Similar to the recent DigiDirect deal which has now expired. I've seen people discussing getting Sony to price match to take advantage of cashback apps, but I haven't looked too hard into this yet.
Also includes 15% off all Sony lenses when you buy a body.
Trying to talk myself out of buying this. Great camera at a decent price.
Trying to talk myself out of buying this.
Nah, go on, it is good for the economy
actually in times of inflation we should spend less. the less we spend, the quicker we'll get out of this inflation
explain like i'm an idiot
Less money in the economy, the further prices will go down.
inflation is when demand > supply
reduce demand = lower inflation
"hey my pancakes are selling like hotcakes I'll raise the prices up since people will still buy it even with the higher prices"
"hey, no ones buying my pancakes, I should lower the price so people will be enticed to buy them"
We've printed trillions of dollars since covid. Inflation is primarily because of money printing and economic policy.
Tell me you don't know anything about inflation without telling me you don't know anything about inflation.
@swhitmore: Tell me you've been brainwashed by keynesian economics without telling me you've been brainwashed. People think that we live in this black box where the fed/reserve bank of australia can print as much money as they like without dire consequences. You only need look at Turkey, Lebanon, Zimbabwe etc.
More money printed/introduced into the system = everything costs more. Supply and demand.
@swhitmore: When all else fails and you have no logical points to make, tell them to go back to school xD
@Dubious speculation: You forgot about supply and velocity of money
Money supply is 1/3 of the equation. Why did we have huge money supply growth between 2008 and 2020 with no inflation? According to you we should be Zimbabwe by now
That enough economics for you? Or is it too complicated?
@dtc: No inflation? Please look at the data. We're getting into the weeds of it but let's break this down and look at the facts (starts typing furiously):
There's a clear and obvious difference between the government issued CPI inflation rate versus the rate of monetary expansion (money printing). A government can pick and choose the commodities that are included in the basket of goods. This simply means the CPI is not representative of the actual rate of monetary expansion y-o-y.
If the CPI has averaged 3-4%, do you really think that the rate of monetary printing is the same? The best way of determing the actual rate of monetary inflation is by looking at the expansion of the M2 money supply. The value in reality on average since the 70s has been 7% in America and higher still in Australia. Since covid that value almost tripled through 2020 and 2021, but no one wants to hear that our actual inflation rate is 20%… (You can check the numbers here, monetary printing has eased since March 2022) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL
All this is to say that inflation and CPI is simply about narrative control. It allows governments to make the numbers seem less worse than they are in reality.
@Dubious speculation: There was no inflation between 2008 and 2020. Was that too hard to understand - sorry if you were misled. We almost had deflation at times despite having huge money supply growth
Then along comes a pandemic that restricts supply and reduces the velocity of money ….oh, inflation. Yet people run around and say 'the money supply, the money supply'. Ignoring the massive changes to the other parts of the equation because it doesnt fit into their narrative
Not really sure why you claim the Austrian school demolishes everything. Yes it claims to, but the last 80 odd years of empirical studies show that the claims are not supported by evidence. Its much like claiming 'the Pope demolishes evolutionary science by saying it never happened'. Sure, if you believe the Pope, then go for it. If you believe in studies and actual evidence, not such a strong argument.
@dtc: The money supply doubled from 2008-2020, that's 100% inflation, is that too hard to understand? Sorry if you were misled ;) Again, all a matter of definitions. You seem to think CPI = inflation. It's not nearly that simple. Did housing inflate between 2008-2020? Your defense for the absence of inflation citing CPI conveniently fits into your own narrative.
@dtc: The only reason I mentioned Zimbabwe is to illustrate the effects of hyper-inflation on an economy. Monetary inflation is a net negative on its citizens and on the economy whether it's 2%, 20% or 200%. That may baffle most people, especially those who have degrees in economics, because we're told that we need a small amount of inflation to stimulate the economy and promote consumption and innovation. I have a degree in economics and the truth of the matter is, is that the education system is there simply to espouse whatever narrative is in support of the economic policies currently in place.
In the context of the Western world and the policies that they subscribe to, means that Keynesian economics is the prevailing school of thought that's supported and made known throughout relevant degrees within the traditional University structure. Look up the Austrian School of Economics to see how easily and fundamentally a more sound school of thought demolishes all the logical fallacies and euphamisms that are used today in economics.
Does anybody have any experience with running the Alpha with a Nikon f mount adaptor on this? Do U still get auto focus working ECT?
I use a neewer f mount adapter for the a7iii and its not trouble free - sometimes it has issues when you turn on the camera and it has to think for a bit before it takes a photo (not great for impromptu capture). Once it plays nice it works. One thing it doesn't seem to do is autofocus for video but haven't really played with this much
AF on sony camera with adapted Nikon AFS lenses are subpar.
