New Job and Hate It So Much and Need to Vent

Unacceptable on 17/03/2023 - 18:18
Last edited 17/03/2023 - 19:46 by 1 other user

I need to vent to all, because I almost walked out of the workplace and went home today.

So I got made redundant last December and hurriedly found this job, it's a small business (20 employees) but I saw potential to grow.

But over time I start to see the downside of working in the small business, ie, lacking employee well-being and care, lacking support for work, worst of all, the workload is enormously high and everyday is a struggle. With limited resources I have to cover someone else's job when he/she is on holiday. Imagine in large orgs, you only need to focus on your job in your team but in small businesses you have to be a generalist covering a variety of business aspect which is fine but at the moment it is too much for me to handle.

What should I do next. Should I quit now and live on the redundant package until I find a new job? Or stay strong until I get used to the job and their culture?

Unfortunately the job market now doesn't look as good as last year.

Poll Options

  • 52
    Leave immediately, don't look back
  • 25
    Stick to it and get over it
  • 603
    Hold it until you find a new job
Education & Work

Comments

  • Some Human on 17/03/2023 - 18:25
    +32

    I hate to state the obvious, but username checks out.

    Find new job first, then quit.

    • plmko on 17/03/2023 - 18:28
      +5

      OP has the redundancy money already.

        • MS Paint on 17/03/2023 - 18:31
          +38

          So I got made redundant last December

          FFS

        • timthetoolman on 17/03/2023 - 18:40
          +19

          I think that's the part where you're meant to insert common sense from op being made redundant

        • Franc-T on 21/03/2023 - 03:39
          +1

          Why would you think he gets one from his new job lol

    • ggbhai on 20/03/2023 - 16:31
      +3

      Lol.. there should be another kind of voting mechanism that would keep these kind of non-offensive comments afloat without hiding them so that we still get pure entertainment out of it. This thread was hilarious!! :D😭

  • p1 ama on 17/03/2023 - 18:31
    +44

    But over time I start to see the downside of working in the small business, ie, lacking employee well-being and care, lacking support for work, worst of all, the workload is enormously high and everyday is a struggle.

    I don't think what you're describing is characteristic of a small business - I've worked for small businesses who care about employee wellbeing, have support for work, and have great work-life balance.

    Imagine in large orgs, you only need to focus on your job in your team but in small businesses you have to be a generalist covering a variety of business aspect which is fine but at the moment it is too much for me to handle.

    What are the root causes of it being too much for you to handle? Is there a particular skill that you feel you do not have? Are you trying to do too much? Is it that you just need more resources to help manage whatever it is that you're trying to manage?

    Without figuring out what the actual root issues are, it'll be difficult to help rectify it or avoid it when switching jobs.

    FWIW, you've listed the negatives of a small business environment, but have you taken advantage of the positives? For example, in a SME, you will usually have access to senior leadership, you can quite easily request additional resources and have more control over your budget than in a large enterprise. In a ~20 FTE business, you realistically should know the owner, have you had a chat with the owner about your issues and about ways to help problem solve?

    At the end of the day, you've been in your new job for less than 3 months, it's not a surprise that it will be difficult, but you should take the mindset of you being there to drive change and doing what you can to make your job (and the business you work for) a better place to be.

    Or stay strong until I get used to the job and their culture?

    It's not a matter of "getting used" to the job and culture, it's understanding that your role is fundamentally different in a 20 FTE SME vs. in an organisation with > 5,000 FTE. In a 20 FTE SME, everyone does everything, and everyone is a part of the journey. You need to live and feel the mission of the business you're working for when you're in a team of 20. You need to like the people you work with, you need to focus on growing the business (not on doing your well-defined job well) - SMEs with 20 FTE will not have well-defined job roles because they won't have someone covering every possible small variation of the roles they need to fulfil.

    If you have the capabilities to thrive in this environment, working for a SME can be very rewarding. You can build close relationships with your senior leaders, you can potentially get lucrative equity packages, have good job security, and progress in your career very quickly.

    However, if you want to "do a job", don't really care about the business more broadly, but just want a list of "things to do" and to do them well every day and go home and think about other things, then a 20 FTE SME is not going to be your cup of tea. Find somewhere bigger so you can disappear and focus on your well-defined tasks.

