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Xiaomi AX9000 Wi-Fi 6 Tri-Band Wireless Router $259 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ PCByte

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Xiaomi AX9000 Wi-Fi 6 Tri-Band Wireless Router $259 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ PCByte
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Lmandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 11:41 pcbyte.com.au (3274 clicks)
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Cheaper price ever. Absolute beast of a router. Product title says dual band, but it is actually tri band (2.4GHz, 5GHz-1 and 5GHz-2).

Details:
12 independent signal amplifiers
4K QAM + 160 MHz Wi-Fi 6
2.5Gbps Ethernet port
Processor: Qualcomm® IPQ8072 quad-core A53 2.2GHz CPU
Network Processing unit: Dual core 1.7GHz NPU
Memory: 1GB
2.4G Wi-Fi: 4×4 (supports up to IEEE 802.11ax protocol, the theoretical maximum rate is 1148Mbps)
5GHz-1 Wi-Fi: 4×4 (supports up to IEEE 802.11ax protocol, the theoretical maximum rate is 4804Mbps)
5GHz-2 Wi-Fi: 4×4 (supports up to IEEE 802.11ax protocol, theoretical maximum rate is 2402Mbps)
Antennas: External high gain antenna + internal AIoT antenna
Heat Dissipation: Active cooling
Total Ports:
~1G/2.5Gbps adaptive WAN/LAN port (Auto MDI/MDIX) ×1
~1Gbps adaptive WAN/LAN port (Auto MDI/MDIX) ×1
~1Gbps adaptive LAN ports (Auto MDI/MDIX)" ×3
USB 3.0 Port: ×1
Mesh Networking Button: ×1

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  • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 11:45
    +5

    Note: there is a newly released Xiaomi 10000, but it's almost 2.5 times the price from Ali Express.

    • Ryanmyo on 26/02/2023 - 21:56
      +1

      ….china will grow larger.

  • jeppetto367 on 25/02/2023 - 11:47
    +9

    I used a Xiaomi AX6000 router and can't fault it, it's been amazing. Super long range and has around 30 wireless devices connected in my apartment without issue.

    • jonnoyeo on 25/02/2023 - 11:57
      +3

      Have the same router as you, standalone have had no issues but tried to mesh extend it with another xiaomi router, and ran into issues with the wifi mesh….

      • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 12:02

        What issues did you have?

        • jonnoyeo on 25/02/2023 - 12:59
          +2

          WIFI devices kept dropping then reconnecting, signal strength significantly improved, but the drop outs made it unusable

          • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 13:14
            -1

            @jonnoyeo: Xiaomis mesh works on 2.4ghz and that's where if you are looking for a higher speed, it tends to drop.

            I wasn't able to find a way to run mesh on 5ghz, unless they have changed now.

            • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 13:50
              +1

              @abs898: The AX9000 runs wireless mesh on 5GHz band. Dunno about previous models though

              • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 14:19

                @mandelbrot: I meant router to router connection on Ax6000 to AX3600 was on 2.4ghz which affected the speed between them even through the end device is connected on 5ghz.

                • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 14:33
                  +2

                  @abs898: Yep. Router to router connection is the backhaul. You can have wired backhaul (connected via ethernet cables) or wireless backhaul. The wireless backhaul on the AX9000 is on the 5GHz band, not 2.4GHz. Not sure about AX6000 and AX3600 though

                  • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 15:07

                    @mandelbrot: Good to know, backhaul on my older one was definitely on 2.4, unless a more recent firmware changed that.

                  • Torzz on 26/02/2023 - 21:54

                    @mandelbrot: Is it triband with dedicated channel for wireless backhaul?

                    • mandelbrot on 26/02/2023 - 22:01

                      @Torzz: Apparently so.

