Cheapest ever price for this popular drive, will taste great in a sandwich with cheese
CamelCamelCamel.
4TB is too large for an ATX case, consider 2TB instead, preferably NVME drive.
what sauces would you recommend for a mx500 sandwich op? first time trying, bit out of my usual price range for lunch..
Arctic thermal paste is a nice sauce! Adds a cool minty flavour
I find the liquid stuff is better than the spreadable. Never oily and never dry.
Any sauce is fine just not Wikipedia
There’s quite a few reports that NAND will drop a lot this year. If you don’t need it in the next month consider waiting maybe
The old hodl
hodl never gets old. Dont need it, dont buy it.
Don't buy first,
don't think later.
It’s complicated.
There’s less consumer demand anticipated this year, so the news yesterday was that Samsung are expected to cut production. The lower demand is also seeing some producers attempt to offload inventory, especially before newer tech emerges later this quarter.
The industry is a in a state of flux and uncertainty with tensions between China and Taiwan prompting a move to manufacturing within India and USA.
Also, moore’s law.
Just what are the specs of this drive ? dram etc ….
There are multiple variants of MX500 4TB. The 4TB comes with only 512MB DRAM (rather than 4GB), but if you need a SSD with 4GB DRAM, I reckon you would opt for a NVMe SSD. Also, notice the TBW for 4TB isn't exactly double of the 2TB version (though that's not uncommon for 4TB SSDs). The read/write speed in the table below is SLC cache speed, not the NAND speed.
There are not enough reports to provide sustained write speed between TLC and QLC variants. One user indicated his 4TB's sustained write is around 220MB/s (he thinks he has the QLC version, but has no proof). SM2259 officially supports QLC so getting a SM2259 variant may not necessary be better. This utility may report the NAND type of the SSD:
SMI Flash ID utility (for SATA)
Tl;dr: NAND could be either TLC or QLC for 4TB.
| 250 GB | 500 GB | 1 TB | 2 TB | 4TB | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Form Factor | SATA 2.5" | SATA 2.5" | SATA 2.5" | SATA 2.5" | SATA 2.5" | |
| Interface | AHCI | AHCI | AHCI | AHCI | AHCI | |
| Controller | Var 1: | Silicon Motion SM2258 | Silicon Motion SM2258 | Silicon Motion SM2258 | Silicon Motion SM2258 | Silicon Motion SM2258 |
| Var 2: | Silicon Motion SM2259 | Silicon Motion SM2259 | Silicon Motion SM2259 | Silicon Motion SM2259 | Silicon Motion SM2259 | |
| DRAM/HMB | Var 1: | 256MB DDR3/DDR3L | 512MB DDR3/DDR3L | 1GB DDR3/DDR3L | 2GB DDR3/DDR3L | 512MB DDR3/DDR3L |
| Var 2: | 512MB DDR3/DDR3L | 512MB DDR3/DDR3L | ||||
| NAND | Var 1: | Micron TLC 64-layer B16A 256Gb | Micron TLC 64-layer B16A 256Gb | Micron TLC 64-layer B16A 256Gb | Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb | Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb |
| Var 2: | Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb | Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb | Micron TLC 64-layer B17A 512Gb | Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb | Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb | |
| Var 3: | Micron TLC 96-layer B27A 512Gb | Micron TLC 96-layer B27A 512Gb | Micron TLC 96-layer B27A 512Gb | Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb | Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb | |
| Var 4: | Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb | Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb | Micron TLC 96-layer B27B 512Gb | Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb | Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb | |
| Var 5: | Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb | Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb | Micron TLC 128-layer B37R 512Gb | Micron QLC 64-layer N18A 1Tb | Micron QLC 64-layer N18A 1Tb | |
| Var 6: | Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb | Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb | Micron TLC 176-layer B47R 512Gb | Micron QLC 96-layer N28A 1Tb | Micron QLC 96-layer N28A 1Tb | |
| Sequential Read (up to) | [MBps] | 560 | 560 | 560 | 560 | 560 |
| Sequential Write (up to) | [MBps] | 510 | 510 | 510 | 510 | 520 |
| Random Read (up to) | [IOPs] | 95000 | 95000 | 95000 | 95000 | 95000 |
| Random Write (up to) | [IOPs] | 90000 | 90000 | 90000 | 90000 | 90000 |
| Cryptography | 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 | 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 | 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 | 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 | 256bit AES, TCG Opal 2.0 | |
| Durability (TBW) | [TB] | 100 | 180 | 360 | 700 | 1000 |
| MTBF | [million hours] | 1.8 | 1.8 | 1.8 | 1.8 | 1.8 |
| Part Number | CT250MX500SSD1 | CT500MX500SSD1 | CT1000MX500SSD1 | CT2000MX500SSD1 | CT4000MX500SSD1 | |
| Warranty | [years] | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
wow thanks dont think il be gambling on that one but that being said my use case may have been for a PS4 …
For those with a MX500 2TB or 4TB, if the NAND on them could be confirmed, that would be helpful. Either using the software tool or phsically looking at markings on the chips (if you are up for opening the case).