    • echineon on 20/03/2023 - 08:44
      +1

      I understand you want to put a positive spin on the SME but large org also got its perk. I chose my current job as I know they have a very good support structure and lots of opportunity due to the size and I have been changing role 3 times during my 3 years tenure. Currently in an Acting role but my Regional Manager seems keen so finger cross. Not all large org are faceless however, yes need to grind and also be actively seek that discussion if you can show you are doing more than well in your current job.

      • p1 ama on 20/03/2023 - 09:47
        +2

        I understand you want to put a positive spin on the SME but large org also got its perk.

        Not putting a positive spin on it, more so just providing OP with a countering point of view on the points brought up.

    • Roddi on 20/03/2023 - 15:20
      +3

      Glad you had a good experience, but my experience of SMEs is more like OP's.
      When you're working directly for the owner and any expense comes straight out of his wallet rather than a budget, then you end up an overworked generalist.
      Never looked back after going to larger organisations (although I did sort of miss the close working relationship with the boss - work aside he was likeable).

  • AustriaBargain on 17/03/2023 - 18:33
    +1

    Even small businesses access temp agencies. You shouldn't have to cover someone else's work, it's not your fault if someone else's role can't be filled. Just apply for new jobs and quit when you find one.

    • Sleeqb7 on 18/03/2023 - 13:11
      +18

      But do they?
      I've worked for 3 different small businesses over the last decade and in each of them other people are picking up slack when someone is away. Not one has ever hired a temp.

      • AustriaBargain on 18/03/2023 - 14:48
        -2

        Well it's not cheap so I bet a lot don't. But they can. Even a small trader with a single employee can if they wanted.

        • infinite on 19/03/2023 - 14:48
          -1

          If they could afford a temp to come in to replace you at any time, they'd just pay that amount of money to an employee in the first place and have someone better than you working there already.

          • AustriaBargain on 19/03/2023 - 15:23
            -1

            @infinite: Right, but what happens when that employee gets sick for two weeks? Or needs to attend their own wedding in Thailand for two days? Do you then formally hire an employee just for two days or two weeks, then fire them when your regular employee is back?

            • infinite on 19/03/2023 - 17:08

              @AustriaBargain: You'd go on paid or unpaid leave.

              • OZKap on 19/03/2023 - 18:10

                @infinite: Yes, obviously, but what happens to the work the employee was scheduled to do, that can't just wait the two weeks til they've recovered?

                • infinite on 19/03/2023 - 19:58

                  @OZKap: Depends on how important the work is.

                  If you and your work are of no importance, it'll still be waiting for you when you get back.

      • macrocephalic on 20/03/2023 - 11:45

        I don't think I've ever worked anywhere that hires temps. Temps are generally only good for the most basic reception/mail room/data entry type jobs.

    • Nebargains on 19/03/2023 - 20:27
      +3

      So impractical in reality. Bring in a temp, spend time training them, get maybe a couple days of competent work out of them and then person come back from leave.

      I've never seen a company hire a temp to fill in for someone on leave unless they were going to be absent for like 3 months or longer.

      • AustriaBargain on 19/03/2023 - 20:52

        Some things like making coffees or mopping floors isn't rocket science. It's not like you need to spend weeks training someone on your custom algorithms or anything.

    • kaleidoscope on 20/03/2023 - 15:18

      You shouldn't have to cover someone else's work, it's not your fault if someone else's role can't be filled.

      Good luck with that attitude when working in small companies.

      • AustriaBargain on 20/03/2023 - 15:22

        I contract and subcontract. Though really I do work above and beyond the contract to impress, mostly because it's easier to do it myself than leave it not done, so I guess I would as a regular employee too.

    • CalmLemons on 20/03/2023 - 20:32

      Yeah the ones who think they can actually afford to access temp agencies normally go bankrupt.

      It's a small business, you grind it through.

      • AustriaBargain on 20/03/2023 - 21:16

        I find the ones that value their employees enough to hire temp workers stay in business for decades and retain employees for much longer. It actually is bad for employees because instead of changing jobs and upskilling they stay doing the same thing for too long because they are happy with the work environment. Though money isn't everything, sometimes a reliable job with a good work culture is more valuable.

        It amazes me how different workplaces are. I've seen a lot while dealing with clients and some have relaxed employees working at a gentle pace, others have employees rushing and sweating. I'm sure fast paced can work well, thinking like trading floors or Ramsey Kitchen Nightmare, but it's not the only option to get things done.

        • CalmLemons on 23/03/2023 - 20:38

          Depends on the individual in the end. I worked at really chill places and everyone was so slow I couldn't stand it and couldn't last most days because you would almost fall asleep.