                      "Unfortunately, we just have the one unit, so we can't really test this out, but it is interesting to note that the official specs page claims an exclusive 4,804 Mbps, 4x4 160MHz band is used for the backhaul communication between units in the mesh, which leaves the throughput to actual other devices exactly the same."

                      https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_router_ax9000_review-amp-50…

                      Not sure how that works though, cos the specs and reviews say one 5Ghz band is dedicated to gaming and the other 5GHz band is dedicated to entertainment 🤷‍♂️

            • jonnoyeo on 25/02/2023 - 13:50
              -1

              @abs898: That's odd though, because, i noticed it most on my nvidia shield (which is only on 5GHz) - constant drop outs. Once i removed the mesh node it was fine. Also noticed it on my phone (only 5GHz as well), but not as much, presume due to it defaulting to mobile network maybe.

              I only have devices which NEED to be on 2.4GHz, on, 2.4GHz, (mostly smart home stuff).

              • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 14:19

                @jonnoyeo: Yes you can connect your devices at 5ghz, however router to router is at 2.4GHZ.
                Lol I am not saying 5ghz will stop working.

                • jonnoyeo on 25/02/2023 - 15:56

                  @abs898: Oh i follow. Backhaul is 2.4ghz.

                  Still doesn't explain my dropout issues though i guess

          • [Deactivated] on 25/02/2023 - 22:51

            @jonnoyeo: I had the same kind of problem. Turns out the microwave interferes with the 2.4Ghz connected devices and they drop connection until the microwave stops! Can't really fix this unless I get another microwave but pretty easy to live with now I know what the problem was

        • Domingo on 25/02/2023 - 12:13
          +16

          Wi-Fi mesh is not a flawed concept. Some implementations might be, but the concept is not.

        • idonotknowwhy on 25/02/2023 - 16:41
          +1

          When you are already connected to one and move closer to the other one, it would likely be still connected to the older weaker signal, changing over isn't as seamless either.

          This part is often correct. It's not a problem with the mesh concept, just the implementation on cheap shit like tp-link

        • Niceye on 26/02/2023 - 10:03
          +2

          Mesh networking is NOT a flawed connect but WiFi mesh is mostly used as a marketing term. WiFi mesh has nothing to do with roaming and can be st as good or just as bad as if you are having multiple APs with the same SSIDs. If the APs support fast/smart roaming (wired or wireless backhaul), you will get good roaming regardless of mesh or just having APs with same SSID, but if some do not, you will not get good/fast roaming at all. If you have ever roamed on your phone in a large hotel or airport or conference center and noticed how good it is then you already have experienced this without mesh.

          Secondly, "mesh" protocol implementation can only be in the AP/router and WiFi clients such as your phone may have different implementation as to let go of the weaker signal or to hang on to the far away AP. This will NOT be controlled by AP, depending on the active connections it is having, as disconnecting from one and connecting to the other (or aggressive handover) is not ideal for user experience when buffering a video or downloading something.

          So I don't know why @Jimbuscus got so many negs as for me WiFi mesh is mostly a marketing term used to indicate broader coverage than reliable or fast connection to the user. Having said that there are great implementations such as Azus ZenWiFi XT8 which would work the same if enable mesh capabilities or not.

          Cheers

      • warrenlui on 25/02/2023 - 12:20

        I have the AX6000 and trying to get the WIFI scheduler to work without any luck (I set the time and it will not switch off). Would this have anything to do with the region settings? It worked fine on the AX1800 which was the local model.

        • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 12:32

          I've read there's different options if you use the web browser login vs the app. Try both?

          • warrenlui on 25/02/2023 - 13:50
            +1

            @mandelbrot: thanks! yes im using the app. There is a health setting where you scedule when it turns off. I have it set but the router wont turn off. Since its the chinese model not sure if its a issue with the software.

            The AX1800 I have is an australian local model and works fine.

    • Sammyboy on 25/02/2023 - 13:15
      +3

      So temping. Have 3 ax6000 in mesh setup. works flawlessly. But this price is amazing…so tempting

      • SydStrand on 25/02/2023 - 14:46
        +1

        At that price, why not just go all Unifi with dedicated APs?

        • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 20:47

          For around the same price range, I looked at the option of 2 Unifi U6-Pro APs. Apart from not wanting to hard wire the unifi's into my ceiling, it look like from the specs and reviews that the AX9000 routers would perform better. Could be wrong though…

      • AussieGargain on 25/02/2023 - 15:19
        +1

        Similar here. 3 ax3600s. I’ll wait for ax10000.

        • abadacus on 26/02/2023 - 07:33

          In your case, what's the reason for considering upgrading? Are you maxing out your WLAN speeds?

          • AussieGargain on 26/02/2023 - 09:07
            +1

            @abadacus: No, ax3600 WLAN couldn’t handle my 1000Mbps NBN. The main router only does 650Mbps and the other 2 do 400ish Mbps. I need the new one as main to fully utilise my nbn.

            • mandelbrot on 26/02/2023 - 09:55

              @AussieGargain: That's a bit concerning in the WLAN speed. Something isn't right there. I'm upgrading my current Deco mesh system cos it's not maximising my 1gig speed, both in WLAN and wireless. I replaced the main router with an old Asus, which is now providing close to 1gig down for wired devices… And looking for these ax9000 to maximise the wireless connections.

              • AussieGargain on 26/02/2023 - 10:14

                @mandelbrot: Nothing to be concerned. Wired for 1Gpbs is fine, it’s wireless that ax3600 couldn’t handle. All other wireless routers in that range of competition and that generation are all similar. Depending what deco mesh you got, I doubt e.g ac1200 would max out the speed. Note that ax3600’s 3600mbps is the sum of all channels including middle antenna for Xiaomi devices. $400 for 3 routers is a bargain to me and fit for purpose. I just need expanding my mesh with 1 strong main router. All other areas at my place don’t need top speed.

                • mandelbrot on 26/02/2023 - 16:00

                  @AussieGargain: What's your speedtest if you are right next to a AP?
                  I'm using a tiny gl.inet ax3000 travel router in the interim and regularly pulls down 850-900mbps whilst next to it. 5m away and through a solid single brick wall I'm getting 750mps.

                  I'm hoping to get at least that from 2 AX9000 mesh, but throughout my whole house.

    • drfuzzy on 25/02/2023 - 13:33
      +1

      Have you found a way to upgrade off Chinese firmware to English? The Chinese is very annoying.

      • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 15:09

        I don't think there is an English version for ax6000. There is an English version app someone made but that's it.

      • RickyJ on 25/02/2023 - 15:16

        There is a Global ROM available from Xiaomi. I use the Chinese ROM and just get my browser to translate.

      • aec on 25/02/2023 - 20:12
        -6

        easy fix: dont buy it, if you think Chinese is very annoying.

      • Prodev3r on 26/02/2023 - 09:30

        You will halve the WiFi range if there was a way.

        The AX3600 is the same as the AX6000. The only difference seems to be the 2.5g WAN port. Having used both, havent seen any other difference.

        Used the AX9000 with the global firmware. WiFi is worse than the AX3600/6000. Am hoping it sell it on FB, only used a day and was disappointed

    • Korban Dallas on 25/02/2023 - 15:41

      I can connect like 500m down the road it's insane.

      Firmware is a bit crappy though. Also a bug for some reason I was only getting half internet speed but my modem was getting full speed. After a reset it worked again.

  • nfr on 25/02/2023 - 11:58
    +3

    I wish Asus routers were this cheap.

    • Daabido on 25/02/2023 - 12:04
      +18

      Asus probably pay for the appropriate patents.

      Looks good though, as long as it doesn't phone home to China.

      • PainToad on 25/02/2023 - 13:09
        +14

        long as it doesn't phone home to China.

        You’re dreaming.

        • Grish on 25/02/2023 - 15:22

          I would actually be surprised if it did, I know everyone assumes it does, but then no one would buy it right?

