speed once..
    I grew out of it. Mostly

  • Protractor on 21/03/2023 - 19:33
    +1

    The argument about longer distances only applies to some people in some places.

  • mskeggs on 21/03/2023 - 19:48
    +5

    You must be driving on different roads to me if you want the muppets out there to go faster.
    I used to speed routinely when I was young and cocky, but the stupidity I’ve seen on our roads makes me want to be going nice and slow when some clown runs into me.

    I was on the autobahn at Christmas for the first time, and the cars are speeding past safely, but their roads are flatter than my dining table, not the pockmarked, crumbling mess our country highways are.

    • Leadfoot6 on 21/03/2023 - 19:54

      Just north of me there is a new 10 km stretch of world class standard road bypassing Albion Park in the Illawarra of NSW.

      No driveways, no kids on pushbikes, no schools, no houses.

      Not even any curves to speak of.

      Speed limit?

      100km/h.

      As the OP says…..Absurd.

      • speedingftw on 21/03/2023 - 20:00
        +1

        for brand new motorways to have stupidly low speed limits can't even be explained anything other than revenue raising

        • I like freestuff on 21/03/2023 - 20:48
          +3

          The absurd thing is that you two think saving 30 seconds by going 110 instead of 100 for 10km will make any material difference in your time of arrival. 120 would save 1 minute and that is assuming you instantly started going 120 and didn't have to slow down.

          Road planners have to take into account the fact they know people will continue going the higher speed when the speed zone drops. The road either end of this road may not be suitably designed for that so the speed limit is the same across the whole thing.

          If they did put a higher speed there you would be complaining when they placed a speed camera shortly after the 10k stretch.

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