          I like to be on my toes to run through the day.

          • AustriaBargain on 23/03/2023 - 20:43

            @CalmLemons: I remember when I was younger and worked in a Dominos it was fast paced and sure some people seemed to enjoy the energy, but also stressed everyone out. There were frequent meltdowns and arguments. Seems like a whole lot of fuss over fast food. And I can't see adults tolerating those conditions. Teens may thrive on it, but most adults have too much self respect. Serious kitchens and offices that are generating serious money might be different, there's higher ideals or payoffs at stake. But imo your average office should not be 24/7 "fast paced". Should be more relaxed atmosphere. Everyone should know what they are doing and feel confident they have more than enough time to do it right.

    • drfuzzy on 22/03/2023 - 02:41

      What do you mean "You shouldn't have to cover someone else's work"?
      Have you never worked in corporate Australia?

      • AustriaBargain on 22/03/2023 - 04:38

        Corporate Australia, no. I've done office work and I know there's loafers, but if they are loafing from the start then it's not really covering for them, you're just doing your original role which might mean letting them loaf.

        • drfuzzy on 22/03/2023 - 20:03

          Maybe we are talking about different things.
          You need to cover your colleagues when they are on leave and sick.
          Companies don't bring in temps to cover annual leave - unless there is something quite wrong with the business.

          • Some Human on 23/03/2023 - 01:56

            @drfuzzy: I need to cover my colleagues even when they’re there.

  • Stalker on 17/03/2023 - 19:07
    +13

    I wouldn't recommend quitting until you have something else lined up, but you should be trying pretty hard to find something else by the sounds of it. Good luck!

  • pharkurnell on 17/03/2023 - 19:21

    e I start to see the downside of working in the small business, ie, lacking employee well-being and care, lacking support for work, worst of all, the workload is enormously high and everyday is a struggle.

    thats no different in big business…. been teh way since i left school in the 80s

  • ausdday on 17/03/2023 - 19:47
    +3

    Jim Chalmers said you are not productive enough. Now you have vented, go back to work.

  • Baysew on 17/03/2023 - 19:48
    +2

    Was this the job that was closest to home or the one that paid more?

  • Iwantthebestprice on 17/03/2023 - 20:35
    +4

    I worked in a small business and got paid very well, but same as you it was a complete nightmare. I did go back and forth on the whole leaving a very well paying job got a less paying corporate job, but after going back into corporate I will never look back. Yes I get paid a good $40,000 less but omg I have my life back, my weekends and finish at 5 this would never happen in a small company where I was basically in charge of everything, releases, code review, UAT and PROD reviews so my advice is if your time is more valuable then your brain and time then leave and go to corporate and you will never look back!

    • Unacceptable on 17/03/2023 - 20:43
      +1

      In my previous job in global company (not IT), I had WFH whenever I wanted and just needed to finish my job on time and no one bothered me including my boss. I had heaps of time to look for deals in ozb but now I totally forget about the existence of ozb at work.

      • Iwantthebestprice on 17/03/2023 - 20:46
        +1

        This 100%! In a small business I worked non stop from 8 to 5 and most days much longer, shopping, messages, weekends, messages and meetings; this all stopped once I went back to corporate. I do miss some things about small business but not enough to outweigh the work life balance that corporations offer. So my suggestion is go to corporate. If you are in IT like I was (implementation manager) you will value corporate over small businesss any day

      • cookie2 on 17/03/2023 - 21:21
        +2

        What a horrible existence. In a seriousness though, i get it. Find something else asap. Actually I don't think you need us telling you this.

      • borrisz0r on 19/03/2023 - 19:19
        +6

        Maybe this is why you were made redundant?

  • SF3 on 17/03/2023 - 21:02
    +6

    Life is about ups and downs, without the downs, there won't be the ups.

  • SF3 on 17/03/2023 - 21:04
    +3

    So I got made redundant last December
    Imagine in large orgs, you only need to focus on your job in your team

    plausible reason with last year's redundancy.

  • star-ggg on 17/03/2023 - 22:01
    +1

    I had the exact same experience working for a small business. I would never go back to a small business unless I had a decent equity package. Why deal with the stress of having to do multiple jobs and lack of advancement opportunities unless there's potential for a big payoff.

    Quit, take a short break and refocus on looking for a corporate job.