          • Xizor on 25/02/2023 - 15:51
            +4

            @Grish: Overwhelming majority of people are oblivious, whether it does or does not is beside the point unless its blatantly in their face. As for whether it does is not really the point, the fact is any chinese owned company must do as the motherland requires when it requires (or else). The potential is always there. China has coming on 3 decades now by far the most epic state backed intellectual property theft the world has ever known, and much of that came from just hoovering up all and any data they could. It's as blatant as it is brilliant, yet still most people dont get it. We are the ever so hungry consumers all too willing to turn a blind eye… myself included sometimes.

      • jaydee4 on 25/02/2023 - 15:38
        +3

        Doesn't every app on your phone calls home? Executable file on your pc/laptop? Your OS?

        • idonotknowwhy on 25/02/2023 - 17:10
          +1

          Depends on your OS, but mostly yeah

  • Tyler Kwok on 25/02/2023 - 11:58

    Noob question: can it use merlin?

    • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 12:26
      +2

      Isn't Merlin specific to Asus routers?

      • Tyler Kwok on 25/02/2023 - 12:31
        +3

        Ah ic tks, im a noob

    • CrawlB4uBall on 25/02/2023 - 12:36
      +5

      No Merlin but looks like you could put Openwrt on it and go from there. Bit more convoluted though

      https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/xiaomi/xiaomi_ax9000

      • Tyler Kwok on 25/02/2023 - 12:46

        Tks, i googled to see only the wrt firmware, was hoping that i haven't googled hard enough.

        Curious how good is the wrt one thos?

        • CrawlB4uBall on 25/02/2023 - 14:38
          +3

          It's fairly well proven to be effective, just might be a bit difficult for a self proclaimed n00b. Heaps of documentation and support in forums though. Have a go son!

        • mathew42 on 25/02/2023 - 14:40
          +2

          OpenWrt is as good if not better.

  • bart2 on 25/02/2023 - 12:04

    I read somewhere that the global version has limited wifi strength or limited bands and the chinese version doesnt.

    • Daabido on 25/02/2023 - 12:08

      If so, it would down to radiation limits legislated by different countries.

    • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 12:12
      +1

      Would like to hear if anyone has bought this from PCByte and what version they got (and if it's been limited at all).

    • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 12:52
      +1

      Yes but easy to bypass that by changing firmware.

  • Ulysses31 on 25/02/2023 - 12:05
    +12

    Landmine edition

  • gakko on 25/02/2023 - 12:08
    -6

    Mm Chinese networking hardware, no thanks. Would i rather America spies on me through their brands? Yes i would rather.

    • Grish on 25/02/2023 - 15:25
      +1

      Take a look at the made in China sticker on the very modem/router you used to post that message on!

      • idonotknowwhy on 25/02/2023 - 17:11

        Yep, and the bottom of your laptop (even Apple)

      • gakko on 25/02/2023 - 22:56
        +4

        Yeah for sure. The difference is that there's at least a probability that those companies qa their gear for unwanted software. Chinese companies are simply complicit.

  • dfg555 on 25/02/2023 - 12:08

    does this even have failover function?

  • hambuger on 25/02/2023 - 12:23

    This is tempting but my connection is still going to drop out all the time anyway

  • mrtee on 25/02/2023 - 12:33
    +1

    Can I trust a Chinese router with my internet traffic?

    • asuka1204 on 25/02/2023 - 12:41

      MSS has no interest in investigating what you're doing on the internet.

    • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 12:41
      -4

      Can you trust an American router with your internet traffic?

      • Binchicken22 on 25/02/2023 - 12:47
        +5

        Yes, America doesn't have a social credit system… Yet.

        • terrys on 25/02/2023 - 13:13
          +1

          They have several, including one that grew from some freshmen deciding they wanted a group method of perving on the local women and girls. It's just that they are privatised therefore good, rather than the commy-pinko Wan-world variety..

    • Franck P on 25/02/2023 - 12:48
      +4

      I have an adgaurd device Gl-iNet GL-MT2500 between my modem and this router. You could choose to block anything that you don't want the AX9000 to connect to.