Still looking for confirmation of the QLC MX500 claim, besides the original (sole?) source: https://theoverclockingpage.com/2022/07/27/review-crucial-mx…
As plausible as it is, this QLC claim probably needs more verification before being reduced to a headline statement of fact.
My previous comments.
Sorry, that utility I posted above doesn't work. Still trying to find one that works.
@netsurfer: Thanks for your efforts sharing info on SSDs.
It's a bit of a pity those sorts of detailed inspection utilities aren't more common. Feels like something that would be useful in a tool like CrystalDiskInfo (I don't think it can show that level of NAND or controller detail yet).
@XZT: Based on the link you posted, that MX500 1TB review with the source table showing those variants, combined with what I read from a user report on a forum indicating the sustained write is 220MB/s, it is difficult to state QLC is definitely in play. Reason is that while that 220 figure is much lower than 1TB's result, Crucial's QLC NAND isn't that good I thought. However, if that's TLC, it seems too low. However, if that's due to 4TB no longer uses a smallish SLC cache, but a much larger dynamic SLC cache, and the 4TB is in SLC recovery state, 220MB/s is kind of okay (still subpar for TLC).
We do know 220MB/s is certainly doable for Intel's QLC NAND based SSDs (2TB or higher) (but Intel's SSD business has been bought by Hynix). Yes, it is annoying reviewers reviewed earlier versions.
It turns out Gabriel Ferraz (the author of that source article) had commented here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rumour-that-mx500…
Oh that's my sheet haha, i did it when i reviewed my Crucial MX500 1TB when i bought it from Aliexpress.
i Wrote the review, yes there are QLC Variants, although all i could find were from reports from buyers from Aliexpress, i had encounters many MX500 from my country's stores and all had TLC dies, but some variants coming from Aliexpress had QLC variants indeed, a friend of mine had one with N48R dies
So far, only found on different MX500 variants from AliExpress?
Good to see my table in the wild again! It didn't get many upvotes, so I wasn't sure if many people found the translation useful (which honestly was just the first column, and you could probably figure out what it said, between the similarities in language and what the values were)
I copied it twice now. Last time it didn't get many votes either. I think with cheaper price, more people look at the deal.
The SSD utility doesn't work (it is for older chipset). So, to determine whether it is TLC or QLC, you will need to do a sustained write test. If you have one of the apps that do that (most of them are paid apps), then you can run it. Otherwise, you need to fill the SSD with large files up to 60%. In the past, 15 minutes will do, but if SN570 2TB is any indication, 15 minutes won't be enough.
The preferred sustained write for MX500 is 400MB/s. There has been reports that users got 220MB/s for 4TB.
Purchased one last week from Umart for $399, so far it's been fine for my use of storing a photo library. I'd still likely choose the buying/pickup locally from a B&M at that price difference vs Amazon US.
Broke my tooth on this drive. Reported.
Gotta sear it for about 20 seconds either side
Rehashing old thread but I received a 250gb SSD when I ordered this?! Did anyone else have the same experience??
Think this is pretty expensive considering what you can get 2tb for 153
Nice price, but I wonder if it can fit in my ATX case! 😉