  • Ghost47 on 17/03/2023 - 22:15
    +2

    lacking employee well-being and care, lacking support for work, worst of all, the workload is enormously high and everyday is a struggle.

    I wouldn't say this is exclusive to smaller organisations, I've worked for large Australian household corporations and this sort of thing really just depends on the actual department you're in I think. Although IMO these days companies just want to milk more and more out of their employees. From what I've heard and seen though working in councils and government is very cruisy. If you want an easy job try that?

    Unfortunately the job market now doesn't look as good as last year.

    Doesn't stop you from trying for the jobs that are being advertised anyway.

    I've worked in a start up before and know what you're feeling (not saying all start ups are bad). You seem to be referring to a small business, but at a start up (or any small business really), I'd say generally most people are expected to wear multiple hats. For example the marketing manager would be expected to write copy, create ads, design the website, attend events, look for partnerships etc. It's only when the start up moves into the scale-up phase that people should start to specialise in certain roles as the company grows and hires more people.

    • Jolakot on 18/03/2023 - 00:21
      +1

      Govt jobs are cruisy but pay (profanity)-all, rarely worth it

      • Ghost47 on 18/03/2023 - 13:06
        +2

        Hmm the median for an EL1 in 2021 was $139k.. that seems pretty decent if the job is cruisy?

        • virhlpool on 19/03/2023 - 14:51
          -1

          Isn't it a decent/ good pay even if the job isn't cruisy? What would that person get in the private sector anyway?

          • Ghost47 on 19/03/2023 - 15:09
            +1

            @virhlpool: Of course, but the main point is that the job is cruisy. What would you prefer; a job that pays $139k where you only work 8 hours a day max, or a job that pays $139k but you are often working 8.5 - 9 hours a day and sometimes have to work on weekends?

            I don’t know what a person would get in the private sector at that level, it would probably depend on the industry.

        • Jolakot on 19/03/2023 - 23:45
          +1

          $139k seems very high, where did you get that from?

          It's typically $100k-$120k, which is less than you could make elsewhere given it's an executive position

          • Ghost47 on 20/03/2023 - 00:02

            @Jolakot: Got it from this link for total renumeration packages.

            But yeah this page says $119k.

            What is an "executive" position in gov?

            • Jolakot on 20/03/2023 - 11:10

              @Ghost47: Ah ok, that's including super and other benefits, I was just talking about base salary

              "Executive" in government just means that it's your neck on the line for whatever you're responsible for. At EL1 you're the middle-man between leadership and the managers/employees below you for whatever area. For example I know an EL1 who is the head person for all the Centrelink/Medicare offices in a region, they have to manage day-to-day issues at all of those offices while also dealing with top-down strategic bullshit, so basically a regional manager who has to filter what shit flows downhill

              Meanwhile the same person in my company is on around $180k base, and they only have ~60 people below them

              • greatlamp on 20/03/2023 - 18:27

                @Jolakot: And then there are EL1s who work in a team of 5 people and have 0 direct reports.

                • Jolakot on 20/03/2023 - 19:30

                  @greatlamp: You're not wrong, it's hard to get and even harder to lose, suppose that's the Peter principle in action

                  Still, that same EL1 in a team of 5 people with 0 direct reports would be earning ~30% as a useless manager in a large private company, lord knows I've seen enough people on double my wage with half the responsibilities in corporate jobs

          • Assburg on 20/03/2023 - 00:03

            @Jolakot: Never seen an EL1 make an executive decision

            • Jolakot on 20/03/2023 - 19:31

              @Assburg: EL literally stands for Executive Level

              • Assburg on 20/03/2023 - 23:55
                +1

                @Jolakot: Yes but…APS stands for Australian public service and not many of them actually provide a service.

                Sometimes people call themselves things they're not. In the case of EL1s and 2s, the most executive decision they seem to make is to contract a consultancy to advise them on how they should make their executive decisions.

                It's like how DFAT say they're one of the world's premier foreign relations departments but almost all of our relationships in the near region seem to have fallen apart.

  • kiwiyonip on 17/03/2023 - 22:21
    +1

    Hey OP, I had the same feeling when I got the job in 3 days (from application to interview and signing), last year. Little did I know it was too stressful with high expectations, so I quit in that same week, it was a 6-figure salary, no redundancy money, unlike you. Unemployed for 2 months, at least I got out of there.

    So quit if you must, you have money anyway. For your peace of mind, just find work after quitting. No amount of salary can help with well-being.