    • mathew42 on 25/02/2023 - 14:48
      +4

      No, but then I don't trust the Americans or the Russians or the …

      If was to upgrade my AX3600 to this, the first step would be to install AX9000 OpenWrt Firmware before connecting to my network.

  • voldemort on 25/02/2023 - 12:35

    Should I go with this or Orbi / Nest Pro 3 point set up?

    • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 13:22
      +1

      I opted for go for 2 of these in mesh over a 3 point wifi 6e mesh. The hardware and functionality on these routers is normally found on ones double/triple the price.

  • Devaust on 25/02/2023 - 12:48

    Looking to upgrade to a WiFi6 router and this looks pretty good bang for your buck. Can someone who brought this please advise how stable are the dual 5Ghz networks? I have 250/25 NBN FTTP so speed bottleneck won’t really be an issue even if I upgraded to 1000/100 etc.

    My issue is my neighbour seems to run an IT business out of his house and I suspect it’s causing most of my wifi interference issues especially over 2.4Ghz bands.

    We live in a house with standard suburban setup plenty of yard space between houses. Yet I still have to switch channels every few weeks.

    I’m looking to migrate all of our newer 5Ghz capable household devices onto the dual 5Ghz network with routers such as this one so appreciate any insight.

    Cheers

    • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 12:53
      +3

      Get this router and run it on Chinese firmware, it will cause issues for your neighbour.

      I am on private fibre and get around 800/600 on my AX6000

    • RowanLucas on 25/02/2023 - 13:04
      +1

      Consider wifi6e routers, guarantee u no interference with its 6ghz band

      • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 13:15

        Won't it be the same concept? No I referenced until more people get 6e and area gets crowded?

      • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 13:16

        I've read from some testing of 6e routers, is you have to be really close to the router to utilise the 6GHz band, otherwise devices just connects to the 5GHz band.

        • abs898 on 25/02/2023 - 15:10

          The higher GHz it is, shorter the range is

    • Franck P on 25/02/2023 - 13:07
      +3

      I have 3 of these running in mesh mode. 1 running with wired backhaul, the other wireless backhaul. The wireless backhaul mesh node has almost the same speed as the wired backhaul mesh router.

      • mandelbrot on 25/02/2023 - 14:04

        Good to know. I'm planning on running 2 via wired backhaul

      • Pub Envelope on 26/02/2023 - 00:16

        Noob here. What is backhaul?

        • Currynuts on 26/02/2023 - 07:58

          Effectively just referring to the transportation method for data to another network device. Major two being wired backhaul (connection via ethernet cabling) and wireless backhaul (connection via WiFi)

    • PoopMyPants on 26/02/2023 - 15:54

      The neighbours router is probably switching bands automatically based on external conditions. I suggest moving to 5 ghz and only enabling it on an empty DFS spectrum signal. I don’t suggest enabling a dual 5ghz network as most devices will default to one network (at around channel 50 which tends to be quite busy) and leave the other one empty (the DFU channel). If available, you can change your 2.4Ghz network to use an 80mhz bandwidth too.

      I’m not overly familiar with your situation though so you should make the final decision.

  • ozbargain-pashim on 25/02/2023 - 13:10
    +2

    does this have OpenWRT support?

  • dunnoz on 25/02/2023 - 13:15

    Anyone know if wireguard /openvpn client can be setup on the stock firmware?

  • CMH on 25/02/2023 - 13:22
    +5

    Picked one up. Lets see if CCP likes my adult content selection…

    • Sammyboy on 25/02/2023 - 13:27
      +1

      So long as its not a certain colour they probably will have no objection lol

      • CMH on 25/02/2023 - 13:53

        Pretty sure this router only comes in black.

        /s

  • ShrewdBargin on 25/02/2023 - 13:50
    -3

    No deal. Paying for the priv of being spied on

    • iratepirate on 25/02/2023 - 14:00
      +2

      Hate to tell you, you're going to be spied on no matter what… it's just a matter of if you want to CC. the CCP in as well.

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