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Crucial MX500 4TB 2.5" SSD $379 + Delivery ($5 to Most Areas/ $0 VIC/SYD C&C/ in-Store) + Surcharge @ Centre Com

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Crucial MX500 4TB 2.5" SSD $379 + Delivery ($5 to Most Areas/ $0 VIC/SYD C&C/ in-Store) + Surcharge @ Centre Com
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Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 09:08 centrecom.com.au (142 clicks)
Last edited 30/01/2023 - 10:36 by 1 other user

previous Centre Com deal was $389, can also be ordered on Amazon for $383.89 with free delivery for prime for any who want to avoid Centre Com - most stores have since dropped to around $399 https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/716870
Thanks to @scrimshaw for posting the previous deal with great details.

Looks like a good buy for those who bought the recent NZXT H1 deal and want a mass storage drive.

Specs:
Interface - SATA (6Gb/s)
Sequential Read - 560 MB/s
Sequential Write - 510 MB/s
SSD Endurance (TBW) - 1000TB
5 Year warranty

Centrecom has following surcharges: 1.2% Card & PayPal, 2% AmEx.

Crucial's MX500 4TB model comes in a 2.5-inch form-factor and continues to rely on Micron's 3D TLC NAND memory, reports HardwareLuxx. Just like lower-capacity SKUs, the 4TB SSD is rated for up to 560 MB/s sequential read speed, up to 510 MB/s sequential write speed as well as up to 90,000 random read/write IOPS. It is unclear whether the Crucial MX500 4TB drive still relies on Silicon Motion's SM2258 controller, but it is quite likely since switching a controller in a family that is four years old does not make a lot of sense (unless it saves quite a lot of money).

As for endurance, the SSD comes with a five-year warranty and is rated for 1,000 terabytes to be written (TBW), which translates to around 0.13 drive writes per day (DWPD), or around 520GB per day. While 0.13 DWPD is rather low, it should be noted that SATA SSDs these days are not really used for write-intensive workloads in desktop environments. Still, those who need to (re)write a lot of data often should probably think twice before getting this 4TB SSD. Souce: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/crucial-adds-4tb-sku-to-mx…

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  • seb on 30/01/2023 - 09:13
    +2

    Please complete the link as it got chopped off:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/crucial-adds-4tb-sku-to-mx…

  • Skramit on 30/01/2023 - 09:14

    Solid SSD deal.

    • freewhere on 30/01/2023 - 13:43
      +1

      Underrated comment.

      • Skramit on 30/01/2023 - 15:47
        +1

        Thank you for noticing

  • netsurfer on 30/01/2023 - 09:40
    +15

    There are a few variants of the 4TB. There is no easy way to tell whether the MX500 4TB you get is TLC or QLC so if you really want to tell, you will need to run a sustained write test (which is not straightforward for most people). 4TB SSD does only come with 512MB DRAM cache.

    250 GB 500 GB 1 TB 2 TB 4TB
    Form Factor SATA 2.5" SATA 2.5" SATA 2.5" SATA 2.5" SATA 2.5"
    Interface AHCI AHCI AHCI AHCI AHCI
    Controller Var 1: Silicon Motion SM2258 Silicon Motion SM2258 Silicon Motion SM2258 Silicon Motion SM2258 Silicon Motion SM2258
    Var 2: Silicon Motion SM2259 Silicon Motion SM2259 Silicon Motion SM2259 Silicon Motion SM2259 Silicon Motion SM2259
    DRAM/HMB Var 1: 256MB DDR3/DDR3L 512MB DDR3/DDR3L 1GB DDR3/DDR3L 2GB DDR3/DDR3L 512MB DDR3/DDR3L
    Var 2: 512MB DDR3/DDR3L 512MB DDR3/DDR3L
    NAND Var 1: Micron TLC 64-layer B16A 256Gb Micron TLC 64-layer B16A 256Gb Micron TLC 64-layer B16A 256Gb Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb
    Var 2: Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb
    Var 3: Micron TLC 96-layer B27A 512Gb Micron TLC 96-layer B27A 512Gb Micron TLC 96-layer B27A 512Gb Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb
    Var 4: Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb
    Var 5: Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb Micron QLC 64-layer N18A 1Tb Micron QLC 64-layer N18A 1Tb
    Var 6: Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb Micron QLC 96-layer N28A 1Tb Micron QLC 96-layer N28A 1Tb
    Sequential Read (up to) [MBps] 560 560 560 560 560
    Sequential Write (up to) [MBps] 510 510 510 510 520
    Random Read (up to) [IOPs] 95000 95000 95000 95000 95000
    Random Write (up to) [IOPs] 90000 90000 90000 90000 90000
    Cryptography 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0
    Durability (TBW) [TB] 100 180 360 700 1000
    MTBF [million hours] 1.8 1.8 1.8 1.8 1.8
    Part Number CT250MX500SSD1 CT500MX500SSD1 CT1000MX500SSD1 CT2000MX500SSD1 CT4000MX500SSD1
    Warranty [years] 5 5 5 5 5
    • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 09:42
      +4