    But on the bright side, you have a job, that's a blessing on itself, so many people are jobless at the moment. Just hold on for a bit, maybe? Who knows, the job might grow on you.

    • virhlpool on 19/03/2023 - 14:52
      +1

      But on the bright side, you have a job, that's a blessing on itself, so many people are jobless at the moment.

      Really? I hear the latest unemployment data were very strong across Australia. One of the lowest unemployment rate the country has seen in years.

      • kiwiyonip on 19/03/2023 - 18:58
        -2

        Sure man, those companies shutting down are all executive officers (CEO, president, etc), no staff to make redundant, so pretty much no unemployed. Right.

  • USER DC on 17/03/2023 - 22:38
    +2

    No one likes working, Only like getting money.

    • MS Paint on 17/03/2023 - 23:04

      I like working and I love my job.

      But I only work 2 days a week so that's probably why.

    • Some Human on 18/03/2023 - 03:07
      +2

      I like going to work. My best friend is there.

  • TheMindsetTraveller on 17/03/2023 - 23:31

    Find a job that you love, and the money flows to you. Chase the money and the money runs away faster.

    Dont know who said that but probably Tom Bilyeu.

  • tabitha731 on 18/03/2023 - 08:01
    +3

    This is exactly why i will never work for a small company or a company that isn’t in the city. Lack of accountability on management’s part to help current staff with being able to cope with workloads when staff go on leave. Also smaller companies are usually favoured by mums & dads coz they can quickly leave work to attend “family emergencies”. If it’s tolerable, stick out the job, while u frantically look for another one. Yes the job market isnt as good as it was last year, but just focus on the money coming in. When looking for your next job, remember not to feel desperate to get the job, or else u end up in the situation ur in at the moment.

    • kerfuffle on 18/03/2023 - 08:20
      +2

      i will never work for a small company or a company that isn’t in the city

      So you won’t work for Microsoft for example, who aren’t in the city?

    • Unacceptable on 18/03/2023 - 10:08

      smaller companies are usually favoured by mums & dads coz they can quickly leave work to attend “family emergencies”

      This is true.. hahaha

    • p1 ama on 20/03/2023 - 00:53
      +1

      Also smaller companies are usually favoured by mums & dads coz they can quickly leave work to attend “family emergencies”.

      Is there actually any evidence for this?

  • CoreArchitect on 18/03/2023 - 08:34
    -1

    Some of you are lazy and spoiled AF. There is a key advantage working for a smaller firm - that but if you haven't been able to figure it out yourself that's bad luck.

    The reason why you can't figure it out is also why you were deemed redundant.

    • StingyBritches on 18/03/2023 - 08:43
      +2

      ?😳

    • MS Paint on 18/03/2023 - 08:44
      +8

      Ok. My room temperature IQ doesn't know this secret key advantage. Can you please elaborate.

      • realjw on 20/03/2023 - 12:48
        +3

        Worked in a small company for a like 5 years, I'm assuming he's referring to the fact that you get to do more stuff or not confined to your job roles in a small company? Worked in two labs:

        1. Small company: routine QC/QA work, R&D job, modifying formulations and batch documents, managed to also create my own products and see it being manufactured in the company (satisfying af) even though the workplace politics sucked.

        2. Big company: routine QC/QA work, the people still sucked though less politics.

        I got made redundant from the small company and went to the big company. I was so bored and felt like going nowhere in the company, especially as I heard my colleagues have been in the same job role (same as mine too) for +10 years and hasn't been given more complex work. I imagine recruiters would also value the resume I had from the small company, because I literally did mindless boring job for the big company. I eventually switched jobs again. I currently am in a huge company rn but at least it's a completely different industry so I'm learning a lot of new stuff.

  • Sinnerator on 18/03/2023 - 09:19
    +1

    Only you can gauge your mental health, do you need to leave now, or do you just need to acclimatise, or find other job first ?

  • Perthminx on 18/03/2023 - 09:22
    +5

    Big businesses aren’t always better
    I’ve worked for the Health Department and I cried almost every day for three months. Don’t underestimate how depressing it is being one of thousands who are identified by number and oodles of red tape that leave you wanting to scream

    If you’re unhappy, leave. There’s plenty of jobs out there at the moment. Your well-being is always number one IMO

    • Ghost47 on 18/03/2023 - 13:03

      Health Department

      red tape

      Doesn't government and red tape go hand-in-hand though?