No real solutions
Looks perfect except for the small EVF.
$1000 more will get you the A7 IV which IMHO is a much better camera!
https://www.georges.com.au/products/sony-alpha-a7-iv-mirrorl…
Yes, that's generally true. Buying the more expensive one is normally a better model…
Personally I'm looking for something compact and cheaper for taking hobby photos on the go. a7 IV is geared more towards professionals.
The autofocus and low light performance on the A7C has traditionally been better for video, so may want to check that out.
Do you mean better than the A7III or the A7IV? I am aware that the A7C had better AF than the A7III but as far as I know the A7IV is another step forward from the A7C.
Between the a7c and a7 iii.
The a7c was the goto for video and it looked like Sony were going to keep the line that way for product differentiation but Sony is one of those companies that doesn’t strongly believe in that, i suppose.
The colour rendition in lower light does seem to throw it in the a7 iv's favour for video.
@bjt: I forgot to add, the a7c ii is rumoured to come out this year, allegedly even better for videos.
https://www.diyphotography.net/sony-a7c-ii-announcement-rumo…
yeha like 2k to 3k isn't a big jump at all -.-
I'd rather buy this camera and spend an extra 1k on a lens.
Still kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on the body + lens for $2k deal from JB a while ago.
Had it in my cart, hesitated, sold out - the three chapters of a classic OzBargain tragedy.
Oh wow, that would have been an awesome deal. Was it the 24-60mm kit lens?
It was a once off, Sony Alpha A7C Full Frame Mirrorless Camera with 28-60mm Lens Kit $2099 ($1899 after cashback)
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/623123
That being said, A7C II might be on the way this year so maybe we will see better A7C discounts.
Wow, that was a good deal
That was a great deal. I think it was 2300 for a7c + 28-60 kit lens.
When I found out it was OOS
Sub $2000 deals came up quite often in the last couple of months, so I would recommend wait to buy/price match @Sony.
Not with a lens included though!
I replied comment in the wrong place, it was meant for
OP’s deal 😃
woah i completely missed that deal. Incredible! I would have hesitated too…. still have my a6500 with a bucket load of lenses…
Same boat.
a7cII is coming….
is this better than z5 and z6?
amazon has z6 around the same price with extras.
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/aw/d/B08LCPPVPS/ref=ox_sc_saved…
Depends on what features are important to you. Z6 is overall better according to this https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Alpha-A7c-vs-Nikon-Z…
Overall package, the Z5 is a better deal.
Cameras are very similar.
I would get the Z5 if I have no lenses to use on the A7c
The A7C was disappointing on release and is still disappointing. Also, the rumour mill is abuzz with leaked specs of the successor, which usually means it's close.
Really? From everything I've read/watched it's had raving reviews
It has the old processor in it, the Bionz X (as opposed to the Bionz XR in all the newer releases). This limits the camera in so many ways (mostly in the intelligent auto focus category. It doesn't get access to any of the cool new "AI driven" stuff). It also has terrible sensor read out speed, so it is only capable of EIGHT BIT VIDEO (at 4k30p), which is actually just a joke in 2023. Sony is having a laugh still selling this for 2k. One of the other commenters is correct in that the A7IV is a substantially smarter buy.
Umm it was designed as a compact full frame camera, to be sold along side, not replacing the work horse a7 iii and later. It is also a 2020 camera selling for $1000 less than the a7 iv that came out in 2022 after all.
@ASR-Briggs: I did not say 2.1k is a must buy bargain. My previous posts last year were under 2k. But you are comparing it with a $3k camera???
@Buy2Much: Yes. Which is 2 years newer and has SUBSTANTIALLY better tech in it. This purchase just doesn't make any sense. If you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE the A7C, buy it second hand. This far into the life cycle there's sure to be options out there. This is just sony offloading old chips and sensors.
@ASR-Briggs: Using the same argument, why not pay another 50% more to get the newer a7r V which “…has better general image quality, more features, more compact body and offers more value for the money.” 😉
@Buy2Much: Because in absolute terms, the price difference between this and an A7IV is $870. The price difference between this an an A7R V is AT BEST $3000 and nominally $3900. I know that you understand this, you're just being obtuse.
In addition, your argument doesn't make sense, because in terms of feature set, the A7IV is way closer to an A7RV than an A7C is to an A7IV.
Any thoughts on this with the lens kit?
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/sony-alpha-7c-mirrorless-cam…
Yeah, not a bad deal. A great lens for a kit.
decent deal - thanks for sharing op.
Wanted to get it as an upgrade from the a6000 but decided against it since its heavier haha