      Pretty bloody shifty of them doing that. I think a few brands have been called out for doing similar things like putting cheaper controllers in following the review cycle too. Thanks for the info, definitely more of a mass-storage drive rather than a boot drive with those specs

      • virtual81 on 30/01/2023 - 13:26
        +1

        I'm OK with it strictly providing it meets it's specifications.

        There have been however many brands that have passed off variations of their product that does not meet their original spec.

        Do we know my more about whether or not the Crucial variants are failing to meet spec?
        If so then they should be rightly judged.
        If not then they deserve a bit of slack.

        It's hard to maintain supply of some chips and is fair and justifiable for them to build a device under the hood as they see fit… providing it meets or exceeds the spec that was set.

        Conversely any manufacture caught implementing sub par components or cost cutting into a device should be condemned.

        Echoes of the silicone shortage linger and i think will remain for some time.
        Having differing components in a model without affecting the spec or any promises of certain hardware is something we should be getting used to.

    • reactor-au on 30/01/2023 - 10:03
      +5

      Makes me feel a bit better about paying almost $600 for 870EVO 4TB in 2021.

      • DmytroP on 30/01/2023 - 11:58

        870EVO is certainly a better choice.

    • XZT on 30/01/2023 - 22:11

      Original source of the MX500 QLC claim:
      https://theoverclockingpage.com/2022/07/27/review-crucial-mx…
      And comments from the author:
      https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rumour-that-mx500…

      Oh that's my sheet haha, i did it when i reviewed my Crucial MX500 1TB when i bought it from Aliexpress.

      i Wrote the review, yes there are QLC Variants, although all i could find were from reports from buyers from Aliexpress, i had encounters many MX500 from my country's stores and all had TLC dies, but some variants coming from Aliexpress had QLC variants indeed, a friend of mine had one with N48R dies

      I think we should really include this context whenever that QLC claim is made, at least until we have more sources to check against.

      Since many people are unlikely to see this comment on this deal by now, could I ask @netsurfer and others to please include the source (and the author's clarifications) if this ever gets raised again in future? Especially if the spec table is being copied anyway.

      Hoping more people are encouraged to check if they are able (e.g. more challenging, by looking at markings on the chips) and maybe work out a way to identify different component combinations externally. That applies for this and other SSDs - keep sharing technical knowledge so more people are aware and can become familiar with the concepts.

      • netsurfer on 30/01/2023 - 22:53

        My general view on SSDs is that you should not rely on the reviews. If people want to know whether they received TLC or QLC, the safest way is to test it themselves. I mentioned before the table:

        if you really want to tell, you will need to run a sustained write test

        Below is a screenshot of someone who thinks he "might" have received the QLC version:

        MX500 4TB Sustained Write Test Example - 229MB/s Note: That is NOT official nor objective testing and I was NOT the person who did that test.

        I also mentioned the drop in DRAM size. That has been confirmed. Anyone who has purchased one of these recently willing to do a sustained write test would help. However, as I said, once you have this SSD, just do a sustained write test. I do not want to give people false hope or vouch for local retailer stock. Furthermore, if given a choice, which particular version of TLC would be the preferred one? They don't behave the same.

        Asking people to open up the SSD and check the chips is unrealistic. We tried to have some MX500 owners run some SMI utilities last time, but we had no luck finding the right utility to run (for SMI chipset, SATA, there are so many different utilities, unlike the NVMe one).

  • CYMA on 30/01/2023 - 09:45
    +2

    Could be slightly cheaper with delivery from Amazon US https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/751540

    Previous centrecom deal was $389 https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/745568

    • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 10:22

      will correct, cheers

      • O O on 30/01/2023 - 10:33
        -3

        You're still trying to misleading buyers,

        Most recent deal was $449, previous Centre Com deal was $389

        Most recent deal on OzB is $383.89, probably you need to specify which store offering $449 recently. 😁

        • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 10:35
          +2

          Didn't to mislead anyone, it was the first thing that I saw when I searched at the time being the Umart post linked in description, it was operator error.
          Saying I'm TRYING implies it was deliberate, which is untrue. I'd appreciate if you didn't make accusations about intent

          On a different note, thanks for flagging the mistake I made again. Is the correction suitable?