      • Perthminx on 18/03/2023 - 13:46

        They do.
        My current employer isn’t government but also has lots of red tape

    • McFly on 19/03/2023 - 22:28
      +3

      I’ve worked for the Health Department and I cried almost every day

      That can't be good for your health (department.)

  • jrvb42 on 18/03/2023 - 09:41

    Find a new job first. Always. Also, if it's a new job, how long are you going to live on a redundancy, and you're quitting so there will be no redundancy payment anyways.

  • 2esc on 18/03/2023 - 10:03
    +4

    Work responsibilities always higher in small businesses multi skilled, more responsibilities, initiative needed quite often

    It was a huge shock to me going from a small business to a larger company they just cruise along no rush, dont care someone else's responsibility even getting bonuses available for doing half a job.

    Some brag about their bonuses thinking its because of them and its more to do with systems in place

    Stick at it until you find another job who knows you might actually learn something in the mean time.

  • GourmetFoodie on 18/03/2023 - 10:41

    If your main issue is workload then talk to your boss / the business owner. Tell him/her you love the job but you are feeling so overwhelmed by the workload and it’s making you seriously re-consider whether you’re the right fit for the job.

    If they like you and want to keep you then they may be able to make some changes. That’s the positive of a small business in that it’s easier for change to occur as less bureaucracy. If he/she says “suck it up” then it’s time to leave.

    Being honest won’t affect any of your entitlements assuming you are passed the trial period. If you resign you still get your benefits or if they make you redundant you still get your benefits.

  • b0rnwithabeard on 18/03/2023 - 12:55
    +3

    probation periods are not just for the employer

  • Nillionaire on 19/03/2023 - 01:48
    -7

    Talk to your boss about workload, if they tell you to suck it up and that's just how it is, leave immediately. Unless you are dead broke and have other people you need to financially support, leave immediately. You do not have to find a new job before you leave. I wouldn't listen to the boomers, gen x, and millennials telling you to find a new job first. Gen Z doesn't operate like that. We prioritize our wellbeing first. We don't [profanity] up our life with the workloads they give us. They [profanity] up their company if they don't adapt to us. Embrace the entitlement. Value yourself.

    • Unacceptable on 19/03/2023 - 10:30
      +1

      Envy your youth Gen z!

    • lostgoat on 19/03/2023 - 15:03
      +2

      Cool . Great attitude. I reckon the other generations can enjoy gen z $$$ especially from rent on cruises and over seas holidays to prioritize our wellbeing first .

    • BartholemewH on 19/03/2023 - 21:07
      +3

      Username checks out!

    • RADICALIST on 20/03/2023 - 01:59

      Cute

    • UFO on 21/03/2023 - 16:47
      +2

      @ Nillionaire

      I hope that "embrace the entitlement" attitude works out well for you as you get older and understand what real priorities mean.

      I greatly encourage you to take a photo of the post you've made…. and look back on it in the future ;). Hopefully by then you'll have learned what life is all about. Sunshine and moonbeam wishful thinking doesn't pay the bills. Name definitely checks out!

  • skillet on 19/03/2023 - 14:12
    -2

    This is why small business never grow.

    • infinite on 19/03/2023 - 14:57
      +1

      The opposite is true.

      SMB's were the fastest growing businesses in Australia for both 2021 and 2022. The big end of town had growth too, but a a rate of about 1.5% as opposed to the whopping 7% by SMB's.

      • skillet on 20/03/2023 - 14:30

        What I meant was how the OP was treated at his company. Small businesses operating this way never grow because the 'management' don't care about growing.

        • infinite on 20/03/2023 - 21:47
          -1

          They grow specifically because they can and do swiftly replace lazy workers like OP.

          • CoreArchitect on 23/03/2023 - 16:29

            @infinite: I highly agree - sure there is more churn in small businesses, but it just means you can react quicker. In corporate Australia, your entire team (not just you) can be undone because someone you never met has rolled the dice. And you are so far removed from them, that you and your team are just an expense line in a spreadsheet. They don't know who you are, OR what you do. This is not the case with small businesses, you can still get smacked about - but you have ALOT more control over your destiny - it's simple as that!

    • idonotknowwhy on 20/03/2023 - 11:42
      +2

      If small businesses never grew, we'd never had big businesses

  • Thinkswithelbow on 19/03/2023 - 14:56
    +1

    If you have no financial commitments…fine leave but if you have rent or a mortgage or dependants find something else asap and suck it up until you do.

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