  • TripleJJJ on 30/01/2023 - 10:08
    +2

    Please stay away from this drama company

    • SickDmith on 30/01/2023 - 12:51
      +1

      Any recommendation on other "less drama" 4Tb SATA drives?

      • TripleJJJ on 30/01/2023 - 13:00

        Well, it is not about the drive. It about the company…
        If you do not like any drama in the drive, please do not put any iso in it…

  • cc23 on 30/01/2023 - 10:13
    +5

    Wouldn't deal with CentreCom, last two orders cancelled. I think they do low prices to generate traffic, then just cancel em all.

    • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 10:21

      I've never had that issue in 15 years buying goods from them, sorry to hear it's happened to you

      • ShrewdBargin on 30/01/2023 - 10:41
        +5

        It’s not an isolated issue. Any OzBargain regular has seen the amount of controversy they have have caused. It’s almost at the point where they should be banned lol

        • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 10:43
          +2

          I just saw the thread about the Kingston RAM, hadn't heard about previously. I haven't needed to upgrade since intel 7th gen until now so hadn't been across it.

          Sounds like they're pretty slimy honestly, it's a shame as I build my first computer with parts from their Elsternwick store back in the day.

          • netsurfer on 30/01/2023 - 10:53

            @Anthropomorphised: The following deal brings back some memory from people. However, I do wonder why people still think Centre Com would honour it.

            [Pre Order] Western Digital Blue 6TB 3.5" SATA Hard Drive 6GB/S 5400rpm $29 + $5 Delivery ($0 C&C) + Surcharge @ Centre Com

            If you are an OZB regular, surely you would know by now Centre Com does not honour pricing error. And, just an FYI, based on OZBers' comments, even if the online store failed to catch the mistake, if you elected to pick up the item in store, some store staff could detect this issue and still refuses to sell the item at the wrong price.

            • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 11:00

              @netsurfer: I saw that one and thought it sounded far too good to be true. Sounds like they've really burnt their customer base.

              Looks like I'll be spending my money elsewhere in future, I'd thought they were a better alternative to MSY/Umart. Is there another store that you'd recommend for everyday?

              • netsurfer on 30/01/2023 - 11:09
                +3

                @Anthropomorphised: Honestly, most OZBers don't go to one particular store anymore. It's mostly about prices now. Our retail stores are having a tough time. They need to compete with online stores, PC market isn't doing well. Personally, I don't go to one particular store.

                It's easy for most people to blacklist CentreCom because most people don't really shop there anyway.

                • Anthropomorphised on 30/01/2023 - 11:13

                  @netsurfer: Fair call, thanks for your perspective

                  • ShrewdBargin on 30/01/2023 - 11:36
                    +3

                    @Anthropomorphised: The SATA drive example is a bit egregious, I meant for other deals where they put an item on sale and as soon as they see people buying price jack and cancel the already paid orders

                    • netsurfer on 30/01/2023 - 12:30
                      +1

                      @ShrewdBargin: Price jack is what you felt and while I understand why you would feel that way, you do have to bear in mind:

                      • CentreCom did not post that particular deal.
                      • It did felt like a potential pricing error. Yes, there was another deal from another retailer (or a slightly slower set of RAM modules), it still wasn't exactly the same set.

                      CentreCom isn't a place you generally go to for bargain deals. Other than special clearance items with only 1 or 2 in stock, CentreCom is normally a place I go if I want to buy an item where pretty much every store has the same price OR I know CentreCom would price match (because the price difference isn't that big so they would match).

                      CentreCom is quite strange. I asked for them to price match a Kingston SSD. The store refused. But, 3 days later, they dropped the price of that to the price I was asking for. I didn't buy that SSD coz. within that 3 days, I found there is TLC/QLC lottery. They price matched a NUC (and that price difference is higher).

  • hollykryten on 31/01/2023 - 08:01
    +1

    I don't think that this one is a pricing error. It's also going for $379 at CPL. https://cplonline.com.au/storage/ssd/crucial-ct4000mx500ssd1… so unless they've also got a pricing error at exactly the same price.

    Even PLE and Scorptec sells it for $399 which is not too far off this price.

    • Anthropomorphised on 31/01/2023 - 11:25

      Correct, this is a plausible price. CPL could be a good alternative for those burnt by Centre Com

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